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They deserved it tho, its a wake up call for them especially for the that fcking high ego coach Didnt learn from the 1st two matches I thought they're hiding strat coz they keep using baxia and akai But boi i was so wrong
That just might be the extent of their strat. I remember coach lyrick being able to figure out their draft flow way back when he made content. If a solo content creator with no backup analysts can do it, imagine what a coach/analyst with plenty of resources can do. Bren really got them figured out, I guess.
I do not know if playing tank junglers is the most comfortable route for Echo, but assuming it is, the team played with their most comfortable heros, so win or lose, they did it with their best heros like what the coach from singapore said. Regardless of the results, aim higher next time and keep the Echo express going!
echo's always like this. It takes them way too long to adapt to a new meta. When Karltzy finally adapted to the tank meta, they went on to become world champions and now a new patch drops two weeks before MSC and they're back to their old habits again. Those drafts against APBren were atrocious
Because ApBren already knows how to counter Echo's strat and can counter Echo's aggressive rotation and team fights that's why if ApBren controls the map Echo will have a hard time, micro wise Echo also wins because they always find a way to get equal trade in team fights even if they are behind from Bren but Bren early aggression is too strong and also top tier draft favored Bren that's why they won the match
People keeps blaming the coach but coaches have to compromise in order to match the pool of the players and the best posible picks. A perfect draft is nothing if the players couldn't execute it. Karltzy was the best assassin user. Keyword, *was*
Karltzy already answered this in his stream before if management would say that he needs to play assassin then he will and would just need to spam those heroes. It could be their game rotation is not right for it. Before coming to Team Echo, Karl was still hellbent in using assassin and even in Season 9 when it was already utility Jungler meta so their manager scolded him and have him played the Utility Jungler. He’s now a team player and very unlikely that he will not follow what the Coach says. They need to adjust their game style if Karl has to play assassin. Hope they can adjust before the Snapdragon. Also, the other team drafted smartly having Julian as flex and play as mid. I was also a bit disappointed because I thought Liquid Echo has some surprise hero pick but it is what it is. Nt and GG!!!
Other than that, during the game against APBREN we rarely see Sanford using damage type explaner like benetta, paquito or lapu. He used sustain and tb type explaner like Terizla and arlott which doesnt suits well with tank jungler. He only use paquito first game and lost, the third game with yu zhong and win. He should have just used damage targeting backline based explaner if ECHO draft insistes on playing tank utility jungler.
Kyletzy really not buying fully to the utility jg meta seasons before really helped innovate apbren this msc. So much flexibility from their draft (esp the mid julian gamble)
they lost because their draft is predictable, they always open Julian for no reason and couldn't adapt to FCAP's hero draft picks and playstyle. Sad that they lost against FCAP (since they are my pickem) but happy that a PH team is in the finals!
Idk about high micro assassins but why didn't they pick julian when it was open i am pretty sure karl can play julian or even sanji why 2nd pick pharsa
@@markanthonycombo7662his from malaysia not Indonesia based on his comment history ( just click his profile and it will show all his comment in this channel )
Difference between NA fans and PH, NA fans blame teammates of their favorite players while PH fans giving credit to the winner because they picked, banned and played better
If you don't fight for what you want then it doesn't make any sense if you are sad or disappointed like this just swallow the raw truth and prepare for the next no need for sadness
Thats where karltzys confidence gap is at. He's using utility jungle because his teamates cannot keep up with the damage output that Bren can produce in such a short amount of time.Even if he likes going for assasin and secure kills and objectives, in the long run their towers will definitely wittle down because kyle can definitely kill any heroes they have 1v1. Sanford is good but against someone his level, it's 50-50 He's on always aggressive side and its good but marco can already anticipate it thus he arrives faster than benny during these objective clash where their lanes are on the opposite side of the map.Then benny, it's not his positioning that makes him very strong it's his ability to completely release a burst damage in an instant but in terms of positioning he's a level below marco and so is marco in completely bursting his opponent, he's more like kiter than a burster. In terms of midlaners I think sanji is a level ahead of pheww but in team fight, pheww opts for a poke damage rather than a clash damage because he knew that kyle can one shot anyone as an assasin if he can wittle them low enough as karltzy was forced to play as a utility jungler. The new emblems and items also gives a much more advantage as an assasin jungler than a utility jungler. Sanji likes to fight agressive in a fight. Mostly 3 combo shot to eliminate marco or pheww but his style of being a mage is completely countered by Master Owgwen. Owgwen is really good at reading on when an enemy decides to instantaneously remove a player in the map and will not hesitate to use his arsenal even if he knows the enemy might bluff because even if he missed, flaptzy always compliments his mistakes as well as owgwen for flap. As for jaypee, thats5where it contradicts the playstyle of echo. Jaypee tends to think more of how to save his teammates and make a one definite play. His play is more of a wiped set or game ending set like what chaknu is. He's really good at reading assasins but he's limited by Karl's utility. I think that if jaypee is a bitore aggressive in his playstyle, they could've caught flap and owgwen most of the time because they're the only two in bren that can actually slip up. But i dunno tho, that's just what I was during their fights. And also when they beat bren in Ph finals, it's because the synergy of phew and owgwen was too focused that his synergy with flap just became no existent.
