In my first lessons of dance. One of the hardest part for women were to follow not because the men didn't know what to do. It was the women who never submitted before.
This is valid. It’s also why I mentioned that learning to lead is an art form AND learning to follow is an art form and both are needed for it to work. Thanks for watching! :)
Much respect for effectively drawing the correlation between Salsa/Bachata dancing and the dynamic between the masculine and feminine. I actually did a breakdown of the movie "Dirty Dancing" some time ago and tried to show that very same correlation. Everything after that unfortunately, is just the continued rehashing of offloading the vast majority of the responsibility onto the Masculine, while being cynical, skeptical, hypercritical and contentious towards it at the same time (even if it's done in a soft voice). And for the record I agree, Responsibility and Authority go hand-in-glove - no argument with that. What it boils down to though is, women only want to BE lead, where THEY decide they want to be, when THEY decide they want, and how THEY decide they want. That being the case, Men need to recognize and accept, that women DON’T want leaders, they want to BE the leader (void of responsibility), even if that means Leading from the BACK, while Men follow from the front. Adjust accordingly. Because women’s intuition is 100% infallible under all circumstances and situations (no, I’m not putting words in your mouth, that’s simply my opinion), they can consciously CHOOSE to employ it at any time to achieve the desired outcome of the soft life that so many of them claim to be missing out on. Truth be told, in the current climate, when women speak on NOT being able to “rest in their femininity” - what they’re saying (without saying directly) is they DON’T want to have to lift a finger, shake a leg, or move a muscle in any way WITHIN the relationship PARTICULARLY if said motion/ action will be of any benefit to her man. Basically, she wants every day and ALL DAY, to be her personal VACATION, on the back of HIS labor. What we extrapolated from these remarks is more of the never-ending FEAR MONGERING (Man = untrustworthy, Woman = victim) that women Love to engage in with each other, consistently and intentionally. It’s curious and unsettling to US as men, that women are so easily Empathetic and Understanding with one another, yet so Apathetic and Indifferent towards us, if/ when we voice our concerns after having lived experiences/ interactions with you. “Reminding" Men of the responsibility that they have no choice but to accept, while at the same time being hypercritical of the very WAYS in which HE shoulders those responsibilities (that women DON’T want any part of), and not fully recognizing him as the governing authority figure 100%, isn't going to cause him to get HIS act together - hence why the one guy said "have a nice night" and chucked the deuces. By no means should a woman automatically trust just any Joe Shmoe she comes in contact with - No. However, if he is THE man that YOU decided to give your support/ cooperation to, more energy should be concentrated upon understanding HIM and HIS S.O.S. (system, order and structure) to the best of YOUR ability in a Feminine way. Because it’s women who ASSIMILATE to MEN, not the other way around. Women never cease to run out of reasons why they CAN'T be who they’re meant to be by nature, and ultimately all of their "reasons" fall back upon some inadequacy of Men. For just a moment though, try placing the shoe on the other foot. If men made it a habit of stating again and again that “I can’t be a Man because she won’t…” Women would give us the UNIVERSAL SIDE EYE. Men don’t “lead women into chaos” - Biological Feminine/ Female Nature IS Naturally Chaotic! That’s not a shot at women either, it’s SUPPOSED to be that way. All I’m saying is, as the Feminine, extend Men a little more of the GRACE and EMPATHY that you automatically give each other when y’all are trauma bonding from trading horror stories of your past relationships. Male leadership has been placed under the microscope and analyzed ad infinitum, even before women started burning bras in protest to "the Patriarchy." Now, let’s shift the conversation - instead of male leadership being “the problem”, how about we try to improve on “female FOLLOWERSHIP” without blaming the Men. Beloved, I offer my thoughts with no malice or ill intent, truly. Merely adding my voice where I can. Please accept these words with the best of intentions.
This was a very thoughtful response. I appreciate your input and adding more to the discussion. I don't agree with everything mentioned but as people are watching this video they are doing so with biases based on lived experiences and with whatever we believe to be true. This video was to address a conversation that I keep hearing on the internet. And in turn, it was a response to those conversations. Women are not exempt from taking responsibility and contributing to any relationship. This is why I mentioned yin/yang. BOTH are needed to make it a flowing dynamic. Thank you for watching, and sharing your thoughts!
