IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit ANY of the older HJC models (RPHA 70 90 11, i70, i90, i100, CL Max etc).
@@Coninator correct, not ALL new models will have integrated comms. V10, new RPHA 12 (coming soon). The V10 is a vintage helmet and the RPHA 12 is a racing helmet, neither is suitable for fully integrated comms.
I have the 21B but can't find the FM radio function as Quoted at 7min 22 seconds.. The instructions do not mention an FM radio. I bought this to listen to FM radio (as per this review) and talk handsfree on the mobile. So how do I activate the FM radio if it has one? What am I missing?
I own 4 HJC helmets, and the single most frustrating thing about them is the Proprietary Com system!!, The day they can link to a Cardo Pack system, I’ll buy a set for all 4 helmets. This reminds me of the old days, and the battle between Beta & VHS. SOMEONE PLEASE COMPROMISE.
I’m seeing bad reviews on both of these. How is the audio? Locked in with having to get one due to the HJC helmet, but also bummed the reviews online aren’t that great. What are your thoughts on sound?
@@murftasticav8241I’m in the same situation as you. Most reviews say it’s not worth the money. If u find out more quality details about these headphones please let me know. Thanks
Hello, I am researching a Smart series intercom for my HJC Rpha 71 helmet. I am thinking of a model that is suitable for use as pillion only for my wife and me. I don't do group rides. Which model should be preferred in this regard?
200$!?! Must be crazy! I got me a chinese general intercom with bluethooth 5 and and USB type C that lasts for 12hours and payed 30$ for a pair! Previously I had some Lexin that also lasted me for two years. They still work but I wanted some newer ones!
How did you route the wire attached to the control unit(s)? Especially since there is a wire on the control unit(s) that passes thru the helmet. No sign of electrical contacts, and no sign of a wire wrapping raround the bottom of the helmet. There is no sign of electrical contacts under the plate, and no sign of a wire wrapping raround the bottom of the helmet.
Hi Paul - The HJC Smart units are made by Sena. If you're connecting to a Cardo you'll need to use what they call a universal bluetooth mode. This mode will connect you to one of the Cardo units in your riding group. By connecting to that Cardo unit you'll be 'kissed' into the larger group, mesh or otherwise. It's important to note you much stay within range of that cardo you are paired to as you will not have a self healing (mesh) connection. So in short the answer is YES but if you ride with a large group running Cardo mesh often you might want to consider going with a Cardo mesh unit.
I have the Cardo Packtalk Bold for myself and for my wife, I like the fact these are water resistant for rain. Helmet manufactures are designing helmets for their communications systems only which is frustrating. Who makes a modular helmet with color options for cardo systems? The cardo palktalk worked great on the HJC i90 but looks like will not work on the i91
Especially since there is a wire on the control unit(s) that passes thru the helmet. No sign of electrical contacts, and no sign of a wire wrapping raround the bottom of the helmet.
I have not found anywhere if 21b is compatible with HJC F71. In the helmet specifications it is mentioned that the helmet is compatible with any second generation HJC SMART, but the F71 helmet is not mentioned in the HJC SMART product descriptions.
Can we communicate with our connected device simply by saying "hey google" or "hey siri" with the 21b even if it doesn't have the second panel like the 50b?
Bluetooth connections are NOT brand dependent. Mesh however is proprietary, so you wont be able to make a true mesh connection across brands. That said you can typically connect a Sena to a Cardo unit as bluetooth and get 'kissed in' to a mesh group. The rider you have that bluetooth link with needs to stay in range otherwise you'll loose you link and have to re-pair. Hope this helps.
@@SpeedAddictsTV yeah, it does. That's a pity there is no standard for mesh yet, especially when on the market it's more and more helmets adapted for specific intercom model.
@@CornelliusT We've heard rumors that Uclear and Cardo are in talks about unifying their mesh systems. Would be nice if they all decided to play ball in the future.
@@SpeedAddictsTV That would be a showstopper for me. They saved about $2 in production costs, but eliminated options for either upgraded speakers or my preferred solution of noise-isolating earbuds. Pity.
