light thermofist may hit like a wet noodle, but its honestly fun with how far moves like crash and selino send me at high heat lol, close range i might as well be teleporting in their face, mid range i can close the distance pretty well, also thermo with moonlight is just beautiful, the orangey red and bluish purple look kinda pretty.
3:40 my math skills in arcane odyssey balancing vs my math skills in that one math exam also i calculated speed affinity wrong here 1 + (affinity - 1) / 2 is how it works where affinity equals magic speed * fighting style speed so 0.6 * 0.75 (0.45) so 1 + (0.45 - 1) / 2 = 0.725 and for crystal leg it's 0.78125x (which means crystal leg has 0.05625x more speed, in exchange for 0.1682x less dmg and 0.18x less size) i.e. 5% more speed 16% less dmg ~20% less size (17% less dmg and 18% less size to be specific)
cackling move magma, snow and explosion up, snow is just a better ice (speed affinity at the cost of slightly less damage) with magma and explosion being better than earth for ileg. acid could also be higher, not sure tho. shadow and ash prolly is in A tier only because Thermo is extremely broken lmao ash gains stun syn thermo complements with the insane stats of shadow
There's a bug rn, where either Ash can stun with Sailor style due to Scald, or Explosion can't stun with Sailor style due Sailor clearing before it can apply stun Either way Ash is a good option on all fs (make a Ash sailor) Thermo imbued is weird bc it's 1xMagicSpeed no matter the heat, with heat, speed is added to the equation, making things like metal thermo stupid (also you forgot to mention metal thermo being good cuz thermo bleed syn)
Savant will be meta when second awekening becomes available. . So any magic that has a moderate success rate with both weapons and fighting style. Lighting, Acid, Explosion, ice, and snow are gonna go crazy.
I'm surprised Ash sailor wasn't brought up it's pretty strong from what I've seen and the scalding effect for it would be akin to the 20% dmg you get from hitting burning targets and (I believe not certain feel free to correct me) that scalding DoT is more effective than burning.
Im confused why snow isnt higher than ice-- you basically said yourself in this video that its ice with more versatility, which I would agree is exactly what it is. You get the same stun as ice but you now have more attack speed at the cost of slightly lower damage. Right now, attack speed is a very important stat and if you have high attack speed it gives you the option to have more playstyles. Since ice is relatively slow, it would be better just to play aggressively and close; for snow, you do not have this problem, and can either do that or can get people from a distance with your high attack speed.
11:37 I made a build SPECIAL for plasma with 98 intensity and 76 power as a conjurer (I try warlock with thermo fist). As a warlock i had 15 dmg scorch effect for 5 seconds + 7 seconds burning effect which too dealed 10 dmg per tick in total of 145 dmg only scorch and burning effect with 155 dmg. I do 300 dmg per hit + the high intensity with the hp i have (1578 HP) it gives me enough to reach 2k HP. It even had a good synergy with Plasma since it deal 10% more dmg to scorched targhets (Of course is still outclassed by Explosion, because it gets 20% more dmg to charred targhets). Iron leg dmg is bigger then Thermo fist which is 1.15x and dealing more then 5% of the opponent health it gives bleeding which deal 5% for 5 seconds. Even with 20% Plasma dmg from bleeding you will possible reach 180-200 dmg per hit withou't dot with dot (+ the intensity i said before) you get max 20 dot per tick from plasma and 10 dot from bleeding for 7 seconds which both of them is 170 dmg, and deal 370 dmg per hit OF course the dmg is different and depends on the power your build has. Plasma isn't a fast magic at dealing dmg and not the most aggresive one, you have to play passive and calculated. Also having Plasma Warlock with Thermo is the most coolest thing i see in this game.
I own a plasma + thermo warlock and after seeing how BAD it is (Like I never knew its imbued is not that good) compared to other warlock magics makes me contemplate if I should just erase the file and use magma or explosion (Though I still kinda want to use it but... Mhm...)