Masyado nang paulit-ulit draft ng TLPH eh. Unlike sa APBREN na first pick nila mind game na, example is yung Julian at Roger pwedeng gawin gold lane or mid lane and pwede rin e jungle kaya nakakalito talaga.
@@bukojuice_11 m2 karl assassins god daw pero lance lang alam at ibang damage jungler ginagamit niya ay mm lol kyletzy is the true goat jungler completo na title niya flexible jungler pa di kagaya kay karl hero pool baxia akai barats fredrin kaso na nerf haha at wala pa siyang msc
ECHO draft against APBREN this MSC just like ONIC draft against APBREN during last M5. Why they picked sustain explaner when they want to use utility jungler. It will never work on APBREN. They should just go for Damage type explaner like what they did in first game, third game and also during final MPL PH to give APBREN the hard time. Its also Sanford comfort pick and can make him combo well with Sanji.
Now no more tank meta in tournament, because farm too slow + no damage to let opponent aware of u except ur gold or mage good until can carry damage (dps, but still lower meta than fighter / assassin jungler now
As much as I want to defend Karl, after seeing him not adapt to the meta for that 1M USD grand prize, I lost all my trust in him. I believed in them until the last game but, not expecting much from TLPH unless Karl starts spamming assassins again.
@@Mockingbird-c3j spam assasin sa stream nya yan hindi lang talaga yun hinanda nila buong team dapat magadapt na. kayang-kaya pa nga ng baxia nya kaya binan din si sanford lang napuruhan
Sa mga nagtataka kung bakit puro utility junglensi Karltzy, umay naman kayo. Dahil yun kau Jaypee😂 Ang liit ng hero pool nya kung saan sya nagiging effective. Outskilled sya kay Owgwen. Para ngang 5v4 ang laban eh. Lakas lang talaga ng tandem ng SanSan duo kaya nabubuhat si Jaypee. Check nyo game 5. Kahit si Vee di nya mairecommend na mag engage type hero si Jaypee kasi nga, lugi sa galawan. Di ko sinasabing mahina si Jaypee. Kaya lang, dahil sa playstyle nya, nahihirapan na si Karltzy kaka adjust. Di na sya makabalik sa assassin kakaBUHAT kay Jaypee😂 Real Talk lang ✌✌✌ Tsaka sadyang ML na ML lang talaga FCAP sa kagustuhang bumawi. Better luck next time Liquid Echo🎉
So apparently, Echo is under the Semis curse whenever MSC comes up ☠️ ONIC ID 3 - 0'd them in MSC 2023 in the semis Now, APBR ALMOST did the same treatment against Echo/TLPH, 3 - 1 in the semis. Next year...HOPEFULLY they do NOT go through such a curse again, but APBR outdrafted them as usual, APBR read them like a book. So yeah, it was bound TLPH was going to get clapped badly in this match. Not discrediting APBR, but yeah, TLPH might have gone a bit hasty this match too.
Blame the drafters and coaching staff for not picking assassin jungle for karl and prior early picks pharsa even tho mino and julian is still open. Not the players. Toxic comment section.
How can you play Assassin if your POS 5 don't know how to play Frontline heroes? Mino is his only Frontline hero and compare it on HOW Owgwen uses Mino.
@@troy5568 "does NOT rely on his roamer" - Give an example of DRAFT of CHAMPION TEAM that has an Assassin JG WITHOUT a FRONTLINE ROAMER! BASIC Drafting lang! Pano papasok Assassin kung WALANG VISION ng frontline? Ano, TYPICAL DRAFT lang sa RANK?
@@jojotebu420si karl pa talaga kulang sa hero pool eh siya yung pinakamaraming kayang gamitin na heroes sa lahat ng junglers. Coaches ang may kasalanan dyan lagi siya kinakahon sa iilang heroes. Ganyan ginawa ni trebor sa kanya noon kinahon sa utility ng isang taon
Ap bren won in games where they won in the draft which almost always had minotaur, even jaypee won when he got it. AP bren got very lucky in game 1, they got all the good picks. Ling is a no brainer, i dont know how that got through echo, he almost always gets ahead, after first turtle no matter how good the tank jungler user is. It had good damage, good cc and lots of it, they could engage back off and reengage and finish or just go all out unpunsihed, like 4 out of the 5 heroes have airborne cc, all three of the damage dealers have mobility. The flickers from julian terizla and minotaur was probably a pain to keep track and even then minotaur could counter engage or fend off anyone guaranteeing a kill for the team.
