No lie, one thing I love about The Sopranos it’s like an actual real life crew, the good times are in the beginning the start and the middle and then after a while they go through certain problems, and they fall apart During the later seasons it gets darker and you realize it really is coming to an end.
You forgot to mention that Chris nailed Juliana Margulies. More than anything, this enraged Tony and sent him various degrees of commitment to end Moltesantti.
Notice how after Chrissy died, Tony was blatantly looking at his widow's sexy boobs as she breastfed. He also spitefully went to Vegas just to bone Chrissy's old side piece.
Lol chrissy really used Tony's money to make a revenge fantasy. Also, Ben Kingsley probaly would've done cleaver in real life he's been in some dog shit over the years
Sexy Beast was great and Ghandi was supposed to be good (not seen it) but everything else I've seen Ben Kingsley in, I thought he was pretty bad. His cameo in Luxury Lounge was terrible. Not sure why he even agreed to it and, in playing himself, he just came across as a dick.
You don't kill someone if you love them unconditionally. Tony never loved christopher if he mocked Chris's attempts to become better. Chris was a willing victim to Tony's rage and eventual murder.
Ur tripping he killed him because he was high crashed a car and saw Chris could have killed his daughter and even tony himself also he asked tony to help him pass the drug test and that is what killed him tony was not gonna kill him if he did not know that
Let's not overlook the psychological importance the cleaver represents in Tony's deep rooted anxieties. Tony's first childhood panic attack comes after witnessing his dad chopping off a "degenerate gambler's" finger. If Christopher isn't wearing that stupid Cleaver ballcap during the accident, maybe Tony spares his life? Definitely a triggering image for Tone.
I think there was one other pivotal scene: When Christopher was hosting the cookout and he reminded Tony that his father, Dickie, "Tony's hero, was nothing more than a junkie." Tony literally was taken aback by the comment and then immediately accepting that Christopher would fare no better and thus he would always be a liability to the crew. From that point-on Tony wasn't going to let an opportunity pass him by to kill him. The car accident was the perfect alibi.
I agree about the scene, but I think the conclusion Tony took from that comment was that Chris only remembered his father Dickie, who was Tony’s version of Tony to Chris (mentor/father figure type) was that he was a no good junkie and didn’t give him any credit for the good he did. Which also played into his insecurities about Cleaver and how he already knew Chris viewed him as just a violent bully and didn’t appreciate or remember any of the good times/life advice he provided over the years which really ate at Tony because that was a close relationship he thought he had and came to realization it was all for not and he wasn’t viewed how he thought he was by a person he loved and once looked up to him.
I believe it was more than just one incident destroying their relationship. The movie cleaver which describes Tony's character and affair with Adriana. The fact that Chris had relations with Juliana the real estate agent. Once that occurred Tony pushed Chrissy aside and replaced him with Bobby.
Movies were in Chrissy's blood . Among his addictions was one millennials will never know ... Block Buster He admits to Adrianna he gets high off of that candy and carpet smell . I remember that smell too - A very 80's smell It was one of the smells of the start of the weekend
I was born in 83 but the kids born in the 90’s are just the worst. I feel like I was raised with just the right amount of old school and new school in me. I think growing up in the city helped too, a time where we played Sega in the morning and at night, more in the extreme heat and deep winter months but we actually went outside and played sports and chased girls. These kids today????? They wanna tell you how to live your life at 14 but have never worked a job, paid real estate taxes or changed a flat tire. But yeah - that smell of the video store was the best!!!!! And sneaking in the adult section to cop a peek!!!
The "Chickentown" ending was, for me at least, the grittiest, most haunting and powerful episode ending of the series. The looks in both Tony and Christopher's eyes as they hug say so much about the tumultuous relationship between the two of them to this point, and where it's headed. To add to it (unrelated to the subject of this video) the inner rage in Phil, and the foreboding of it all, mixed with this song just makes it flawless. So perfect.
I never liked nor will I ever forgive Christopher for beating and getting Adriana killed. However, I do somewhat feel sorry for Christopher. He never ever had a positive role model, mocked for his sobriety, hearing disgusting jokes about his daughter, and was brought up in the mafia life. He thought that's what he wanted even though while on the side he wanted to break into the movie business. But as time goes on he realizes being in the mafia isn't what it's cracked up to be
Chris did asshole shit but I do view him as a victim of his lifestyle’s pressures and the fact that despite everybody being “family”, they’ll kill you, rat on you, or scam you on a moment’s notice. The only thing that keeps “the family” together is money and the threat of pain of death.
@@Rapscallion227 Absolutely. Chris was groomed into the life only to be undermined, disrespected and ultimately murdered by the one man who supposedly "loved" him. Always remember the scene when Chris is drunk, talking about his daughter with Paulie breaking his balls. The camera pans around the room and reveals Tony, looking like the devil himself, laughing at Christopher being humiliated. Tony was pure evil.
I like to think that actually Little Carmine was absolutely brilliant. After all it was he and Butchie on top at the end of the series. And from what I could tell he stayed out of the crosshairs of the government.
@@jpmnky Maybe it was dumb luck? I do want to believe that he and Butchie were the victors to who the spoils belonged in the end. It would make sense since when we first see him, he did make that Louis the whatever's reference. I believe it foreshadowed what happened in the end. And, I think it was Paulie.
Nailed it again!! This is my favorite of your videos. Chase and the writers set this up in season one with Christopher having an identity crisis obsessing about his “arch”. The stage 5 ending has always stuck with me. I’m super impressed you picked up on the song. Outstanding work!!
What makes this channel unique to all the others is the level of depth in psychological analysis of the characters, stuff we all thought at some point but couldn't voice eloquently, excellent video my friend
Great video. You left out Julianna though. Chris fucking her as unconscious payback for Adriana was another issue added to Tony and Chris's beef. Tony was never with Julianna but he was there in his mind. "Are you gonna hog all the ice"
I totally agree. This may sound goofy but your theory was why i also thought that was why Julianna & Adriana names were very similar. I could be reaching but if not, Chase was a freaking genius
@@datruth9585 So if your theory about the similar sounding names is true, that makes David Chase a genius, right? You are saying that you are a genius by assuming that this bit of writing, which you have imagined - which isn't that great, even if it was intentional and certainly wasn't an example of "genius" level writing - was intentional. You certainly have a high opinion of yourself.