**Corrections** Ash, though slightly outclassed, can be used with Sailor Style. Imbuing Ash onto Sailor Style gives it the Steam Imbuement, which has the same attributes as Fire. Though it is an imbuement DoT, meaning Ash only does 10% to Scalded targets, it stuns for the whole 0.8s status. Explosion does NOT petrify when imbued into thermo anymore. This might be a bug, but it's because imbuements got reworked in v1.13 where the Fighting Style applies its status first and then the Magic's. In order to stun with Explosion Thermo, you need to apply Charred first and then use Unimbued Thermo Fist to transform the catalyst status into Petrified. Bleed DoT gets cleared by the Burning DoT. Scalded clears Soaked since it's a Burning reskin.
i made an ash sailorfist build yesterday, it is definitely kinda silly, though it does get me to use magic a little bit more, since you do need to swap to actual ash magic to proc petrified off of scald, i do need to get rid of the unnecessary attack size since my best gear right now all happens to be crystallised or archaic, not my fault, i can thank a random legendary treasure chart right before argos for that XD
hi, could you make some updated videos on warlock? i am returning to the game and i have a explosion warlock and want to know if its still good in v1.16. also, is it normal that heat fist charges so slow now? thanks for the great video!
A Not so Fun fact: They sort of nerf'd lightning because that Magic DMG. Interaction used to say 30% more against Frozen but now its 20% more damage along with 20% against sandy, but it has 25% more damage against BLEEDING so its good for Iron Leg Edit: Researched again.. turn out they did the same for ice, along with a 25% more dmg against bleeding so this is also go for Iron Leg.. Iron Leg is making the other styles look like garbage now, whats next; Shadow is gonna have a 30% more dmg against bleeding for more Iron Leg?
i get it every time vetex and his gang nerf or change things so that we don't get builds like crystal/iron leg warlocks... and everytime he does someone finds the new meta that gets nerfed eventually.... but gaw-dayum they are just nerfing synergies into the ground. if things keep going at this rate synergies might just not even matter lol
I remember making a wood conj when the game first came out. Funny as hell but sadly that save was kinda hell to play on and it is now gone in favor of a warrior save.
Max attack speed light+cannonfist is probably the best build in the game for flat DPS, and light magic is one of the prettiest magics too Also, everything (except glass conjurer) is viable! Learning your own builds strengths and weaknesses can allow for some strangely extremely good "unoptimized" builds
pls excuse the trash voice over quality
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your voice got me rock hard
does for me too
does for me too
idk why but me too(im 12)
@@Ehe983_user Thats crazy (I might have to kidnap you)
tbh the viewer tierlist is more accurate
light thermofist may hit like a wet noodle, but its honestly fun with how far moves like crash and selino send me at high heat lol, close range i might as well be teleporting in their face, mid range i can close the distance pretty well, also thermo with moonlight is just beautiful, the orangey red and bluish purple look kinda pretty.
I saw someone using moonlight thermofist, and yeah, it's super pretty. That includes being hit, and having the colors glued to your screen
@@scouty1922 high heat 20-shots moonlight thermofist is pretty from any perspective, and its fast lol
Newly added to the Trello, for Nimbus, Thermo will apply Seared instead of burning, so fire warlocks may do searing and burning I believe
Blud casually gets thunder striked while talking about lighting 9:30
ye
Plasma is making it out of your C tier with the new update today.
3:40
my math skills in arcane odyssey balancing vs my math skills in that one math exam
also i calculated speed affinity wrong here
1 + (affinity - 1) / 2 is how it works
where affinity equals magic speed * fighting style speed so 0.6 * 0.75 (0.45)
so 1 + (0.45 - 1) / 2 = 0.725
and for crystal leg it's 0.78125x
(which means crystal leg has 0.05625x more speed, in exchange for 0.1682x less dmg and 0.18x less size)
i.e. 5% more speed 16% less dmg ~20% less size (17% less dmg and 18% less size to be specific)
Now I’m even more excited for the savant 2nd awakening, I can finally abuse earth iron leg at its full potential
Love the content
You should do another one when they change how stun works after nimbus
Yeah
cackling
move magma, snow and explosion up, snow is just a better ice (speed affinity at the cost of slightly less damage) with magma and explosion being better than earth for ileg. acid could also be higher, not sure tho.
shadow and ash prolly is in A tier only because Thermo is extremely broken lmao
ash gains stun syn
thermo complements with the insane stats of shadow
There's a bug rn, where either Ash can stun with Sailor style due to Scald, or Explosion can't stun with Sailor style due Sailor clearing before it can apply stun
Either way Ash is a good option on all fs (make a Ash sailor)
Thermo imbued is weird bc it's 1xMagicSpeed no matter the heat, with heat, speed is added to the equation, making things like metal thermo stupid (also you forgot to mention metal thermo being good cuz thermo bleed syn)
i made an ash sailor yesterday, its fun, deletes enemies faster than my main file, a light thermofist warlock, but both are fun lol
You should do savant tierlist. And also maybe do best class for each magic
Savant will be meta when second awekening becomes available. . So any magic that has a moderate success rate with both weapons and fighting style. Lighting, Acid, Explosion, ice, and snow are gonna go crazy.