@@soulspirationgoddess I love dancing salsa and bachata, however, I'm a woman and I am an exceptional leader. And it isn't just me. Who ever has the stronger intuition is the one who is supposed to lead in life. Men twirl you into other women because men aren't cut out for leading. It's the male ego and the womanly intuition. The woman is the spiritual head.
@@nforbes I love that you also dance Salsa and Bachata! (p.s I need to spend a session only leading so I can show my friends and family what I've been learning all of these years. You can't show ppl the dance when you only know how to follow lol). I agree that the woman is the spiritual leader. But men are also here to protect us, and if he's going to be a decision maker in anyone's life he needs awareness and to NOT be led by his ego.
if she not Naturally Submissive, dump her, She is not the right one for you. A woman is inheritently submissive because thats her personality type to be submissive to a man she loves. Same with a woman who is extroverted or introverted , prudish or freaky, fun and out going, or depressed and bipolar. No man can make a submissive woman headstrong any more than any man can be a depressed woman super happy. Either she is naturally submissive, or she never will be. Thats like trying to make a promiscious woman be faithful. No matter how good of man you are, how much of a provider you are, or how great a leader you are. You can't make a 304 into a submissive loyal faithful housewife. Either she headstrong inherently or she is submissive inherently. Who you are as a man has no bearing on her personality. The only thing we can do is men is dump a woman once she shows her self to not be who we want her to be and replace her with some one new. We dont chase, we replace.
This video isn’t about chasing or replacing. As I mentioned in my video, the men who get it, get it and the ones who don’t, simply won’t. I appreciate the comment nonetheless, thanks for stopping by!
@@soulspirationgoddess I learn from experience and meeting different types of women. Some women are just organically submissive to a man she is inlove with. And some women no matter if you pay all the bills. Be faithful and give her the wall..she can't and won't submit. Most Sistas don't want to give up control. They are fighting to have semblance of control over the man .every thing they say is rooted in selfish need to control a man. This is why the word Obey in the wedding vows hurts them to their core I don't even use the word submissive. If a woman expresses interest in me I first say the woman I marry has unconditionally obey me and serve me.. If that sets her off in any way I know she is situationships only
As much as i generally agree, i do believe there is room for encouragement. If you are going to be with someone for the long haul, there will definitely be times when a man needs his woman's encouragement and support to keep being a leader and keep going out there for his family and women will need affirmation and validation to feel secure to keep submitting and following your lead. We are humans not robots. No human is constantly one thing to the same degree everyday. It's always an intricate dance where both affirm eachother in their respective roles. It doesn't mean wife up a garden tool and try and change her, it just means sometimes even your submissive wife may have a down day where she needs some affirmation, just like a masculine guy may come home from a bad day at the hunting grounds and could use some encouragment to keep going out there.
@@Kimkong2 well.a down day? Does a man have a down day being faithful..does a man have down day being protector, does the man have a down day not being abusive physically, does the man have a down day with his anger towards her for no reason.... Even s.i.m.ps and nice guys don't have down days tricking. They stay consistent. Robot or not. No excuses. Have down days when it comes to making her feel safe around you or make her afraid you my hurt her? Let's keep it real, are men allowed a down day..or they expected to be men regardless of circumstances? Well same thing. A nympho doesn't have a down day being a nympho. A faithful woman doesnt have a down day being loyal A athletic woman doesn't have a down day with her fitness. A woman who loves cooking doesn't have a down day. Robot or not..if a finesser or scammer can be true to they self that's who they is. Why would a submission woman have down day being who she is. A woman who bipolar ain't have changing A psychopath doesn't have a down day with psychopathic ways. A narcissist doesn't have a down day with their narcissism. Submissive women are just submissive Headstrong unruly obstinate women can't pretend to be submissive..its not them.. They being something they aint
I've read a book that talks about this "Understanding the Purpose and Power of Men". Currently reading it's sister book "Understanding the Purpose and Power of women".
@soulspirationgoddess basically what you've said in the video. You can't expect someone to follow you if you don't know how to lead. I too do Latin dancing so I got the analogy well.