@@the_local_bigamist Ugh, no. I was only saying if that's what David Chase was implying based off the theory I was commenting on. Then he's a genius for intentionally making the names the same. That's it. Nothing to do with my self esteem smh. Wtf
Tony loved Christopher. He had a vision of their future together and invested in his nephew significantly in addition to giving him a pass on things that would have been dealt with harshly had it been anyone else. Any other boss would have had Chris killed for any number of reasons aside from the fact that his drug addiction made him a loose cannon, easier to flip. The others saw this and resented Chris for it. Despite the sacrifices Tony made for Chris (in spite of Christopher's flaws, blatant disrespect of Tony, incompetence, and weaknesses), the nephew who was once a source of pride for Tony became a constant source of disappointment/stress to Tony. To add insult to injury, Chris felt ENTITLED to the perks/life that only a boss is afforded and Tony was acutely aware of that fact. You're going to point out the giant "sacrifice" Christopher made for his uncle, right? Giving Adriana up had more to do with Christopher's inherent selfishness than anything else;when Chris saw that struggling, unhappy family at the gas station, he saw his and Adriana's future. The man's discontent with the situation he had created for himself made Chris realize he didn't want a mediocre life rife full of regret for his decision to build a life on the run with Adriana. Tony loved Christopher as much as he COULD love him until it became obvious just how much Christopher hated Tony. Resentment is a two way street sometimes. When you sacrifice, invest, teach and train, promote, makes excuses for and give opportunities to someone who ultimately resents you for your position/what you've worked hard to have in life, that in itself breeds resentment. There is always a straw that breaks the camel's back and in this case, it was the Cleaver movie.Tony was initially proud of Christopher's accomplishment because Tony's love for his nephew blinded him to what was obvious to everyone else except Tony: that his nephew hated him. It had to be POINTED out to Tony, in fact. That movie was the ultimate act of disrespect toward Tony and the final straw. When Tony admitted to Melfi that he was relieved that Chris was gone, it was because his nephew was an incredible drag on Tony's emotions for many years, and to be able to finally let that negativity go was freedom to some degree to Tony. Love is a funny thing-you can love your nephew his whole life with all you have, give him opportunities he would have NEVER had were it not for you, make sacrifices to invest in his future and well being, make excuses for his disrespect, put yourself, your financial well being and reputation, and your future at risk for him ...but when he delivers that final slap in the face, it's not love you feel anymore-It's loss, anger, disgust, disappointment, grief and then... nothing. This show triggers me in a couple of ways. This evolution of the relationship between Tony Soprano and Christopher Moltisanti was one of them. Tony loved Christopher as much as he could have until it wasn't love he was feeling anymore.
That's wrong Christopher always want to be a made guy and be an important mobster in the family but he doesn't have the patient,in addition to this if he wants to leave he would have gone with Adriana in witness protection program but he didn't and that's a sign of his love to this life and to Tonny
He went to tony and told the truth and said Adriana was a rat.... and they whacked her. He gave up the “love of his life” just to stay in cosa nostra. Wouldn’t have done that if he didn’t wanna be in the mob
@@giannirusso8406 so true , but that what make me woudering why tonny killed him , even if he had a drugs problem that's not a reason to kill one of the loyal man in your team .
Great video...so on point...always hated that We didn't get to see Christopher at the height of the NY vs Jersey war at the end...he was a proven solider...Tonys and Christopher's relationship was unique...at times filled with admiration, yet at times,.volatile...btw...what is the music at the end...great choice...
I always thought tony and Christopher had the closest and most complicated relationship it really was love hate Chris saw tony as a surrogate father the guy he's going to hell for and Chris was the only one Tony wanted to take over for him at one point the only one he trusted they had issues before but I always felt adriana was the turning point I don't know if Chris ever believed nothing happened then when he chose tony over her I don't think he felt tony ever appreciated what that cost him so his resentment of tony grew and as Chris got deeper into drugs tony couldn't trust him and begin to see him as a liability
I've always felt there was an element of mercy killing when Tony murdered Christopher, there's hate, of course, and he's a huge liability, but he's also nothing but a painful shell of himself. Maybe Tony rationalized he was putting Chris out of his misery
@@aduantas I totally agree. Tony's guilt toward his destruction of others is rare and far between, and also completely misguided. He feels guilty for passing on his " poisoned blood" on to his son, when the boy starts having panic attack and depression, which he had no control over, but rationalizes feels murder is something that needs to be done
Tony and Carmela were the biggest hypocrites on this show, Carmela blaming Tony for their son being depressed because of his breakup. When she acted the same way when furio went back to Italy!!!
IMO Tony never cared about Christopher. He pretended to care and to help him just as long as Christopher was helping his mafia ambitions and Chrissy was "kissing the ring". Once Tony realized Chris was an actual threat to him and his mafia empire, he got rid of him as ruthlessly as anyone else he has killed. He did not care Chrissy was dead and once it actually registered he was relieved that he had to no longer pretend to support someone who constantly screwed up and disappointed him in the end. Combine that with him no longer being able to turn on Tony and Tony almost became ecstatic to be out of that pressure when he took his trip to Las Vegas. Its just a reminder Tony was the bad guy all along despite us pulling for him (you can't help but do that, cmon!). I do not think Tony was a total sociopath. Very close, but the fact that he cared for his children and he showed it and the weaknesses that brings proves there was some bit of him capable of feeling. That said he was severely damaged and Dr Melfie gave up on him (which honestly was understandable) just as I think he reached a point where he could be saved. Instead he killed Christopher and his transition as an unsalvageable character was completed. He sealed Chrissy's fate, but in turn sealed his own.
I think he cared about Chrissy, it's just that there's limits, and I don't think anyone can deny Chrissy overstayed his welcome a little bit. I also disagree that Tony wasn't a sociopath, because he was completely, what he isn't is a psychopath. The thing to note with sociopaths is they can feel, it's just all their emotions and the way they express them is all fucked up, almost like a perversion of humanity.
Agreed, Tony was just using him as his get out card and once he realised chrissy wasn’t up to that due to his addiction issues he took the first opportunity he had to clip him
I forget, did he kill chrissy before or after melfie cut him loose? I agree with most of your comment other than thinking Melfie wasn't thinking for herself and was pretty harsh the way she let him go. Also unprofessional about it. Antagonizing him and everything.