coaching is looking ur team excel skill where they are comfortable and can handle a hero in bad situation. but pushing them to use a hero which they are not familiar is putting the team on risk of losing. and most of all their weaknesses. As coach you should know that then came out with plan to make the whole team work as one. I used to play World of Warcraft and i used Death Knight my job is to eliminate any healer on second option i will assist DPS
matagal na problema ng echo ang coach nila. dapat kasi palitan na si tictac. every big tournament walang nag babago sa play style nila kaya sila nasasabayan ng ibang team. si tictac ang head coach sya sana mag plano kung ano mga gagawin 😅 mukhang ndi nag prepare eh masyadong friendly sa ibang teams nakalimutan yata yong mga players nya nahihirapan sa style nya
Mabagal na kasi mag farm ang utility jungle ngayon pinahina ng moonton kasi nga indogs say that boring daw ang utility jungle.. tapos sasamahan mo pa ng utility roam na malakas heal or protect and engaged pero noon yun pinahina na e
karltzy needs to adapt or retire....its been a while....he used akai last year vs onic ID and yesterday....he had two heores this patch...baxia and akai only.
Manood ka kasi ng mga updates para alam mo. Kinuha na nila si Coach Ceejay as their coach analyst and drafter. Nung MPL, ndi official si Coach Cjay kaya tulungan sila magdraft ni Karl. Not saying this is Coach’s fault. No one’s fault. FCAP just drafted better and played better. GG!!
Kahit naman sa rg mababasa mo na yan, lalo na kung inaanalyze mo kung bakit binan si ano halimbawa si fanny binan si fanny para walang pangabot sa pharsa Halimbawa binan si paquito para di mahirapan si arlott o si terizla
Trick kasi dyan dapat alam mo kung ano yung counter ng mga heroes kung pano mag wowork, halimbawa julian best partner nya is arlott at mino Dapat ma ban mo yun o kahit isa dun para mahirapan sila mag layering ng skill, ganun den sa chou pag nag chou kalaban mag pick ka nang mino para pag nasipa yung kakampi mo mag first skill kalang sa chou para ma cancel, alam ko yan kahit 2 months nako di nag e ml
Bai na bai e, nag tatank core pa din kahit meta na ulit assassins. Coach at fault, dapat hindi ganyan drafting sa jungle para kay Karl kahit sa scrims.
Andaming pro player dine sa com sem, sinisi ba naman yung players kung bakit ganun ang draft eh most of the time ay coach ang nagdadraft. Tsaka puro bash kay karl kung bakit tank ang pinili na jg eh ayun ang sabi ni coach eh, kahit pa gustuhin ni karl mag assasin kung ayaw ni coach hindi talaga sila pipili ng assasin
Sa hero pool parin naman ng player nag bebase ang coach sa pag draft ng hero nila eh pano kung alam ng coach na mas sanay nga talaga sa utility si Karl? Ano magagawa mo? Di naman pwedeng ipilit yun
@@zannagi5407 ayun nga ang problema sa mga pro player dito sa com sec, akala nila na kapag sinabayan ni karl mag assasin yung core ng kalaban eh sure win sila, akala nila ganun kadali magdesisyon na pick lang ng pick kahit sino magamit basta assasin
Honestly the draw was unfair.. These 2 should meet in final but i guess they want to save the viewership since id teams eliminated and Indonesian viewers are important.. No one want to watch ph vs ph finals
well Filipinos would love to see that and if you're truly a fan of mlbb you would love to watch a match up between the top teams of the strongest region in the finals
parang ibang KARLTZY makikita ng mga fans sa season 14 ng MPL. Feel ko lang. babalik to sa assassin. Feel ko lang naman. Wag kayo mangialam. mas magiging gutom na karl nakikita ko lalo M6 ang next. Goodluck nalang talaga
eh may 2 mseries siya pero lance lang talaga alam ni karl kahit nung m2 pa at iba ay mm ngayon na nerf at mm hindi na bagay sa jungle wala na siyang magawa pero pag babalik tank meta babalik yan si karl kaso malabo babalik ang utilty meta hindi na yan makapag qualify sa m6 si karl
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They deserved it tho, its a wake up call for them especially for the that fcking high ego coach
Didnt learn from the 1st two matches
I thought they're hiding strat coz they keep using baxia and akai
But boi i was so wrong
nah it was unfortunate to have 2 PH team in one bracket, they knew grandfinals will happen in semis, this is a win in my book
Karl Tzy don't play assassin.. why he left playing assassins
@@Loveisamyth4Naah. Not karls decision tho. Blame the coaching staff not karlito for not using assassin heroes.
@@user-uv5ik1lr8sok why dont u think other wah around. What if the coach didnt pick damage jungler because karl cant play it?
That just might be the extent of their strat. I remember coach lyrick being able to figure out their draft flow way back when he made content. If a solo content creator with no backup analysts can do it, imagine what a coach/analyst with plenty of resources can do. Bren really got them figured out, I guess.