@@SpeedAddictsTV Harley limits non-HD to mono sound with BT connections. If you want full functionality you have to get the HD branded SENA units. Also, any firmware updates have to come through the HD website. The standard SENA update path won't work. Took me awhile to figure this out. I don't know the there are any HD branded built-in units like this. I cannot confirm but hear that the 24 models have done away with this requirement so hopefully this will filter down to previous MY Harleys with dealer flash.
Hey Phillip, These units are made by Sena and have hardwired speakers. So speaker swaps are not an option, but we will say the audio is quite good as they stand.
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
This is very disappointing , I bought the 21b , thinking it would fit my i100 which I only got 1yr.ago , I don't understand why they bring out a unit like this that won't fit other hjc helmet models 👎👎
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
No, the HJC RPHA 11 is not compatible with any of the HJC Smart Comms. You'll need to purchase a universal unit for the RPHA 11, we'd recommend the Cardo Packtalk Neo as it's our top pick for a premium universal units at this moment - www.speedaddicts.com/motorcycle/cardo-packtalk-neo-bluetooth-headset-single
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IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit ANY of the older HJC models (RPHA 70 90 11, i70, i90, i100, CL Max etc).
V10 is a new model as well but it doesn‘t fit the new smart models.
@@Coninator correct, not ALL new models will have integrated comms. V10, new RPHA 12 (coming soon). The V10 is a vintage helmet and the RPHA 12 is a racing helmet, neither is suitable for fully integrated comms.
@@SpeedAddictsTV the V10 is suitable for the older 10 and 20 series of the Smart HJC
@@Coninator No, the V10 will only accept a universal comm system from Cardo, Sena or the link.
@@SpeedAddictsTV mate i‘ve got 2 HJC V10 helmets. Experience talking. :)
Thank's man! You are the only one who described the necessary differences between the two systems.
According to Sena, the 21B is equivalent to 10R where the 50B is equivalent to 50R.
I have the 21B but can't find the FM radio function as Quoted at 7min 22 seconds.. The instructions do not mention an FM radio. I bought this to listen to FM radio (as per this review) and talk handsfree on the mobile. So how do I activate the FM radio if it has one? What am I missing?
Have you downloaded the HJC Smart app? FM Radio should work through there.
@@SpeedAddictsTV It does and is quite easy through the app
I own 4 HJC helmets, and the single most frustrating thing about them is the Proprietary Com system!!,
The day they can link to a Cardo Pack system, I’ll buy a set for all 4 helmets.
This reminds me of the old days, and the battle between Beta & VHS.
SOMEONE PLEASE COMPROMISE.
It definitely is very frustrating.
I’m seeing bad reviews on both of these. How is the audio? Locked in with having to get one due to the HJC helmet, but also bummed the reviews online aren’t that great. What are your thoughts on sound?
We have not personally tested this unit to check the sound quality.
@@SpeedAddictsTV bummer
@@murftasticav8241I’m in the same situation as you. Most reviews say it’s not worth the money. If u find out more quality details about these headphones please let me know. Thanks
Hello, I am researching a Smart series intercom for my HJC Rpha 71 helmet. I am thinking of a model that is suitable for use as pillion only for my wife and me. I don't do group rides. Which model should be preferred in this regard?
The 21B unit would be best for you needs.
200$!?! Must be crazy! I got me a chinese general intercom with bluethooth 5 and and USB type C that lasts for 12hours and payed 30$ for a pair!
Previously I had some Lexin that also lasted me for two years. They still work but I wanted some newer ones!
That's pretty cheap! Appreciate the feedback.
How did you route the wire attached to the control unit(s)? Especially since there is a wire on the control unit(s) that passes thru the helmet. No sign of electrical contacts, and no sign of a wire wrapping raround the bottom of the helmet. There is no sign of electrical contacts under the plate, and no sign of a wire wrapping raround the bottom of the helmet.
If you follow the instructions, it should be no issue.
I have an RPHA 90 and would like to be able to run mesh. I know they say it is for the x1 series but curious if it would be backwards compatible.
Mesh connection works within the same brand only.
Wonder why I can't find any good video on youtube for the Smart HJC 11B. Apparently it has only two way comms.
The 10B and 20B units were discontinued.
@@SpeedAddictsTV I see, but isn't the 11B just an updated version of the old 10B though?
Are they the same speakers that are in the HJC 10B and 20B?
