The Judds Docuseries - Episode 2 - Hurricane Wynonna
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The 6 episode series, which premiered April 10, 2011, follows the duo on their final concert tour and explores their mother-daughter relationship.
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If you don't understand severe depression, be grateful 😢
The cruel comments need to stop. Naomi and Wynona are human. No one is perfect. She struggled w depression as many in the world do. People deal with it in different ways. Some feel there is no way out. Whatever she did or how she did it doesn’t matter. She was an incredibly talented woman. It’s sad she’s no longer on earth. Fly high w the angels Naomi.
Yes and who knows what was happening to Naomi, things we as the public will never know. Side effects of the meds and treatments she has had over the years, maybe cognitive changes etc. Comment sections often bring out ignorant people smh
Depression is a deadly disease. People don’t seem to understand this unless they have gone through it themselves.
Going through it.
@@terifarmer5066 From one empathic being to another, please keep fighting through it & live your best life.
🙏 to you.
I agree with you 100%.
You are 100% correct. And I wish there was a way to assure anyone going through it that you DO absolutely come through it all in time. Look for the lesson in it. Learn the lesson. Let go! BUT... when you're actually in the middle of going through it??? NONE of that stuff makes any sense! I just pray for anyone suffering. It's no fun 😞
$%%%%%g%%sa buwz,
Wynona does not realize how gifted she really is. Naomi could see it. So brilliant!
We’re so lucky to still have her perform for us!
We love you ,Leah white bird here in MN..Idont forget either .remember your ma at her best .she's with you .always darling
One thing about Southern gals, we are straight forward. what you see is what you get, Wynonna & Naomi will NOT sugar coat nothing. Love, Rest Beautiful Soul, you're safe in the hands of the lord.
"If it's not one thing it's your mother.“-Wynona
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kristykellytube yup
I love everything about these women and their story. The good. The bad. The Ugly. All a piece of our own story on some level. Thanks for sharing ladies! 🙏🏼⛑️🌱🎀✊
I saw Wynonna last night in Nashville with the Nashville Symphony and she rocked it. She could have a job just singing the blues. Girl you wore it out with the song At Last!!!!
Looking at some of these comments, I really question humanity. Rest in peace, Naomi. Prayers for your beautiful daughters and the rest of your family.
Childhood trauma follows a person through life. Depression can be as terminal as a physiological disease; the ending just often looks different and is so very traumatic. Hugs and love to Wynonna and Ashley. I understand the anguish and confusion of their loss.🙏🏻🥹💙 May Naomi rest easy.💔
I hear their music on country music radio everyday. Their music stays with you. Bravo!! What a "duo" they were.
Wy is the best female vocalist is country music today and forever. What a soul!
This was such a beautiful decision for these two talented women to share these episodes with the world. This inspires each of us for different reasons and whatever that is, these shows have been a blessing. My heart was sad to hear about Naomi, which makes these performances even more special.
Thanks for the honesty that takes place here, that in itself is the miracle! All of us need a ton of integrity in our lives back then and now.
Always loved these ladies and always will💜My thoughts and prayers are with Wynonna Ashley and their family God bless them🕊🙏💜
This is hard to watch after the news of her passing. God bless you Naomi your in a better place.
You would have never guessed with the way Naomi preformed that she was suffering so badly. I suffer from bipolar and anxiety. I feel so bad for her
I wish Naomi could have gotten through her childhood past so her future could have been brighter and better. I was S/A when I was 10 from my mothers boyfriend so I definitely get it but I’ve had to put it behind me and let that trash go. If Naomi could have done that and if Wy could have just let her mom be who she is then I think their relationship would have been so much better ♥️ Rest in paradise beautiful Naomi 😔💔🙏🏼
You don't think she or people like myself WANT to let go and move on? We CAN'T! Medications, therapists, pastors & prayers for DECADES and the flashbacks and night-terrors are just as severe as ever. I'm a 48 year old man, and forgiveness is a PROCESS, not a singular event.
@@raymondtittle2918 💯
@@raymondtittle2918 I am 53....CPTSD, PTSD and treatment Resistant depression...I have done everything...more than once. Everyday is a struggle
I’ve read and listened to her audio book. She tried. Doctors tried. Her depression was so severe treatment resisted.
I saw the fear and look in their final on stage performance. People said very cruel things about how her face looked, because of medication no less.
My honest opinion, she became anxiety ridden. Disassociated. Manic. I truly believe she had no clue what was about to happen.
I can’t even imagine going through it. But I’ve seen it. Physical presence but the person is completely gone.
