This is sadly an extremely biased panel discussion. I am particularly not a fan of panel discussions and this Bengali dominated discussion reinstates my disbelief in them. Gorkhaland's history is a century-old. Our people have struggled to fight for their rights which have been continually denied to us. The recent linguistic imposition was probably only a spark that set off an agitation that was never doused over decades of history. Calling it a BJP stunt, a GJM move or anything close to that is foolish and shows ignorance of the actual foundations of the statehood demand. Also stating that the creation of the state is not "viable" enough and giving vague reasons like the absence of a concrete economy to support Gorkhaland resonates with the typical Bengali line of thought. The economy, infrastructure and everything else that is frail in the hills is because the TMC government never gave it to us in the first place. We need Gorkhaland for all the right reasons and we will not settle with a jugaad like the power distribution scheme that is being suggested by one of the panelists. Just look at the complete dissimilarity between Kolkata and Darjeeling in any aspect possible. The two lands are polar opposites like chalk and cheese and therefore cannot be run by a common administration. North Bengal is a valuable resource for Kolkata. Tea, timber, tourism, education and many more industries flourish in the hills. This is what Mamata does not want to let go of and is exactly what the Centre should make her do. Even if this current movement is quelled, it will arise again some other time and will keep doing so till its purpose is fulfilled.
Kesang Tshering Bhutia Dear, we understand your problem don't worry. I am from Maharashtra and i recently visited darjee and people are cute and nice i must say. But people should not have resorted to violence just because of language issue. We are not with mamta banarjee . she is a bitch i understand. And my point is what will you achieve by separate state? Have you all thought practically here on how it will like? This is gonna be the smallest state and still heavily dependent on bengal for most of the resources. And you will suffer anarchy of GJM workers because there will be no balance of power. You will all have to bow down to Bimal gurung and their gunda giri if one doesn't agree with his policies. So what the panel is suggesting is balance of power. Like having more autonomous administration. Also i saw negligence from gorkhaland administration who weren't even building roads properly and beauty is simply degrading.
Darjeeling is Linguistically+Culturally+Socially+Gastronomically+Ethnically+Geographically different from West Bengal. The people there deserved a separate state.
Sumit Pal Not 1000 India has more than million state right? Creating Telangana, Uttarakhand, Chhattisgarh and etc has divided India into thousands of state right? That's what you mean to say? Gorkhas are not some small trible group that people can ignore. We Gorkhas have done much more for our country as other before us. But if you think giving Gorkhaland to Gorkhas will make 1000 states than be it. It's our right and not yours.
Formation of Telangana, Uttarakhand and Chhatisgarh had nothing to do with demand for ethnic exclusivity. This demand will just not just end with Gorkhaland. Soon trouble will begin with Sikkim, then people will identify themselves with Nepal.
From 2:48 minutes in video, bengali panel members clearly states that, "Darjeeling was not part of Bengal before Independence". Then why was it merged with Bengal is main question. Statehood is viable, but BJP is to be held responsible, as they are quietly watching.
@robinhood sherwood.. Hahaha aren't you a creature... You foolish, arrogant little creature....You pathetic human.I know truth can be harsh. Hard to sallow.
Ｍ. ＭＡＨＡＪＡＮ Yes I am depressed.. How can't I be depressed knowing that my nebor are these stupid people..ruining history and friendship for both the country.
whether its lack of information or what, please Media have some information before bringing the man in the Broadcast....you called him HB chettri, do try to respect! he is Doctorate , so its fyi....he is Dr.Harka Bahadur Chettri..
The territory of Darjeeling was never a part of West Bengal (post Independence), never did it belong to Nepal neither Bhutan and the people as well, howbeit they conquered and captured it, that does not mean that they had owned it or can own it. Darjeeling was part of Sikkim an indigenous tract, way before the British arrived in this place & formed the Bengal Province (pre-independence). After annexation of Darjeeling from Sikkim Raja to East India Company by the deed of grant on Feb 1, 1835 also known as “dubious grant.” And the formation of District-Darjeeling by 1866 the territory was designated as non-regulated district. Then, later without the change in its literal or primary meaning of the word “non-regulated district” it became Scheduled district then to backward tracts and again it made it back to the old expression of “Scheduled Area” with addition of “partially secluded area” or “partially excluded area” by the Government of India Act of 1935, (Amiya K Samantha, 2000), which is the blue print of the Constitution of India. This term which has survived till now, which was also mentioned by Mr. D.S Gurung in the Constitution Assembly debate, now is in under the Article 244(1) of Fifth Schedule of the Constitution of India in which the Governor has the supreme power over this land, yes of course it still exist, the Development Boards and District-Kalimpong is signed by the Governor and granted by his ordinance which are his Constitutional Powers/Provision, this division is made to protect the indigenous people who are incapable of protecting themselves from the economic, social and cultural domination of the outsiders. The term/meaning of ‘excluded’ is confusing and hard to interpret, the closet and the oldest definition can be the non-Indian status of Darjeeling back then or now or not, (hope that I just didn’t book my ticket for sedition.) Of course we the people of Darjeeling & Kalimpong (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration Area) are the “Children of the Soil” it is our innate indigenous right for our own self-determination with separate administration and separate state in the Constitution of India with the right to land in the Constitution which is also known as the Supreme Law of the Land.
The basic point about Gorkhaland is IDENTITY and NOT DEVELOPMENT. You should be very clear at the outset, that bringing in the talk of DEVELOPMENT in the way of IDENTITY is to DEVIATE from the core issue and to OVERSIMPLIFY and GENERALIZE the issues that the Gorkhas are trying to place before the nation. .
