Yeah fr that and, he was literally one of the only ones there for doc when he needed it when he had no one to play w Z was there 4 years.. I feel like Z feels betrayed and lied too man… such a shity situation all around
Only problem for me with what Ninja is saying here is - You can't use Midnight Society to make a 100% proof of anything - They are not investigators, they are not lawyers, they are not judges.. Just a gaming company!
Well nothing illegal might have happened - But the morality in it is so wrong - And DOC has to own that shit and take the big fat slap that he is getting.. But using Midnight Society - A gaming company as your "go-to" to prove anything is just completely stupid and naive!
@@CPTM1you are married why are u messaging a minor 💯 point blank period it’s not about right or wrong💯YOU ARE A PUBLIC FIGURE AND HAVE AN IMAGE TO UPHOLD, HAVING ALLEGATIONS OF SEXTING A MINOR IS A MAJOR ISSUE 💯 and I have a daughter so I would 100 percent put him in a fucking Body bag that shit shows what kind of person he is and if he didn’t get caught u don’t know wtf he would have done 💯
Ofc all of thise big streamers crying about it has comon, the diffrence is they probably were not stupid enough to use thire main acounts and do it in twitch whipsers💀💀💀
@@ccramitsoliciting a minor is a crime, the police said he did not comma crime. Also knowing they are a minor and someone posing as an adult are completely different. Yeah he messed up and it wasn’t the first time he did that in 2017, but twitch paid him out and lost in a lawsuit.
Doesnt mean he is inappropriate and attracted to minors. Ninja is an entertainer for fortnite, a kid game. Doc was inappropriately texting a minor KNOWING it. Also ninja is correct about the settlement. Settlement means i will buy my innocence.
@@wondering_hand0985 ok and this chick is 17 that Doc messaged. Since when is it worse to send messages than to act upon your urges in front of everyone?
Why do politicians get away with stuff that you would incriminate a normal person for. Drake has a whole lot of power and a lot more influential than doc.
Damn it's seems like every game I play GTA or cod it seems like theirs always that I yter who destroyed their career God bless it this is absolutely crazy
@@AncientEvilSaiyan Even if he's walling, this is not that. We're talking real life shit ... Not videogame "cheaters". Zlaner is human and is clearly devastated
@@marcoss831 bro I know that. Plus Doc was the one who put Z in the spotlight and boosted his career. But it's just really sad seeing Z's response in raw emotion like this. Tim and Nick just did a quick shirtless response. Z's was very personal and intimate
Ninja knows fuck all, no one has done any research, the problem is everyone’s too scared to be cancelled by association that they’ll jump ship regardless
Heres what my research has gotten me. According to leaked emails from Twitch, the girl was 17, which Is age of consent literally everywhere. They also claimed nothing was overtly sexual, but they were "flirting." They emails from 2020 also claim there was no plan to meet up, so i think that part was a lie. If that's the case, I truly dont give af. It's between him and his family. If we don't like the age of consent laws, we need to change them. I think Twitch buried it because you needed to be 18 or older to use Twitch whispers unless a parent is present. And this 17 year old was breaking their TOS and flirt messaging their biggest streamer. In my mind, no difference between 17 and 18, and all the moral high ground takers 100% have watched 18 years olds in porn for years 😂
@@aaronkamakaze2967 No there is a specific line where the minor in question says they are a minor and Doc says that it doesn't matter to him. I know we are all fans. But we can't fangirl on serious stuff like this.
Ninja saying it’s a no brainer is pretty ironic. Dude has no idea. Midnight society, or any company would not want to be associated with someone who has allegations like that under their belt. They didn’t find anything. They just do not want to be with him, incase the situation gets worse. Now, Doc admitting that he has text with someone underage is a literal self confession. Also, there is a problem that needs to be addressed and that is minors faking their ages online and talking to adults. Imagine talking to someone you thought was of age, just to find out they weren’t. That could negatively impact that adults life. Any minor that fakes their age online needs to be prosecuted. Yet, noooooo. Nobody does that. Yall just let yall kids run wild on the internet. I would never stick a phone in my kids face, so they can be distracted. Be a good parent or don’t have a kid. Simple as that.
@@joemclocklin8651 Lmao is that in the dictionary? It’s slang term. Not a real word. I think you need to think and read what I said before you make a ridiculous statement. 😭 PS. You obviously are clueless
Z man... drippin in heat was my home and outlet for so many years (especially during lockdown) since you and doc started streaming together. To think it all just ended in a few days out of nowhere in such a dark way
As a 16 year old who has a best friend who messed up like this, and is still friends with this person, I respect Z's statement. Although my best friend was lied to by this person who lied saying they were of age and weren't doesn't make it my friend's fault, but with Doc it's probably different. I will say this, at least Z doesn't flat out betray him, he sees hope for Doc that he might change, in a way he's saying if Doc doesn't change, then he will leave Doc. I will say that even though Midnight has "seen" enough evidence to terminate their contract with Doc does point to some evidence, but we as the public should see, people shouldn't just believe everything they hear, for all we know someone could be plotting against Doc and used some third party software to change texting photos to make it look like he said something, I don't know, but without actual evidence I'm non-bias, because Doc is my favorite streamer and I believe we all make mistakes, no one is perfect. Media is the one thing takes someone who isn't perfect and destroys them for not being an angel.