Mom seems so happy to be back 😄
Daughter is STRESSED
I live with daily guilt of my childhood trauma and mental illness effecting me and spilling over onto how I raised my kids. As a parent I try to do the best I can. my adult children resent me and I understand why because I resented my parents for their up bringing boiling over onto how I was raised. point being no parent is perfect and neither are the children we raise. we just have to try to work harder to fix what has been broken and try to break the cycle of damage.
But you don’t broadcast on tv and videos… expecting “ poor you”… you try to live your life day to day with just each other… that’s the difference.
They were so blessed beyond! To have the money, land, a beautiful home & a FAMILY & EACH OTHER and yet gold wings is too much! Wy is so relatable & down to earth. My wish for her is JOY! To be able to enjoy her life that she has earned!
I recently heard of Ms. Judd’s passing. I immediately came here to view the whole “wardrobe” scene. Whatever the hell she does at approximately 35:27 is definitive Naomi Judd. Her spirit was never meant to reside here…she’s finally home with her creator. I’m grateful to have experienced her gifts. God bless her soul.
Was she still marry?
@@jennieclement2811 yes to her husband of 33 years. Watch the hurt and worried expressions on his face when Wynona is treating his wife and her mother so horribly. He didn't know what to do. It was one of the last times Naomi was with her daughter and she crushed her mother's already crushed spirit. A few days later she committed suicide. Nothing can hurt a mother like her own so called child. And Naomi was already dying and on meds for depression. Wynona knew this and talked to her and treated her like trash? She had already abandoned her mother for 10 years in rebellion and that's love? I'll pass on that kind of love. Well Naomi bowed to her every wish and then committed suicide.
@@katiefoster6624 this documentary is over ten years old
@@lc-bb6bd I know that. This was a LIFE time of rebellion and hitting her mother and cussing her out and treating her like trash. Now fast forward to the last time she was with her mother THIS year at a quick interview right before they were to go to their award ceremony. You could see Wynona mocking her and rolling her eyes at the audience behind her mothers back and making out like she had dementia (which she did not) and like she was crazy and she had that same chip on her shoulder she's always had. She knew her mother would see that interview OF COURSE. So a few days later Naomi was gone by suicide and never made it to her own award ceremony. Do you think that was a coincidence? Then fast foward to ONE day after Naomi was gone at the award ceremony. An actress relative got up there and did the crying then Wynona got up their and made fun of her mother again and was making everyone laugh then another guy got up there still laughing at what Wynona said and he said we have decided not to be sad but to have joy and we've BEEN having joy. Really? One day after her mother is gone she joking at her expense again and laughing and deciding to not be sad? Well it's pretty hard to pretend to love a mother she didn't isn't it? But she might just get that pretence going for more money for more attention and more spot light than she's ever had AGAIN at Naomis expense. She may or may not be able to pretend good enough no telling but a life time of things plus constantly fighting and hitting her mother when Wynona is big boned (you shouldn't hit your parent period) and then their last interview for the award ceremony and a day before the ceremony Naomi couldn't take the pain of her spirit being crushed anymore and ended her life here in this world and then Wynonas behaviour a day after Naomi was gone is very telling to say the least.
@@katiefoster6624 What are you talking about?
so sad now her Mom is gone and in part 1 she cried at the thought of her passing..love to the Judd family
That family was a nightmare. Yes, all the stuff, rip, so sad, but if you know anything about the cycle of childhood sexual abuse, you will know that this was never a happy family, and Naomi became a complete narcissist. This woman manipulated her daughters, to believe they couldn’t survive without their mother, so this, will be a nightmare for them. Even though it was never really true. When a parent implants such beliefs in their own children, in secret, showing a very different side to the outside world, the child begins to doubt themselves, so deeply, they can easily become as consumed by their own insecurity as the parent who groomed them to believe it to be true.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied how long did you know them personally?
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied Don't judge people. When I read things about famous families I wonder how my family or any families would appear to the world if cameras were around.
Wow - I truly had no idea how much stress Wy was under till now - i feel her - I lost both my grandparents who I was close to a year apart from each other - my grandma in late April 2022 and my grandpa the following late April 2023 and then this year my little sister began her first year at the United States Naval Academy - I am so happy for her but it’s tough not having her home - I remember taking my finals before winter break and on the last day right after finishing my last test (luckily it was at home) I started bawling !! I just had so much running through my mind during the test and was so overwhelmed- God is So Good but sometimes he really challenges you - so far I’ve made it to January 2024 so now I can do anything!!
I can't imagine being on a bus with them in the 80s.
sassy boy I would’ve loved sipping tea ☕️
Chicken Dumplins same
I started to listen to your story only now. I see myself and my daugters in you and your moms life's.