Chrissys handling of the Triburo Towers situation should have made him a legend right then and there, but he came down with a unusually bad case of cowboy-itus and was never the same after
@@jonsam4842 the funniest part about that dream is that’s how dreams really are, they make no fucking sense and you know it, yet still go along with it.
I thought the beginning of the end of their relationship occurred at the welcoming party for Furio (D-Girl episode, but I'm not a 100% percent sure.) When Tony gave Chris 10 minutes to decide on his future, that opened the door in Tony's mind that he could say goodbye to Chris and that he valued Chris more as an "employee" than a family member.
Fun fact. the cornicello has another name: cornutto/cornetto, which is when you make the shape of bulls horns with your hand (🤘) at another man. It means “you’re a cuckold” and is a very big no no in certain parts of Italy.
The show started off so light and playful almost like a comedy to an extent but it got so dark towards the end and David chases choice to make the show visually darker was brilliant too
"Did you ever notice he's the only motherfucker who can smoke a cigarette in the rain with his hands tied behind his back? That nose is like a natural canopy."
You left out Dickie being a junkie. Thats when Tony realizes that addiction really is a disease and Christopher will never be fully cured. That was the point of no return.
Tony didn’t have to be suspicious of JT if you recall he is great at reading people like he did with Barone at the diner - pretty much much a mind reader
I see the relationship between Christopher and Tony as one of a trauma bond between a narcissist and their main supply provider. Tony's personality once again acts like the black hole that sits at the centre of every narcissist and the closer Christopher gets to Tony the more immanent his destruction becomes, sadly it is only with the event horizon so far behind him that he realises he is being crushed by the singularity and smothered in the darkness and by then it is far too late ...the scene at the gas station after Adrianna confesses to him, would be the event horizon and after that Christopher goes through the five stages and acceptance of his fate for him is when he gets back on the gear, because he stops fighting the pull and goes with the current, may as well be high all the time if your life is misery and your fate is sealed. It is also when Tony realises Christopher is bang on the brown that he accepts what he has been denying to himself, that, ultimately, Christopher hates him and that Christopher is, and always was, a liability that he should have dealt with in season one episode one, with all the bullshit surrounding his car and him coming in late. Tony also accepts, far too late, that family and business should never mix, because up until this point the family members he has been in business and even those within the business he loves as a family with have had to die or have tried to kill him or have betrayed him in some way unacceptable to his narcissistic personality. When Tony kills Christopher he has accepted the truth, from his own perspective at least.
There wasn't ever much love from Tony towards Chris. He used Chris until there was nothing left but a shell of the man he used to be. The moment Tony became truly irredeemable was when he contributed his winning streak returning in the casinos to Chris dying.
A really big thing, was Tony Soprano, John Sacromoni, and Phil Leotardo each had their own Protege. Joey Peeps, Christopher Moltisanti, and Gerry Torciano. But each of those proteges died before their “mafia fathers”. John Sacrimoni loved Joey Peeps and was infuriated. Phil Leotardo, was heartbroken but didn’t do much about it, he killed Doc Santorou for personal insult. And Tony Soprano was gleeful he murdered Christopher.
The embrace at the christening reminds me of when Fredo hugs Michael after their mother's death , and Michael looks over at Al Neri, knowing that they were planning his death.
do u think there was purposeful foreshadowing of Christopher would die when he had his nose pressed against & smothered by Tony's shoulder during their Baptism hug?
My favorite scene in the series is when Chris and Tony are arguing at a funeral. Tony gets upset when Chris says something like “I loved you.” Tony charges forward, grabs Chris and says “If you don’t love me anymore, then that breaks my heart but you WILL respect me.” It’s so intense.
I love the way you pronounce "Corny Cello" I've heard Cello's described in different ways throughout my life but I've *NEVER* heard of them described as "Corny" 🤣🤣🤣 that's funny¡!¡!
What cracks me up is they make a big deal outta addicts and being on drugs (it's weak,etc) but then most seem addicted to gambling none consider that their "drug"
I also think tony not letting him kill Jackie junior was a major turning point in their relationship I think Chrissy telling him he doesn’t love him anymore really hurt the big man haha
Chrissy's death is the most significant moment in Ton'ys character development. You can't deny Tony has Anti-Social personality disorder after he kills Chrissy
Tony is a complete sociopath I don't think anyone can deny that, what's up for debate here though is if Tony ever really cared about Chrissy, and at least in my opinion, he did in his own twisted way.
@@bryanmejia4826 I feel up until Chrissy s death any viewer siding with Tony could easily explain away or justify his behavior. Chrissys death really showed what a jerk Tony is, that and the rest of season 6
My relationship with my former employer was similar. He was always "Uncle _____" as a kid, a longtime family friend, and because he only had daughters, he and I had a weird bond that turned into 19 years of being this guy's indentured $UDT/minimum wage slave to the point where both my attorney and his Worker's Comp attorney mutually agreed that it was a psych abuse case. It was a toxic relationship like Christopher's and Tony's, although it took a huge toll on all of us, I realize in hindsight how much he exploited and abused me. We needed each other, because I knew where everything was and how to fix it. He was a bag of shit like Tony in terms of being an asshole boss to deal with. He and his wife are total ingrates because I kept their shitty store alive while they got to be grandparents during their grand kiddies' cutest years. Instead it went down the way it did. They say "Don't work for family" for a reason. Lots of reasons in fact.
I'm not sure who it was that made the suggestion/decision to have the "Stage 5" episode end with "Evidently Chickentown" by John Cooper Clarke, but they seriously deserve the highest possible recognition for that decision. Maybe I'm biased, as some who comes from Manchester, England, like J C Clarke. But, as if The Sopranos weren't already enough of a masterpiece, using "Evidently Chickentown" makes the tension and bleakness so much more relatable to me. That dreary Manchester/Salford accent, the overuse of the word "bloody" (which is common for us, but brilliantly foreshadows Christopher's "end", as mentioned in the video), and the tinny, droning percussion always reminds me of being stood in the pissing rain on a dim, gray Manchester afternoon. Absolute masterpiece.