I do not know if playing tank junglers is the most comfortable route for Echo, but assuming it is, the team played with their most comfortable heros, so win or lose, they did it with their best heros like what the coach from singapore said.
Regardless of the results, aim higher next time and keep the Echo express going!
Magcoach ka na Vee. Kahit nasa Blacklist ka pa, ang laki na ng ambag mo sa pagda-draft at pag-analyze.
Magiging coach yan sa Aurora Light
Nasunod naman gusto nya mag mathilda at akai bat tlao pa din ahaha,
Kung nag Lolita na lang panalo pa.ma stand pa sila mg julian tas may menatour pa
@@jamaltv6443 Sa execution na un. Mhina nman tlga yan c jaypee
talo sa akai.. dapat talaga nag switch meta rin si karl@@jamaltv6443
@@outplaygamingguild7916 aww bading ka rin siguro HAHAHAHA
echo's always like this. It takes them way too long to adapt to a new meta. When Karltzy finally adapted to the tank meta, they went on to become world champions and now a new patch drops two weeks before MSC and they're back to their old habits again. Those drafts against APBren were atrocious
Veenus analysis is goodd
Why utility jungle works on echo when they face others team, but in apbren they lose when using utility jungle
Drafting system. Pharsa on Ling 😅
I think because AP bren and echo scrim partner
Because ApBren already knows how to counter Echo's strat and can counter Echo's aggressive rotation and team fights that's why if ApBren controls the map Echo will have a hard time, micro wise Echo also wins because they always find a way to get equal trade in team fights even if they are behind from Bren but Bren early aggression is too strong and also top tier draft favored Bren that's why they won the match
Because in my opinion, PH Teams are more disciplined and have clean gameplays. So that PH Teams counter one another that other regions couldn't.
Skill, micro, and macro. In the end that decides win or loss.
Damnn Venuss nailing all the drafts moves and predict😄😄cooll
People keeps blaming the coach but coaches have to compromise in order to match the pool of the players and the best posible picks. A perfect draft is nothing if the players couldn't execute it. Karltzy was the best assassin user. Keyword, *was*
Karltzy already answered this in his stream before if management would say that he needs to play assassin then he will and would just need to spam those heroes. It could be their game rotation is not right for it. Before coming to Team Echo, Karl was still hellbent in using assassin and even in Season 9 when it was already utility Jungler meta so their manager scolded him and have him played the Utility Jungler. He’s now a team player and very unlikely that he will not follow what the Coach says. They need to adjust their game style if Karl has to play assassin. Hope they can adjust before the Snapdragon. Also, the other team drafted smartly having Julian as flex and play as mid. I was also a bit disappointed because I thought Liquid Echo has some surprise hero pick but it is what it is. Nt and GG!!!
Marunong parin sa assassin si Karl
Problema bano tank nila, asa buong team sa initiation ni Karl
Other than that, during the game against APBREN we rarely see Sanford using damage type explaner like benetta, paquito or lapu. He used sustain and tb type explaner like Terizla and arlott which doesnt suits well with tank jungler. He only use paquito first game and lost, the third game with yu zhong and win. He should have just used damage targeting backline based explaner if ECHO draft insistes on playing tank utility jungler.
Onli Epic Glory here blame anyone because they already know the results. It's a common thing for some non pro clowns
@@nicotorres12 Here comes the Yawi dckrider blaming again
In mpl they don't have analysis but they win here at MSC have analysis but the draft does not echo type aggressively
Same with Onic indo. I think echo is not yet practicing too much assassin this patch.
Kyletzy really not buying fully to the utility jg meta seasons before really helped innovate apbren this msc. So much flexibility from their draft (esp the mid julian gamble)
I swear I really like MPL PH, they are all the strongest teams (ML god) I hope I can watch it live on stage at the upcoming MPL PH!!
Comeback stronger KarlTzy
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@@angahnoir666indo server
Coach Mamshu OhMyVee!
that pharsa pick dont work but still they keep using...its better if sanji used the julian coz he can play
they lost because their draft is predictable, they always open Julian for no reason and couldn't adapt to FCAP's hero draft picks and playstyle. Sad that they lost against FCAP (since they are my pickem) but happy that a PH team is in the finals!
Idk about high micro assassins but why didn't they pick julian when it was open i am pretty sure karl can play julian or even sanji why 2nd pick pharsa
Karltzy only uses assassins against weak teams😂
Just like Indo early out no playoffs WEAK TEAMS HAHAHA
@@markanthonycombo7662his from malaysia not Indonesia based on his comment history ( just click his profile and it will show all his comment in this channel )
@@markanthonycombo7662 triggered 💀
Yes. I noticed it too.. Karl only use assassin on weak team..
Wdym? @@mr.knight1817
We need worthy opponent for APBRAN.
The match is too unmatched.