Interesting perspective. As a Bachata and salsa dancer myself ive noticed some women follow your lead which creates a beautiful dance and others either try to lead you or wont trust your leadership due to their own "bagage". So there is imparative on both ends to play their role. Finding a dance partner that is at your skill level is important so you have the right match otherwise need to replace them and or level up on your end.
I’m 55 and every woman I’ve ever met has been so indoctrinated with feminism that they fight any idea of submitting to a man. They will do everything they can to show that they’re the strong one who is in control. Most men can lead and make good decisions. Our problem is that, even if the man picks something that she’d want and is in her best interest, she’ll rebel just to show that she can. My current wife and I tried learning ballroom dancing and it only lasted a few weeks. She always felt she knew better and was trying to lead from her side.
First, this is straight game and a gem of a video ! I wonder though, should a woman's submission be dependant on whether the man is masculine and leading? Shouldn't a woman be naturally submissive and a man naturally lead ? For example, if a woman gets with a man and she realizes he isn't willing to exercise leadership, should she then abandon her submission ? I would think that in such a case the woman should stop messing with said man and move along to a man worthy of her submission, not abandon it to try and change this man. Vice versa for men. The good book says "don't feed your pearls to pigs". The issue nowadays is two fold, first, these roles are being blurred and the masculine role is being demonized while the feminine role is being shamed. Secondly, people are getting with partners who aren't willing to be in their natural roles for whatever reason. Men who are in charge of relationships and offer commitment are giving it up to women thinking their provisions will insipre submission from a masculine woman, while women who are in charge of intimacy and offer sex are giving it up to men who aren't willing to lead and commit to them. So men have now fetishized the masculine woman and are only good to be conquered in bed since they have made themselves something to be hunted, not commited to. You don't provide for the deer you hunt. Women on the other hand are giving sex to men who aren't willing to commit to them and calling it empowerment while low key hoping that will be enough to get them to commit. I don't believe in the idea of 'getting someone to submit/lead'. I understand that as humans we are all raised in different circumstances and life may force us into different states of being, so i get that there should be room for a little nudge from your partner to encourage you to take on the natural roles, but i don't think it's wise to take full/most of the responsibility to make someone take on their respective role. As the old proverb goes, you can take the cow to the stream but you can't force it to drink.
You are very astute in your understanding. You spoke so eloquently on this very important, but rarily discussed topic. I agree. Your analogy of dance and the very delicate balance between the Feminine & Masculine is spot on. Mutual respect, and personal accountability from both partners , will ensure a happy & successful relationship. On the dance floor and in life!❤
No. It doesn't. Even the animal kingdom knows that. A female kangaroo is not mating with the weaker male, she's going with the strongest one and the BEST one for the job.
@@soulspirationgoddess it does because because as long as submission is conditionally it cease being submission, and that is the role of a women in marriage. Lets say for example a man saying to his wife, I don't love you anymore because you did not listen to me. Then that love was not love at all at the first place. submission like love it is NOT conditionally.
@@dumazilehlatshwayo4593 Well this is reality, even the Bible says to be wise in our decisions. And no smart woman is submitting to an idiot. God bless.
The biblical notion of a husband loving his wife "as Christ loves his church" is unconditional. This means the husband cannot say, "I would love her if she did... X, Y, Z." Most all Christians understand and agree with this, namely, a husband cannot conditionally love his wife. BUT, the biblical teaching goes out the window when it comes to the wife's submission. Christian women typically assert that, "l would submit to my husband IF he would do... X, Y, Z" (e.g. have his "divine masculinity" operating) However, the biblical teaching is NOT conditional. Hence, I believe most Christian women are living in direct disobedience to God WHILE claiming to be good Christians.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. A husband safely leading and protecting his wife is a significant part of him loving her as Christ loves the church. If he’s not doing that then I’m not sure what he’s doing. Blessings!
I have to disagree with you on this one. The Biblical teaching of the Messiah and His assembly IS conditional. But His conditions are simple. To be saved, you must repent...and stay within the bounds of the Covenant that He gave. (10 Commandments.) If you (the assembly) go outside the bounds of the Covenant, very bad things could happen. So, as you can see here, the boundaries (conditions) of His love are made by the assembly keeping (through His grace) the Holy Covenant He created. This is why the original Hebrew Israelites did not need to say any “vows” in their wedding. The “”Vows” were included in the Covenant. Hence, not going outside of the tribe to marry. All you would do is have a party that was attended by both families and friends. And afterwards in private ...the 2 would become 1. In the Covenant. If they did this, submission was automated because BOTH are submitting to the Most High and He is now in control. Well thats the way marriage was intended, but now....not so much.
