The Story of Conscription
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- By the end of 1915, the number of volunteers for military service was dwindling. In March 1916, after much debate, the UK government changed the law. Outside Ireland, all UK citizens were now soldiers, precluded from call-up only by gender, age, physical fitness or occupation.
Compulsory military service of one form or another continued until 1960.
This video explores the pre-war origins and the story of conscription using objects from the National Army Museum’s collection.
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I am always impressed that Australia never introduced conscription in WW1
Didn't need to, considering its much smaller investment in the first world war, the only reason it fought was because it was part of the commonwealth. they weren't in immediate danger and so didn't need as many soldiers, they fought wars for Britain, and so usually it was Britain who had to make up for lack of numbers.
@@relgames6080 cept a larger percentage of the Australian population served than even the UK which had conscription
@@zman1508 they had a smaller population.
@@OscarDirlwood congrats on that stellar comment
@@zman1508 thank you. It only needed one sentence
Abolish military conscription. Without this atrocity at their disposal, governments will be far less inclined to start or continue wars. If a particular war is truly popular, there will be sufficient true volunteers.
Yeah, but that has to be universal, otherwise countries with conscription laws will do whatever they wish
if the neighbor has conscription and is threatening then there will be enough volunteers for your country. u will win the war because volunteers always perform better than conscript@@TheTrooper1878
Conscription seems immoral to me .Cos it happening to me I understand it.
Sorry to hear that man it's fucked up, hope you're ok man.
@@manospronoob being drafted.
I have compulsory service in Brazil for 9 months
How did it go?
@@Cacowninja Finished it about a year ago
It was informative
The fact that the state can force a man to give his very life for that state, shows that the state owns us. They still think they own us even now. But they know conscription will do them more harm than good - the last thing they want now is for common working class proles to have weapons training.
Imagine having to give your life for a state, that would have you work down a mine your entire life, for a meagre pittance in return; while they live in luxury without having to lift a finger? and we are to die for them?? So glad I was born in 1986 and not 1886... the difference just 100 years makes/
Exactly they don't care about the poorer men they forced into way they see them as peasants n they were even willing to slaughter thousands of young men for material gain n u never know there true motives also how do they have the right to claim ur body n life when they aren't leafing by example n going into war on the front lines like the king's did in ancient times it's male exploitation n male slavery n the US government still hasn't outlawed signing up for selective service registration n men can't even get a drivers licence in many states
The government will conscript me. And send them to their end, but won't do the same to women, especially women who are femenists and say they're stronger than men haha 😂
They aren’t living in luxury, they are out there fighting the same fight that you so callously disregard just for a cheap snack.
It's terrible that slavery still exists since the 2000s.
Most kids will refuse to go. I would
Conscription sounds like my idea of a living hell. And in answer to the question, no, I very much doubt it would happen in the UK today. Modern wars are fought by technology, not by boots on the ground.
My dad was a conscripted and he said that it was ok and modern war still needs boots on the ground
@@sababugs1125 It does, but war doesn't require the same amount of service men/women as it used to.
@@rvic11 yes but if you are a small country most of the time conscription is the best way to build up your military power and that why conscription is still around parts of the world
@@rvic11 and how much men you need also depends on the enemy and the environment ECT
In Greece we have conscription and if you like it or not depends on the person.But some army bases have wi-fi,ps4s and TVs.So you will have a good time
Soldiers are professional dead people, good for them, it's nice that they've found an interest. I do not share this interest, don't make me die so rich people can have a few million more pounds, cheers.
@Unknown the swastika might not be flying in the White House now, but it's in there somewhere.
@madscientist 666 because it has an entirely new meaning too now. It represents Nazi's, regardless of its original use/meaning.
I hope you are happy giving away Czechoslovakia and Poland to Hitler, or Southeast Asia to HiroHito just for a pointless peace.
I refused to go to Iraq.
This shit MUST BE ABOLISHED!!!
You are true my brother
@@AlenMakhmedov he’s wrong but you’re not my brother and he’s not your brother because he did nothing to to have the title of brother
Coming from a family with generations of volunteers. I believe forced service is a violation of your freedoms to the highest level. But what if nobody (coat holders I call them) went when your territory was invaded...tough call isn't it.
It's literally slavery in fact the worst form of slavery cause it's either death possibly a gruesome one or PTSD defending the vulnerable n ur country should be done but never ever forced
If nobody volunteered, maybe that particular country didn't deserve to be defended. However, it's highly unlikely that literally nobody would volunteer.
My country's about to start drafting people again next year and I'm sad to see us sinking so low. I was ready to volunteer, if a war started, but now I won't.