@@alexmuenster2102 Tony B was smarter & more charismatic. He would have stepped into Tony S spot had he not gotten busted. And Tony S knows it. Along with Sil & Paulie
When you have a protagonist and Deuteragonist like Tony and Christopher in the world of the Mafia and The Sopranos where you should never count on a happy ending I think there's 2 natural endings: The 1 we got in the car or pulling through all struggles and when the end is drawing near it's the if we go down we go down together deal. I completely understand how Tony and Christopher's story ended but despite everything, everytime Tony pauses briefly there's a huge part of me that wants to beg Tony to pull Chrissy out. I know the together to the end narrative is a bit corny for the Sopranos but that's how special these 2 characters are and how special their bond was for so long. I so wish there was alternate footage of Chrissy living at least until they go to the mattresses. Would absolutely love to see you do a video on what if the Bond of Tony and Christopher survived through everything as it did for most of the series and Tony had his nethew and other son with him against New York. If you ever had any interest in that. I enjoy thinking about how that would have played out. Meadow for instance, will always be the thing Tony loves more than anything. If Tony had spared Chrissy even after the strains put on their bond and the monster Tony became if it happened that way would Christopher represent the one spark of goodness left in Tony's life as a Boss? The goodness we see much more of in the early seasons even when it's Omerta related.
We can add more to this w/ the Movie. Dickie's love of Tony and then abandoning him....Tony had a father who was a criminal...in and out of jail....a sociopath mother....a bitter uncle....Dickie was his father but then tried to ignore him (for the right reasons) before his death. Tony doesn't understand love because he never experienced it from his betters....and he did that to the ones that loved him.
I think that Soprano killed Christopher because he was nuts, thinking that Christopher thought of him as only an "assh*** bully" who hates Soprano. Christopher did have mixed feelings it was because Christopher thought that he, Christopher couldn't live up to his i.e. Soprano's expectations or ideal. Soprano was tired of Christopher and his bs but there was no reason to off the guy at the time that he did.
Tony and chrissy sealed their fate once they messed with the vipers
Rumor has it the vipers kill Tony and his entire family in the finale.
“We’re with the vipers!”
@@clayton7993
I highly doubt that
@@jacobdean4833 rumor has it jokes frequently go straight over your head
@@stevenstuart152 That's nice
Notice in the last episode Christopher was in that Tony stopped calling Chris his “nephew” and referred to him at the hospital as his “friend”.
Wow
Omg
Guilt, perhaps?
Chrissy’s arc was a natural canopy.
noah had an arc!
Lucas Brasi sleeps with the fishes
You can’t make that shit up !
@@lambrosk3790 lol. What the fuck you talking about? I just did.
Very observant of you. The sacred and the propane.
No lie, one thing I love about The Sopranos it’s like an actual real life crew, the good times are in the beginning the start and the middle and then after a while they go through certain problems, and they fall apart During the later seasons it gets darker and you realize it really is coming to an end.
Spot on
Yea..like goodfellas casino donnie brasco the godfather series scarface Gotti or the Irishman?
@@FUCKLOREMAGGOT did you really compare Irishman to sopranos
one haha no. I was just saying the beginning middle and end sequence is something that is in all mob stories
A real life crew? They’re a glorified crew!! Phil did 20 f-kin years.
You forgot to mention that Chris nailed Juliana Margulies. More than anything, this enraged Tony and sent him various degrees of commitment to end Moltesantti.
For real, that was a contribution. Tony's ego was very bruised
Yeah, but did Tony plant the flag?
And he took the toblerone
Notice how after Chrissy died, Tony was blatantly looking at his widow's sexy boobs as she breastfed. He also spitefully went to Vegas just to bone Chrissy's old side piece.
@@charles1964 Excellent question. Maybe he pitched a tent, but means nothing if he didn't plant a flag.
James Gandolfini is a legend and the best mob boss ever, but imo Michael Imperioli is very underrated for his part as Christopher.
Both the 2 best roles ever
Hes not underrated to the people who matter. He won an Emmy for this role.
@@GarrettP130 true, and very well deserved
@@Zzrdemon6633 k
The word underrated is the most overrated word on the internet.
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Paulie during the movie: “put it in the trunk”
Lmao
Lol chrissy really used Tony's money to make a revenge fantasy. Also, Ben Kingsley probaly would've done cleaver in real life he's been in some dog shit over the years
Never liked Ben Kingsley. Think any of the Baldwin boys are better- even Alec dammit.
@@brettmajors69karaoke danny Baldwin took him to fuckin acting school!
Sexy Beast was great
@@pennystocklocks I need to see it still
Sexy Beast was great and Ghandi was supposed to be good (not seen it) but everything else I've seen Ben Kingsley in, I thought he was pretty bad. His cameo in Luxury Lounge was terrible. Not sure why he even agreed to it and, in playing himself, he just came across as a dick.
You don't kill someone if you love them unconditionally. Tony never loved christopher if he mocked Chris's attempts to become better. Chris was a willing victim to Tony's rage and eventual murder.
Willing in which way?
@@alnat950 Willing to do whatever it takes to stay in that life.
@Nero Wynn Tony was likely a psychopath, and so was incapable of love, empathy or guilt.
Ur tripping he killed him because he was high crashed a car and saw Chris could have killed his daughter and even tony himself also he asked tony to help him pass the drug test and that is what killed him tony was not gonna kill him if he did not know that
Tony didn’t love anyone. If you read up on sociopathy and narcissism, it's all there
Let's not overlook the psychological importance the cleaver represents in Tony's deep rooted anxieties. Tony's first childhood panic attack comes after witnessing his dad chopping off a "degenerate gambler's" finger. If Christopher isn't wearing that stupid Cleaver ballcap during the accident, maybe Tony spares his life? Definitely a triggering image for Tone.
“Very good, @KidFresh71. The subset of the scene is missed by some” - Little Carmine
I think there was one other pivotal scene: When Christopher was hosting the cookout and he reminded Tony that his father, Dickie, "Tony's hero, was nothing more than a junkie." Tony literally was taken aback by the comment and then immediately accepting that Christopher would fare no better and thus he would always be a liability to the crew. From that point-on Tony wasn't going to let an opportunity pass him by to kill him. The car accident was the perfect alibi.
I agree about the scene, but I think the conclusion Tony took from that comment was that Chris only remembered his father Dickie, who was Tony’s version of Tony to Chris (mentor/father figure type) was that he was a no good junkie and didn’t give him any credit for the good he did. Which also played into his insecurities about Cleaver and how he already knew Chris viewed him as just a violent bully and didn’t appreciate or remember any of the good times/life advice he provided over the years which really ate at Tony because that was a close relationship he thought he had and came to realization it was all for not and he wasn’t viewed how he thought he was by a person he loved and once looked up to him.