Thats ml..They got destroyed by tlph in mpl ph finals..you can't win everything
Don't worry tay got a worthy opponent
Karl is good with retri yet he doesn't wanna pick an assassin
Difference between NA fans and PH, NA fans blame teammates of their favorite players while PH fans giving credit to the winner because they picked, banned and played better
U know that lots of na fans are from asia like ph ,indo india etc.
Most of NA fans my guy is made up my indo, ph, and india mostly, i dont think malaysia added to that anymore hahaha. But from NA is less than 3-5%
Its good to see all team using assasin jungler, very aggresive game play than tank jungler
If you don't fight for what you want then it doesn't make any sense if you are sad or disappointed like this just swallow the raw truth and prepare for the next no need for sadness
Agreed. If he really want that 1M USD prize, he would've adapted to the new meta and trained to play more assassins.
Thats where karltzys confidence gap is at. He's using utility jungle because his teamates cannot keep up with the damage output that Bren can produce in such a short amount of time.Even if he likes going for assasin and secure kills and objectives, in the long run their towers will definitely wittle down because kyle can definitely kill any heroes they have 1v1. Sanford is good but against someone his level, it's 50-50 He's on always aggressive side and its good but marco can already anticipate it thus he arrives faster than benny during these objective clash where their lanes are on the opposite side of the map.Then benny, it's not his positioning that makes him very strong it's his ability to completely release a burst damage in an instant but in terms of positioning he's a level below marco and so is marco in completely bursting his opponent, he's more like kiter than a burster. In terms of midlaners I think sanji is a level ahead of pheww but in team fight, pheww opts for a poke damage rather than a clash damage because he knew that kyle can one shot anyone as an assasin if he can wittle them low enough as karltzy was forced to play as a utility jungler. The new emblems and items also gives a much more advantage as an assasin jungler than a utility jungler. Sanji likes to fight agressive in a fight. Mostly 3 combo shot to eliminate marco or pheww but his style of being a mage is completely countered by Master Owgwen. Owgwen is really good at reading on when an enemy decides to instantaneously remove a player in the map and will not hesitate to use his arsenal even if he knows the enemy might bluff because even if he missed, flaptzy always compliments his mistakes as well as owgwen for flap. As for jaypee, thats5where it contradicts the playstyle of echo. Jaypee tends to think more of how to save his teammates and make a one definite play. His play is more of a wiped set or game ending set like what chaknu is. He's really good at reading assasins but he's limited by Karl's utility. I think that if jaypee is a bitore aggressive in his playstyle, they could've caught flap and owgwen most of the time because they're the only two in bren that can actually slip up. But i dunno tho, that's just what I was during their fights. And also when they beat bren in Ph finals, it's because the synergy of phew and owgwen was too focused that his synergy with flap just became no existent.
I agree with everything you said.
Its not the player its the coach if they practice more assasin they will be confident to play it
Masyado nang paulit-ulit draft ng TLPH eh. Unlike sa APBREN na first pick nila mind game na, example is yung Julian at Roger pwedeng gawin gold lane or mid lane and pwede rin e jungle kaya nakakalito talaga.
rafaela is a solid pick on assasin meta
Galing din talaga mag analyze ni ohmyvee
Okay Lang yan marami pang Laban SAN-SAN. Atleast nataLo kayo sa kapwa nyo pinoy.
Mas compotable si karl sa utility jungler. Actually efective naman tinalo nga nila ibang team. Malakas lang talaga ang APBren sa macrohan.
TAMA LOCK NA ANG DALIRI NI KARL , KAYA TAMA LNG NA MAG UTILITY JUNGLE NA LNG SYA
Buti na lang talaga gumagana pa ang utility junglers, kung hindi, wala nang ambag si Karlito sa team niya ngayon.
@@bukojuice_11 m2 karl assassins god daw pero lance lang alam at ibang damage jungler ginagamit niya ay mm lol kyletzy is the true goat jungler completo na title niya flexible jungler pa di kagaya kay karl hero pool baxia akai barats fredrin kaso na nerf haha at wala pa siyang msc
sa player sisi kahit coaching staff ung nagdadraft, angas.
@@Neri-ix9st alam ng coach lance lang alam kaso nerf haha
Daddy jaypee in front of wise is crazy
tf are u on? vee also called bennyqt "Daddy Benny" because he is already a father.
Venus game IQ 1000
ECHO draft against APBREN this MSC just like ONIC draft against APBREN during last M5. Why they picked sustain explaner when they want to use utility jungler. It will never work on APBREN. They should just go for Damage type explaner like what they did in first game, third game and also during final MPL PH to give APBREN the hard time. Its also Sanford comfort pick and can make him combo well with Sanji.