Your mom's hurt from her childhood I had that too.
You have memory's so big.
Use them as a learning curve. Big hugs for you.
This is mine and my daughters' story..minus the fame.
This year at 57 I've learned that my youngest daughter is ADHD, I'm Autistic, and my oldest daughter is most likely autistic as well..but been diagnosed BPD. Watching the emotional, complex relationships between these women is making me weep. I totally relate.
Wow.. sending you positive thoughts. Stay strong
I thought autistics didn't cry.
@@thomasmccaffrey264 Thank you. When a person can't communicate properly with the closest person to them..and no 'ill will' is intended..you need to look at what the barriers are. Autism answered EVERYTHING for us.
People are assuming Naomi was narcissistic and controlling with Wynonna..and perhaps she was most of her life..but I propose it wasn't due to narcissism. In most of these episodes you see WY nervous and high strung and ready to jump to defensiveness around Naomi..even though Naomi isn't intentionally trying to trigger her. She actually looks and acts cautious when WY is around. WY keeps saying how frustrated and hard for her it is. She's triggered easily.
So..What actually can be done if the person means no ill will...but gets 'shut down' every conversation because the recipient is sensitive and receives everything as negative? Is it up to the receiver to handle their own emotions and not project them back? I mean..if I tell you something that I see 'as truth' and mean no 'ill will', am I the bad guy if that is twisted into a negative by the receiver? If the receiver is a child then I believe it IS the responsibility of the adult to be aware of what being said could be perceived in a different way than what the intention is. But other adults? That seems unfair and breeds a person that 'walks on eggshells' because she is afraid of triggering others. It also forces you into defensiveness or shutdown because you become afraid to voice your opinions..even if they are out of goodwill..because you are constantly put down or assumed wrong or accused of things that just were not meant.
In the 2020 Christmas special Naomi seems broken, WY is the happiest I've ever seen her. I'm happy for WY...but it's heartbreaking 💔 😢
Me too ! I just found out I’m autistic at 36
@@hollyleann2.0 good for you! I'm ecstatic I found out! Cried for days! FINALLY understand WHY I don't fit in.
All my life..misunderstood. Now I have the tools to fix it. And FINALLY people are understanding and having empathy instead of constantly judging...its been a LONG road.
I was so nervous for them! All that build up... they lack confidence but they need not to. You both are amazingly gifted! Embrace your magnificent gifts and be well!
My God will it ever end?!? We’ve lost so many to depression. I suffer as well. Such a sad but poignant story. Trying to stay in the light is so damn hard!! I’m so sorry you got lost in the dark Naomi!! I pray you are at peace and in the loving arms of Jesus. Praying for your girls and husband!! 🙏💔💐💕
Naomi is quirky, extremely creative, and extremely intelligent (really, really smart) I just want Wynonna to appreciate her as an artist more. I know it's her mom, but her mom is also a person, an artist. Sometimes children don't appreciate that.
@BeyondEnchantment You don't know what you're talking about. Do your homework and get back to me. You GTFOH moron
Your so right.
God bless you Michelle Autore for standing up for the truth and for the weaker one. Keep shining bright.
It's not your drama, it's your voice that draws fans.
I love Wynonna voice she will heal slowly with her singing . And all her love for country music.
I love how Wy was so good at asking the three that were distracting her! Class and like a true leader. Same thing when she wanted to tell her mom she was off on the singing, “how do you want me to handle offering you the notes in the music” Excellent example on how to handle people.
I admire your bravery for wanting to reveal the past trauma. The only way you can control your life is knowing what your life has been and is now.
They both are extraordinary!
Thanks for posting. I admire both of these Judd's for being so brave to "bare their souls" and emotions for all to see, regardless of the judgments and negative opinions some others might have. This is a great "real" show to show all of us that we should at least "try.". Bravo to Naomi & Wynona Judd!
That is so true. Unless you have dealt with depression yourself you don't understand what people go through😏🤔
Wynonna, so beautiful! In spirit,character and soul. One of the most talented women around
Agreed! Gorgeous in every way!
❤️
Wynonna is also physically STUNNING!
A dude.
Thank You for Sharing this Series!