Q. Why are people in Darjeeling demanding Gorkhaland? A.The demand for a separate administrative unit (separate state in today's term) for the Darjeeling region had started as early as 1907. However, the influx of Bangladeshi refugees starting in 1965 and later state sponsored illegal immigrants from Bangladesh post-1971 for vote bank by subsequent West Bengal governments led to marginalization of the ethnic Gorkha, Kamtapuri and the Rajbanshi communities of the region. The demand for Gorkhaland is a demand to protect the identity, culture, history, traditions and the rich bond of people from Darjeeling region, which they share with their land. Furthermore, the Gorkhas from the Darjeeling region have continued to be labeled by the fascist and state sponsored Bengali organizations such as Bangla O Bangla Bhasa Bachao Samity, Amra Bangali, Jan Jagaran Morcha, Jan Chetna Morcha as illegal immigrants and the demand for Gorkhaland illegal. They have rendered the ethnic Gorkha people as an intruder in his/her own ancestral lands. This has caused widespread socio-economic and political marginalization of the Gorkhas. All these factors have resulted in the Gorkhas being under-represented, stereotyped and communally discriminated in almost all sectors. Moreover, Bengal has always been colonial in its approach to this region. The large revenues collected from Darjeeling region have been used to develop other parts of Bengal, while neglecting even the basic infrastructure in the region. Case in point: the National Highway 55, which used to be the artery connecting the hills of Darjeeling to the rest of India, has been closed due to land slide since 2009 and the West Bengal government has done nothing to rebuild it. Last year alone, there were over 20 malnutrition related death (death due to starvation) reported from the Dooars region and yet the West Bengal government did nothing to alleviate the sufferings of the people in the region. Q. Is the proposed Gorkhaland region economically viable? A.The proposed Gorkhaland region is rich in bio-diversity, scenic views, hydro potentials, tourism, NTFP, Tea and numerous other resources. Darjeeling Tea has been accorded the Geographical Indicator status recently by the WTO, which has caused the price of Darjeeling Tea to double in the world market. The demand for tea from the Dooars region is also at an all time high. Even the most conservative estimates put the revenue potential from tea, tourism and hydro from the proposed Gorkhaland area at over 1600 Crores per annum. It is estimated that the revenues from Tea and Tourism alone will make the proposed Gorkhaland region a revenue surplus state. The revenues collected from hydro development, NTFP, cross-border trades and other resources will make the proposed state of Gorkhaland as one of the most economically vibrant states in India.
Rajkumar, sorry to say, but Bangalis are land thieves, taking away a neighbor's land on the pretext of managing administrative function.. Darjeeling region belongs to Sikkim and it will be remerged again.
What led to revival? Very simple answer. Because it is people's aspirations. 99% of people want it. Go and conduct your own research on the ground and talk. This will never go away until you give us our this constitutional right.
This is Debate or what ? This west bengal media's are all biased since dhulagarh riot, malda riot. SInce india can have a Goa a very small state, sikkim which is smaller as compared to proposed state of gorkhaland . This is all possible we all indians are with gorkhas
It's all blah blah blah, very poor in content...Balmiki prasadji is talking full cliche known stuff, only circling around unending known things. Very poor content. Sikkim is economically better off than Darjeeling, it was pulled into poverty by poor governance by Kolkata. West Bengal with around 9+ Cr population should be anyway divided for better management .Ya i am not happy with guruang, people will through him out, if he is not performing well..when uttarkhand why not Gorkhaland
On india if tamil people are speaking tamil so Tamil nadu created, Assam people are speaking Assamese so Assam created , bengeli people are speaking Bengali than west bengal created. Than why not Gorkhaland on India.. here in India more than 6 core's Gorkha are staying than I feel Gorkhaland should to be creat..Jai Hind
ujal subba west Bengal was always theree no one created it learn history Bengal was the centre of india,,,,,,,,😎😎😎😎thats whyy we don't want to divide our land its totally showing hate towards Bengali
Q. Is the demand for Gorkhaland illegal? A. No, to demand for a separate state is the democratic right of every Indian citizen, and the formation of new states is enshrined in our constitution. Article 3 of the Indian constitution specifically deals with the issues regarding the formation of new states: Article 3. Formation of new States and alteration of areas, boundaries or names of existing States-Parliament may by law- (a) form a new State by separation of territory from any State or by uniting two or more States or parts of States or by uniting any territory to a part of any State; (b) increase the area of any State; (c) diminish the area of any State; (d) alter the boundaries of any State; (e) alter the name of any State: Hence, the demand for Gorkhaland is a legitimate demand. Q. Why is West Bengal opposed to the formation of Gorkhaland? A. The state of West Bengal is one of the most economically backward states in India. Even though, it is the 5th largest in terms of its size, but due to the high debt burden of over Rs. 2.5 lakh Crores, West Bengal is practically bankrupt and is highly dependent on the Central Government and the revenues generated from the proposed Gorkhaland region for its sustenance and economic survival. A conservative estimate indicated that if the proposed Gorkhaland state is formed, West Bengal is expected to lose over 40% of its revenue stream. So despite all the rhetoric stating, "Darjeeling is Bengal's Abhinno Aanga," Bengal is scared of loosing its hen, which is currently laying the golden eggs. It is scared of losing the cash cow that has continued to discount the development of Bengal's other regions over and over since independence. Further, Bengal has always held a parochial, colonial and discriminatory attitude towards the proposed Gorkhaland region and continues to do so. Late. Subash Chakraborty a Minister in the CPI(M) Government had said to the Gorkhas "khetey diyechi, sutey chai?" [Meaning: "we have given you food to eat, now you want a space to sleep?"] Hinting that the Bengalis have been benevolent towards the Gorkhas in allowing the Gorkhas to live in Bengal, while ungraciously ignoring the fact that the Gorkhas are ethnic to the land. Similarly, many Bengali scholars [such as Sumanta Sen of The Telegraph] and politicians [such as Dr. Mukund Majumdar and Mr. Ashok Bhattacharjee] continue to call the ethnic Gorkhas foreigners and intruders, which gives a sense of insecurity amongst the ethnic Gorkhas - thus, the demand for Gorkhaland.
question of population makes no difference to create a new separate state.Can have many examples to refute the statement "Isn't viable because of small population."
India needs to first stop interferring in Nepal's politics directly or via its shameless political agents before quashing demands for gorkhaland statehood.
In a debate in NDTV recently, BJP spokesperson said that carving GL would be not be a viable option because the state would become a liability for the center (economically). That's a major point from apolitical point of view. Secondly the Bengal election is up for in 2 years so BJP doesn't want to upset the Bengali pseudo chauvinism. That's why during the NDTV interview the BJP spokesprson used the word "with sympathy" they will look into the matter.I completely agree with the ex governor. The state govt. , the central govt. And the parties of the hills must do a public discussion and be a little more discrete with the people of Darjeeling and North Bengal how the political and geographical decisions must be implemented. I think more apolitical non-nationalist people must be inducted from the hills for harnessing productive decision. At the end whether it stays or divides from Bengal doesn't really matter people must be benefitted from the decision and that should be the only aim of all the three fronts. PEOPLE'S DEVELOPMENT.