I like that instead of saying "messing with a minor is completely wrong because child should be protected they are our future." Bro straight starts with "well it's illegal" 💀💀💀
Ninja is that guy at work that makes a statement starting why hes going to make a statement, gives an outline and even recaps why he made a statement. Just fkn spit it out
yup, normally deflecting this whole thing by making up a trans predator in their minds and blabbering about it. dr d admitted to it, he did that stuff. guess they're just mad one of their own got caught
Because i see a lot of comments from "sheep" saying "about minors" and copying/pasting/repeating the fck out of their miserable lives, all i have to say is that: - You will never know what this guy deals with so you cannot tell what the hell happened the last 3-4 years (in his deals) that make them "reveal" something from this guy's past (AND whether if it is true AND you'll never know the circumstance of that event (if indeed happened) ) - If he indeed did something bad, there is always room for forgiveness (this is what Jez Christ says too) Because, ... you know what ... YOU may be in his place in the future when the ones you make deals with may hold something "disgusting" of you to reveal to the public's rage ! So people ("sheep") BE WISE when it comes to judge ANYONE online (or offline) !
It’s so ironic you’re calling people sheep, when you’ve fully bought into the Jesus thing. He ADMITTED to inappropriately messaging minors. Case closed.
Why did none of these streamers question it all them years ago when the biggest streamer on twitch is all of a sudden dropped yet none of his pals asked why? It doesn’t add up
The thing I hate is when ppl say he is canceled or “Cancel Culture”. Ya ! You are Canceled because if for example you are on a sex offender list and a job does a background check “YOU AINT GETTING THAT JOB!”
Doc did not know she was a minor Until AFTER he was banned suddenly and sued Twitch for breach of contract. How do we know this? Because when he sued Twitch, they were forced to settle as there was no illegal activity found after a full investigation by law enforcement. (Not to mention whispers is an 18+ only feature.) A new report tweeted out Sunday just confirmed that the initial drama started years ago when a few rogue Twitch employees started reading Docs tweets and then reported him to an agency. Initially Doc didn't know why he was banned, then he found out, then sued. But years after, under NDA, he was not allowed to get into it, only used the nickname "Purple Snakes" to describe Twitch.
Period no grown man as an adult should ever even being in contact with a minor, regardless of it being sexual or not, unless of course they are blood family but I don’t find it ok that a grown man ever had private messages with young girls or boys it’s completely not ok and so wrong in so many ways. This man and the rest of the team has saved my life in the year of 2020 actually. The death of my infant newborn son, he was a stillborn absolutely devastated my life and put me in a very and horriable dark place. The boys and the streams, the love, fun, exciting experiences with each other and the laughter brought so much joy into my heart and really did keep me alive and believe me, I was on the verge of taking my own life. This news is just put me in shock and even in tears cause I can not support this, I can not support a grown man even messaging a child that they don’t even know, and isn’t family. It’s heartbreaking cause the whole team saved my life including Z, Tim, Nick, cloak and doc and this just is mind blowing and I have no other words to say about this except what in the actual fuck!
It’s crazy to me, how everyone can turn their backs on doc without knowing what happened. What actually was said by who. We live in a world where, men dressed in woman’s underwear dancing in front of actual children, (not a young adult) is not seen as inappropriate. We know nothing illegal happened and twitch, with all their money couldn’t prevent having to pay doc out. I’m going to need more information before I turn my back on him, over a 17 year old egirl (pokimane, belle delphine) who most likely twerks on stream for donos. As if a 17 year old American egirl is the epitome of innocence 😂😂😂 I’m definitely not letting a bunch of band wagoneers or Cody Connor’s mulvaney decide for me. If we find out he said some f’ed up stuff to this young adult, than I’m out. He would never been able to show his face again if we find that out anyway. But we just don’t know what was said.
And the fact if she was a couple months older(18) then suddenly it was ok?? Like come on.. We need to see what was said! But the damage is all ready done man.. Its crazy how fast people call him horrible names and shit. We need more evidence to conclude a just opinion. It didn't even come from the young adult in question.. It came from some ex employee or something!
@@Mr--Hexactly, everyone is trusting the word of a disgruntled mouth breather, ex twitch employee, and turning their backs on doc. Meanwhile, nobody knows anything (unless I’ve missed something) we don’t know if she messaged him first and for what reason? We literally know nothing. Docs statement is being viewed as an admission of pdfla. Z, Tim, nick, just flaked on him without knowing anything. Or maybe know something we don’t, but they aren’t hinting that?
Without knowing what happened? The ex-Twitch employee confirmed it, Doc himself confirmed it, and there was also confirmation that Doc didn’t know the minor was a minor beforehand. What else do we need?
Why does ninja seem happy about this??? If anything was illegal..he would’ve been charged. A settlement and pay out in full…means they didn’t want to risk being sued for wrongful termination or something.
It’s crazy that it’s in the air with no proof. There’s her side of the story there his side of the story and there’s the TRUTH. WAIT FOR THE TRUTH BEFORE YOU JUDGE.
@@ανσιι-δ6ξyes he did. He tweeted a statement that had something along the lines that it was with a minor, but nothing illegal happened. Then he edited it out but you can check edits lol
I wonder what D said in order for Z to have kept playing games with him after the whole situation. You know there had to be some type of dialogue about it. And there’s no way D was just like “I did absolutely nothing wrong, idk why they banned me”
Z was obviously given an ultimatum. Release a video to say you are done with Doc or we will cancel your sponsorships. Turn your back on the person who catapulted your name with no evidence of a crime.
@@santanacorr3880 i have no idea. but i know Drake inappropriately interacted with a "minor". Doc was apparently investigated by authorities and no wrongdoing was found.
@@robin3 some things don’t have to be illegal to be morally depraved and unacceptable. filming people uriante in a public bathroom is one of those things. cheating on your wife is one of those things. having inappropriate conversations with a high school student at the age of 36, is one of those things. if you can’t see that then you need to seek god in your life.
I'm always chocked by people giving up on their friends and family. Yes, what he did is without question disgusting. But he my best friend did that, I would not give up on him. I would help him go through this dark place. His life is not over. He's not dead. He's gonna face justice, I will not forgive, but I will forget so I can be a good friend.