magmurr is the best AO yter, he didnt leave to get the milk
I'm surprised Ash sailor wasn't brought up it's pretty strong from what I've seen and the scalding effect for it would be akin to the 20% dmg you get from hitting burning targets and (I believe not certain feel free to correct me) that scalding DoT is more effective than burning.
scaling is a reskinned burn but otherwise yeh ash thermo fist may be better
Im confused why snow isnt higher than ice-- you basically said yourself in this video that its ice with more versatility, which I would agree is exactly what it is. You get the same stun as ice but you now have more attack speed at the cost of slightly lower damage. Right now, attack speed is a very important stat and if you have high attack speed it gives you the option to have more playstyles. Since ice is relatively slow, it would be better just to play aggressively and close; for snow, you do not have this problem, and can either do that or can get people from a distance with your high attack speed.
11:37 I made a build SPECIAL for plasma with 98 intensity and 76 power as a conjurer (I try warlock with thermo fist). As a warlock i had 15 dmg scorch effect for 5 seconds + 7 seconds burning effect which too dealed 10 dmg per tick in total of 145 dmg only scorch and burning effect with 155 dmg. I do 300 dmg per hit + the high intensity with the hp i have (1578 HP) it gives me enough to reach 2k HP. It even had a good synergy with Plasma since it deal 10% more dmg to scorched targhets (Of course is still outclassed by Explosion, because it gets 20% more dmg to charred targhets). Iron leg dmg is bigger then Thermo fist which is 1.15x and dealing more then 5% of the opponent health it gives bleeding which deal 5% for 5 seconds. Even with 20% Plasma dmg from bleeding you will possible reach 180-200 dmg per hit withou't dot with dot (+ the intensity i said before) you get max 20 dot per tick from plasma and 10 dot from bleeding for 7 seconds which both of them is 170 dmg, and deal 370 dmg per hit
OF course the dmg is different and depends on the power your build has.
Plasma isn't a fast magic at dealing dmg and not the most aggresive one, you have to play passive and calculated.
Also having Plasma Warlock with Thermo is the most coolest thing i see in this game.
Do warlord fighting style tier list
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I own a plasma + thermo warlock and after seeing how BAD it is (Like I never knew its imbued is not that good) compared to other warlock magics makes me contemplate if I should just erase the file and use magma or explosion (Though I still kinda want to use it but... Mhm...)
Update: I erased it yesterday
I agree 80 with the tierlist. Bleeding maucs can be used with thermo and sailor, cause the fighting style's magic stack with bleed
**Corrections**
Ash, though slightly outclassed, can be used with Sailor Style. Imbuing Ash onto Sailor Style gives it the Steam Imbuement, which has the same attributes as Fire.
Though it is an imbuement DoT, meaning Ash only does 10% to Scalded targets, it stuns for the whole 0.8s status.
Explosion does NOT petrify when imbued into thermo anymore. This might be a bug, but it's because imbuements got reworked in v1.13 where the Fighting Style applies its status first and then the Magic's. In order to stun with Explosion Thermo, you need to apply Charred first and then use Unimbued Thermo Fist to transform the catalyst status into Petrified.
Bleed DoT gets cleared by the Burning DoT. Scalded clears Soaked since it's a Burning reskin.
i made an ash sailorfist build yesterday, it is definitely kinda silly, though it does get me to use magic a little bit more, since you do need to swap to actual ash magic to proc petrified off of scald, i do need to get rid of the unnecessary attack size since my best gear right now all happens to be crystallised or archaic, not my fault, i can thank a random legendary treasure chart right before argos for that XD
TYYYY IM A MAGMA USER AND IM SHREDDING IN PVP RN
hi, could you make some updated videos on warlock? i am returning to the game and i have a explosion warlock and want to know if its still good in v1.16. also, is it normal that heat fist charges so slow now? thanks for the great video!