Every expert mentions that the Darjeeling region was a part of Sikkim, at that time Sikkim was another country, but since Sikkim has become the 22nd State of India why cant the top politicians of India reunify the region because after India has become independent, it has claimed Goa and Andaman Nicobar but within its own country India has not reunified Sikkim and Darjeeling. How fair is it to keep two parts of the same land in two States ? Bangal was given responsibility of looking after the administrative function only and taking advantage of this Bangal has made its own Absorbed Act which actually means taking over a neighbor's land. So the honest solution is to reunify Darjeeling with Sikkim and declare it Bharatiya Gorkhali State. This panel consists of Bangalis who naturally wants to discourage separating Darjeeling from its clutches, because Bangal is profitting huge amount of wealth from Darjeeling without having to spend money. The HONEST solution is REUNIFICATION with Sikkim its own principal mainland. Otherwise what were the points of claiming Goa and Andaman Nicobar Island by India ?
this is to clarify that darjeeling was not the part of sikim, it was the part of nepal, it was under east india company according to sugauli treaty, and when british left india, darjeeling was not returned to nepal
Q. Who are Gorkhas in the Indian context? A. The 'Gorkhas' in the Indian context are Indian citizens of Nepali ethnicity, who live across the length and breadth of India. The term 'Gorkha' in the Indian context is used to differentiate the Indian citizens of Nepali ethnicity from the citizens of Nepal, who prefer to be called 'Nepalese.' Many a time, people mistake the Indian 'Gorkhas' with Nepalese 'Gorkhali'. It is to be noted that in terms of Nepal, 'Gorkhali' refers to the people from the 'Gorkha' region. However, the use of the term 'Gorkha' in the Indian context is very different than in Nepal's context. Therefore, the term 'Gorkha' refers to different groups of people depending on the country they are being used in reference to. Q. Did the Gorkhas immigrate to India? A. Majority of the people who identify themselves as 'Gorkhas' in India are sons and daughters of the soil, and their forefathers 'came with the land.' They did not immigrate to India. However, it is well recognized that there are many immigrants from Nepal, who have also settled in India, post-independence.
Q. What historical claims does West Bengal have over the Darjeeling-Dooars region? A.Ironically None! There is no shared history between the Darjeeling-Dooars region, and the rest of West Bengal till the year 1935. The only common thread that connects Darjeeling and the rest of Bengal prior to 1935 is that they shared a common Governor (for administrative ease). It is interesting to note that following the partition of Bengal in 1905, the administration of Darjeeling was handed over to the Bhagalpur Division in Bihar Presidency between 1905-1907, following which a demand for a separate administrative unit for the Darjeeling-Dooars region (a la Separate State in today's term) was first raised by the Hillmen's Association in 1907, making the demand for a separate state constituting the hills, Terai and Dooars region the oldest demand for statehood in India. The only reason as to why such a demand was not entertained by the British Government, is because the Darjeeling and Dooars region were already declared a "non-regulated area", which meant that the rules and laws developed for the rest of India would not be automatically applicable to the region. Q. Why is Darjeeling a part of West Bengal? A.The Darjeeling region only became a part of West Bengal Presidency in the year 1935, when it was required to send an elected member to the Bengal Legislative Assembly. It was done purely for the then administrative ease, as the British could control the Darjeeling region better from Bengal than from Bhagalpur in Bihar.
Everybody knows that the current trouble region in the north of India was carved out from Sikkim when it was a separate country. And it is right to say that when India made Sikkim its 22nd State the politicians should have been honest and the top politicians of India should reunify what part of the region was displaced from the principal land namely Sikkim. What Mamta is doing is that she is dividing the people into different tribes which is an effort to disintegrate them from common language Nepali and common name Gorkgalis. Therefore this troubled region must be reunified with the original mainland Sikkim which is already a separate State away from Bengal. That is the point every politician in India is forgetting or purposely ignoring because the more cunning and influential Bengali politicians are more interested in suppressing and dominating the Gorkhalis on the petty pretext of Strategic Security Region where as the same Gorkhalis are defending the whole of India. Bangal keeps talking about tourism and so on, which clearly shows that Bangal is only concerned about earning revenue without spending anything. Lack of development is not the main issue of the Gorkhalis as pointed out by all Bengali speakers. It is being ruled, suppressed and dominated in their own land where 5-6 generations have lived but are being ruled, suppressed and dominated by another ethnicity Bangalis who act as if they are the lords over the Gorkhas of the region. .
Nepalese frm Darjeeling district owns their own land n they didnt migrate frm Nepal. as Nepal had to give away one third of its land to British India under Treaty of Sugauli but that doesn't mean Nepal lost to British. jai Gorkhaland!
Seems to be a biased panel, probably all bengali chauvinists. Rajya Sabha TV shouldn't do such one-sided discussions. Both sides on the issue should have been represented.
Darjeeling is not a part of India and people of Nepal says Darjeeling is the part of Nepal Historically Darjeeling is not part of India or Nepal now we have to prove ourself who we are and why we are I' am not fell proud be Indian cause indian Government can't give us justice and we always forgive Bengal government
Jai gorkhas it is our land so we can fight until to out last breath...Mamta can't do anything she can win only by talking but she don't know the how much the gorkhas power are strong....i hope when she I'll die she will never get one drop of Water also for drink..
1. It will start with a demand for a separate state. Let's say it is met. 2. Then the leaders in order to retain their mass appeal will continue to mobilise people and threaten other communities to vacate and leave gorkhaland. 3. Other communities will flee gorkhaland in fear. In retribution, gorkhas in other parts of India will also face the heat and some may be forced out of other states. 4. GJM would not mind this situation as for them populism means more votes and power. But people, Gorkhas and others will suffer. 5. Soon, people would raise flags of Nepal in Gorkhaland against India asking for secession or separate rights (in the lines of Article 370 or ILP) 5. China/Pakistan/North-east insurgents would support these people to take up arms and terrorism will take root. 6. More hardline organisations will rise up and seize power in Gorkhaland first running a parallel govt be exhorting money from tea-garden owners. 7. The Indian army will hunt these people and there would be many innocents would come in the crossfire. Anti-India sentiment will rise in Gorkhaland. Anti-gorkha sentiment will rise in India. 8. We will have another Kashmir-like situation. This is a mouth-watering scenario for Pak / China. Right now BJP is supporting this in their politics against Mamata, but history will not forgive them.
gorkhland is not demand of dargiling people it is demand of all gorkhas who r living all over the india we are more than 1.5 carore u r talking abkut only dargiling what for us...????
Indian politics dada gari group ..??? Indian government not accordingly give us reality , British time it was careless and there's bangeli politics put devided rules.. Indian government only formality..and so much curruption ..