I believe it was more than just one incident destroying their relationship. The movie cleaver which describes Tony's character and affair with Adriana. The fact that Chris had relations with Juliana the real estate agent. Once that occurred Tony pushed Chrissy aside and replaced him with Bobby.
And also Chris absence around the crew didn't help either. Him distancing himself due to sobriety
I talked about the film in the video!
@@SopranoTheories indeed
Christopher should have had a role model like Phil Leotardo, show him his 20 years in the shinebox.
Lol
Imagine a show where Christopher was Phil’s nephew instead of Tony’s
Or 15 years, like that animal Blundetto, can't even say his name...
I like how you call him email kolar. Also cwistafuh chops Ralphie up with a cleavah
If they had cut him up in the work area email could have been a meal.
Withah Cleavah *
@@foodank_atr817 lold at this
Chris regretted getting made the minutes he found out what it was all about .
Kind of a shit job. Can't quit. Can't choose who you work with. Have to take orders or your life won't mean shit. Not much you get in return.
@@shreddykrueger3776 smart and lucky ones has become bosses,yet few died as a free man from natural cause
Worst from both worlds, cult plus pyramid scheme.
Tony is a sociopath could only love Christopher as long as he was in check.
Movies were in Chrissy's blood . Among his addictions was one millennials will never know ... Block Buster He admits to Adrianna he gets high off of that candy and carpet smell . I remember that smell too - A very 80's smell It was one of the smells of the start of the weekend
I'm a millennial and I went to blockbuster?? You mean zoomers?
I was born in 83 but the kids born in the 90’s are just the worst. I feel like I was raised with just the right amount of old school and new school in me. I think growing up in the city helped too, a time where we played Sega in the morning and at night, more in the extreme heat and deep winter months but we actually went outside and played sports and chased girls. These kids today????? They wanna tell you how to live your life at 14 but have never worked a job, paid real estate taxes or changed a flat tire. But yeah - that smell of the video store was the best!!!!! And sneaking in the adult section to cop a peek!!!
Dude millennials grew up with Blockbuster, we’re from the 80’s so we were there for the rise & fall of it. You seem to be mixing up with Gen Z.
@@jammin2575 You're right ... now that I think about it I took my kids there to pick out movies & they're millenials too
In the UK we had a chain of rental places that was called Global Video.
I loved the opening of The Many Saints of Newark with Christopher narrating the story from hell.
It was genius
The "Chickentown" ending was, for me at least, the grittiest, most haunting and powerful episode ending of the series. The looks in both Tony and Christopher's eyes as they hug say so much about the tumultuous relationship between the two of them to this point, and where it's headed.
To add to it (unrelated to the subject of this video) the inner rage in Phil, and the foreboding of it all, mixed with this song just makes it flawless. So perfect.
That was an amazing scene, especially with New York included
He sealed his fate when he stole some of Silvio's fries and when he ate Tony's Tablerone bar
those were Mr. Petraglia's Toblerones
Chris also uses a cleaver to hack apart Ralph & warns Artie that he knows how to use one.
I never liked nor will I ever forgive Christopher for beating and getting Adriana killed. However, I do somewhat feel sorry for Christopher. He never ever had a positive role model, mocked for his sobriety, hearing disgusting jokes about his daughter, and was brought up in the mafia life. He thought that's what he wanted even though while on the side he wanted to break into the movie business. But as time goes on he realizes being in the mafia isn't what it's cracked up to be
he gave up adrianna because he didn't want a shit life like that familly at the gas station
Chrissy got what was comin to him...he was warned time and again & given way more chances than anyone else woulda got.
Tony didn't help, undermining his sobriety and trying to fuck Ade
@@tapset true that
Chris did asshole shit but I do view him as a victim of his lifestyle’s pressures and the fact that despite everybody being “family”, they’ll kill you, rat on you, or scam you on a moment’s notice. The only thing that keeps “the family” together is money and the threat of pain of death.
@mcharleau Tony was a shitty boss he could never take good advice
@@Rapscallion227 Absolutely. Chris was groomed into the life only to be undermined, disrespected and ultimately murdered by the one man who supposedly "loved" him. Always remember the scene when Chris is drunk, talking about his daughter with Paulie breaking his balls. The camera pans around the room and reveals Tony, looking like the devil himself, laughing at Christopher being humiliated. Tony was pure evil.
Good analysis. Very observant. The sacred and the propane.
He also has many more videos under his subspecies...
@@playbackproductions1 😆
I like to think that actually Little Carmine was absolutely brilliant. After all it was he and Butchie on top at the end of the series. And from what I could tell he stayed out of the crosshairs of the government.
@@jpmnky Maybe it was dumb luck? I do want to believe that he and Butchie were the victors to who the spoils belonged in the end. It would make sense since when we first see him, he did make that Louis the whatever's reference. I believe it foreshadowed what happened in the end. And, I think it was Paulie.
Lol!!
Nailed it again!! This is my favorite of your videos. Chase and the writers set this up in season one with Christopher having an identity crisis obsessing about his “arch”. The stage 5 ending has always stuck with me. I’m super impressed you picked up on the song.
Outstanding work!!
I wanted to see Cleaver ,I compromised,I watched South Beach Strumpets instead
What a great sub species
I saw that movie, I thought it was bullshit.
It's a TV progrm..... A movie.
I got sucked inta da internet through a data port
Love this channel. Love how you interpret the sopranos with your theories.
5:05 You don't know that. Maybe Christopher returned from beyond the grave and killed Tony.
That "Members Only" guy was just a decoy!
What makes this channel unique to all the others is the level of depth in psychological analysis of the characters, stuff we all thought at some point but couldn't voice eloquently, excellent video my friend
Great video. You left out Julianna though. Chris fucking her as unconscious payback for Adriana was another issue added to Tony and Chris's beef. Tony was never with Julianna but he was there in his mind.
"Are you gonna hog all the ice"
I totally agree. This may sound goofy but your theory was why i also thought that was why Julianna & Adriana names were very similar. I could be reaching but if not, Chase was a freaking genius
@@datruth9585 So if your theory about the similar sounding names is true, that makes David Chase a genius, right? You are saying that you are a genius by assuming that this bit of writing, which you have imagined - which isn't that great, even if it was intentional and certainly wasn't an example of "genius" level writing - was intentional. You certainly have a high opinion of yourself.