I could not find information anywhere on what speakers they use. You can try reaching out to HJC directly.
Do these have the same connect-ability with cardo paktalks? Like not just connecting with one unit, but a group ride with cardo users.
Hi Paul - The HJC Smart units are made by Sena. If you're connecting to a Cardo you'll need to use what they call a universal bluetooth mode. This mode will connect you to one of the Cardo units in your riding group. By connecting to that Cardo unit you'll be 'kissed' into the larger group, mesh or otherwise. It's important to note you much stay within range of that cardo you are paired to as you will not have a self healing (mesh) connection. So in short the answer is YES but if you ride with a large group running Cardo mesh often you might want to consider going with a Cardo mesh unit.
I have the Cardo Packtalk Bold for myself and for my wife, I like the fact these are water resistant for rain. Helmet manufactures are designing helmets for their communications systems only which is frustrating. Who makes a modular helmet with color options for cardo systems? The cardo palktalk worked great on the HJC i90 but looks like will not work on the i91
It definitely can be frustrating.
Than you for the review. Can you unit be charged while you are using it?
No, when you plug these in to power they will shutdown.
Unfortunately, you cannot ride while charging.
Why did you speed up the installation 🤦🏽 repeat and repeat info but speed through the installing bit which would be useful for viewers..
Especially since there is a wire on the control unit(s) that passes thru the helmet. No sign of electrical contacts, and no sign of a wire wrapping raround the bottom of the helmet.
We thought the install was too long to keep in the final edit. Sorry about that.
are they compatible with older rpha series like the RPHA 11...i have 2 of them and thats what stopping me from buying them
Unfortunately, these are units are not compatible with the RPHA 11.
@SpeedAddictsTV dang 🫤 thank you for the response though
any difference in sound quality or output between the two units?
Same exact speakers and audio quality.
I have not found anywhere if 21b is compatible with HJC F71.
In the helmet specifications it is mentioned that the helmet is compatible with any second generation HJC SMART, but the F71 helmet is not mentioned in the HJC SMART product descriptions.
The F71 is compatible with the 21B. It is mentioned on HJC's website.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Can we communicate with our connected device simply by saying "hey google" or "hey siri" with the 21b even if it doesn't have the second panel like the 50b?
@@danielburke9168doesn’t work for me. I have 21B version.
Are the new smart bluetooth headsets compatible with "older" helmets? (ie c91)
These units are not compatible with the older helmets.
Any news on an attachment kit for cardo like the ones on the shoei neotec 2/gt-air 2 (i know there isnt one for the threes 😢)
We do sell the Cardo packtalk adapter for Shoei helmets.
@@SpeedAddictsTV was hoping they made one for the rpha 91 😕
Can we fit the better harman/kardon speakers to the hjc 50B?
Unfortunately, you have to use the speakers included.
@@SpeedAddictsTV thank you
Is the bluetooth function of this intercom works with insta360 like other intercom?
Not sure. You can reach out to HJC directly for assistance.
Hi, Have you tested if it can work with Cardo perhaps? I mean does it connect to Cardo mesh or you need to use bluetooth?
Bluetooth connections are NOT brand dependent. Mesh however is proprietary, so you wont be able to make a true mesh connection across brands. That said you can typically connect a Sena to a Cardo unit as bluetooth and get 'kissed in' to a mesh group. The rider you have that bluetooth link with needs to stay in range otherwise you'll loose you link and have to re-pair. Hope this helps.
@@SpeedAddictsTV yeah, it does. That's a pity there is no standard for mesh yet, especially when on the market it's more and more helmets adapted for specific intercom model.
@@CornelliusT We've heard rumors that Uclear and Cardo are in talks about unifying their mesh systems. Would be nice if they all decided to play ball in the future.
Is there a headphone jack like there are on a standard Sena?
No aux jack, thus you do need to use the hardwired HD speakers.
@@SpeedAddictsTV That would be a showstopper for me. They saved about $2 in production costs, but eliminated options for either upgraded speakers or my preferred solution of noise-isolating earbuds. Pity.
so apparently HJC/Sena finally release a firmware update for these. I have no idea if it gets rid of the bugs or not since I don't own one.