Rest in Peace Naomi,,I'm So sorry your let this world get to you in the worst way,, Heartbreaking 💔😢 to know She just couldn't see her Worth,,I Pray that She is in Heaven,, Amen
Love between a mother and daughter cannot be explained nor can it be understood! LOL
Sitting here bawling my eyes out . Binge watching the series 🥹🥹
Other comments, make me Sad... Unless you've LIVED in a family of secrets, betrayal, abuse.... you have nothing to say. There IS legitimate issues for Both. No Mother, Purposefully demeans their child... This IS healing as in, Yes... Wynonna WAS Naomi's whipping stick.... but, sometimes, life creates 'Compulsive Liars. from, "Constantly pretending things didn't happen" ... I'm Witnessing women (and some men), go through what Naomi went through, it is a Painful Awakening. AND, She IS showing less narcissism than 98% of Millennials... people who've Only HEARD of Abuses....
Billie Lemere You know 98% of millennials? No, you don’t. Your statement is totally without merit. Yes, mother’s DO purposely demean their children. They also abuse and neglect them: For all we know you’re one of them.
Abusers support one another. If they didn’t they’d be where they belong: In prison.
Billie Lemere yeah
@@tiffprendergast I never even noticed tge reply from a year ago. I don't bother with spite. I have a Very Happy son, with a good relationship. I hope for that for most. People need to read better. I didn't cliam to know 98% of millennials... but. Read how you are able/ or wish... I think, For Wynona, the nasty comments about Naomi, Are AS HARMFUL AS Anything Naomi Ever did... and, she HAS owned A Lot. I don't suppose I care what other's think of my comments. I hope these women see, I only wish the best for BOTH of them...
Billie Lemere Naomi is a narcissistic attention seeker. And a control freak. She is jealous of her daughter and constantly trying to upstage and belittle her. Not a normal mom. I’m surprised Wynonna hasn’t cut her out of her life. 💔🙏🏼
@BeyondEnchantment is it Boredom, that draws you to my replies? I don't Need your personal feelings, to validate mine. That's why it's an Opinion. And, attacking me, maliciously, Only Highlights, WHO You Are... Delusional- no- I believe in freedom of thought and speech. I don't think you're an idiot- I don't know you... but, Your Responses- Speak Volumes .. lol.. have a Wonderful Day!!
shout out to all those people who have to work with them! lol
Overcoming dysfunction isn't for the faint of heart. Initially very hard to watch gutwrenching struggle 😢. Between two music icons. As the story unfolds their trusted life coach take them back to the apt their darkest hours explosive poignant and bittersweet. Beautifully produced coproduced by Ashley Judd. Stick with it the ending is second to none.
I swear, this world didn't deserve Naomi Judd.
Such a free spirti. SO FUNNY! Just so eccentric and just so full of warmth and love.
God, I miss that woman!
I remember seeing them on this tour...was an experience of a lifetime!
There is no way I can justify judging these two women. As much as I love my mama I couldn't even imagine living on a tour bus with her.
I loved the dress with wings. So beautiful...
Naomi was dissociated quite alot. Im going through the change from being young and stupid with problems to isolating myself from the world until I absolutely have to stick myself in public around anyone. My bedroom is my box.
My safe place.
@@cindyblumenthal8315 yes ma'am!!!!
Very beautiful land. I see why she loved it so ❤
I met the Judds many times in the early 90's. (my friend knew them) They are very nice and love their fans. They are only human though and sometimes the stress of touring and stuff took it's toll on them. Try being famous and having everyone scrutinize your every move and every word. Those of you on here that are so critical of them, take a good look at yourself. Are you so flawless that under the same scrutiny you would come out shining? I imagine not. Most people insult others to make themselves feel better. A truly secure person does not have to diss anyone.
13 Fear Street I agree but these two just wallow in the bad times and the drama, they both have such good fortune, family, friends, health but yet they choose to be so unhappy.
Excuse me?! They *opened themselves up for scrutiny.* These people themselves-not you-invited the entire world into their lives. It’s not about “take a good look at yourself” at all. You missed the entire very overt, very obvious premise glaringly apparently to the rest of the world but once again, you missed it, the clarion call this time of “Reality TV” which is “Looka MEEEEEEE!” I don’t give a shit if you “met them” as their bidet-which would be the limits of your capabilities: No one appointed nor anointed you the arbiter of other’s opinions, experiences or morality. Take your self righteous crap and sit the hell down. You’ve just attempted to not at all covertly “diss” everyone else under the transparent guise of your own “goodness.” Busted.
You failed. Spectacularly.
@@tundrawomansays5067 I couldn't even attempt to convey those sentiments better! I know you can't see me, but right now I'm standing giving you a thunderous applause! Thank you! I almost believe it was Ashley that you addressed. It sure sounded like something she would say. Anyway, your speech was better than watching Julia Sugarbaker, because we know hers were scripted. Thanks again!