Yes it is unconditional, the caveat however is you get to choose your wife. God says "to your wife you should be unconditionally loving" but He doesn't force any particular woman on you. That's up to you. Basically, choose wisely. Where people mess up, me inculded, is we are terrible at choosing. We often choose based on superficial or at best miniscule information on the other person. I think its also why He commands that sex should be with someone you have married, this is to help you not get too attached with someone that isn't right and find yourself in a position where you are too involved to be able to stop a relationship if you figure out the person isn't right for you or you for them. Problem is by that time, many have already slept together, moved in or worse have a kid.
The bachata example is a great analogy, and it made the concept actually click in my head. However, I don’t even think that’s men’s biggest issue today with women. I think it’s that a lot of women are keeping us on rosters to use as they please, when they know we have feelings towards them. Would love to hear your take on that aspect.
This modern day feminist movement is to prove "we can do it too" and that also includes the dating habits that men had/have (promiscuity, playing games etc).. and frankly women have always been on men's "rosters" when it came to dating. You might disagree but I know BEFORE the age of the internet most women dated one guy, really started to like him only to realize she wasn't the only one he was dating. Women keeping rosters is a fairly new concept. I think women today are in a lot of ways mirroring men and its back firing a bit..
@@soulspirationgoddess thank you for pointing this out in retrospect - genuinely not seen anyone else on the internet state how much it has flipped with certain aspects of this gender war, that you put very well. Not finished the video yet, but loving it so far.
To test the man in an irrational way is a female privelege. But you can´t, as a woman, be unreasonable doing that. And you mest give him the prize when he finish his task: You must give him your submission. Then both are going to be happy: The man for having passed the test, the woman for having intelligently tested him, now knowing that he´s a valuable man that responds maturily to a test. Plus with a sensation of being in charge, because after all it´s you, the woman, that are i the lead, letting him lead.
Rule #1: Never believe that a fish know how to catch a fish. And from my military experience (USMC & Army), subordinates have no idea what the leadership has to consider and prepare for enough to complain about it. Your experience with dance has NOTHING TO DO with the leadership you are complaining about! It has to do with situational awareness. If he is focused on launching you into a move that causes a crash, how do YOU know that the crash happened because you hesitated in the middle of the move? Or because you stumbled? Or that your move was the one he expected you to do? At what point to YOU take accountability to your actions in the same situation? And if you're still single with no household of your own, you have already lost in life. And for your educational experience, a man would rather walk away from you than argue with you about your projected intelligence, experience, safety, or comfort. At that point, you will be deemed unreasonable, ruined, or worthless. As men, if we are truly interested in you, we will watch how you deal with everything -- friends, family, strangers, associates, enemies, benefactors, sponsors, and anyone whom you deem inconsequential. We make our decisions on what you do in the moment and based on habits. If we see what we don't like long enough or bad enough, we will flush you down the toilet. A man's peace is his throneroom. I do hope you get the lessons from what I posted. If I didn't care, I would not say anything to try to adjust your current line of thinking.
@soulspirationgoddess Really cool how you correlated partner dancing to the masculine / feminine dynamic.... So now I'm curious... What would be your dictionary definition of: 1. Masculinity 2. Divinity I ask that, not to argue, but for clarity and deeper insight into your perspective...
I would define masculinity as the logical planner and initiator and the feminine as the receiving force so that it can create and or birth something (be it an idea, a dance move or even us humans 😆). Thanks for watching!
If you're watching this as a man, pause the video and do not proceed watching. I saw this lady and the title, and only clicked this to leave this message, never take dating advice from women. And never listen to what they say, only pay attention to what they do. As you were.
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Will you marry me ? .................What an excellent presentation. Thank you. Complimentary teamwork..... a real connection. Many times it depends upon the situation.... Situational awareness.