Take the public Gorkhalies opinion poll by central not by states. The demand of Gorkhalies are very must rightful. It's very viable teas timber turriost educational hub international market we think like other help newly form states central donnot negeleted Darjeeling .Other international boundary states like Arunachal Mizoram Nagaland sikkim .too form but no question for national threads. There is deep conspiracy for Gorkhalies to totally extinct Gorkhalies from India. Now they are refugee in their own land .THEY are the native people's of that particular land. but Bengal govt policies settled other community maximum Bengalies and other no political power through language imposement in Darjeeling. This is the voice of colonialism by Bengalies and neglecting behaviour of govt of India i Indian. We are 1.t crores. Gorkhalies .If teas are in crisis tell the owner to leaves the world class twas then Gorkhalies show how it flourish by ownership of Gorkhaland.Its not a politics it the voice of deprive Gorkhalies . Donnot fool all Indian with your false statement .You people are diverting the issues .This time every pages is going to open.Where is Gorkhalies participant in your debates. Fooling all Indians. What about Nagaland Mizoram Go a. and jharkhand and about newly form Tegengana. why not Gorkhaland Bangal has already West Bengal why so greedy if Gorkhaland are useless. Give Gorkhalues Gorkhaland they will show how should development is. IT'S THE CONSPIRECIES COME WITH HOMEWORK. WITH BENGAL GOVT.. WE HAVE SEEN 108 TEAS OF BANGAL GOVT THURD CLASS POLICIES IT LIKE ELEPHANT TUSK .SHOWING ONE AND EATING BY OTHER. NOW FED UP AND IT'S PICECS MAKES MAKES NATIVE PEOPME REFUGEE AND FOREIGNER TERRORIST. NOW IT'S INDIAN HORKHALUES RESPISIBLITY TO MAKE ITS OUR STATES OTHERWISE THESE INSECT EXTINCT OUR NAME LIKE DNOSE
Recently visited beautiful Darjeeling in may. People were so cute and nice! Can't believe that they can be so violent! But i agree that Darjeeling is not paid enough attention by bengal government. The beauty of Darjeeling is going down year by year. The road conditions were bad. But people if Darjeeling should also remember that statehood won't do any good for them. Because it being to be almost smallest state, politician like Bimal gurung will behave like goonda and rule like an anarchist over Darjeeling. There will be no one to balance GJM people. I don't understand what good will it do by achieving separate state.
what not good will it do by achieving separate state by friend....demands of separate state is not something new my friends let me remind you and the biggest rows always start over the smallest thing.
brother nw on gorkhas wil nvr vote fr bloody TMC goons it was just a municipal elections higher percentage of population in hills is concentrated to gram panchayats and claiming victory in a small place is not a victory you people have lost in Siliguri municipal elections your own place
Francis Xavier Sherpa yes brother u r rights in next election no single vote should go to TMC or CPM.bcos. they're all same pond fish. what TMC is doing, same thing CPM will do.
Increasingly i am realizing that Nepalese are delusional. Have you seen the size of your country on world map. what is that Nepal is known for in the world? Whats Nepal's GDP? Whats your economical size? You cant live in past glories of 200-300 year old and claim something that is Indian as yours. Go ask the people in Darjeeling and Sikkim, do they want to be Indians or be with Nepal. You will get your answer. Misdirected ego is not healthy.
Sikkim was not part of India till 1975 n Darjeeling was not part of India till 1947. Forget about Bengal. Gorkhas r in darjeeling from kirat period with own diff identity limboo, Rai, lepcha. N others from gorkha dynasty rule of late 1700. Now it's ruled by Bangladeshi settler after 1947 n 1971. U were free to not include already gorkha majority Darjeeling to India in 1947 n Bengal in 1956. No one forced u .
History poran dada ki kora Darjeeling alo 1815 aga Kotai chilo ganan na ki Many people are say Bengalis are very intelligent and brilliant but ,they don't no history of Darjeeling Tarai duars and say Darjeeling is our land. 😂😂😂😂
British did not annexed Darjeeling from ur mirjafar n mirkashim. it was annexed from Nepal n Sikkim. They donot live in ur Bengal. Rather Bangladeshi settler live in their place merged with Bengal in 1956.
This is sadly an extremely biased panel discussion. I am particularly not a fan of panel discussions and this Bengali dominated discussion reinstates my disbelief in them. Gorkhaland's history is a century-old. Our people have struggled to fight for their rights which have been continually denied to us. The recent linguistic imposition was probably only a spark that set off an agitation that was never doused over decades of history. Calling it a BJP stunt, a GJM move or anything close to that is foolish and shows ignorance of the actual foundations of the statehood demand. Also stating that the creation of the state is not "viable" enough and giving vague reasons like the absence of a concrete economy to support Gorkhaland resonates with the typical Bengali line of thought. The economy, infrastructure and everything else that is frail in the hills is because the TMC government never gave it to us in the first place. We need Gorkhaland for all the right reasons and we will not settle with a jugaad like the power distribution scheme that is being suggested by one of the panelists. Just look at the complete dissimilarity between Kolkata and Darjeeling in any aspect possible. The two lands are polar opposites like chalk and cheese and therefore cannot be run by a common administration. North Bengal is a valuable resource for Kolkata. Tea, timber, tourism, education and many more industries flourish in the hills. This is what Mamata does not want to let go of and is exactly what the Centre should make her do. Even if this current movement is quelled, it will arise again some other time and will keep doing so till its purpose is fulfilled.
Kesang Tshering Bhutia Dear, we understand your problem don't worry. I am from Maharashtra and i recently visited darjee and people are cute and nice i must say. But people should not have resorted to violence just because of language issue. We are not with mamta banarjee . she is a bitch i understand.
And my point is what will you achieve by separate state? Have you all thought practically here on how it will like?
This is gonna be the smallest state and still heavily dependent on bengal for most of the resources.
And you will suffer anarchy of GJM workers because there will be no balance of power. You will all have to bow down to Bimal gurung and their gunda giri if one doesn't agree with his policies.
So what the panel is suggesting is balance of power. Like having more autonomous administration.
Also i saw negligence from gorkhaland administration who weren't even building roads properly and beauty is simply degrading.
Kesang Tshering Bhutia.. agree to it brother... A very biased panel of guests..
hobgoblin1216 Marathi r great people's, like Shivaji the great.They r not like Bengali selfish people's.
Kesang Tshering Bhutia yes
Darjeeling is Linguistically+Culturally+Socially+Gastronomically+Ethnically+Geographically different from West Bengal. The people there deserved a separate state.
why ur asking with bengali...they are main culprit ppl in india
By this logic, India will have about close to 1000 states.
Sumit Pal Not 1000 India has more than million state right? Creating Telangana, Uttarakhand, Chhattisgarh and etc has divided India into thousands of state right? That's what you mean to say? Gorkhas are not some small trible group that people can ignore. We Gorkhas have done much more for our country as other before us. But if you think giving Gorkhaland to Gorkhas will make 1000 states than be it. It's our right and not yours.
Formation of Telangana, Uttarakhand and Chhatisgarh had nothing to do with demand for ethnic exclusivity. This demand will just not just end with Gorkhaland. Soon trouble will begin with Sikkim, then people will identify themselves with Nepal.
This is nothing beyond political aspirations of Mr Gurung who was losing support in his party.
