Two ridiculously talented mic-men. Difficult to pick a winner in all honesty. Both had bars and both talk nonsense. Won't be a clash like this in Grime again. Personally, I rate Dot over P, but I fully rate both artists. Came with the goods during this epic clash.
I like both p money and dot rotten but dot organised grime and steak beak is one of the hardest war dub in grime but ghetts black winter send is the hardest
@R. W I agree hes good but hes good because P taught him.. P made him good, but when it come down to it P money is a lyrical genius and In my mind, because let's be honest that's all this is , is opinion, but in my mind P money is 1 of the sickest lyracists out there and dot gave it a good go, he went hard and he dropped some bangers but as a whole, P money rinsed him and hung him out to dry
@@k2thab_SxP p didnt teach him. u ain't from our era. dot was about before p money. there first session on radio with ghetto u can see how dot was ahead of p then. don't get me wrong p is dope but he didnt teach him my guy
@@k2thab_SxP that is what P money said though. There’s no proof that P money taught him. Even if he did you can tell dot just has something about him that sets him apart
If we are talking flows and bars Dot won but if were talking facts and just brutality P won, Steak Bake was the best dub but Dot peaked there and the last 2 were meh whilst P Money dubs were all brutal and straight to the point, Dot better rapper but P is better at dissing
ellie johnson nah steakbake was cold so was both real talks. P is hard. But dot beat him. Take out the "hes lying" we dont know who has more facts. But lyrically dot was better.
Still banging the whole vid so many bars forget who wins just bare punchlines bars and flows only the vets like ghetts wiley duggz have had battles like this.
Dot won marginally in terms of quality of dubs But in life P is in charge and is sticking to facts. Dot changes his stories all the time and doesn't keep it 💯
respect Firell Parker,...true say nobody knows but P and Dot,..and close spa's and fam,...its sad that these two both have beef cos they both spit some siccc bars,...i like them both,..but just think Dot is da man,...
Reasoning to oblivion i spoke to someone on youtube who saud they were in nas circle etc. They were neutral or more leaning towards dot. And they were sayong dots facts were current ps facts were old and facts jendor said. Which implied what dot said had some truths.which if thats the case he definately won
I rate them both but this ruined pmoney for me the fact he made man like peri trying to take the piss saying he couldn't afford food and ate leftover chicken then dot bodies that whole song in one sentence in a 7minute song saying hes vegan ahahha
He's taking the piss out of him for having a dead career even though he tried being pop which usually has an audience that is easier to please, which is why he is poor, he's talking about the actions which are the reason for him being poor. big difference.
Some of the comments I'm reading are mad. It's beef. As soon as someone lies, they lose. Comments prove how people just like to believe whatever they want to hear.
ProfessorSuccesor how do we know whos telling the truth both people have been called liars so what do they both lose didnt think so. Thats why you judge it on lyrics mainly
So many dot fans saying he won and so many p fans saying he won, it was pure flames from both. Ama P fan and him proving evidence just makes his claims even harder. Mental both of em 🔥🔥
LMAO I must say I ain't no p money fan every since he try come for ghetts but do the facts and wat ever else lyrically and with the beats P fkin bodied dot like foreal lmao P distroyed it fam
I dont care who man . just be happy we got some cool beef battles in 2k17+ todays rap scene missing quallity this beef in todays grime scene was lit as F.
P Money won over the beats and performance IMO. I'm sorry but I get bored every time I hear to Dot Rotten. But still I'll repeat P Money songs always. P Money's Real Talk still my best favorite of all this Clash. It became an addiction.
Youse are all obviously not listening properly if you think dot won this dot doesn't make sense he goes on about 2 thingsall the time and doesn't respond to wot p says or deny anything just goes on about the same thing p money all the way n to top it he not real #masterwriter
Mentions his gay brother p gettig moved too his bro being gay woman beating his weight. But yes same thing. P spoke about what dot being poor even though hes made ps from producing and around 010 was one of the biggest grime artists arojnd his clash with wiley is what messed him up. Him being rushed and old stuff so
God damn how am.i only hearing this beef now. You can disagree with me but Dot got murdered. When i heard P was involved i just knew its a body i remember P v Ghetts in like 2010 its mad to think Dot and P went at it but it was long time coming. Both sick spitters but my last verdict P won this war. BUT Dot Rottens one Bar tho You remind me of Bellamy from.One Piece you wont believe in my dream till you see me decend from space.