The stupid part is them saying "i cant condone that" "its bad full stop" "talking to minors is wrong" etc thats all essentially, just hypotheticals. all that does is adds a layer of legitimacy to nothing more than a fuckin phrase, people hear that and make their own decisions on what happened, when no evidence of Docs wrongdoing has even been shown... People these days are more concerned with "appearing" to be correct, ie political correctness and taking the moral highground and condemning things, that theres no proof of, in order to make themselves look like saints. Truely fuckin bizarre how the court of public opinion works. It only seems to work when the stupid people have a say tho, which says alot.
He literally admitted to messaging a minor inappropriately. Doc doesn't need you to make up a false narrative for him, he already admitted to it. I loved watching Doc as much as anyone else, but if you can't discern right from wrong like even Doc himself can, you need to take a good hard look at yourself.
Loved watching doc, read his book, but he's in the wrong here. I'm not anxious to throw stones at him or anyone, but I refuse to turn a blind eye. I can't believe people are still trying to defend him. He's admitted to wrongdoing. He shouldn't be in jail, but he should be shamed. I am certain there are many others just as guilty on each platform and my response would be the same to all of them.
@@VBlongnekk you saying that he said something specific that hasnt even been shown yet is exactly what im talkin about. He did not say "i inappropriately msgd a minor" (because who tf would openly say that?!) and you wont be able to find that he did, because it doesn't exist lol. So who is making up false narratives? And you have the cheek to say all that in public view lol what a t ar d
I never liked Ninja just because i was a little older when he blew up and his audience is mostly children. But I really respect his take along with what he was saying about being a leader in the community and just being a good person in general is not hard. Just being decent makes you less evil than a TON of people. Decent, regular adults don't talk to minors.
Settlements do not mean guilt. It definitely can, but there are times where someone who is very public would want to settle a case quick in order to avoid defamation.
The company let him go just to save face, they both agreed on it to try and salvage what’s left of the game and money invested. But doc will definitely receive royalties off of game upon sales made.
@@JonahMV said every groomer on the internet bro lol. Man literally admitted to talking to a minor on twitter then edited that same tweet later on not realizing you can look at the tweet unedited. Next thing he is gonna say is "i was in a dark place" or "my mental health was bad at the time"
All the snakes jumo from out the grass, would be beautiful if doc turns it around with some solid proof, Ninja, always was jealous of the doc. Now he takes his chance.
Minor being 17 is wild. Whole streaming community dying over an e-girl 😂😂😂 would love to see the messages and just see how “bad” they got. People are so cringe.
Brotha 17 or not he has a whole wife and kid. And his kid is a girl. She’s going to have friends. Do you not see how this is bad? Do you need crayons ?
He literally said so in his tweet that he's edited 50x. There's no confusion there, Doc said himself they were a minor and the messaging leaned inappropriate. Y'all need to check the facts.
@@Blastfurnace2kand that could just as easily mean she messaged him asking to hot tub together, which would be inappropriate for a grown man to accept and they never met.
They’re all saying this because the big bad wolf at the top of the streaming chain will ban, shadowban, shame and monetarily impact everyone that stays silent about it. If I was Docs friend - and a streamer - I wouldn’t have said shit besides “I support him.”
Wild.. absolutely wild to see so many "friends" drop out of the lobby so quick...based on a vague tweet and no solid evidence of anything. Looks like some possible information has come out that may benefit Doc but the damage is done by all these so-called streamers that couldn't back the dude that put them all on. Damn.
I dont know but something seems not right... if the messages were that bad why no charge against DrDisrespect? Why no authoritys involved? Why does Twitch pay him out his hole contract?
Heres what my research has gotten me. According to leaked emails from Twitch, the girl was 17, which Is age of consent literally everywhere. So it's not illegal at all. 16 is the age of consent in most states and almost every country. People don't know this, and think it's 18, that's false. The emails also claimed nothing was overtly sexual, but they were "flirting." The emails from 2020 also claim there was no plan to meet up, so i think that part was a lie. If that's the case, I truly dont give af. It's between him and his family. If we don't like the age of consent laws, we need to change them. I think Twitch buried it because you needed to be 18 or older to use Twitch whispers unless a parent is present. And this 17 year old was breaking their TOS and flirt messaging their biggest streamer. In my mind, no difference between 17 and 18, and all the moral high ground takers 100% have watched 18 years olds in porn for years 😂
Brother, it's simple. Twitch found these messages via illegal means, an employee was snooping through docs private messages which is highly frowned upon and against their contracts/,terms of service. With that being said, any information that was found was found via illegal means and therefore useless in court. On top of that, doc didn't do anything ILLEGAL, just extremely immoral and 100% calls for cancelation at the least.
@csrmar13 he already did all he could do, and he should be thrilled that he got his 20m or whatever and another 4 years of free money streaming on TH-cam before shit hit the fan. Let's be real, what he did was a piece of shit move and he didn't deserve our support and hard earned money for all these years
Couldn't that company letting him go just be PR? Like, that's basically all TH-cam was doing. "It's gonna hurt us to be associated with someone who's being accused of these things." Whether someone actually did it doesn't matter to these guys, it's just a matter of reputation.
Out of everyone you really have to feel for Z… it’s fucked up smh …
For real you could see his emotion.
Yeah fr that and, he was literally one of the only ones there for doc when he needed it when he had no one to play w Z was there 4 years.. I feel like Z feels betrayed and lied too man… such a shity situation all around
@@dubbs2300 think about it abit slower and youll realise everyone is being lied to, but not by who you think.
YEah he such a good actor that Z Laner
@@Saltydog396 you ain't funny nor are you cute
Only problem for me with what Ninja is saying here is - You can't use Midnight Society to make a 100% proof of anything - They are not investigators, they are not lawyers, they are not judges.. Just a gaming company!
And yet a court has found no wrong doing against Doc
Well nothing illegal might have happened - But the morality in it is so wrong - And DOC has to own that shit and take the big fat slap that he is getting..