@@the_local_bigamist Ugh, no. I was only saying if that's what David Chase was implying based off the theory I was commenting on. Then he's a genius for intentionally making the names the same. That's it. Nothing to do with my self esteem smh. Wtf
Good point
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Tony loved Christopher. He had a vision of their future together and invested in his nephew significantly in addition to giving him a pass on things that would have been dealt with harshly had it been anyone else. Any other boss would have had Chris killed for any number of reasons aside from the fact that his drug addiction made him a loose cannon, easier to flip. The others saw this and resented Chris for it. Despite the sacrifices Tony made for Chris (in spite of Christopher's flaws, blatant disrespect of Tony, incompetence, and weaknesses), the nephew who was once a source of pride for Tony became a constant source of disappointment/stress to Tony. To add insult to injury, Chris felt ENTITLED to the perks/life that only a boss is afforded and Tony was acutely aware of that fact. You're going to point out the giant "sacrifice" Christopher made for his uncle, right? Giving Adriana up had more to do with Christopher's inherent selfishness than anything else;when Chris saw that struggling, unhappy family at the gas station, he saw his and Adriana's future. The man's discontent with the situation he had created for himself made Chris realize he didn't want a mediocre life rife full of regret for his decision to build a life on the run with Adriana. Tony loved Christopher as much as he COULD love him until it became obvious just how much Christopher hated Tony. Resentment is a two way street sometimes. When you sacrifice, invest, teach and train, promote, makes excuses for and give opportunities to someone who ultimately resents you for your position/what you've worked hard to have in life, that in itself breeds resentment. There is always a straw that breaks the camel's back and in this case, it was the Cleaver movie.Tony was initially proud of Christopher's accomplishment because Tony's love for his nephew blinded him to what was obvious to everyone else except Tony: that his nephew hated him. It had to be POINTED out to Tony, in fact. That movie was the ultimate act of disrespect toward Tony and the final straw. When Tony admitted to Melfi that he was relieved that Chris was gone, it was because his nephew was an incredible drag on Tony's emotions for many years, and to be able to finally let that negativity go was freedom to some degree to Tony. Love is a funny thing-you can love your nephew his whole life with all you have, give him opportunities he would have NEVER had were it not for you, make sacrifices to invest in his future and well being, make excuses for his disrespect, put yourself, your financial well being and reputation, and your future at risk for him ...but when he delivers that final slap in the face, it's not love you feel anymore-It's loss, anger, disgust, disappointment, grief and then... nothing. This show triggers me in a couple of ways. This evolution of the relationship between Tony Soprano and Christopher Moltisanti was one of them. Tony loved Christopher as much as he could have until it wasn't love he was feeling anymore.
So funny that Jackie Jr wanted to be his place, and Christopher's wanted out of mob and be citizen.
That's wrong Christopher always want to be a made guy and be an important mobster in the family but he doesn't have the patient,in addition to this if he wants to leave he would have gone with Adriana in witness protection program but he didn't and that's a sign of his love to this life and to Tonny
He went to tony and told the truth and said Adriana was a rat.... and they whacked her. He gave up the “love of his life” just to stay in cosa nostra. Wouldn’t have done that if he didn’t wanna be in the mob
@@coolbig6059 yup
@@giannirusso8406 so true , but that what make me woudering why tonny killed him , even if he had a drugs problem that's not a reason to kill one of the loyal man in your team .
@Wynn Wynn but tonny also has a family that doesn't mean he wasn't loyal to the mob.
Great Analysis! Thought you would have had the scene where Chris calls Tony to wish him a Belated Happy Birthday and Tony just hangs up! lol
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Lol he was pissed that ep
Yep! I forgot about that too and idk why lol since i secretly love identifying w Tony sometimes when he's hella immature and mad lol
Great video...so on point...always hated that We didn't get to see Christopher at the height of the NY vs Jersey war at the end...he was a proven solider...Tonys and Christopher's relationship was unique...at times filled with admiration, yet at times,.volatile...btw...what is the music at the end...great choice...
“The child is grown and the dream is gone”
This comment has no balls
@@pennystocklocks very allegorical
Quasimodo predicted this
@@pennystocklocks hahahahaaa
@@Dolphin._. who did what?
This show was just written so damn well.... i may watch again
I always thought tony and Christopher had the closest and most complicated relationship it really was love hate Chris saw tony as a surrogate father the guy he's going to hell for and Chris was the only one Tony wanted to take over for him at one point the only one he trusted they had issues before but I always felt adriana was the turning point I don't know if Chris ever believed nothing happened then when he chose tony over her I don't think he felt tony ever appreciated what that cost him so his resentment of tony grew and as Chris got deeper into drugs tony couldn't trust him and begin to see him as a liability
Nailed it
You ever heard of a period? Sharp as a cue ball this one
Both you and cineranter uploaded at the same time. I gotta watch em both before the crank wears off.
I just realized Chris and his daughter lost their father in infancy.
Both because of some uncle, either Jun or Tony
I've always felt there was an element of mercy killing when Tony murdered Christopher, there's hate, of course, and he's a huge liability, but he's also nothing but a painful shell of himself. Maybe Tony rationalized he was putting Chris out of his misery
No...tony lo hizo para protegerse a el mismo de cualquier peligro que Moltisanti pudiera representar. Saludos querida.
Yes but like 5% mercy
i agree it was Easier to kill chris after the drugs reveal and seeing the childs carseat along with chris gurgling and spitting blood
It's murder lmao, like melfi implied, he isn't God
@@aduantas I totally agree. Tony's guilt toward his destruction of others is rare and far between, and also completely misguided. He feels guilty for passing on his " poisoned blood" on to his son, when the boy starts having panic attack and depression, which he had no control over, but rationalizes feels murder is something that needs to be done
Tony and Carmela were the biggest hypocrites on this show, Carmela blaming Tony for their son being depressed because of his breakup. When she acted the same way when furio went back to Italy!!!
youre getting a lot better, i felt like you just summarized but now youre really getting into it, good stuff
hell yeah needed this before heading to work lmao
IMO Tony never cared about Christopher. He pretended to care and to help him just as long as Christopher was helping his mafia ambitions and Chrissy was "kissing the ring". Once Tony realized Chris was an actual threat to him and his mafia empire, he got rid of him as ruthlessly as anyone else he has killed. He did not care Chrissy was dead and once it actually registered he was relieved that he had to no longer pretend to support someone who constantly screwed up and disappointed him in the end. Combine that with him no longer being able to turn on Tony and Tony almost became ecstatic to be out of that pressure when he took his trip to Las Vegas.