I'm frustrated on behalf of P in this beef fr like how am I flaming this guy with facts and he keeps touching mic and just lying but it sounds fucking sick? Long day
Both artists are smashing it... Does anyone else get the impression this is a massive publicity stunt and they are actually both good mates? Either way 🔥
Bogeham13 dot got ended where is he now? Dot came to a grime beef with lies upon lies plus the worst thing he came out with rap in a grime beef that's a instant L you're stupid and not a proper grime fan if you think that 😂😂 dot took a BIG FAT L get over it if he did win this beef how come a couple weeks later he released a new song and it never even got 70k views but his dub were getting over 200k because it was beef with p money dots name is dead it will always be dead he is not respected by any grime mc the only people that like him are his old school fans dot took an L just deal with it
0:53 - "Got this bitch lying..." 1:09 - "Came studio tried to rush me, then I G-checked..." Except P punched you up Dot, and you both chat about it several times over the rest of the beef. So... Dot ends himself after 1m10s? His bars are hard, yeah, but it's beef, not who can spit sicker.
Well they already did and told everyone how that went. But I meant more, it's personal beef which Dot has decided to air out in public, but people going on like it's a soundclash and some lyrical battle. If Dot is just saying everything under the sun and P is telling him "you're lying" x1000 then naturally he's gonna sound repetitive.
I don't know shit about what the documents p are flashing are supposed to look like in england, but the shit seems suspect as fuck. Spelling errors and shit.
That thing is some transcript that has been copied down, definitely not a real court legal document or whatever. But... that's not got anything to do with my comment. Did you mean to reply to this?
nah P lost, everything P said Dot spoke up and cleared up. Then P came with fake court papers and took another L when that got exposed. Honestly P is a sick rapper but he didn't win this.
B Nada What do you mean everything Dot was saying are accusations no one in their right mind will admit to everything P came with are things that happened almost a decade ago. Dot already mentioned about being broke in his first album "This is the Beginning " and he talks about it. Dot already mentioned the situation about Ms Bratt and lady shivs years ago and even the samurai situation in tracks years ago. Only just come grime fans won't know that because Dot wasn't even relevant RAP WISE and was focused on producing since 2014. And let's not forget how P was saying why are you repeating yourself THEN CONTRADICTS HIMSELF by repeating shit that's already on the internet from years ago. P lost the clash
You know what I may be biased cause I have never rated P, i think he’s wack as an artist. I gave him the win against Ghetts even though Imo Ghetts is the goat. But fuck me, i think Dot destroyed him. Steak Bake is one of the hardest diss tracks I’ve ever heard. Spirit bomb is a fucking tune. Just my opinion
So ghetts won over p money years ago right but now there both dope spotters ghetts done way more origination while p was kind of average but money's new album has got a few bangers plus he toured Melbourne Australia first prob coz ghetts has a real record
All this dissing between them let the door open for Birmingham boys to come through which I think are better these days away but zeph Ellis all the way
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Let's be honest, half the youts watching this hadn't even heard of dot before this beef
fo real man
tbh the only youts who wouldnt kno dot are stormzy fanboys doubt they knew about p either
nah i listened to dot beforre the beef but p moneys won
maybe dot has more skill than p
but dot left grime for trap
Let's be honest you lot are youts
richard your neck fat gives your head the same shape as the yellow capsule inside a kinder egg
Stake bake was prob the hardest diss but “did you notice” was the best track. I bang that out lol
If CARLING did grime beefs...
Two ridiculously talented mic-men. Difficult to pick a winner in all honesty. Both had bars and both talk nonsense. Won't be a clash like this in Grime again. Personally, I rate Dot over P, but I fully rate both artists. Came with the goods during this epic clash.
how is it difficult, dot obviously lying
I give it to P purely because of all the lies dot been telling that were actually proven, but I agree both had great disses
I think dot takes it..both got deep..mad bars tho
I like both p money and dot rotten but dot organised grime and steak beak is one of the hardest war dub in grime but ghetts black winter send is the hardest
Dot's Real Talk is one of the best diss tracks ever
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Mr. Jabber 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
his real talk and spirit bomb are the best diss tracks hands down
ummmmm destruction of the eiffel tower by ghetts is actually & the warning by p money easily
Rhys thompson lol no.
People saying that dot won this clearly didnt even listen😂🤣 P money VIOLATED him😂 RIP dot rotton😂
@R. W I agree hes good but hes good because P taught him.. P made him good, but when it come down to it P money is a lyrical genius and In my mind, because let's be honest that's all this is , is opinion, but in my mind P money is 1 of the sickest lyracists out there and dot gave it a good go, he went hard and he dropped some bangers but as a whole, P money rinsed him and hung him out to dry
P Money is a G!!! Still going in hard, wheres Dot now?