If tank jungler wasnt invented
the whole MLBB region will bow down to karltzy
Fr karltzy carried the assasin meta on m2
Lance lang naman assassin nya tapos puro mm na
Nah
@@DmdQarThe only player to ever have 3 savages in one series. not just any mpl series but an m series and all u say is nah? lmao
@@wickeyasaka he was destroying everyone in Paquito and his ling was decent before the tank patch
Now no more tank meta in tournament, because farm too slow + no damage to let opponent aware of u except ur gold or mage good until can carry damage (dps, but still lower meta than fighter / assassin jungler now
Hnd ata nagbabasa ang echo sa update hnd na nga gagana ang tank jungler pero yun pa din ginagamit daming assassin jungler na pwd gamitin
congratulations to SRG for winning MSC 2024🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Karltzy, if anything, looked like he wanted revenge after that beatdown. Locked in. Let's go m6 Liquid!
@@lev8371 sorry to say.. You'll be disappointed.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As much as I want to defend Karl, after seeing him not adapt to the meta for that 1M USD grand prize, I lost all my trust in him. I believed in them until the last game but, not expecting much from TLPH unless Karl starts spamming assassins again.
@@Mockingbird-c3j spam assasin sa stream nya yan hindi lang talaga yun hinanda nila buong team dapat magadapt na. kayang-kaya pa nga ng baxia nya kaya binan din si sanford lang napuruhan
@@roweljohncarloalindogan4326 I meant spamming assassins in scrim and tournaments.
then karl utility jungler
Sa mga nagtataka kung bakit puro utility junglensi Karltzy, umay naman kayo. Dahil yun kau Jaypee😂 Ang liit ng hero pool nya kung saan sya nagiging effective. Outskilled sya kay Owgwen. Para ngang 5v4 ang laban eh. Lakas lang talaga ng tandem ng SanSan duo kaya nabubuhat si Jaypee. Check nyo game 5. Kahit si Vee di nya mairecommend na mag engage type hero si Jaypee kasi nga, lugi sa galawan. Di ko sinasabing mahina si Jaypee. Kaya lang, dahil sa playstyle nya, nahihirapan na si Karltzy kaka adjust. Di na sya makabalik sa assassin kakaBUHAT kay Jaypee😂
Real Talk lang ✌✌✌
Tsaka sadyang ML na ML lang talaga FCAP sa kagustuhang bumawi.
Better luck next time Liquid Echo🎉
So apparently, Echo is under the Semis curse whenever MSC comes up ☠️
ONIC ID 3 - 0'd them in MSC 2023 in the semis
Now, APBR ALMOST did the same treatment against Echo/TLPH, 3 - 1 in the semis.
Next year...HOPEFULLY they do NOT go through such a curse again, but APBR outdrafted them as usual, APBR read them like a book. So yeah, it was bound TLPH was going to get clapped badly in this match.
Not discrediting APBR, but yeah, TLPH might have gone a bit hasty this match too.
@@Meow_Meow_Hurts_Real_Bad what curse???? They just choked again.. 2x CHOKE CHAMPION in MSC.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣KARLTZY THE YOUNG CHOKE 😂😂😂😂😂
Blame the drafters and coaching staff for not picking assassin jungle for karl and prior early picks pharsa even tho mino and julian is still open. Not the players. Toxic comment section.
mali ka si karl dahilan dahil sila natalo
How can you play Assassin if your POS 5 don't know how to play Frontline heroes?
Mino is his only Frontline hero and compare it on HOW Owgwen uses Mino.
sisi nanaman kay jaypee 😂 d matanggap lockers na nga si karl e
Oh wow, I thought your so-called "child prodigy" does NOT rely on his roamer, and could make plays ON HIS OWN for his own teammates? 🤓
@@troy5568 "does NOT rely on his roamer" - Give an example of DRAFT of CHAMPION TEAM that has an Assassin JG WITHOUT a FRONTLINE ROAMER!
BASIC Drafting lang!
Pano papasok Assassin kung WALANG VISION ng frontline?
Ano, TYPICAL DRAFT lang sa RANK?
@@kamotetops1572kasalanan talaga ni karl kaya sila natalo kulang sa hero pool tas lockers pa
@@jojotebu420si karl pa talaga kulang sa hero pool eh siya yung pinakamaraming kayang gamitin na heroes sa lahat ng junglers. Coaches ang may kasalanan dyan lagi siya kinakahon sa iilang heroes. Ganyan ginawa ni trebor sa kanya noon kinahon sa utility ng isang taon
Karltzy hypercarry era is over RT
Same msc 2023 mpl ph winner with 4-0 but lost to semi in msc 2024
Ap bren won in games where they won in the draft which almost always had minotaur, even jaypee won when he got it. AP bren got very lucky in game 1, they got all the good picks. Ling is a no brainer, i dont know how that got through echo, he almost always gets ahead, after first turtle no matter how good the tank jungler user is. It had good damage, good cc and lots of it, they could engage back off and reengage and finish or just go all out unpunsihed, like 4 out of the 5 heroes have airborne cc, all three of the damage dealers have mobility. The flickers from julian terizla and minotaur was probably a pain to keep track and even then minotaur could counter engage or fend off anyone guaranteeing a kill for the team.
No one can challenge kyletezy and kairi on assassin no matter what team the face
Kairi is not in the same realm as Kyletzy.