But using Midnight Society - A gaming company as your "go-to" to prove anything is just completely stupid and naive!
@@CPTM1you are married why are u messaging a minor 💯 point blank period it’s not about right or wrong💯YOU ARE A PUBLIC FIGURE AND HAVE AN IMAGE TO UPHOLD, HAVING ALLEGATIONS OF SEXTING A MINOR IS A MAJOR ISSUE 💯 and I have a daughter so I would 100 percent put him in a fucking Body bag that shit shows what kind of person he is and if he didn’t get caught u don’t know wtf he would have done 💯
@@snapkungenMorality? So, talking to people is immoral now? There was nothing about Doc's messages that was classified as sexual, end.
They found a way to kick doc out and take his cut for themselves
Damn Z is really hurt
They all are heartbroken. This is someone they don't know
It happens when you are a Beta.
He’s devastated.. probably turned down so many deals to stay loyal to a .. now he can go to twitch and make bank.
@@mustus71 holy hell! I didn't even think of that, you are right !!
His the only one who took it hard yayayayayayayayaya.
Who even gives a fuck what ninja says 😂
No one
Ummm, you do?
He ain’t even do anything you are literally named JESWEATSHIRT
Crinja
People like you will never go far in life.
To be honest it sounds kinda impossible that Ninja has never talked to a minor.
Talking to minors and trying to solicit minors are two totally different things.
Ofc all of thise big streamers crying about it has comon, the diffrence is they probably were not stupid enough to use thire main acounts and do it in twitch whipsers💀💀💀
💯
Nah ninja is a solid dude.
@@ccramitsoliciting a minor is a crime, the police said he did not comma crime. Also knowing they are a minor and someone posing as an adult are completely different. Yeah he messed up and it wasn’t the first time he did that in 2017, but twitch paid him out and lost in a lawsuit.
Z is THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS IT!
Or at least visibly. Ninja and Tim might be devastated now, also.
Z also turned down a lot of money via twitch contract for doc this hurts z because z genuinely loves being around doc
This shit is gonna blow over.
@@peacefulbeast8386Not only is it going to blow over it’ll come out that Doc was set up which is why twitch paid him. It’s all bullshit.
Tim, Z, and Summit were all bummed. Others really didn’t care other than Nic
Ninja lives off minors lmao.
he lives off entertainment. and if minors are the majority of his supporters sdo be it, he does not live off of them xD werido
Doesnt mean he is inappropriate and attracted to minors. Ninja is an entertainer for fortnite, a kid game. Doc was inappropriately texting a minor KNOWING it. Also ninja is correct about the settlement. Settlement means i will buy my innocence.
The difference he doesn't try to sleep with them 😂😂
Ninjathetattman
@@Titans17-0just wait
I feel so bad for Z.
Same! Everyone's devastated, but Z!...😭😭 my heart goes out to him!
@Pyxlmynd Z looked up to him bro, it's heartbreaking.
Same.
And he's going through a "family issue" right now which he hasn't disclosed. It must be piling up on him. I hope he's ok
@toxicgracie3772 damn, I didn't even know that, hoping his family get through it 😔
“Don’t text minors” 90% of their fan base is minors.🤣🤣🤣
lol he shouldn’t allow miners to watch his streams
@@Dill_dough20 Miners is fine but Minors in the other hand....
@@DjAether8 wtf da difference
@@Dill_dough20 learn the difference buddy.
@@Dill_dough20… wouldn’t expect someone with a username like yours to know the difference
Why ain’t drake getting banned from anything he’s even worse
Bro I was thinking the same shit dude has a video making out with a 17 year old he was like 24 at the time or something
@@ElijahDaYung0g23 and that isn’t a crime she is the age of consent which she consented to the kiss
@@wondering_hand0985 ok and this chick is 17 that Doc messaged. Since when is it worse to send messages than to act upon your urges in front of everyone?
@@toxicgracie3772 he is 23 u acting like that’s a crime which it isn’t and doc didjt get charged bc it’s not a crime
Why do politicians get away with stuff that you would incriminate a normal person for. Drake has a whole lot of power and a lot more influential than doc.
I feel so sorry for Z man he was his most loyal friend but he has no choice but to let go and move on from doc at least for the time being 😢
karma for Z, that loser has been walling his whole life
@@AncientEvilSaiyan Imagine bringing up hackusations that have not been proven over a serious topic like this. What a loser
Damn it's seems like every game I play GTA or cod it seems like theirs always that I yter who destroyed their career God bless it this is absolutely crazy
@@AncientEvilSaiyan Even if he's walling, this is not that. We're talking real life shit ... Not videogame "cheaters". Zlaner is human and is clearly devastated
@@AncientEvilSaiyanthere something fuckin wrong with if you’re worried about wall hacks over doc being a pedophile and losing respect from everyone.
why is he even adressing this when his whole community is a bunch of 8-12 year olds
It makes sense to warn 8-12 year olds
Seems like the perfect people to warn about the dangers of doc
LoL your communauty is 99% of teenagers XD
The Champions Club needs to move over and fully support ZLANER. Doc doesn't get to ruin this good dude's career.
agreed
Agreed
No thanks, he is a cheating scumbag.
nope
He's the one who started it. Stfu
Wow Z seems devastated 😢
He was one of his close best friends.
@@marcoss831 bro I know that. Plus Doc was the one who put Z in the spotlight and boosted his career. But it's just really sad seeing Z's response in raw emotion like this. Tim and Nick just did a quick shirtless response. Z's was very personal and intimate
He thought he was the only one for doc, sucks to be 2 timed. 😂😂😂
Only because it makes him look like a good person, he knows he's a fraud
A sh I t cheater
What shit friends. Doc has been proven innocent through the court of law.
Ninja was never his friend he's so fake
You weirdo, just because he didn’t cross the illegal line doesn’t mean that doc isn’t weird. Yall need to grow up.