@@k2thab_SxP p didnt teach him. u ain't from our era. dot was about before p money. there first session on radio with ghetto u can see how dot was ahead of p then. don't get me wrong p is dope but he didnt teach him my guy
@@k2thab_SxP that is what P money said though. There’s no proof that P money taught him. Even if he did you can tell dot just has something about him that sets him apart
"After the time skip ive been evolving tenfold, poison my world you get approached by zeno" hard Dragon ball super reference
both killed it man! I think Steak Bake is the hardest track! The real winner is the fans and grimes legacy, big up both mc's!
If we are talking flows and bars Dot won but if were talking facts and just brutality P won, Steak Bake was the best dub but Dot peaked there and the last 2 were meh whilst P Money dubs were all brutal and straight to the point, Dot better rapper but P is better at dissing
The real winner is fans of grime
Real talk the beef gets everyone gassed. I wish grime mcs beefed more.
I’m on Ps side but dot bodied him with steakbake
Chris Palmer steak bake was just dot legit shouting down a mic 😂😂
Steak bake is a proper banger.imo it's best track of the entire clash.
Dan Harris I got bars was the best
ellie johnson nah steakbake was cold so was both real talks. P is hard. But dot beat him. Take out the "hes lying" we dont know who has more facts. But lyrically dot was better.
Dot completely fucked him up in every way possible
old school grime fan way before roll deep when im ere, way before romeo, way before so solid
way before ant n dec
Go on then....
Still banging the whole vid so many bars forget who wins just bare punchlines bars and flows only the vets like ghetts wiley duggz have had battles like this.
Dot won because P backed out to clash face to face Ghetts lost for backing out same applies to P
Top man for upping all of it! Liked/subbed.
Thank you
Thank u for this
I like both but holy fuck p money made me laugh so fucking much in these
Dot won marginally in terms of quality of dubs
But in life P is in charge and is sticking to facts. Dot changes his stories all the time and doesn't keep it 💯
Liars In the booth one of the greatest disses of all time
P won. too sick! best clash for so long!
p won final verdict
Dot had the hardest track of the beef but P won overall for me. To many evidence to back up what he was saying
You lot saying Dot won...send me some of what you're smoking pls thanks
no need,...if you say P won,..youre already fucked up,..:) :)
chidstar exactly bruv
RooiT93 p money has rushed him once. Most time dot has been rushed. Theyve both lied and told truths so how do we know unless youre in that circle.
respect Firell Parker,...true say nobody knows but P and Dot,..and close spa's and fam,...its sad that these two both have beef cos they both spit some siccc bars,...i like them both,..but just think Dot is da man,...
Reasoning to oblivion i spoke to someone on youtube who saud they were in nas circle etc. They were neutral or more leaning towards dot. And they were sayong dots facts were current ps facts were old and facts jendor said. Which implied what dot said had some truths.which if thats the case he definately won
Taking the piss out of someone because they have no money is weak
Math Robs yh truss I don't rate people tryna take the piss cuh they got no ps, people go through struggle
I rate them both but this ruined pmoney for me the fact he made man like peri trying to take the piss saying he couldn't afford food and ate leftover chicken then dot bodies that whole song in one sentence in a 7minute song saying hes vegan ahahha
He's taking the piss out of him for having a dead career even though he tried being pop which usually has an audience that is easier to please, which is why he is poor, he's talking about the actions which are the reason for him being poor. big difference.
You have to give the context
Half of you lot have been on grime for 2 minutes and haven't got a clue what your on about. P wins hands down
Some of the comments I'm reading are mad. It's beef. As soon as someone lies, they lose. Comments prove how people just like to believe whatever they want to hear.
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ProfessorSuccesor how do we know whos telling the truth both people have been called liars so what do they both lose didnt think so. Thats why you judge it on lyrics mainly
@@firellparker7463 one has 0 backup and the other has people agreeing with them in video AND on twitter. Pretty obvious who the liar is
@@Fuyaera they have their own boys agreeing so it means it's real? Foh
One of the best clashes I’ve ever heard real talk. Salute to both these man. 💯
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If you think p money won the beef give this comment thumbs up
This was just an excellent showcase of skill.
come back to this every now and then and Dots just gets worse with each listen
Best grime war dub 4 dub clash ever. The lyrical content is actually amazing.