From 2:48 minutes in video, bengali panel members clearly states that, "Darjeeling was not part of Bengal before Independence". Then why was it merged with Bengal is main question. Statehood is viable, but BJP is to be held responsible, as they are quietly watching.
Why India is so afraid of saying or even addressing that Darjeeling was the part of greater Nepal.
Mr noone Nepal is Indian state needs to be annexed.
Mr noone If that's the case then Nepal should have been a state of India you idiot.
Nepalese are as Indians as other Indians in India.
@robinhood sherwood.. Hahaha aren't you a creature... You foolish, arrogant little creature....You pathetic human.I know truth can be harsh. Hard to sallow.
Mr noone I know you are suffering from depression and anti india hysteria. I am not surprised with your anti india agenda.
Ｍ. ＭＡＨＡＪＡＮ Yes I am depressed.. How can't I be depressed knowing that my nebor are these stupid people..ruining history and friendship for both the country.
whether its lack of information or what, please Media have some information before bringing the man in the Broadcast....you called him HB chettri, do try to respect! he is Doctorate , so its fyi....he is Dr.Harka Bahadur Chettri..
The territory of Darjeeling was never a part of West Bengal (post Independence), never did it belong to Nepal neither Bhutan and the people as well, howbeit they conquered and captured it, that does not mean that they had owned it or can own it. Darjeeling was part of Sikkim an indigenous tract, way before the British arrived in this place & formed the Bengal Province (pre-independence). After annexation of Darjeeling from Sikkim Raja to East India Company by the deed of grant on Feb 1, 1835 also known as “dubious grant.” And the formation of District-Darjeeling by 1866 the territory was designated as non-regulated district. Then, later without the change in its literal or primary meaning of the word “non-regulated district” it became Scheduled district then to backward tracts and again it made it back to the old expression of “Scheduled Area” with addition of “partially secluded area” or “partially excluded area” by the Government of India Act of 1935, (Amiya K Samantha, 2000), which is the blue print of the Constitution of India. This term which has survived till now, which was also mentioned by Mr. D.S Gurung in the Constitution Assembly debate, now is in under the Article 244(1) of Fifth Schedule of the Constitution of India in which the Governor has the supreme power over this land, yes of course it still exist, the Development Boards and District-Kalimpong is signed by the Governor and granted by his ordinance which are his Constitutional Powers/Provision, this division is made to protect the indigenous people who are incapable of protecting themselves from the economic, social and cultural domination of the outsiders. The term/meaning of ‘excluded’ is confusing and hard to interpret, the closet and the oldest definition can be the non-Indian status of Darjeeling back then or now or not, (hope that I just didn’t book my ticket for sedition.)
Of course we the people of Darjeeling & Kalimpong (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration Area) are the “Children of the Soil” it is our innate indigenous right for our own self-determination with separate administration and separate state in the Constitution of India with the right to land in the Constitution which is also known as the Supreme Law of the Land.
The basic point about Gorkhaland is IDENTITY and NOT DEVELOPMENT.
You should be very clear at the outset, that bringing in the talk of DEVELOPMENT in the way of IDENTITY is to DEVIATE from the core
issue and to OVERSIMPLIFY and GENERALIZE the issues that the Gorkhas
are trying to place before the nation.
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subhadeep mandal So if u r one then why don't you joined with ,"BIHAR"or "JHARKHAN" why u tell u r Bengali. u should learn n talk Hindi.
INDIA should understand that in real DARJILING belongs to NEPAL.
sir what u say all about GORKHALAND bu all Gorkha people say We want Gorkha Land JAI GORKHA
Q. Why are people in Darjeeling demanding Gorkhaland?
A.The demand for a separate administrative unit (separate state in today's term) for the Darjeeling region had started as early as 1907. However, the influx of Bangladeshi refugees starting in 1965 and later state sponsored illegal immigrants from Bangladesh post-1971 for vote bank by subsequent West Bengal governments led to marginalization of the ethnic Gorkha, Kamtapuri and the Rajbanshi communities of the region. The demand for Gorkhaland is a demand to protect the identity, culture, history, traditions and the rich bond of people from Darjeeling region, which they share with their land.
Furthermore, the Gorkhas from the Darjeeling region have continued to be labeled by the fascist and state sponsored Bengali organizations such as Bangla O Bangla Bhasa Bachao Samity, Amra Bangali, Jan Jagaran Morcha, Jan Chetna Morcha as illegal immigrants and the demand for Gorkhaland illegal. They have rendered the ethnic Gorkha people as an intruder in his/her own ancestral lands. This has caused widespread socio-economic and political marginalization of the Gorkhas. All these factors have resulted in the Gorkhas being under-represented, stereotyped and communally discriminated in almost all sectors.
Moreover, Bengal has always been colonial in its approach to this region. The large revenues collected from Darjeeling region have been used to develop other parts of Bengal, while neglecting even the basic infrastructure in the region.
Case in point: the National Highway 55, which used to be the artery connecting the hills of Darjeeling to the rest of India, has been closed due to land slide since 2009 and the West Bengal government has done nothing to rebuild it. Last year alone, there were over 20 malnutrition related death (death due to starvation) reported from the Dooars region and yet the West Bengal government did nothing to alleviate the sufferings of the people in the region.
Q. Is the proposed Gorkhaland region economically viable?
A.The proposed Gorkhaland region is rich in bio-diversity, scenic views, hydro potentials, tourism, NTFP, Tea and numerous other resources. Darjeeling Tea has been accorded the Geographical Indicator status recently by the WTO, which has caused the price of Darjeeling Tea to double in the world market. The demand for tea from the Dooars region is also at an all time high. Even the most conservative estimates put the revenue potential from tea, tourism and hydro from the proposed Gorkhaland area at over 1600 Crores per annum. It is estimated that the revenues from Tea and Tourism alone will make the proposed Gorkhaland region a revenue surplus state. The revenues collected from hydro development, NTFP, cross-border trades and other resources will make the proposed state of Gorkhaland as one of the most economically vibrant states in India.
Respected speakers.... does not understand the real issue of Darjeeling.....such a pity....
There seems to be a lack of information. He is Dr. Harka Bahadur Chettri not Harka Bahadur Chettri.
He is Dr. H. B. Chettri
as a nepali, i will never support the term "gorkhaland". maybe u people should change the name n try.
Revolution for Gorkhaland this to much now the people of Darjeeling have to demand for their own country not a state
I support Gorkhaland. If Punjab-Haryana can be divided based on language, Andhra Pradesh-Telangana can happen, Then why not Gorkhaland?
hobgoblin1216 ur so so educated about nepali nepali gorkhas are u among us??? or just an observer
@hobgoblin1216 . Bangladeshi spotted
Frank is the best host there is.
why Frank is deliberately speaking in slow tempo ???
mukherjee is bengali so he says seperate state is not viable.So don't invite such guest who have biased opinion.