He's proven to have spoken sexually to an underage girl through texts. He didn't meet them or anything but that's a def no
@@longlost2518 Where has it been proven that it was sexual and that the minor was a female?
@@kray421 When he himself said in the tweet he got banned from Twitter due to inappropriate messages with minor.
Kinda devastated anyone that was a fan of watching the doc
bro had like 50k viewers on average mostly kids
@@HotTrashh not true. He probably had more average adult viewers than any other "gaming" streamer. He didn't ponder to kids nor did he play kid games
What are u talking about Doc was hilarious ....... It just sucks to hear he is a sicko wierdo
What are u talking about Doc was hilarious ....... It just sucks to hear he is a sicko wierdo
What are u talking about Doc was hilarious ....... It just sucks to hear he is a sicko wierdo
So illegal he never got prosecuted for it
Ninja knows fuck all, no one has done any research, the problem is everyone’s too scared to be cancelled by association that they’ll jump ship regardless
Dude’s being vague on purpose man
Heres what my research has gotten me. According to leaked emails from Twitch, the girl was 17, which Is age of consent literally everywhere. They also claimed nothing was overtly sexual, but they were "flirting." They emails from 2020 also claim there was no plan to meet up, so i think that part was a lie. If that's the case, I truly dont give af. It's between him and his family. If we don't like the age of consent laws, we need to change them. I think Twitch buried it because you needed to be 18 or older to use Twitch whispers unless a parent is present. And this 17 year old was breaking their TOS and flirt messaging their biggest streamer. In my mind, no difference between 17 and 18, and all the moral high ground takers 100% have watched 18 years olds in porn for years 😂
@@cameron.swizzythat’s basically what his comment says yes lol
My take as well
@@aaronkamakaze2967 No there is a specific line where the minor in question says they are a minor and Doc says that it doesn't matter to him. I know we are all fans. But we can't fangirl on serious stuff like this.
Ninja saying it’s a no brainer is pretty ironic. Dude has no idea. Midnight society, or any company would not want to be associated with someone who has allegations like that under their belt. They didn’t find anything. They just do not want to be with him, incase the situation gets worse. Now, Doc admitting that he has text with someone underage is a literal self confession. Also, there is a problem that needs to be addressed and that is minors faking their ages online and talking to adults. Imagine talking to someone you thought was of age, just to find out they weren’t. That could negatively impact that adults life. Any minor that fakes their age online needs to be prosecuted. Yet, noooooo. Nobody does that. Yall just let yall kids run wild on the internet. I would never stick a phone in my kids face, so they can be distracted. Be a good parent or don’t have a kid. Simple as that.
I don't think you get what no brainer means haha it means an easy decision. not a stupid one.
@@joemclocklin8651 Lmao is that in the dictionary? It’s slang term. Not a real word. I think you need to think and read what I said before you make a ridiculous statement. 😭
PS. You obviously are clueless
@@thetruthh101no one cares about your paragraph you sent lmao
@@joogieboogie616 No one cares about you in general. For you to make a comment like that, you must not have a lot going on in life huh? 😂
@@thetruthh101 not rn it’s summer break so it kinda feels like the Covid lockdown lol
Z man... drippin in heat was my home and outlet for so many years (especially during lockdown) since you and doc started streaming together. To think it all just ended in a few days out of nowhere in such a dark way
Are you ok?
@@toxicgracie3772 i mean, sure! How about you?! O.o
The z laner video almost made me cry, you can tell it hurt him deeply. I hope he stays on the up and i hope all of docs old fans support him
As a 16 year old who has a best friend who messed up like this, and is still friends with this person, I respect Z's statement. Although my best friend was lied to by this person who lied saying they were of age and weren't doesn't make it my friend's fault, but with Doc it's probably different. I will say this, at least Z doesn't flat out betray him, he sees hope for Doc that he might change, in a way he's saying if Doc doesn't change, then he will leave Doc. I will say that even though Midnight has "seen" enough evidence to terminate their contract with Doc does point to some evidence, but we as the public should see, people shouldn't just believe everything they hear, for all we know someone could be plotting against Doc and used some third party software to change texting photos to make it look like he said something, I don't know, but without actual evidence I'm non-bias, because Doc is my favorite streamer and I believe we all make mistakes, no one is perfect. Media is the one thing takes someone who isn't perfect and destroys them for not being an angel.
Every nerd got tattoos now
I like that instead of saying "messing with a minor is completely wrong because child should be protected they are our future." Bro straight starts with "well it's illegal" 💀💀💀
you would like that
Ninja is that guy at work that makes a statement starting why hes going to make a statement, gives an outline and even recaps why he made a statement. Just fkn spit it out
"Doesn't like the drama" continues to add to the drama 😂😂
😂
Sad in today's world its guilty to proven innocent. Some fake ahh friends, just passing judgment without all the facts😂 pathetic
Here after Doc's 1st stream back ;)
9/2024
Man z is tore tf up this is sad.. i can't support doc anymore either after this, and i really feel for z and Tim.. but z especially
How about the victim(s) weirdo internet clout boy
@AudiosIave I never said anything against the victims.. I'm simply feeling bad for z so don't come for me
@@AudiosIaveNot a whole lot going on up there in that “thinking” cap of yours huh?
So many creeps in these comments wowee. Amazing how easily the rats come out of the woodwork.
yup, normally deflecting this whole thing by making up a trans predator in their minds and blabbering about it. dr d admitted to it, he did that stuff. guess they're just mad one of their own got caught
Because i see a lot of comments from "sheep" saying "about minors" and copying/pasting/repeating the fck out of their miserable lives, all i have to say is that:
- You will never know what this guy deals with so you cannot tell what the hell happened the last 3-4 years (in his deals) that make them "reveal" something from this guy's past (AND whether if it is true AND you'll never know the circumstance of that event (if indeed happened) )
- If he indeed did something bad, there is always room for forgiveness (this is what Jez Christ says too)
Because, ... you know what ... YOU may be in his place in the future when the ones you make deals with may hold something "disgusting" of you to reveal to the public's rage !