not even gonna lie, I subbed to both of them lol
Too bad these two hate each other, cos this is a triumph for grime
To me the best war of all time
Shame grime clashes only come around here and there now. This was bliss lol
Who ever put this together thank you 🙏
in I Got Bars p says name a place lets see if u show up and dot hasent said shit
sooooooo
THEBRO1811 And also Did You Notice he said "turn on location next time you tweet" and did he lol shook
What is the name of the tune of dot rottens tune at 54:00 after money ep 2 tune
Daniel Airson Spirit bomb
This should be a full movie
How can people say dot won this man
This is fucking timeless man😔
I thought dot won but actually listen to what p was sayin WTF... p won that BY FAR 💯💯
Overall P Money wins this, better flow and content
P is a different animal tho.. hard, the fucking wind changed now my face is stuck greasin
21:34 sounds a bit suspect
Dazzy Grhymz 🤣🤣 I actually didn't even notice until now, dot exposing himself a bit
Hard cuz mans a fan of both and I've listen to all the track bare times and hard to choice but I do think dot won..
Dose it matt who won let's just enjoy yhd music that there giving us
So many dot fans saying he won and so many p fans saying he won, it was pure flames from both. Ama P fan and him proving evidence just makes his claims even harder. Mental both of em 🔥🔥
LMAO I must say I ain't no p money fan every since he try come for ghetts but do the facts and wat ever else lyrically and with the beats P fkin bodied dot like foreal lmao P distroyed it fam
I dont care who man . just be happy we got some cool beef battles in 2k17+ todays rap scene missing quallity this beef in todays grime scene was lit as F.
P Money won over the beats and performance IMO. I'm sorry but I get bored every time I hear to Dot Rotten. But still I'll repeat P Money songs always.
P Money's Real Talk still my best favorite of all this Clash. It became an addiction.
Ahmad Al Awadi I prefer Dot Rotten's Real Talk but they're both good
P money repeats himself too much,..Dot smashes it,..EVERYTIME
the beats? dot made some of the beats himself what are you even chatting
Stake Bake is too hype.
Catchy tunes doesn't win a clash you proper wet goon. Go listen to Drake ya divvy, Dot is smart and P money is just pure gas like National grid
Youse are all obviously not listening properly if you think dot won this dot doesn't make sense he goes on about 2 thingsall the time and doesn't respond to wot p says or deny anything just goes on about the same thing p money all the way n to top it he not real #masterwriter
he doesnt reply to P,.. cos Dot went first,...doughnut,..hahaaaa
Mentions his gay brother p gettig moved too his bro being gay woman beating his weight. But yes same thing. P spoke about what dot being poor even though hes made ps from producing and around 010 was one of the biggest grime artists arojnd his clash with wiley is what messed him up. Him being rushed and old stuff so
I’d say in terms of rebuttals he lost because he came across as a liar. But in terms of rapping ability I’d say he proved he’s better
so shocked but Dot won this in my eyes, both lied so much thou lol
Grime lord dot all day
P's best dub was 'Liars In The Booth'.
Dot's best dub was 'Steak Bake'
Both are grime greats.
Liars in the Booth had a better flow, but Did You Notice was a *dub* - Dot Rotten never replied to it 🙈
Remeber Fuuck Radio?
God damn how am.i only hearing this beef now.
You can disagree with me but Dot got murdered. When i heard P was involved i just knew its a body i remember P v Ghetts in like 2010 its mad to think Dot and P went at it but it was long time coming. Both sick spitters but my last verdict P won this war. BUT Dot Rottens one Bar tho You remind me of Bellamy from.One Piece you wont believe in my dream till you see me decend from space.
R.I.P dot rotten
Debate question for the culture: where would you place this clash within the grime scene!? 🤔
At the very top.
I'm frustrated on behalf of P in this beef fr like how am I flaming this guy with facts and he keeps touching mic and just lying but it sounds fucking sick? Long day
You missed ‘Mug’ from P Money
Dot Rotten bodied this beef tho 👌🔥
Both artists are smashing it...
Does anyone else get the impression this is a massive publicity stunt and they are actually both good mates?
Either way 🔥
Ryan Ludgate LOL you obviously don't know the history. On what planet does someone get rushed by their "good mate"?
Joe Bloggers their one was a publicity stunt. Dot and p is serious. Worse now.