We are not sure ourselves. Hopefully they worked out the kinks.
wil it fit HJC helmet CL max 3 ...
My guy! Please see the pinned comment ↕
jim carrey gave us a pretty good review
Thanks for watching!
I have the 50b with Hjc. I have loads of problems turn it on
It could be a defective unit.
How can i connect the 50b to my insta360 x4?
I'm not too sure. If standard bluetooth connection does not work, it's best to contact HJC.
Does HJC / Sena have a unit that is compatible with Harley-Davison's Wireless Headset Interface Module?
It should be able to connect via Bluetooth.
@@SpeedAddictsTV Harley limits non-HD to mono sound with BT connections. If you want full functionality you have to get the HD branded SENA units. Also, any firmware updates have to come through the HD website. The standard SENA update path won't work. Took me awhile to figure this out. I don't know the there are any HD branded built-in units like this. I cannot confirm but hear that the 24 models have done away with this requirement so hopefully this will filter down to previous MY Harleys with dealer flash.
Hi there when will you do the new 11b ? Thank you
Once we get the item, we will definitely do a review.
Does it fit in the hjc i91 helmet?
Yes, it does fit the i91 helmet.
Hello, is the 21b compatible with hjc f71?
Yes, this unit is compatible with the F71 helmet.
Will this fit in my LS2 vector 2 helmet?
These units will only work with HJC specific helmets.
Many thanks. Perfectly explained
Can I use the jbl speakers from cardo with these?
Hey Phillip, These units are made by Sena and have hardwired speakers. So speaker swaps are not an option, but we will say the audio is quite good as they stand.
İs it fit for HJC V10??
This unit will not fit the V10 helmet.
do.any of these pair with other brands
They can pair to other brands by using a Bluetooth connection.
Wait, so does the 50B also support bluetooth comms or not?
Yes it does!
compatible with rpha12?
This unit is not compatible with the RPHA 12.
Hjc Smart 21b is compatible with Siri?
To get digital assistant access you have to step up to the 50B.
21B out of stock?
We are expecting more in stock later this month.
is this smart 21 and 50 fits for rpha 70 carbon?
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
@@SpeedAddictsTV thanks for info
Is the 50B waterproof?
I don't believe it is waterproof.
Is 21B compatible with i100 helmet?
The HJC i100 is only compatible with the HJC Smart 10B and 20B.
@@SpeedAddictsTV thanks
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
This is very disappointing , I bought the 21b , thinking it would fit my i100 which I only got 1yr.ago , I don't understand why they bring out a unit like this that won't fit other hjc helmet models 👎👎
would it fit on i20? thanks
Hey Jeng, you'd want to go with HJC 10B and 20B for the i20.
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
Is it waterproof?
It is waterproof.
i have the i 90 will the 21b work with it ?
Negative, the i90 is only compatible with the first gen HJC Smart 10B and 20B units.
@@SpeedAddictsTV ty for the info
IMPORTANT FITMENT INFO: The new HJC Smart 21B and 50B will ONLY fit the new 2023+ models: RPHA 31 / 71 / 91 and i71. NO, this unit will not fit the older HJC models (RPHA 70, 90, 11, i70, i90, i100).
Does it work with rpha 11 carbon?
No, the HJC RPHA 11 is not compatible with any of the HJC Smart Comms. You'll need to purchase a universal unit for the RPHA 11, we'd recommend the Cardo Packtalk Neo as it's our top pick for a premium universal units at this moment - www.speedaddicts.com/motorcycle/cardo-packtalk-neo-bluetooth-headset-single
Would it fit on i10?
Wouldn't work on the i10 as it turns out, you'll have to stick with the 10b or 20b
Can the 21b and 50b connect to the 20b?
Or the 10b?
@@kodypersinger1511 Yes, Bluetooth connections are NOT model or brand dependent. So the HJC Gen 1 units will connect to these Gen 2 units.
Thank you so much 👏👏👏
Useless. I want to see how it’s done. I sat through all the guff before. Where do the earpieces go? Where do the wires sit?
yeah, it's a sales ad not the review/install that I was looking for.
@@RonniesRamblesyep, he did state he was going to show us the install
We did technically show the install. We sped it up since this is a review first and foremost.
The install was what I was dying to see. I’m still waiting to see.
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