@@krumuvecis Yes, My Country is the most corrupt if you know that, so I will never ever go to war for my government. I don't care if my country to be broken and occupied by foreign power, because we feel like we have already been enslaved by our own government.
I'd refuse
@@krumuvecis If nobody volunteers, your country is done for. Even if there are 300 - 400 thausand volunteers, they still can't do anything, as we can see from the war in Ukraine. Also, you say you were ready to volunteer if a war started, but it will be too late. Even if your training is 6-8 months, it still isn't enough to make you stay alive on the front and most of these conscripts will die if they have to take part in an actual battle. People said it a long time ago: If you want peace, get ready for war.
The only time conscription is necessary is if your country ever gets invaded or in constant Danger like South Korea.
South Korea isnt actually in any danger. Nuclear deterrent is exactly that- deterring.
It's not ever necessary, NO mean NO. If someone doesn't want to fight that's their damn choice.
Yes, but for women also. because THEY ARE living in a shithole called mother land tooo !!
@@Cacowninja look ancap, you and i don't always see eye to eye but you're based here
@@rorynator7567 There is no "based" here.
Nobody is entitled to your labor especially the freaking government for the fucking draft.
You should get to decide whether to fight or not because you're the one being "inquired" to fight you get the choice.
The draft is a form of slavery because it's forced.
It assumes the government owns you to make you fight. If you support the draft even if certain circumstances you support slavery which is wrong.
You own yourself NOT THEM.
Paradoxically, the best way to ensure that men aren't drafted to fight a pointless war is to ensure that women will be too.
This must never happen again people should not be forced into the army
nwlman Only if it's nessecary, if it's a foolish war like Vietnam then conscription is a no
There's no point really. Wars these days are highly political like the War on Terror so you can't really force people to take part in that. Also, any conflict that would actually threaten global peace would probably end in a nuclear war so you'd likely never use the conscripts anyway.
Silverknight171 are you stupid? Of course it was a foolish war
@Silverknight171 Vietnam was in technical terms, a collosal cock up.
@Kotel if the country is actually at extreme risk, then they should draft you, but if it's like all the other wars we've had in the last 70 years, I don't think we need to die so the rich can have a big Scrooge McDuck money vault.
I think gun safety, cpr, how to pay taxes and what they’re used for should be taught in schools
Conscription creepy the hell out of me.
Join a church like the Mennonites or 7th Day Adventists. It will keep you from being drafted.
POV- your here because ur teacher made it a task😂
lol
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@@amymccreadie09 heyyo!
Not a POV anymore, it’s real. :D
It is not by preparing for war that you make peace, it is by preparing for peace, the draft is a medieval concept, let's move on.There is no glory in war only death and destruction, let the rich bastards fight their wars themselves if they want, I'm not going to die for anyone else's benefits.
Have you been double vaccinated because you really believe in the dangers of Covid?
bruh conscription started during the french revolution lol
It started way before that. Maybe France invented a modern form of it but conscription has existed since ancient times.
@@Cacowninja Probably, but it was largely adopted after that, so eventhough it could have been present before that, it wasn't common.
@@TheTrooper1878Whatever the case conscription/draft/selective service is bullshit.
Nobody should have to join the military for any reason because that's slavery.
Also it's funny countries still have the draft even those there's private militaries with people who are willing to fight.
The draft is just a form of control as well as a way to run the military industrial complex.
Is this the Sabaton voice lady?
I think it is!
I hope it never comes to that I never want to join the military, I worry it would ruin/waste my baby bearing years or depending on what is being used make me less fertile, but I would support the effort in other ways ie factory work ...
You are a woman if you are conscripted then shit has really hit the fan so your baby is in trouble wheater you are in or not in the military
ur a woman... u aint getting drafted so don't kid yourself lol
Don’t have children because they would be forced to live a life of years of misery (education), will have to deal with pain and suffering, will have to live their life working and paying bills. It seems inconsiderate to force more suffering into this world and the world is already overpopulated and having children is outrageously expensive and time consuming.
Military training damages the brain. Studies prove that.
@@username5502 Western world is not overpopulated, infact the birthrates have been under the sustainability minimum for over 40 years, which mean we are heading to a demographic crisis
I wouldn't do it
We dont them to be forced in!! Ask an pay them a wage! Give somthing to focus on, wen trained for 6months or so, then take them to countries were people need help! It will open there eyes for them when they see the way other people with nothing live and maybe they will understand things, I'm sure they dont wanna be sitting on street corners !!? Wish I could have joined up, but with I'll health, I'm glad to be a live, sure we could sort something out?😅
Could it happen today? We're about to find out I suppose 😅
It could happen again!
Is conscription in the UK obligatory? I don't understand English good. I don't understood the woman in the video.