So people ("sheep") BE WISE when it comes to judge ANYONE online (or offline) !
It’s so ironic you’re calling people sheep, when you’ve fully bought into the Jesus thing. He ADMITTED to inappropriately messaging minors. Case closed.
Man ninja got a whole bottle of baby oil on that tattoo arm 😂😂😂
Why did none of these streamers question it all them years ago when the biggest streamer on twitch is all of a sudden dropped yet none of his pals asked why? It doesn’t add up
Midnight society stab Doc behind his back they invistigated Doc without him knowing anything
if it was illegal they would have pressed charges. Love how he's like " it dont have anything to do with me, but here i am involving myself"
Settling does not mean guilty lol it means you don’t want/don’t have the money to fight it in court
Rubbish. People who are in the public eye settle all the time to protect their brand.
The thing I hate is when ppl say he is canceled or “Cancel Culture”. Ya ! You are Canceled because if for example you are on a sex offender list and a job does a background check “YOU AINT GETTING THAT JOB!”
The cancel culture people are just trying to deflect the negative attention they’ve brought onto themselves onto others.
"For now" "until I see more"
man stand for something
or bow to anything
Do you give negative reviews to books before reading the words inside?
@@JakeOver9000😅 facts
I used to look up streamers caught hacking. Now I look up streaming caught talking to minors. 2024 is crazzzy so far.
Doc did not know she was a minor Until AFTER he was banned suddenly and sued Twitch for breach of contract. How do we know this? Because when he sued Twitch, they were forced to settle as there was no illegal activity found after a full investigation by law enforcement. (Not to mention whispers is an 18+ only feature.) A new report tweeted out Sunday just confirmed that the initial drama started years ago when a few rogue Twitch employees started reading Docs tweets and then reported him to an agency. Initially Doc didn't know why he was banned, then he found out, then sued. But years after, under NDA, he was not allowed to get into it, only used the nickname "Purple Snakes" to describe Twitch.
Doc is a cheat and a PDF he knew what he was doing now he dipped out on holiday...
then why didnt he mention it b4, as charlie said he would mentioned this if it was true
the texts are out my guy, she mentions she's a minor, he replies that's no problem. case closed. i know, fuckin sucks right. gross.
Period no grown man as an adult should ever even being in contact with a minor, regardless of it being sexual or not, unless of course they are blood family but I don’t find it ok that a grown man ever had private messages with young girls or boys it’s completely not ok and so wrong in so many ways. This man and the rest of the team has saved my life in the year of 2020 actually. The death of my infant newborn son, he was a stillborn absolutely devastated my life and put me in a very and horriable dark place. The boys and the streams, the love, fun, exciting experiences with each other and the laughter brought so much joy into my heart and really did keep me alive and believe me, I was on the verge of taking my own life. This news is just put me in shock and even in tears cause I can not support this, I can not support a grown man even messaging a child that they don’t even know, and isn’t family. It’s heartbreaking cause the whole team saved my life including Z, Tim, Nick, cloak and doc and this just is mind blowing and I have no other words to say about this except what in the actual fuck!
No one has the facts.. let the facts come out first
A settlement can be so that someone making up lies cant ruin his name doesn’t always mean you did something wrong
It's weird how it's all speculation, yet all of docs so called friends have already come to conclusions.
I love how all these streamers put their 2 cents in like any of their opinions about anything matter or change how devastating the news was
It’s crazy to me, how everyone can turn their backs on doc without knowing what happened. What actually was said by who. We live in a world where, men dressed in woman’s underwear dancing in front of actual children, (not a young adult) is not seen as inappropriate. We know nothing illegal happened and twitch, with all their money couldn’t prevent having to pay doc out. I’m going to need more information before I turn my back on him, over a 17 year old egirl (pokimane, belle delphine) who most likely twerks on stream for donos. As if a 17 year old American egirl is the epitome of innocence 😂😂😂 I’m definitely not letting a bunch of band wagoneers or Cody Connor’s mulvaney decide for me. If we find out he said some f’ed up stuff to this young adult, than I’m out. He would never been able to show his face again if we find that out anyway. But we just don’t know what was said.
And the fact if she was a couple months older(18) then suddenly it was ok?? Like come on.. We need to see what was said! But the damage is all ready done man.. Its crazy how fast people call him horrible names and shit. We need more evidence to conclude a just opinion. It didn't even come from the young adult in question.. It came from some ex employee or something!
@@Mr--Hexactly, everyone is trusting the word of a disgruntled mouth breather, ex twitch employee, and turning their backs on doc. Meanwhile, nobody knows anything (unless I’ve missed something) we don’t know if she messaged him first and for what reason? We literally know nothing. Docs statement is being viewed as an admission of pdfla. Z, Tim, nick, just flaked on him without knowing anything. Or maybe know something we don’t, but they aren’t hinting that?
Without knowing what happened? The ex-Twitch employee confirmed it, Doc himself confirmed it, and there was also confirmation that Doc didn’t know the minor was a minor beforehand. What else do we need?
@@nintendopro0391 Then wtf is the problem..?
@@nintendopro0391 confirmed what exactly? Do you know something the rest of us don’t?
That mustache he was Rocking was definitely a red flag 😂
Why does ninja seem happy about this??? If anything was illegal..he would’ve been charged. A settlement and pay out in full…means they didn’t want to risk being sued for wrongful termination or something.
Ninja’s statement was before Doc confirmed it on Twitter.
He doesn't seem happy at all? He's just giving his two cents because everyone asks every streamer about this shit.
The fact that no law enforcement was involved should tell you enough
It’s crazy that it’s in the air with no proof. There’s her side of the story there his side of the story and there’s the TRUTH. WAIT FOR THE TRUTH BEFORE YOU JUDGE.