Who can dare pick assasins vs the Greatest mid laner ,exp laner of all time + Best jungler in the world+Owgen and the best gold lane super marco?
best exp is still edward lmao it's just that flap has the better teammates now
@@LizVier edward lol. wag mo na ipilit
He scared
Lahat na lang Best. Eme mo. 🤣
Edward and Sanford are better than Flap lol
I always think Bren better than Echo
This streamer is good. I think he can be a pro player one day 🗿🗿
I think he will be a 3x mpl ph championship, m series and see games championship in the future right? HAHAHHSHSHSHSHS
coaching is looking ur team excel skill where they are comfortable and can handle a hero in bad situation. but pushing them to use a hero which they are not familiar is putting the team on risk of losing. and most of all their weaknesses. As coach you should know that then came out with plan to make the whole team work as one. I used to play World of Warcraft and i used Death Knight my job is to eliminate any healer on second option i will assist DPS
Sayang nga, kung nagdamage core sana...
LIQUID ECHO ONLY STRONG IN GRAND FINALS NOT IN THE LADDER MATCHES
Julian to OP that's why I can't use my main anymore😢
Yee TBH it's jus the Akai Hyper that doesn't work
Blame Mara, she sold.
Coach ang may ka gustohan na mag tank jungler sya bat sya na sisi
Kyltzy gapped kairi in utility jungle and now gapped karltzy in assassin jungle. Kyle really is a complete jungler.
di nila kaya baxia ni karl nirespect ban nga di lang sinabayan ng tlph assasin picks
LaosTzy... the most hyped one trick pony in MPL PH
matagal na problema ng echo ang coach nila. dapat kasi palitan na si tictac. every big tournament walang nag babago sa play style nila kaya sila nasasabayan ng ibang team. si tictac ang head coach sya sana mag plano kung ano mga gagawin 😅 mukhang ndi nag prepare eh masyadong friendly sa ibang teams nakalimutan yata yong mga players nya nahihirapan sa style nya
Mabagal na kasi mag farm ang utility jungle ngayon pinahina ng moonton kasi nga indogs say that boring daw ang utility jungle.. tapos sasamahan mo pa ng utility roam na malakas heal or protect and engaged pero noon yun pinahina na e
It's all karltzy fault
SanSan duo NALANG sana nag adjust sa pick.
Like Julian SI Sanji at arlot SI Sanford at Akai or baxia SI karl.
Let's all be honest, karltzy is not good in assassin.
karltzy needs to adapt or retire....its been a while....he used akai last year vs onic ID and yesterday....he had two heores this patch...baxia and akai only.
He’s not the drafter brother,ask that to their coach
@@pansy5333sabay hndi n sya ung ngdadraft.. Samantalang nung mpl pinangangalandakan nila si the young choke ung ngdadraft..😂😂😂😂
Manood ka kasi ng mga updates para alam mo. Kinuha na nila si Coach Ceejay as their coach analyst and drafter. Nung MPL, ndi official si Coach Cjay kaya tulungan sila magdraft ni Karl. Not saying this is Coach’s fault. No one’s fault. FCAP just drafted better and played better. GG!!
@@pansy5333 coz drafter/coach knows karltzy cant play assassin.
@@pansy5333 cuz karl can only play lance but got nerf even m2 karl only uses lance and mm jungler lol
buti pa Geekfam naniniwala sa proseso
Prio nila parsa kahit open pa Julian at mino
be humble is the key
Ang galing tlga ng veewise ng drafting alam na alam hhaha😂
Kahit naman sa rg mababasa mo na yan, lalo na kung inaanalyze mo kung bakit binan si ano halimbawa si fanny binan si fanny para walang pangabot sa pharsa
Halimbawa binan si paquito para di mahirapan si arlott o si terizla
Kaya nung dinagdagan banning sa mythic tuwang tuwa ako kasi mas madaling basahin
Trick kasi dyan dapat alam mo kung ano yung counter ng mga heroes kung pano mag wowork, halimbawa julian best partner nya is arlott at mino
Dapat ma ban mo yun o kahit isa dun para mahirapan sila mag layering ng skill, ganun den sa chou pag nag chou kalaban mag pick ka nang mino para pag nasipa yung kakampi mo mag first skill kalang sa chou para ma cancel, alam ko yan kahit 2 months nako di nag e ml
ML IS VERY EASY - COACH DUCK
3:20 lumabas pagkalalaki ni idol vee Haha
Bai na bai e, nag tatank core pa din kahit meta na ulit assassins. Coach at fault, dapat hindi ganyan drafting sa jungle para kay Karl kahit sa scrims.