Hi there, is there anyone here who could tell more about the Junior Leaders and the Junior Soldiers? After the National Service ended, could a boy under the age of 18 join the army?
HERE'S WHAT I THINK:
If our country doesn't start pulling together and get the border closed to calm the pouring of drugs into this country, there won't be a man fit for service LEFT!
You bet
Conscription is horrible. Good men (and women) recruited in the military against their will or otherwise face imprisoned if they refuse. Imperial Japan was the worst case.
No, it’s not the opposite. It makes a society. It makes nations cohesion in it last a better understanding of who the people are in society from rich to poor units countries like it it brings unity and conscription is a tool who uses it is the other question
Next time can you please add some kanye west in the background
I think that it could still happen today I think that anything that's happened up to this point could happen again. Take America for instance this place is falling apart into chaos you have all these young veterans. You have a lot of tension in the streets one side's always pitted against the other and this is going to continue to worsen because nothing is really being done about it. I see our society really kind of degrading into what it was during the civil war or the great depression of course always with our new technology. Still though if we are in America right now we are living in a rapidly destabilizing country. So yes I do think it could happen today. If there or any more conflicts there will probably be no choice because people are too busy whining at each other about what they're ancestors did.
It's degrading into Socialism. The powers that be have allowed it so that our country will be easy pickings. It isn't bc they believe in the chaos...
When Japan invaded New Guinea and all the Africa divisions rushed home what did Australia do in 1941? Wait for the Americans?
They fought the Japanese to a stalemate
how long should Brits serve??? and Do they get pay??
Aqua jack
It’s only needed during large conflict
It's a form of slavery since it assumes the state owns you so even if it were theoretically necessary it still wouldn't be legitimate.
No means no.
No. During the conflict it is already too late to conscript, as the training is rushed and people will be sent to die without proper experience.
I am for conscription. I know it's shitty but if it came to it; my home being invaded then sign me up.
young men, it is your duty to dodge the draft!
No, it’s your duty to do the draft
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In Greece army is mandatory for 18 year old males unless you get an extension for studying. I have studied in the US, I am relatively wealthy and yet I am not dodging it and I am currently trying to join the special forces. If you ask me, it’s necessary to promote patriotism.
Greece is a bankrupt third world country no wonder it enslaves it's citizens to serve in the army
@@patrickbateman1540 conscription has been used in greece since the early 1900s.Also greeece is not poor
@@shingosshojiopoulos6608 You are right it's poorer than poor, one would say it's the Pakistan of Europe
@@patrickbateman1540 haha.Greece isn't even on the top 10 most poor country in europe.Greece is just the poorest rich country in europe.
If countries have conscription, it should be for both sexes
Sadly the post war generations born after national service ended are too wrapped up in their personal liberties and priorities. This is a direct result of governments, families and society encouraging people to think only of themselves first, last and always. "What can my country do for me", has far outshadowed, "what can I do for my country". National service would put a strain on the British military that they, heavily understrenght as they are, could not bear. The more so because most of the intake would be very reluctant to surcome to military discipline.
Why should anyone bother serving in the military when the country doesn't even treat them like a proper human being? The US as it is now, is not worth defending with my life, and hasn't been that way since the start of Reagan's first term at the absolute earliest.
If you are forced to serve in the military for a country that doesn't really care if you live or die at home or on the battlefield, how motivated would you be to perform your absolute best? I wouldn't be. In the US schools are underperforming, infrastructure is in dire need of repair, we can't even get clean water to the people of Flint Michigan, and many other cities even, there's a private prison system that relies on the criminal classification of marijuana and all other schedule 1 drugs, the richest country in the world somehow is unable to keep poverty rates low and give everyone health insurance, and on top of that, we have idiots in power giving more and more power to the corporations. Remind me again why I should be compelled to fight for a country that doesn't give a shit about its citizens?
But in the end we're just tools of the government
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So what you mean is you shouldn't think about yourself and your own life but instead think of those wankers in government and the royals ?
lol you are a joker, people these days decide if they want to fight for the government. we are much smarter and better informed and will not let governments use us as cannon fodder
Wow... i have no idea why many people in other country refusing join military even just concription. meanwhile in my country every single boy even adult man feel so honor can join in military and sent them live in battle field, although they must bribing some corrupt person
Kristianto Anugrahing cuz there brainwashed
What fascist state do you live in?
"I feel so honored to be used as pawn by the government. To kill people i dont personally know, only im told to hate them"
Sounds Dystopian
@@igamingmp1526 i live in Indonesia, i think not about to be pawn or even tools of government, But mostly barbaric minded. None of use brainwashed by government, it just simply using uniform and carrying gun is a cool things
You don't understand because you lack education and basic intelligence.
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