Its just a reminder Tony was the bad guy all along despite us pulling for him (you can't help but do that, cmon!). I do not think Tony was a total sociopath. Very close, but the fact that he cared for his children and he showed it and the weaknesses that brings proves there was some bit of him capable of feeling. That said he was severely damaged and Dr Melfie gave up on him (which honestly was understandable) just as I think he reached a point where he could be saved. Instead he killed Christopher and his transition as an unsalvageable character was completed. He sealed Chrissy's fate, but in turn sealed his own.
I think lil carmine not wanting to be boss he saw it as something chrissy would do. They worked on cleaved together
I think he cared about Chrissy, it's just that there's limits, and I don't think anyone can deny Chrissy overstayed his welcome a little bit. I also disagree that Tony wasn't a sociopath, because he was completely, what he isn't is a psychopath. The thing to note with sociopaths is they can feel, it's just all their emotions and the way they express them is all fucked up, almost like a perversion of humanity.
If you don't think Tony was a total sociopath by the end of the series then something of your analysis of the character is definitely wrong...
Agreed, Tony was just using him as his get out card and once he realised chrissy wasn’t up to that due to his addiction issues he took the first opportunity he had to clip him
I forget, did he kill chrissy before or after melfie cut him loose?
I agree with most of your comment other than thinking Melfie wasn't thinking for herself and was pretty harsh the way she let him go. Also unprofessional about it. Antagonizing him and everything.
Chrissys handling of the Triburo Towers situation should have made him a legend right then and there, but he came down with a unusually bad case of cowboy-itus and was never the same after
“salami sub, hold the Mayo” - “We’re out of Mayo” LOL 😂
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Mayonnaise...MAYONNAISE!!!!!!
Even in his dreams he's being disrespected 🤣🤣
@@jonsam4842 the funniest part about that dream is that’s how dreams really are, they make no fucking sense and you know it, yet still go along with it.
@@Tech215Studios it's only when we wake up we realize it was strange.
Good example of not mastering one’s own weakness , so the weakness masters him. Every one has a personal weakness he or she needs to master.
I thought the beginning of the end of their relationship occurred at the welcoming party for Furio (D-Girl episode, but I'm not a 100% percent sure.) When Tony gave Chris 10 minutes to decide on his future, that opened the door in Tony's mind that he could say goodbye to Chris and that he valued Chris more as an "employee" than a family member.
Fantastic deep dive into this topic!
Pretty sure their bond was broken when Tony, you know, killed him.
As a fan, I’m fascinated. So much related to the up coming movie. Cheers.
Fun fact. the cornicello has another name: cornutto/cornetto, which is when you make the shape of bulls horns with your hand (🤘) at another man. It means “you’re a cuckold” and is a very big no no in certain parts of Italy.
"poner los cuernos", or "cornudo" means the same in spanish.
The show started off so light and playful almost like a comedy to an extent but it got so dark towards the end and David chases choice to make the show visually darker was brilliant too
"Did you ever notice he's the only motherfucker who can smoke a cigarette in the rain with his hands tied behind his back? That nose is like a natural canopy."
Yesssss. Been waiting since I saw ur post about making this.
You left out Dickie being a junkie. Thats when Tony realizes that addiction really is a disease and Christopher will never be fully cured. That was the point of no return.
Pretty sure he did mention it.
@@the_local_bigamist not the part about realizing Dickie was a junkie.
Tony didn’t have to be suspicious of JT
if you recall he is great at reading people like he did with Barone at the diner - pretty much much a mind reader
That's not Dick Barone, it's Jack Massarone.
notice during the baptism hug how Cheistooher appeared to be smothered by Tony's shoulder?
Great video essay, as always.
I see the relationship between Christopher and Tony as one of a trauma bond between a narcissist and their main supply provider. Tony's personality once again acts like the black hole that sits at the centre of every narcissist and the closer Christopher gets to Tony the more immanent his destruction becomes, sadly it is only with the event horizon so far behind him that he realises he is being crushed by the singularity and smothered in the darkness and by then it is far too late ...the scene at the gas station after Adrianna confesses to him, would be the event horizon and after that Christopher goes through the five stages and acceptance of his fate for him is when he gets back on the gear, because he stops fighting the pull and goes with the current, may as well be high all the time if your life is misery and your fate is sealed.
It is also when Tony realises Christopher is bang on the brown that he accepts what he has been denying to himself, that, ultimately, Christopher hates him and that Christopher is, and always was, a liability that he should have dealt with in season one episode one, with all the bullshit surrounding his car and him coming in late. Tony also accepts, far too late, that family and business should never mix, because up until this point the family members he has been in business and even those within the business he loves as a family with have had to die or have tried to kill him or have betrayed him in some way unacceptable to his narcissistic personality. When Tony kills Christopher he has accepted the truth, from his own perspective at least.
a video about "the money" livia and uncle Jr always talked about would be good. Did it even exist?
The money, whatever happened there
"Did you wrap it correctly?"
This was phenomenal.
Chrissie’s nose is like a natural shinebox
He can smoke in the rain without getting his cigarette wet.
Correction, Chrissie's nose is a canopy
6:11 Greatest double take ever 😂
There wasn't ever much love from Tony towards Chris. He used Chris until there was nothing left but a shell of the man he used to be. The moment Tony became truly irredeemable was when he contributed his winning streak returning in the casinos to Chris dying.
A really big thing, was Tony Soprano, John Sacromoni, and Phil Leotardo each had their own Protege. Joey Peeps, Christopher Moltisanti, and Gerry Torciano. But each of those proteges died before their “mafia fathers”. John Sacrimoni loved Joey Peeps and was infuriated. Phil Leotardo, was heartbroken but didn’t do much about it, he killed Doc Santorou for personal insult. And Tony Soprano was gleeful he murdered Christopher.
Very interesting. Can not get enough of Sopranos!
The embrace at the christening reminds me of when Fredo hugs Michael after their mother's death , and Michael looks over at Al Neri, knowing that they were planning his death.
do u think there was purposeful foreshadowing of Christopher would die when he had his nose pressed against & smothered by Tony's shoulder during their Baptism hug?