Subash Chandra Subba hattttt biased biased kahaseyy aya muh uthakeyyy
if people in kolkota are sensitive about their language so are Darjeeling people.
we bengalis are proud to have darjeeling in our west bengal.. and gorkhas are our brother, we are proud of them...
Rajkumar, sorry to say, but Bangalis are land thieves, taking away a neighbor's land on the pretext of managing administrative function.. Darjeeling region belongs to Sikkim and it will be remerged again.
We want gorkha land because gorkha land is our identity n w have right n will take our right do or die jai gorkha jai gorkha land......
What led to revival? Very simple answer. Because it is people's aspirations. 99% of people want it. Go and conduct your own research on the ground and talk. This will never go away until you give us our this constitutional right.
जै गोर्खाल्यान्ड जै गोर्खाल्यान्ड
Darjeeling is a part of Gorkha only and Bengali what I guess.
This is Debate or what ?
This west bengal media's are all biased since dhulagarh riot, malda riot.
SInce india can have a Goa a very small state, sikkim which is smaller as compared to proposed state of gorkhaland .
This is all possible
we all indians are with gorkhas
defence update this is Bengali media, they're only taking about Bengali side.
At least one of the speaker should be a Gorkha in this show.
Time for Gorkhas to have their own state
this analyst are only discussion between Bengali vs Bengali and media also Bengali. so we Gorkha land people's rejected
this Bengali media analyst.
It's all blah blah blah, very poor in content...Balmiki prasadji is talking full cliche known stuff, only circling around unending known things. Very poor content. Sikkim is economically better off than Darjeeling, it was pulled into poverty by poor governance by Kolkata. West Bengal with around 9+ Cr population should be anyway divided for better management .Ya i am not happy with guruang, people will through him out, if he is not performing well..when uttarkhand why not Gorkhaland
On india if tamil people are speaking tamil so Tamil nadu created, Assam people are speaking Assamese so Assam created , bengeli people are speaking Bengali than west bengal created. Than why not Gorkhaland on India.. here in India more than 6 core's Gorkha are staying than I feel Gorkhaland should to be creat..Jai Hind
ujal subba west Bengal was always theree no one created it learn history Bengal was the centre of india,,,,,,,,😎😎😎😎thats whyy we don't want to divide our land its totally showing hate towards Bengali
plz dont keep name of state gorkhaland , Keep India land
Q. Is the demand for Gorkhaland illegal?
A. No, to demand for a separate state is the democratic right of every Indian citizen, and the formation of new states is enshrined in our constitution.
Article 3 of the Indian constitution specifically deals with the issues regarding the formation of new states:
Article 3. Formation of new States and alteration of areas, boundaries or names of existing States-Parliament may by law-
(a) form a new State by separation of territory from any State or by uniting two or more States or parts of States or by uniting any territory to a part of any State;
(b) increase the area of any State;
(c) diminish the area of any State;
(d) alter the boundaries of any State;
(e) alter the name of any State:
Hence, the demand for Gorkhaland is a legitimate demand.
Q. Why is West Bengal opposed to the formation of Gorkhaland?
A. The state of West Bengal is one of the most economically backward states in India. Even though, it is the 5th largest in terms of its size, but due to the high debt burden of over Rs. 2.5 lakh Crores, West Bengal is practically bankrupt and is highly dependent on the Central Government and the revenues generated from the proposed Gorkhaland region for its sustenance and economic survival. A conservative estimate indicated that if the proposed Gorkhaland state is formed, West Bengal is expected to lose over 40% of its revenue stream.
So despite all the rhetoric stating, "Darjeeling is Bengal's Abhinno Aanga," Bengal is scared of loosing its hen, which is currently laying the golden eggs. It is scared of losing the cash cow that has continued to discount the development of Bengal's other regions over and over since independence.
Further, Bengal has always held a parochial, colonial and discriminatory attitude towards the proposed Gorkhaland region and continues to do so. Late. Subash Chakraborty a Minister in the CPI(M) Government had said to the Gorkhas "khetey diyechi, sutey chai?" [Meaning: "we have given you food to eat, now you want a space to sleep?"] Hinting that the Bengalis have been benevolent towards the Gorkhas in allowing the Gorkhas to live in Bengal, while ungraciously ignoring the fact that the Gorkhas are ethnic to the land. Similarly, many Bengali scholars [such as Sumanta Sen of The Telegraph] and politicians [such as Dr. Mukund Majumdar and Mr. Ashok Bhattacharjee] continue to call the ethnic Gorkhas foreigners and intruders, which gives a sense of insecurity amongst the ethnic Gorkhas - thus, the demand for Gorkhaland.
question of population makes no difference to create a new separate state.Can have many examples to refute the statement "Isn't viable because of small population."
India needs to first stop interferring in Nepal's politics directly or via its shameless political agents before quashing demands for gorkhaland statehood.
In a debate in NDTV recently, BJP spokesperson said that carving GL would be not be a viable option because the state would become a liability for the center (economically). That's a major point from apolitical point of view. Secondly the Bengal election is up for in 2 years so BJP doesn't want to upset the Bengali pseudo chauvinism. That's why during the NDTV interview the BJP spokesprson used the word "with sympathy" they will look into the matter.I completely agree with the ex governor. The state govt. , the central govt. And the parties of the hills must do a public discussion and be a little more discrete with the people of Darjeeling and North Bengal how the political and geographical decisions must be implemented. I think more apolitical non-nationalist people must be inducted from the hills for harnessing productive decision. At the end whether it stays or divides from Bengal doesn't really matter people must be benefitted from the decision and that should be the only aim of all the three fronts. PEOPLE'S DEVELOPMENT.
Every expert mentions that the Darjeeling region was a part of Sikkim, at that time Sikkim was another country, but since Sikkim has become the 22nd State of India why cant the top politicians of India reunify the region because after India has become independent, it has claimed Goa and Andaman Nicobar but within its own country India has not reunified Sikkim and Darjeeling. How fair is it to keep two parts of the same land in two States ? Bangal was given responsibility of looking after the administrative function only and taking advantage of this Bangal has made its own Absorbed Act which actually means taking over a neighbor's land. So the honest solution is to reunify Darjeeling with Sikkim and declare it Bharatiya Gorkhali State. This panel consists of Bangalis who naturally wants to discourage separating Darjeeling from its clutches, because Bangal is profitting huge amount of wealth from Darjeeling without having to spend money. The HONEST solution is REUNIFICATION with Sikkim its own principal mainland. Otherwise what were the points of claiming Goa and Andaman Nicobar Island by India ?
this is to clarify that darjeeling was not the part of sikim, it was the part of nepal, it was under east india company according to sugauli treaty, and when british left india, darjeeling was not returned to nepal
Q. Who are Gorkhas in the Indian context?
A. The 'Gorkhas' in the Indian context are Indian citizens of Nepali ethnicity, who live across the length and breadth of India. The term 'Gorkha' in the Indian context is used to differentiate the Indian citizens of Nepali ethnicity from the citizens of Nepal, who prefer to be called 'Nepalese.'