13 Fear Street awesome
HiAnn i yeah
I watched them all and glad they settled there differences and happy for them .
My heart just bleeds at all their "difficulties"
They are so blessed they just don't know it.
redheadedfreckles2 yes,they are blessed, but also human.
There are definite issues, we all have them.. However, when I listen to the Judds, it’s pure magic.
Saddened by the Passing of Naomi Judd the Power House Duo from the 80s will live on forever in the hearts of The Judds Fans the music and the legacy will not be silenced
RIP Naomi
They are so very lucky to have everything they have....I can't imagine having the house, the land, the farm/animals, the clothes...it's like a dream...if they could only just find a way to tolerate and love each other for who they are, and aren't...and just accept each other. Naomi is way too dramatic and self centered...Wy is too impatient and defensive stemming from her own insecurities. Wy you are beautiful, talented, and enough...just the way you are. Love yourself enough to let your Mother's drama go.....and just love her for being your Mom...
YaYa !
It's part of the act, dummy.
A true dream is not about stuff. It's about being happy and content with your true life.
I feel sorry for both of them. Naomi is very eccentric, talented yet trying to juggle everything when you can’t keep your mind straight. Abuse in any form is long lasting. I feel for Wynonna because I was so belittled growing up I had no where to turn. I was abused and it messed with my mind for years. Once my dad passed it was bitter sweet but the weight came off my shoulders literally I lost 100 lbs. I began healing over other wrongs that happened to several relatives. I am from Wisconsin so cool you were there! I wish you much healing.
As I watch, I'm getting a picture of Love and Hope, "Love Can Build A Bridge" has been a lifeline for me.... Now, it has a completely different meaning to it...
I can understand this mother daughter thing. I lived with my mother for 32 years until she died and we had that mother/daughter love/hate relationship. There were times my mother put me down/ controlled me and so forth and yet we had that strong bond that nobody could understand because of the fighting we did.
heavensnewestangel I think the 2 buses is too much
heavensnewestangel sorry
Wynona seems like she has stronger character than her mother. Naomi just can't stop playing the victim.
It happens sometimes people make that choice
I have a lot of respect for wynona. She is strong sincere and a survivor of of narcissist mother.
Maybe she's just suffered more than she allowed Winona to. Ever think of that?
She is so mean to her mother!
@@pinkypromise111 THANK YOU!
My heart goes to the Judd’s family.
All these ladies have been through things BUT, they are spoiled! You all that are trashing Naomi, she is the reason Wynona made it to the top! However, I love the person that is Wynona! She is someone I would love to hang out with!! She’s funny, talented, outspoken, and sweet! Love ALL these ladies…
Rest peacefully Ms Naomi...You will always be remembered forever .My thoughts and prayers are with Wynonna and Ashley and Mr Larry and all their family...God Bless
This is so hard to watch. I feel like her mother just got the last word..and feel guilty for thinking so.
I LOVE THE JUDDS + Wynonna music would truly be lacking greatness without your superb bluesy gift . You have touched so many people because you are
real, may God continue to bless you and yours ! Thank God you all share with the world your God given gifts, love you so much, Thank You, Thank You + from one of the millions of your fans around the world from denise - God Bless You +
Wynonna was ALWAYS the talent behind the Judds. Naomi is an excellent backup singer. It seems as though naomi harbors so much resentment. Wynnona will never be free of her mothers Narcissism. So sad. Love their music and miss them tons.
Well shes free now..
I see opposite. Wynonna is defensive no matter what Naomi does. Always criticizing her and complaining. But I guess thats what she was taught. Sad and complex Relationship.
@@lillypicadilly4048 i agree with you 100%.
Wynonna is the talent behind… Naomi wrote all the record breaking songs.
Why do they seem so spoiled and self involved? I understand childhood trauma, but they've achieved so much and have so many resourses that they have developed a dependancy on being broken and their diva realities.
Be winna sorry it is what SEVERE DEPRESSION and anxiety DISORDER is! No it's and buts nothing will us happy ok. Were sick MENTALLY ILL and help no one. PLEASE DON'T criticize MENTAL ILLNESS cuz most ppl don't know shit.
they are hard to watch.alot of pain.
Naomi was so dramatic.... she thrived on it ...she always had to have emotions out in front. I don't know how Wynonna stood it. I had an Aunt that was the same way. God's Speed Wynonna. Love you from another Wynona.
I love the Judd's music but I think Naomi's narcissus complex is the root of Winona's problems. Naomi has done so much damage, and still does.
rather knotty - I agree
It's painfully obvious.
rather knotty q
francine Jacobson , I would like, Just Once, to see Naomi Play in the Mudd, Pass Ball in the Yard..... she's so Stiff and worried about how she Looks....