People just refuse to understand this fundamental fact.
didnt he litteraly admit to it himself?
@@ανσιι-δ6ξyes he did. He tweeted a statement that had something along the lines that it was with a minor, but nothing illegal happened. Then he edited it out but you can check edits lol
I wonder what D said in order for Z to have kept playing games with him after the whole situation. You know there had to be some type of dialogue about it. And there’s no way D was just like “I did absolutely nothing wrong, idk why they banned me”
Z was obviously given an ultimatum. Release a video to say you are done with Doc or we will cancel your sponsorships. Turn your back on the person who catapulted your name with no evidence of a crime.
no evidence except his admission of guilt
@@santanacorr3880 i have no idea. but i know Drake inappropriately interacted with a "minor". Doc was apparently investigated by authorities and no wrongdoing was found.
@@robin3 some things don’t have to be illegal to be morally depraved and unacceptable. filming people uriante in a public bathroom is one of those things. cheating on your wife is one of those things. having inappropriate conversations with a high school student at the age of 36, is one of those things. if you can’t see that then you need to seek god in your life.
Dr. Kidinspect here to say it is time for the children to move on. Well don't move on, just hang near me and chat. At times it may get inappropriate.
LETS SEE THE MESSAGES
Honestly I love the Doc, but there’s a line you don’t cross. I feel like we need to see the messages so everyone will know how to move on
@@ZachLo51it only gets crazier. Twitch and the minors parents have some explaining to do.
They're bad. That's why Doc didn't release them himself. Cuz then he'd go from 10 percent support left to
It’s crazy, had Doc decided to take a Sunday trip down to another state, this shit wouldn’t even make the news
Let’s just rush to judgement before all this comes out properly. I hope the Doc knows who are his real friends if he is innocent…
Every streamer that initially has pretended to be Doc's friend has already made up their mind about his guilt...
You talk and joke to minors everyday
You don’t talk about having sex with them, that’s the difference.
I'm always chocked by people giving up on their friends and family. Yes, what he did is without question disgusting. But he my best friend did that, I would not give up on him. I would help him go through this dark place. His life is not over. He's not dead. He's gonna face justice, I will not forgive, but I will forget so I can be a good friend.
The stupid part is them saying "i cant condone that" "its bad full stop" "talking to minors is wrong" etc thats all essentially, just hypotheticals. all that does is adds a layer of legitimacy to nothing more than a fuckin phrase, people hear that and make their own decisions on what happened, when no evidence of Docs wrongdoing has even been shown...
People these days are more concerned with "appearing" to be correct, ie political correctness and taking the moral highground and condemning things, that theres no proof of, in order to make themselves look like saints.
Truely fuckin bizarre how the court of public opinion works. It only seems to work when the stupid people have a say tho, which says alot.
He literally admitted to messaging a minor inappropriately. Doc doesn't need you to make up a false narrative for him, he already admitted to it. I loved watching Doc as much as anyone else, but if you can't discern right from wrong like even Doc himself can, you need to take a good hard look at yourself.
Loved watching doc, read his book, but he's in the wrong here. I'm not anxious to throw stones at him or anyone, but I refuse to turn a blind eye. I can't believe people are still trying to defend him. He's admitted to wrongdoing. He shouldn't be in jail, but he should be shamed. I am certain there are many others just as guilty on each platform and my response would be the same to all of them.
@@VBlongnekk you saying that he said something specific that hasnt even been shown yet is exactly what im talkin about.
He did not say "i inappropriately msgd a minor" (because who tf would openly say that?!) and you wont be able to find that he did, because it doesn't exist lol. So who is making up false narratives? And you have the cheek to say all that in public view lol what a t ar d
@@iambryguy4 "no wrong doing was found" means he admitted to wrong doing huh? 🤔 Very interesting lol
@jamesbadham3872 that's actually literally what he said in the tweet he edited numerous times.
The Dodgers released Trevor Bauer after completing their internal investigation
They talking like he’s died ….
The Doc is dead. Guy is alive but the 2x is most certainly dead.
Well, technically not but whoever stands by doc now needs their hard drive checked themselves.
I never liked Ninja just because i was a little older when he blew up and his audience is mostly children. But I really respect his take along with what he was saying about being a leader in the community and just being a good person in general is not hard. Just being decent makes you less evil than a TON of people. Decent, regular adults don't talk to minors.
Lol docs back….I hope he never plays with you and you never see those views you were getting because of him….remember innocent until proven guilty…
Doc may be back but this will never be forgotten.
Innocent until admitting.
Accept he’s not innocent because he admitted to it and settled out of court lol.
@@_4AMX_nobody cares about yall soft ahh losers 😂 doc will be just fine without fake people like this
Settlements do not mean guilt. It definitely can, but there are times where someone who is very public would want to settle a case quick in order to avoid defamation.
Lord how blind is Z lol
His Optician needs to go jail, poor work with the lenses
OpTiCian-ZLaner
@@admp_rrr8745lmaooo sad times but that’s hilarious lol
Hahahhahahah@@admp_rrr8745
Got them Coke bottle specials
The company let him go just to save face, they both agreed on it to try and salvage what’s left of the game and money invested. But doc will definitely receive royalties off of game upon sales made.
If doc does this nasty crap again then he’ll be a 2 time back to back chomo champion 🤢🤣🤣
I need to see what the messages say before I make any judgment
Z sound like he finna cry 💀 and ion know why but this man when you look at him w his glasses ts look like a filter of some sort or CGI i swear lmao
huh?
He has very thick lenses in his glasses frames. He's basically blind without them. Also, how is it funny that Z sounds like he's gonna cry?