Many a time, people mistake the Indian 'Gorkhas' with Nepalese 'Gorkhali'. It is to be noted that in terms of Nepal, 'Gorkhali' refers to the people from the 'Gorkha' region. However, the use of the term 'Gorkha' in the Indian context is very different than in Nepal's context. Therefore, the term 'Gorkha' refers to different groups of people depending on the country they are being used in reference to.
Q. Did the Gorkhas immigrate to India?
A. Majority of the people who identify themselves as 'Gorkhas' in India are sons and daughters of the soil, and their forefathers 'came with the land.' They did not immigrate to India. However, it is well recognized that there are many immigrants from Nepal, who have also settled in India, post-independence.
don't mess with the GORKHA
We don't care what they say we want to talk with modi jai gorkha jai gorkha land
Darjeelin and gorkhaland only nepali pipole?? not indian
we are Gorkha from Thailand , why indian police used guy to protest peoples ?????
we can play gun pretty well as you as well , jai gorkhaland ,
Q. What historical claims does West Bengal have over the Darjeeling-Dooars region?
A.Ironically None! There is no shared history between the Darjeeling-Dooars region, and the rest of West Bengal till the year 1935. The only common thread that connects Darjeeling and the rest of Bengal prior to 1935 is that they shared a common Governor (for administrative ease).
It is interesting to note that following the partition of Bengal in 1905, the administration of Darjeeling was handed over to the Bhagalpur Division in Bihar Presidency between 1905-1907, following which a demand for a separate administrative unit for the Darjeeling-Dooars region (a la Separate State in today's term) was first raised by the Hillmen's Association in 1907, making the demand for a separate state constituting the hills, Terai and Dooars region the oldest demand for statehood in India.
The only reason as to why such a demand was not entertained by the British Government, is because the Darjeeling and Dooars region were already declared a "non-regulated area", which meant that the rules and laws developed for the rest of India would not be automatically applicable to the region.
Q. Why is Darjeeling a part of West Bengal?
A.The Darjeeling region only became a part of West Bengal Presidency in the year 1935, when it was required to send an elected member to the Bengal Legislative Assembly. It was done purely for the then administrative ease, as the British could control the Darjeeling region better from Bengal than from Bhagalpur in Bihar.
i don't understand they are speaking english , it's english speaking ???
people here in panel non of you are aware what gurkhas are able to do it so let see
Everybody knows that the current trouble region in the north of India was carved out from Sikkim when it was a separate country. And it is right to say that when India made Sikkim its 22nd State the politicians should have been honest and the top politicians of India should reunify what part of the region was displaced from the principal land namely Sikkim. What Mamta is doing is that she is dividing the people into different tribes which is an effort to disintegrate them from common language Nepali and common name Gorkgalis. Therefore this troubled region must be reunified with the original mainland Sikkim which is already a separate State away from Bengal. That is the point every politician in India is forgetting or purposely ignoring because the more cunning and influential Bengali politicians are more interested in suppressing and dominating the Gorkhalis on the petty pretext of Strategic Security Region where as the same Gorkhalis are defending the whole of India. Bangal keeps talking about tourism and so on, which clearly shows that Bangal is only concerned about earning revenue without spending anything. Lack of development is not the main issue of the Gorkhalis as pointed out by all Bengali speakers. It is being ruled, suppressed and dominated in their own land where 5-6 generations have lived but are being ruled, suppressed and dominated by another ethnicity Bangalis who act as if they are the lords over the Gorkhas of the region.
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actually gorkhaland in part of Nepal. 😎
British were selfish they took darjeeling from sikkim. Indian govt should do a justice by merging it with sikkim.
Nepalese frm Darjeeling district owns their own land n they didnt migrate frm Nepal. as Nepal had to give away one third of its land to British India under Treaty of Sugauli but that doesn't mean Nepal lost to British. jai Gorkhaland!
dnt worry your times will also come where is india bangladesh n pakistan ...hahahaa... go on debate
thanks for discussing about gorkhaland
aaj mamta ne hamari vaasa chin raha hai kal ke din Darjeeling se vhaga vi sakta hai iss liye We wan GORKHALAND JAI GORKHA
they all respected person forget something.darjiling is part of nepal.many years ago.
Seems to be a biased panel, probably all bengali chauvinists. Rajya Sabha TV shouldn't do such one-sided discussions. Both sides on the issue should have been represented.
goa is a india or not?
Gorkhaland is belong to gorkha period....
Nepal for Nepalese.
Darjeeling is not a part of India and people of Nepal says Darjeeling is the part of Nepal Historically Darjeeling is not part of India or Nepal now we have to prove ourself who we are and why we are I' am not fell proud be Indian cause indian Government can't give us justice and we always forgive Bengal government
good demand gorkhaland
Jai gorkhas it is our land so we can fight until to out last breath...Mamta can't do anything she can win only by talking but she don't know the how much the gorkhas power are strong....i hope when she I'll die she will never get one drop of Water also for drink..
1. It will start with a demand for a separate state. Let's say it is met.
2. Then the leaders in order to retain their mass appeal will continue to mobilise people and threaten other communities to vacate and leave gorkhaland.
3. Other communities will flee gorkhaland in fear. In retribution, gorkhas in other parts of India will also face the heat and some may be forced out of other states.
4. GJM would not mind this situation as for them populism means more votes and power. But people, Gorkhas and others will suffer.
5. Soon, people would raise flags of Nepal in Gorkhaland against India asking for secession or separate rights (in the lines of Article 370 or ILP)
5. China/Pakistan/North-east insurgents would support these people to take up arms and terrorism will take root.
6. More hardline organisations will rise up and seize power in Gorkhaland first running a parallel govt be exhorting money from tea-garden owners.
7. The Indian army will hunt these people and there would be many innocents would come in the crossfire. Anti-India sentiment will rise in Gorkhaland. Anti-gorkha sentiment will rise in India.
8. We will have another Kashmir-like situation.
This is a mouth-watering scenario for Pak / China. Right now BJP is supporting this in their politics against Mamata, but history will not forgive them.