When you said wood pairs well with thermofist, can this be applied to mage aswell? Fire wood.
ye, fire and wood have good synergy i think
3:01 i think your voice changer turned off for second bro
real voice revealed...
actually there's synergy with cfist since it can inflict bleeding after depleting 5% of enemy's max health just like iron leg does
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As a warlock a good base of attack size is 80+ don’t go for any more than 110 attack size, you will go insane.
I use shadow + sailor. Am I cooked?
A Not so Fun fact: They sort of nerf'd lightning because that Magic DMG. Interaction used to say 30% more against Frozen but now its 20% more damage along with 20% against sandy, but it has 25% more damage against BLEEDING so its good for Iron Leg
Edit: Researched again.. turn out they did the same for ice, along with a 25% more dmg against bleeding so this is also go for Iron Leg.. Iron Leg is making the other styles look like garbage now, whats next; Shadow is gonna have a 30% more dmg against bleeding for more Iron Leg?
Fire is a B tier not a c tier Fire Basic combat and others like ileg or thermo fist is good :|
You is crazy for putting fire that low, fire thermo has 2 dot effects and is well rounded
thank you soo much for the advise's
This is the old version, currently you cant use two fighting styles
i get it every time vetex and his gang nerf or change things so that we don't get builds like crystal/iron leg warlocks... and everytime he does someone finds the new meta that gets nerfed eventually.... but gaw-dayum they are just nerfing synergies into the ground.
if things keep going at this rate synergies might just not even matter lol
Between magma n explosion thermo which ones more fun?
magma
do mage next
honestly i think magma should be infront of explosion
Justice for light users
And not in the max attack speed department - light magic is just cool AF
wonder how this tierlist will look in nimbus after the stun changes
My dumb ass made a warlock build with the ONLY moderately outclassed magic. Im so dumb
Throughout Sailor Style and Fire Magic, I alone am the steamy one
do conjurer next
magma is lowkey better than ice
Water Cannonfist or Lightning Ironleg or Magma Thermofist or Wind Boxing or Plasma Basic, and nowhere inbetween.
And just like that with the new patch notes every warlock is now c tier ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“Iron leg is better for earth”
Nah, size go wroom! 🍷🗿
9:30 bro got hit by lightning while talking about lightning
Whats better for acid ileg or thermo
Hello, is a metal conjurer good?
Explosion thermo does not stun,the petrify clears right away
I just love the explosions when punching someone with overheat
Bro its 3am pls
Iangl ya’ll sleeping on magma ileg
What’s the best fighting style for crystal?
iron leg
@@Magmurrr thanks
wait til i optimise this cannonfist explosion build with a hell of a lot of atk size
No way shadow warlock is "slightly outlassed"
Explosion should be S
No magic is always the best magic - berserker user
Im a wood warlock
You are either insane, or a legend.
Or both.
@@scouty1922 both
I remember making a wood conj when the game first came out. Funny as hell but sadly that save was kinda hell to play on and it is now gone in favor of a warrior save.
YO DUDE YT SAYS THE GAME IS WORLD OF WARCRAFT LOL
el trueno de dios y talk spanish and inglish if you don´t understand then u se google
guess im fucked for picking light warlock
time to reset stats and go for warlord or berserker
@@Varkolyx ;-;
Max attack speed light+cannonfist is probably the best build in the game for flat DPS, and light magic is one of the prettiest magics too
Also, everything (except glass conjurer) is viable! Learning your own builds strengths and weaknesses can allow for some strangely extremely good "unoptimized" builds
I love using ice sailor
Water leg is funny and has a 5% bleed synergy
I leg
I leg
FIRST(excluding Magmurr)
do i switch off ironleg and go thermo im explosion
Im pretty sure thermo fist just got nerfed kinda bad so its extremely hard to keep up the heat
Where is my mage tierlist.
Viewers tier list was better
Ice conjurer is superior
still gonna go fire sailor cuz funny scalding
Tbh yall sleeping on metal.
Are you Vtuber?
he is now
@@lamelime1 😨
yippie yap
16:02 💀💀💀
Terrible, give me control of your channel
AYO??? I WILL NOT GET MY ALL-ROUNDED MAGIC (SHADOW) GET SLIGHTLY OUTCLASSED BY SOME CRINGE MAGIC TYPES!
Shadow + Basic still the GOAT in AO Warlock Meta Builds
Shadow magic is funnn I should try this (and a conjurer)
Bro shut up glass and wood r the best like fr stop spreading misinformation when you dont play the game
Does he know chat?
Also, check the title and the date this was uploaded
meow
Lightning trash