I don't believe for a minute that Naomi got Hep C from an accidental needle stick. She's such an attention seeker plus Wynonna's father is different from Ashley's tells me Naomi has more than one skeleton in her closet. Wynonna is more normal that she thinks. She's one strong BADASS!
Wynonna is so overdramatic. I can't imagine how she reacted when her husband was caught. That would have been an incredible second season.
Truly
Did he cheat on her?
@@highjinx6519 No, he was a pedophile.
Pick your battles, ya know! If she wants wings let her! Life's too short.
Wynonna I think people are more fascinated with your music, than your personal problems!! You are amazing singers.
Funny you all blame Naomi but it was Wynonna asking her mother to tour again in 2000 and 2010 and 2015 and 2022. Wynonna treated her mom like dirt and maybe that helped cause her depression. Naomi was a gentle soul who did her best unlike Wynonna whose kid is in prison.
Wynonna, my hero! I have ALWAYS looked up to you. Beautiful, talented, amazing! I have absolutely lived your life, my mom and I have the exact same relationship. God bless you beautiful 💜
Naomi, like so many adult survivors of childhood sexual, never made peace with the little girl, who needed to be loved, protected, and taught, how to become an adult. So, she hid the child and the secret, for years, and so, no one could ever really know her. She resented this, of course, deeply, and had to repress this as well. She was trapped inside herself, as a result of having to retreat from abuse, as it was the only place she was safe. But the same survival techniques she used as a child, which likely saved her life, never work, as an adult. But it is all she knew, and her safety, became her prison. It isn’t natural for any human, to have to be so insular, to simply survive. Naturally, it creates an abnormal sense of self absorption and deprivation. Without ever feeling genuine empathy from the people who were supposed to protect her, as a child, when the adult finally opened up about the abuse, the desperate child, could be freed, and could also completely consume snd overwhelm the adult, with “needs” to fulfill, that can never be fulfilled for the adult, in the same way they needed so badly, as a child. While it is very important for the adult survivor to open up, entirely, as a means of understanding so much about their behavior, and connecting the dots to make sense of the things, that never made sense to them before, too many therapists make the mistake of forcing the adult to relive the trauma so often, that the survivor builds their entire identity on their childhood victimhood. It is the last possible thing they need. They actually need to grow up, develop an understanding of accountability, to separate the pain from the abuse of the past, from the present moment. It is very difficult for adult survivors to recognize natural boundaries, as a result of having had their own boundaries, so horrifically violated as a child. They need to relearn how to develop boundaries, and to focus on developing empathy. As you can see here, both women are self involved, self absorbed, and the people around them, are simply “props”, or “witnesses” to their perpetual suffering. Each one fights for attention. Dwelling on themselves and their emotions, to such an extent, they are oblivious to the way they alienate the people around them, never showing a genuine interest in anyone other than themselves. Trying to heal a childhood wound, with the kinds of things, that would have fulfilled a child, won’t work for an adult. Whoever has treated these women, therapeutically, has failed miserably. These women, needed to learn how to empathize with others, as empathy is the one, healthy way, we are naturally distracted enough from ourselves to maintain balance. This is actually the only way an adult can heal, from childhood abuse. Reliving one’s childhood, repeatedly, as an adult, will never work. It is destructive to others, and terribly narcissistic. These two are so self involved, they don’t have time to notice anyone else, which causes them to be inconsiderate and selfish. The constant acknowledgment of their own emotional instability, in interviews, to themselves, and eachother, constantly characterize if their tragic lives, and their contentious relationship, simply serve as a drug, providing instant gratification, like a junkie. It is a cycle of repeating the trauma, over and over, to the point that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. They surround themselves with passive people, who will put up with their crap, as they both project their drama, onto everyone around them, so selfishly and inexcusably.
This is really good, I agree. I have childhood trauma, but I went the other way into codependency and people pleasing behaviors. It also turns people away because I got enmeshed with their life and problems. Or I ended up resenting them. Boundaries are the key. I went no contact with my mother a few years ago and she still sends unwanted rage filled emails, letters and texts to my spouse. We are saving and documenting everything. Anyway, she is still trying to force that codependent thinking into me I just shake my head. Its an eye opener.
I was diagnosed with PTSD before I went no contact and was in therapy. I told her and her response was "you arent the only one". Meaning im not the only one with PTSD so how dare I get help and distance myself.
Beautifully said!!
You are very wise!