@@joebloggers1504 now there beefing again
Dots last diss was hard still
dot won
Give Gyg no
Grime4Life yes
Bogeham13 dot got ended where is he now? Dot came to a grime beef with lies upon lies plus the worst thing he came out with rap in a grime beef that's a instant L you're stupid and not a proper grime fan if you think that 😂😂 dot took a BIG FAT L get over it if he did win this beef how come a couple weeks later he released a new song and it never even got 70k views but his dub were getting over 200k because it was beef with p money dots name is dead it will always be dead he is not respected by any grime mc the only people that like him are his old school fans dot took an L just deal with it
My mans quick
p money is on a different level to dot
0:53 - "Got this bitch lying..."
1:09 - "Came studio tried to rush me, then I G-checked..."
Except P punched you up Dot, and you both chat about it several times over the rest of the beef.
So... Dot ends himself after 1m10s? His bars are hard, yeah, but it's beef, not who can spit sicker.
It is music beef so yes it is about who can spit sicker. If it was beef do you think they would be sending dubs rather than linking
Well they already did and told everyone how that went.
But I meant more, it's personal beef which Dot has decided to air out in public, but people going on like it's a soundclash and some lyrical battle. If Dot is just saying everything under the sun and P is telling him "you're lying" x1000 then naturally he's gonna sound repetitive.
I don't know shit about what the documents p are flashing are supposed to look like in england, but the shit seems suspect as fuck. Spelling errors and shit.
That thing is some transcript that has been copied down, definitely not a real court legal document or whatever. But... that's not got anything to do with my comment. Did you mean to reply to this?
lol yeah its a lyrical battle so what does p punching dot got to do with anything??
P money be smashing it my .RT
P won
Dot shredded P money haha
ZashFilms91 that's bs stop lying to yourself dot chatted so many lies then he came to grime beef with rap instant L
nah P lost, everything P said Dot spoke up and cleared up. Then P came with fake court papers and took another L when that got exposed. Honestly P is a sick rapper but he didn't win this.
what is Dots final dub called?????????????
im a BIG p money faN. but if im being real. dot won
Classic Dot fan comment
dot ended him
if you allow man to talk out of his arse, then sure dot won...
TRUST ME, how does any man believe Dot guys fucking gassed
B Nada What do you mean everything Dot was saying are accusations no one in their right mind will admit to everything P came with are things that happened almost a decade ago.
Dot already mentioned about being broke in his first album "This is the Beginning " and he talks about it. Dot already mentioned the situation about Ms Bratt and lady shivs years ago and even the samurai situation in tracks years ago. Only just come grime fans won't know that because Dot wasn't even relevant RAP WISE and was focused on producing since 2014. And let's not forget how P was saying why are you repeating yourself THEN CONTRADICTS HIMSELF by repeating shit that's already on the internet from years ago. P lost the clash
P money killed this beef! Dot rotten is ok but ps delivery beats and flow is just better!
Dot won
Can't pick a winner both went hard on diff ones. But don't condone breaking a girls jaw and nose lol. Bad guy
Brilliant
why didnt you do pmoney for dot tracks?
This gonna pump for a work out
Is there every single diss in this video?
fake bullet proof vest as a prop now?
P you contradict yourself,..one minute the almighty Dot is copying your bars then he's using windows programmes,..???? which one is it,..
that's not a contradiction, lol can do both
Track at 34:15 was hard but the track after p money went harder damnnn
P money
p money's real talk / the end
Dot was best lyrically but his sends didn't feel honest, unlike P's.
P Won frfr
Who’s the radio dj the whole scene has slept with lol?
Sian Anderson
both good but prefer dot
honestly don't know how any1 thinks p lost this bruh
You know what I may be biased cause I have never rated P, i think he’s wack as an artist.
I gave him the win against Ghetts even though Imo Ghetts is the goat.
But fuck me, i think Dot destroyed him. Steak Bake is one of the hardest diss tracks I’ve ever heard. Spirit bomb is a fucking tune.
Just my opinion
getting a bit bored of these funeral beats
So ghetts won over p money years ago right but now there both dope spotters ghetts done way more origination while p was kind of average but money's new album has got a few bangers plus he toured Melbourne Australia first prob coz ghetts has a real record
Personally I just feel that dot rotterns real talk was too fucking much lyrically killed it bars far too much
All this dissing between them let the door open for Birmingham boys to come through which I think are better these days away but zeph Ellis all the way
54:00 u can tell this guy is moist rapping like some preacher. Guy 100% aint hard
Not a dot fan but he did well dot won i say
Keith Roberts i agree. So versatile spirit bomb is actuallly really good just a poor diss track. If he was more direct would have went down well
Dot flow is professional. End off... Dubbed.
professional liar
Barely know these two and i have to say P won