Sayang yung premyo. Pambili pa sana yun ng mga bagay na gusto mo na hindi mo kailangan. 😂😂😂
Tingnan mo blogs nila, kung wala sila pambili😂
@@likelegit7010 Talino mo. 😂😂😂
ECHO didn't play with their own self and their Real Echo Style Game.. They just play safe thats why they Lost..
damı mong alam
@@xrizbira madami kang wala kang alam
ok serious question. is veenus a dude or girl
parang daming naninisi kay karl ahh kasi d nila maintindihan meta ng echo, need mag adjust ni karl sa tank kasi ang damage nila is benny sanford sanji
pag nananalo Liquid Echo ng MPL, natatalo sila sa MSC eh. parang nung Season 11 lang, panalo MPL na-sweep ng Onic sa Semis ng MSC
yn din tanong ko 4 games wla pick julian tpos 4 games nasa bren julian
Utility isn't work against APBR. ONIC can't even do shiii
Laki pa naman ng prize pool iyaq hahaha
Ok lng yan may mauuwi parin namang pera kahit talo
Di pa naman katapusan ng mundo sobrang dami pang intl tournament. Di mo masabi baka last na intl tournament win ng bren na yan hahahah
Bruh, KarlTzy only use assassin on weak team like indo
No Yawi No Trophy
Karlt doesn't have confidence to play assasin against strong team
I don't think anyone can go assassin vs a team like FC fking bren
@@AshikurRahmanRifat its trui tho, but at least he should try since utility didn't work out
Coach come on. Ling open you give to opponent. Soooo many times.
BREN LANG MALAKAS
Echo coach noob
Is not coach is how you play the game😂😂😂 your noob gm
you be the coach then
Andaming pro player dine sa com sem, sinisi ba naman yung players kung bakit ganun ang draft eh most of the time ay coach ang nagdadraft. Tsaka puro bash kay karl kung bakit tank ang pinili na jg eh ayun ang sabi ni coach eh, kahit pa gustuhin ni karl mag assasin kung ayaw ni coach hindi talaga sila pipili ng assasin
Sa hero pool parin naman ng player nag bebase ang coach sa pag draft ng hero nila eh pano kung alam ng coach na mas sanay nga talaga sa utility si Karl? Ano magagawa mo? Di naman pwedeng ipilit yun
@@zannagi5407 ayun nga ang problema sa mga pro player dito sa com sec, akala nila na kapag sinabayan ni karl mag assasin yung core ng kalaban eh sure win sila, akala nila ganun kadali magdesisyon na pick lang ng pick kahit sino magamit basta assasin
walang paltos retri ni karl pero gg sa teamfight talaga hays
Just imagine play high tournament but use jungle tank.. Boring duhhh
Why Indonesia,Thailand and Philippines men sound feminine. They don't have deep voice like men should be.
Ehh pano mananalo yung core ng echo tatlong hero lang ang alam gamitin Akal,Baxsia,Fedrin ayan iyak tuloy
Nagtatago NG strat echo para sa mpl ph s14 kaya sila nag patalo
Itago nlng nila.. 😂😂😂Karlito the young choke 😂😂🤣
Gago 😂
Bro said TLPH would rather throw away 1,000,000 $ ☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@Mr_niceguy19 ayoko sana maging toxic sa ph teams kaso Ang toxic NG echofans eh
@@HonerBadger49 toxic din nman ECHOKE kaya OK lng.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They're tired of winning😁😁😁😁
Ohmyp33n1s giving tips with his 5 hero pool. Crazy
Honestly the draw was unfair.. These 2 should meet in final but i guess they want to save the viewership since id teams eliminated and Indonesian viewers are important.. No one want to watch ph vs ph finals
Buti nga ngharap agad kasi yung ibang country isa lang representative. Magiging mas spicy ang match kpg magkaibang region mgkaharap sa finals
how is that unfair? they used a draw, right?
@@kaguyathepasserby7651 draw it literally scripted. I guess they don't want pH vs pH final
well Filipinos would love to see that and if you're truly a fan of mlbb you would love to watch a match up between the top teams of the strongest region in the finals
@@coldbread8313how's that scripted? Can u prove it
iyak si SANFERRRRD.-manJean 😂
Ganito kasi ang nangyare see more.....
Skill issue man stop trying come up with excuses. AP just better
parang ibang KARLTZY makikita ng mga fans sa season 14 ng MPL. Feel ko lang. babalik to sa assassin. Feel ko lang naman. Wag kayo mangialam.
mas magiging gutom na karl nakikita ko lalo M6 ang next. Goodluck nalang talaga
eh may 2 mseries siya pero lance lang talaga alam ni karl kahit nung m2 pa at iba ay mm ngayon na nerf at mm hindi na bagay sa jungle wala na siyang magawa pero pag babalik tank meta babalik yan si karl kaso malabo babalik ang utilty meta hindi na yan makapag qualify sa m6 si karl
@@nome-ou9ky He can play Ling
@@xrizbira AGAINTS NOBODIES
@@nome-ou9ky but he can
@@xrizbira he cant
Ano pa bang gusto nyong gawin ni karl, talo na, pero expect nyo na babawi sila sa M6
Julian ngpahirap sa kanila