Thank you! This is the first time I have seen or heard of this show, and it is shockingly traumatic. The so called trauma and drama that *sells* this show stems from one fact: an inability to see outside of themselves, as you have thoroughly explained.
My heart is heavy for the loss they must embrace, now. However, seeing their relationship, based on this show, and the constant bickering about serious “first-world,” or Western problems is really really sad to watch. Honestly, I think most of the internal pain both of these LADIES exhibited could and should have been worked out yearsssss ago. But the horrific power of fame, wealth, and celebrity blocked the true forms of proper counseling and therapy both of these woman should have received long before they hit the road, or even after they hit the road, especially when the early signs of relational toxicity started to surface, in my opinion.
Well said. I noticed right away that these two women were very narcissistic and that unfortunate characteristic the both of them share is what prevented them from coming together in a healthy relationship. Very sad.
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Naomi seems to trying upstage her daughter at every step.
It’s like she can’t bear not being the centre of attention.
Exact same thought.
I see that too
I know. I always thought Wynona could have made it on her own as a solo act. When she finished high school, Naomi could have helped her get into the business.
Absolutely.
It was apparent during their performance, Naomi was prancing and preening while her daughter sang lead vocals. Wynonna is the one with the voice and the true talent of the duo.
She chooses THIS time to unleash these memories onto Wynonna....REALLY?!?
Sadly she pulled the ultimate.....act.
@@K_DZ236 it is very sad and I completely understand what you said, I hope Wy is doing fine and the family, May Naomi Rest In Peace
I hardly think any of us can understand their dynamic… this kind of relationship may be tough for them but you can also see they are deeply loyal.
Wow, Ashley looks like Naomi when she was young.
May you now rest in peace. ❤🙏🏽
My condolences to the Jud family God bless them.
I just started watching this I would see Ashley on t.v. with her interviews I just didn't keep up this mom is definitely at peace now . Wy is just singing along because she loves to be on stage .😊🎼
I love how they always steal smiley glances at each other when on stage, the love is there ❤
God will keep them safe and together for Eternity 💋🙏🏼💖
Wy you are such an inspiration to me, I have admired you and your music ever since I was a little girl. I went to 1 of your concerts at the big sandy superstore arena in Huntington W.Va!! I was so mesmerized. You are my role model! I would love to meet u again! Just know that your hometown loves you here in Ashland, Ky!!! Love everything about you momma! You are amazing!! Keep bein you! So much love for you here in Ashland KY!!!😘 From Brooke Maynard Wilson
Brooke Wilson same
Thanks for listening to my music i really appreciate you
Wynona looks and acts life elvis presley
Wow nice to see I wasn't the only one who thought that. ❤
@@Isaiah-fh5fi yes yes yes. Me too
@@vickiatkins9061 😁🤙🏻❤
Wow now that you mention it, I definitely see it, and Lisa Marie similarity.
Wouldnt that be something to find out she is related. You know her mother knew elvis!
Naomi was one of the most beautiful ladies who ever lived. WY leaving her sick mother on the front porch in the cold..was mean. NAOMI kept a scrapbook of WY’S success. No matter what NAOMI does..all I hear is criticism from WY.
You might be right, but mother daughter relationships are extremely complex and we don't know why her defenses were so high. In any case, now that her mother has commit suicide I don't think it's our place to judge either of them. There's a whole different level of healing that needs to take place
Seems like mom always tryst to outdo her daughter. I also think there is resentment for Wynonas father who she never knew
Sometimes when a woman is resentful toward her daughters father, she can show that toward the daughter. Ive seen it, and its not a good thing.
Wynona is a difficult daughter to have .
@@sharoncrawford3042 so true!
You are one of the rare people, to see through Naomi. I’m not suggesting she was evil, or always intentionally cruel, but I think she was very good at hiding the part of her, that groomed her own daughter into developing an unhealthy sense of obligation and “devotion”, by planting key seeds, at key times, so nuanced, as be nearly untraceable as a means of preventing her from ever feeling confident, or free enough to leave, and live her own life. This is the main responsibility of a parent, to teach the child through guidance, nurturing, and discipline to become independent enough, to be successful on their own. The child often chooses to return to a nest, as an adult, by choice, if the nest was ever a truly loving and selfless place. Naomi had hepatitis C, which is only fatal if left untreated, otherwise it is a very common, treatable, chronic illness. Why no one ever dared to question this, was and is beyond me.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied Back in the 80's and early 90's, Hep C WAS fatal. Even in 1995, after completing interferon and being cured, not everyone had access to the medication. Naomi's husband flew to NJ to obtain it. It was likely not covered by insurance at the time, and very expensive. Both of my parents went through interferon treatment in the early 2000's. They were both cured, but it was like undergoing chemo. Now, they have pills, with an even higher success rate. Naomi claims she was stuck with a Hep C infected needle, as a nurse. That seems unlikely to me. It likely resulted from sexual transmission, but she probably didn't want to admit that. Be well & blessed.