Bangladeshi spotted
Timing too convenient .... this is ruling party "paintra" to destabilize the Tmc govmt
Darjeeling is the part of nepal 🇳🇵
Fuck off man
gives our grokhland . . 😠😠😠
These are the media person of Bengal TMC and agent of CM. These person are very poor in history of Gurkhas of 5he world.
gorkhland is not demand of dargiling people it is demand of all gorkhas who r living all over the india we are more than 1.5 carore u r talking abkut only dargiling what for us...????
JAY GORKHA LAND
jay gorkhaland
Indian politics dada gari group ..??? Indian government not accordingly give us reality , British time it was careless and there's bangeli politics put devided rules.. Indian government only formality..and so much curruption ..
gorkhaland jindhabadh
Why do come to garb the land of others?
gorkha are from nepal not indian
Take the public Gorkhalies opinion poll by central not by states. The demand of Gorkhalies are very must rightful. It's very viable teas timber turriost educational hub international market we think like other help newly form states central donnot negeleted Darjeeling .Other international boundary states like Arunachal Mizoram Nagaland sikkim .too form but no question for national threads. There is deep conspiracy for Gorkhalies to totally extinct Gorkhalies from India. Now they are refugee in their own land .THEY are the native people's of that particular land. but Bengal govt policies settled other community maximum Bengalies and other no political power through language imposement in Darjeeling. This is the voice of colonialism by Bengalies and neglecting behaviour of govt of India i Indian. We are 1.t crores. Gorkhalies .If teas are in crisis tell the owner to leaves the world class twas then Gorkhalies show how it flourish by ownership of Gorkhaland.Its not a politics it the voice of deprive Gorkhalies . Donnot fool all Indian with your false statement .You people are diverting the issues .This time every pages is going to open.Where is Gorkhalies participant in your debates. Fooling all Indians. What about Nagaland Mizoram Go a. and jharkhand and about newly form Tegengana. why not Gorkhaland Bangal has already West Bengal why so greedy if Gorkhaland are useless. Give Gorkhalues Gorkhaland they will show how should development is. IT'S THE CONSPIRECIES COME WITH HOMEWORK. WITH BENGAL GOVT.. WE HAVE SEEN 108 TEAS OF BANGAL GOVT THURD CLASS POLICIES IT LIKE ELEPHANT TUSK .SHOWING ONE AND EATING BY OTHER. NOW FED UP AND IT'S PICECS MAKES MAKES NATIVE PEOPME REFUGEE AND FOREIGNER TERRORIST. NOW IT'S INDIAN HORKHALUES RESPISIBLITY TO MAKE ITS OUR STATES OTHERWISE THESE INSECT EXTINCT OUR NAME LIKE DNOSE
shit talks, ASKING GORKHALAND is .protecting our language, and our land, issnt that enough? WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR MOTHERLANGUAGE.
biased panel
Gorkha land only bjp patai
darjeeling is being neglected by Mamta ...I feel gurkhaland should have some consideration ....
Recently visited beautiful Darjeeling in may. People were so cute and nice! Can't believe that they can be so violent!
But i agree that Darjeeling is not paid enough attention by bengal government. The beauty of Darjeeling is going down year by year. The road conditions were bad.
But people if Darjeeling should also remember that statehood won't do any good for them. Because it being to be almost smallest state, politician like Bimal gurung will behave like goonda and rule like an anarchist over Darjeeling. There will be no one to balance GJM people. I don't understand what good will it do by achieving separate state.
what not good will it do by achieving separate state by friend....demands of separate state is not something new my friends let me remind you and the biggest rows always start over the smallest thing.
mofuuuuuu wait n see who will save you later bangla or Gorkha
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rubbish discussion
Ghorkha land is not suitable please give state with Darjeeling Land .. Ghorkah mean Nepali ...
brother nw on gorkhas wil nvr vote fr bloody TMC goons it was just a municipal elections higher percentage of population in hills is concentrated to gram panchayats and claiming victory in a small place is not a victory you people have lost in Siliguri municipal elections your own place
Yes vote for BJP.
Francis Xavier Sherpa yes brother u r rights in next election no single vote should go to TMC or CPM.bcos. they're all same pond fish. what TMC is doing, same thing CPM will do.
darjeeling was part of nepal so it should be returned to nepal. problem solved :)
Better life nepal needs to be returned to India.
Better life Yup Nepal should be part of India :)
Better life Nepal should be part of #INDIA..
That's kinda pipe dreams guys.
Thanks to god that u guys ain't in nepal.otherwise,who would have saved your neck from khukuri.
Pranit Chettri yeah. Every body wants diamond, you are one of them. I can understand it. It's not your fault.
Bangal police gorkha ke
just le this covid RIP then youll see the rage of gorkha blood...kukur horu
Darjeeling is part of nepal.so' Indians! you stop to make false news for trp of your channel.
football and cricket best ever nepal needs to be merged with India.
sure ,but the national anthem, national flag ,and national language should be Nepal ,only country name will India.
what a fitting reply!!
football and cricket best ever
Increasingly i am realizing that Nepalese are delusional. Have you seen the size of your country on world map. what is that Nepal is known for in the world? Whats Nepal's GDP? Whats your economical size? You cant live in past glories of 200-300 year old and claim something that is Indian as yours. Go ask the people in Darjeeling and Sikkim, do they want to be Indians or be with Nepal. You will get your answer. Misdirected ego is not healthy.
Nepali people come and settled in Sikkim and Darjeeling .. Open border with Nepal is the main cause
Do you know history of Darjeeling?
So many Bengalis migrated from Bangladesh
, who knows if you are one of them?
Sikkim was not part of India till 1975 n Darjeeling was not part of India till 1947. Forget about Bengal. Gorkhas r in darjeeling from kirat period with own diff identity limboo, Rai, lepcha. N others from gorkha dynasty rule of late 1700. Now it's ruled by Bangladeshi settler after 1947 n 1971. U were free to not include already gorkha majority Darjeeling to India in 1947 n Bengal in 1956. No one forced u .
no gorkhaland ... if there is language issue ... go to nepal ...
History poran dada ki kora
Darjeeling alo 1815 aga
Kotai chilo ganan na ki
Many people are say
Bengalis are very intelligent
and brilliant but ,they don't no
history of Darjeeling Tarai duars
and say Darjeeling is our land. 😂😂😂😂
British did not annexed Darjeeling from ur mirjafar n mirkashim. it was annexed from Nepal n Sikkim. They donot live in ur Bengal. Rather Bangladeshi settler live in their place merged with Bengal in 1956.
Today gorkha's demand separate state , after few years they want to leave from India and join Nepal or china.
Bangladeshi spotted
@subhadeep mandal Another Bangladeshi uff
once pandit Nehru said ..don't argue or discuss with any Nepali ...because they won't understand anything ....they have little thinking power ....
You are a Bangladeshi ryt?. You should be deported back to Bangladesh. Illegal immigrant.