He looks like that boy from a Christmas story
Z is in the car getting tf out of country. Between Doc and his mustache and Z with his glasses we should’ve guessed it
Why address this 4 years later
Because no one knew about it 4 years ago
@@mxmushrooms2702doubt ninja didn’t know
@@wondering_hand0985never know
You’re not a true friend ninja
Imagine having a smokeshow for a wife and millions of dollars with everything to lose and you do shit like this 🙃🙃🙃
Apparently he didn't know it was a minor
@@JonahMV said every groomer on the internet bro lol. Man literally admitted to talking to a minor on twitter then edited that same tweet later on not realizing you can look at the tweet unedited. Next thing he is gonna say is "i was in a dark place" or "my mental health was bad at the time"
“Found enough evidence”
Sounds like people wanted him gone.
Z is upset because, Doc gave him exposure!
All the snakes jumo from out the grass, would be beautiful if doc turns it around with some solid proof, Ninja, always was jealous of the doc. Now he takes his chance.
Minor being 17 is wild. Whole streaming community dying over an e-girl 😂😂😂 would love to see the messages and just see how “bad” they got. People are so cringe.
You nailed it. You are the people that are so cringe.
@@ItemNine keep crying kid
Check this guys browser.
Well the messages are out there so go read them 😂 they’re pretty disgusting
Brotha 17 or not he has a whole wife and kid. And his kid is a girl. She’s going to have friends. Do you not see how this is bad? Do you need crayons ?
Settlements with high profile people can be them paying a liar to avoid bad publicity.
It's all bs. Doc getting screwed.
Ninja needs to stfu and has no room commenting on this lol. Bro doesn't know what he's talking about.
1. Did he know she was a minor?
2. It seems someone is trying to ruin Dr. Disrespect.
He literally said so in his tweet that he's edited 50x. There's no confusion there, Doc said himself they were a minor and the messaging leaned inappropriate. Y'all need to check the facts.
@@Blastfurnace2k He never said he knew she was a minor buddy. Off your high horse you go.
He admittet it happened. That's all. We don't have all the facts@@Blastfurnace2k
@@Blastfurnace2kand that could just as easily mean she messaged him asking to hot tub together, which would be inappropriate for a grown man to accept and they never met.
@@DjAether8 he literally said those exact words sport. It's really not hard to check the facts if you aren't actively avoiding them.
They’re all saying this because the big bad wolf at the top of the streaming chain will ban, shadowban, shame and monetarily impact everyone that stays silent about it.
If I was Docs friend - and a streamer - I wouldn’t have said shit besides “I support him.”
It feels like Tim knew about what was going on
More like he’s guilty of it himself, is the vibe I’m getting
Probably a nonce himself 👍🏻
Leave Tim alone and don’t even think of trying to start that shit
Stfu leave him out of it he wasn’t even speaking to doc when it happened
Yeah don’t drag him into it.
Ninja saying he's one of the "leaders" in the community is gold XD, this guy is delusional
Doc is innocent
he admitted it himself
Zlaner was a fan of Doc before he was a friend. And they became close friends, so i bet it is hard. Man tough
Z amd destroy and doctor il never forget this trio i thought i loat all my emotions due to my past but this is so depressing
"Wish politicians would take care of minors, not just miners on an island somewhere" ~ Oliver Anthony
cant wait for Doc to do a comeback and let twitch get sued
Wild.. absolutely wild to see so many "friends" drop out of the lobby so quick...based on a vague tweet and no solid evidence of anything. Looks like some possible information has come out that may benefit Doc but the damage is done by all these so-called streamers that couldn't back the dude that put them all on. Damn.
I dont know but something seems not right... if the messages were that bad why no charge against DrDisrespect? Why no authoritys involved? Why does Twitch pay him out his hole contract?
Stop defending the dude he fd up and is settling out court. He's done.
Heres what my research has gotten me. According to leaked emails from Twitch, the girl was 17, which Is age of consent literally everywhere. So it's not illegal at all. 16 is the age of consent in most states and almost every country. People don't know this, and think it's 18, that's false. The emails also claimed nothing was overtly sexual, but they were "flirting." The emails from 2020 also claim there was no plan to meet up, so i think that part was a lie. If that's the case, I truly dont give af. It's between him and his family. If we don't like the age of consent laws, we need to change them. I think Twitch buried it because you needed to be 18 or older to use Twitch whispers unless a parent is present. And this 17 year old was breaking their TOS and flirt messaging their biggest streamer. In my mind, no difference between 17 and 18, and all the moral high ground takers 100% have watched 18 years olds in porn for years 😂
Brother, it's simple. Twitch found these messages via illegal means, an employee was snooping through docs private messages which is highly frowned upon and against their contracts/,terms of service. With that being said, any information that was found was found via illegal means and therefore useless in court. On top of that, doc didn't do anything ILLEGAL, just extremely immoral and 100% calls for cancelation at the least.
@@ShockinglyAverageApex then he should take it to court and fight it. Simple as that.
@csrmar13 he already did all he could do, and he should be thrilled that he got his 20m or whatever and another 4 years of free money streaming on TH-cam before shit hit the fan. Let's be real, what he did was a piece of shit move and he didn't deserve our support and hard earned money for all these years
Tim was a social worker that worked with kids before his streaming career took off. I’m sure he feels particularly betrayed.
I’m just gonna say this you settle when it’s a civil case not criminal. There’s a difference difference between being found liable or guilty.
Z laner is so hurt and sad. Poor him. He always looked up to doc. Im gonna miss him and doc playing together 😪
Z eyeballs really reflecting even bigger lmao those glasses are goggles
Doc didn't get dropped because they found something, there wasn't anything to be found. They parted ways just like any business would for any reason.
Couldn't that company letting him go just be PR? Like, that's basically all TH-cam was doing. "It's gonna hurt us to be associated with someone who's being accused of these things." Whether someone actually did it doesn't matter to these guys, it's just a matter of reputation.
Love you Doc! Ignore all those back stabers! Innocent until proven guilty.