This is your best video
Great review , I believe Tony saw in Christopher that AJ did not have .I think that's why Tony was so hurt when he found out Chris hated him
My favorite scene in the series is when Chris and Tony are arguing at a funeral. Tony gets upset when Chris says something like “I loved you.” Tony charges forward, grabs Chris and says “If you don’t love me anymore, then that breaks my heart but you WILL respect me.” It’s so intense.
I love the way you pronounce "Corny Cello" I've heard Cello's described in different ways throughout my life but I've *NEVER* heard of them described as "Corny" 🤣🤣🤣 that's funny¡!¡!
Tony would have absolutely banged Adriana.
Chris was right to be suspicious
Hows is that on tony , adriana is not to blame for being a smut
Oh wow Christopher is even wearing a hat in both scenes. I never put that together till right now.
What cracks me up is they make a big deal outta addicts and being on drugs (it's weak,etc) but then most seem addicted to gambling none consider that their "drug"
The vipers were the ones who ended Tony at Holsten’s for stealing the wine. Revenge is like serving cold cuts.
I also think tony not letting him kill Jackie junior was a major turning point in their relationship I think Chrissy telling him he doesn’t love him anymore really hurt the big man haha
This was a brilliant take on tony and Christopher's relationship.
"Entire notion of their friendship representing a father and son-in-law"
Great episode series analysis 👍🏾
Chrissy's death is the most significant moment in Ton'ys character development. You can't deny Tony has Anti-Social personality disorder after he kills Chrissy
Tony is a complete sociopath I don't think anyone can deny that, what's up for debate here though is if Tony ever really cared about Chrissy, and at least in my opinion, he did in his own twisted way.
@@bryanmejia4826 I feel up until Chrissy s death any viewer siding with Tony could easily explain away or justify his behavior. Chrissys death really showed what a jerk Tony is, that and the rest of season 6
thank you.i love this
My relationship with my former employer was similar. He was always "Uncle _____" as a kid, a longtime family friend, and because he only had daughters, he and I had a weird bond that turned into 19 years of being this guy's indentured $UDT/minimum wage slave to the point where both my attorney and his Worker's Comp attorney mutually agreed that it was a psych abuse case. It was a toxic relationship like Christopher's and Tony's, although it took a huge toll on all of us, I realize in hindsight how much he exploited and abused me. We needed each other, because I knew where everything was and how to fix it. He was a bag of shit like Tony in terms of being an asshole boss to deal with. He and his wife are total ingrates because I kept their shitty store alive while they got to be grandparents during their grand kiddies' cutest years. Instead it went down the way it did. They say "Don't work for family" for a reason. Lots of reasons in fact.
Man that sucks. I've had a good experience working for family myself. I'm glad you got out of it friend.
The mafia would really allow a member to make a mafia movie? Especially clearly based on his current mafia associates?
I'm not sure who it was that made the suggestion/decision to have the "Stage 5" episode end with "Evidently Chickentown" by John Cooper Clarke, but they seriously deserve the highest possible recognition for that decision. Maybe I'm biased, as some who comes from Manchester, England, like J C Clarke. But, as if The Sopranos weren't already enough of a masterpiece, using "Evidently Chickentown" makes the tension and bleakness so much more relatable to me. That dreary Manchester/Salford accent, the overuse of the word "bloody" (which is common for us, but brilliantly foreshadows Christopher's "end", as mentioned in the video), and the tinny, droning percussion always reminds me of being stood in the pissing rain on a dim, gray Manchester afternoon. Absolute masterpiece.
You should go onto Pure Kino and do a podcast with him. Like borko ...
Tony never had a brother. That animal Blundetto would have been there but he went away. On the other hand, he might have usurped Tony.
Can't say his name
@@johnjackman7946 he practically killed a baby, he was only 47 years old
@@EuropeanGameClub just a kid
>>On the other hand, he might have usurped Tony.
@@alexmuenster2102 Tony B was smarter & more charismatic. He would have stepped into Tony S spot had he not gotten busted. And Tony S knows it. Along with Sil & Paulie
Love your videos
When you have a protagonist and Deuteragonist like Tony and Christopher in the world of the Mafia and The Sopranos where you should never count on a happy ending I think there's 2 natural endings: The 1 we got in the car or pulling through all struggles and when the end is drawing near it's the if we go down we go down together deal. I completely understand how Tony and Christopher's story ended but despite everything, everytime Tony pauses briefly there's a huge part of me that wants to beg Tony to pull Chrissy out. I know the together to the end narrative is a bit corny for the Sopranos but that's how special these 2 characters are and how special their bond was for so long. I so wish there was alternate footage of Chrissy living at least until they go to the mattresses.
Would absolutely love to see you do a video on what if the Bond of Tony and Christopher survived through everything as it did for most of the series and Tony had his nethew and other son with him against New York. If you ever had any interest in that. I enjoy thinking about how that would have played out. Meadow for instance, will always be the thing Tony loves more than anything. If Tony had spared Chrissy even after the strains put on their bond and the monster Tony became if it happened that way would Christopher represent the one spark of goodness left in Tony's life as a Boss? The goodness we see much more of in the early seasons even when it's Omerta related.
A revenge fantasy is SPOT ON
Good job bro breaking all of it
Ah yes Christopher and Tony, Whatever happened there.
What happened there
We can add more to this w/ the Movie. Dickie's love of Tony and then abandoning him....Tony had a father who was a criminal...in and out of jail....a sociopath mother....a bitter uncle....Dickie was his father but then tried to ignore him (for the right reasons) before his death. Tony doesn't understand love because he never experienced it from his betters....and he did that to the ones that loved him.
Their relationship was never the same when Christopher questioned Tony about Jackie Jr. in season 3
I always give my honest opinion on your theories so I blow no smoke when saying your 100% calling this one. Good work
The 5 stages of grief are alsowhat Tony goes through as ne domes to terms with the fact that Chris hates hiim.
Music at the end?
Chris was Tony's exit strategy... Once tony figured out that Chris wouldn't make a good boss or father, he killed him.
I think T killed Chris because he finally accepted Chris was more of a liability to him than he was an asset
I think that Soprano killed Christopher because he was nuts, thinking that Christopher thought of him as only an "assh*** bully" who hates Soprano.
Christopher did have mixed feelings it was because Christopher thought that he, Christopher couldn't live up to his i.e. Soprano's expectations or ideal.
Soprano was tired of Christopher and his bs but there was no reason to off the guy at the time that he did.
Well done 👍🏼