I always got along good with my mom. We were alot alike. Im 63. My mom passed in 2007. I really miss her. Im not really close with my dad. Hes alot different then my mom. Hes in a nursing home now with dementia and cancer. Dont think he will be around much longer.
You’re right, Wynonna, you are the boss!!! You are the talent and you’re beautiful 😍
Seems like Wynonna was the difficult Diva who had to always get her own way while her beautiful mom would bend.
U have zero clue. Wy gave in on most things when they 1st toured. When she went solo she let her mama get one more run. Difficult mother daughter things
No, Naomi was a terrible mother. All 3 of them has admitted this.
Just an observation, Naomi will always be the victim. I think she has always acted out, and Wynonna reacts to her actions. I truly understand about her childhood, etc., but she cannot let Wy have her own place in the world - without trying to outshine her. No wonder there was resentment.
I knew them before they got discovered and both of them were sweet and nice to me .I think is the boss though .
What do you think now?
@@graceshoenberg1205 Naomi still played the victim, up until her death. She never found her true healing, sadly.
@@variousJnames I've heard suicide is a very selfish thing. I've heard suicide is just somebody trying to get out of the pain. But one thing I think for sure. Winona will take this the hardest.
@@variousJnames she was a victim. She had a cruel mother, she was sexually molested at 3 yrs old, and she was a struggling single parent. When one is victimized in their youth they have an overwhelming need to keep control out of fear or they become addicts and loose everything . It’s really easy to give up . She decided to take control. I give her kudos for addressing her demons. One never truly recovers. She did the best she could. I hate these mean comments. I’ve never heard anything negative about Wynona or Naomi. Wynona’s daughter went to prison. That does not make her a bad mother. Life is complicated. Blessings to the Judd family at this difficult time.
Naomi pretending to be a fan in the audience...🤣🤣🤣
they have to use child psychology and placating to get her to go along with things.
It has nothing to do w/ music for her and Wynonna has forgotten what a simple day of work is, you would think she is going to Iraq instead of being blessed to have a major staff and be a performer.
It doesn’t take much to aggravate WY. SHE CRITICIZED EVERYTHING NAOMI DOES! Who cares if NAOMI wears what she wants! Naomi is a grown adult. She should be able to wear what she wants. Naomi has a light hearted humor that I love. All I hear WY do…is grumble and complain
I agree. .No matter what she didn't like she should have respected Naomi ..That was her Mother no matter
As a performer, certain patterns, additions and designs of an elaborate outfit can catch the light and act as an unnecessary distraction to your fellow performer. It's about mutual respect and consideration for the TEAM. No one person should 'outshine' the other. It really is common etiquette.
She was in her mid 60’s. She didn’t have to work. NAOMI went because she loved her daughter. Wy is so stubborn and seems self centered. Naomi is so soft spoken with a huge heart. It was too easy to run all over beautiful NAOMI. I love how feminine NAOMI is
@Sherri Dillon Considering Naomi was a selfish vindictive liar, it's easy for normal people to understand why Wynonna would be a little irritated. Naomi kept the secret of Wy's true father from her daughter for 29 years while everyone else they worked with knew.
@@variousJnames - I guess I’m not normal. I loved NAOMI. Rip sweet Angel
@@sherridillon2767 okay *SHERRI*
Naomi never ever seems to get over her past and dwells on it to the brink of insanity....
It's for the show
@@maxgxl4everyone Well she just committed suicide, but yeah it was "for the show."
@@mantra24 All the talking about it was.. I'm sure she didn't walk around in everyday life, talking about it constantly
The trauma of not being protected by an adult family member then abandoned by family does damage that is hard to manage. Its real, it effects your daily life and drugs dont fix that. A truly experienced psychologist and support system does.
@@Jess-kn8vl not when you have treatment Resistant depression
Naomi was so lucky to have a beautiful talented daughter she could make a living off of. WOW. God Bless you Wynonna!
Omg I can't believe I am watching this...you whispered in the background in a dress...it was always daughters voice that carried every song
Naomi had her demons and hardships.. but at the end of the day she was a good mother and nothing can take that away! Wynonna and Ashley love their mother and no one can say different!
I love The Judy's, but omg, all the DRAMA. Its like they thrive on it!!!