¡¡La analogía que mencionas del baile (salsa o bachata) con la relación de pareja, es perfecta!! El saber llevar o liderar del hombre es muy importante para mantener la relación armoniosa y equilibrada, me ha gustado tu video, creo que puede tener una segunda parte. Saludos Soul!! 🇵🇪
why not ask for respect more than submission? no one listens to someone they dont respect and someone who doesn't know any better. women dont respect anyone who cant even take care of themselves. Why do we 'submit' to our parents? its because we respect them and their wisdom not because they are parents or they are older or their gender or whatever
I only use the word submission bc that’s what the podcasts love to talk about. But respect, trust, following someones lead; it all comes naturally when the person is solid.
Rest so he can take the reigns...😂😂 we lead you yes but you have legs and your own spatial awareness. Salsa represents the intertwined balance, not just being lead around
@soulspirationgoddess I did happily watch the video. What men want isnt Submission/dependency/liability so a women can "rest" as seen in salsa but submission/cooperation/teamwork. What men are looking for in a woman/wife is the example in the movie avatar. But I don't think you are ready for that talk.
@@whyisitneeded9012 A woman isn't "resting" in Salsa she's receiving instruction and performing the request. Which to me sounds like teamwork. Thank you for watching the video!
@soulspirationgoddess it sounds similar to a shepard and sheep? The sheep take instructions too. You see what I mean? If not then thanks for the video it was a a good watch
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In my first lessons of dance. One of the hardest part for women were to follow not because the men didn't know what to do. It was the women who never submitted before.
This is valid. It’s also why I mentioned that learning to lead is an art form AND learning to follow is an art form and both are needed for it to work. Thanks for watching! :)
Really comparing dancing vs Really LIFE ???!!!! WHAT'S ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SERIOUSLY!!!WOW MAN!!!
@soulspirationgoddess Ya got to be kidding me What's???!!!!
@@asswiddiqwatamaaman979 You're still here I see. Thanks for sticking around. :)
@@soulspirationgoddess Hahaha...
This video was very soothing compared to all the aggressive blunt straight inya face vids good luck in ya TH-cam Journey Soulspiration
Thank you :)
Much respect for effectively drawing the correlation between Salsa/Bachata dancing and the dynamic between the masculine and feminine. I actually did a breakdown of the movie "Dirty Dancing" some time ago and tried to show that very same correlation.
Everything after that unfortunately, is just the continued rehashing of offloading the vast majority of the responsibility onto the Masculine, while being cynical, skeptical, hypercritical and contentious towards it at the same time (even if it's done in a soft voice). And for the record I agree, Responsibility and Authority go hand-in-glove - no argument with that. What it boils down to though is, women only want to BE lead, where THEY decide they want to be, when THEY decide they want, and how THEY decide they want. That being the case, Men need to recognize and accept, that women DON’T want leaders, they want to BE the leader (void of responsibility), even if that means Leading from the BACK, while Men follow from the front. Adjust accordingly.
Because women’s intuition is 100% infallible under all circumstances and situations (no, I’m not putting words in your mouth, that’s simply my opinion), they can consciously CHOOSE to employ it at any time to achieve the desired outcome of the soft life that so many of them claim to be missing out on. Truth be told, in the current climate, when women speak on NOT being able to “rest in their femininity” - what they’re saying (without saying directly) is they DON’T want to have to lift a finger, shake a leg, or move a muscle in any way WITHIN the relationship PARTICULARLY if said motion/ action will be of any benefit to her man. Basically, she wants every day and ALL DAY, to be her personal VACATION, on the back of HIS labor. What we extrapolated from these remarks is more of the never-ending FEAR MONGERING (Man = untrustworthy, Woman = victim) that women Love to engage in with each other, consistently and intentionally. It’s curious and unsettling to US as men, that women are so easily Empathetic and Understanding with one another, yet so Apathetic and Indifferent towards us, if/ when we voice our concerns after having lived experiences/ interactions with you.
“Reminding" Men of the responsibility that they have no choice but to accept, while at the same time being hypercritical of the very WAYS in which HE shoulders those responsibilities (that women DON’T want any part of), and not fully recognizing him as the governing authority figure 100%, isn't going to cause him to get HIS act together - hence why the one guy said "have a nice night" and chucked the deuces. By no means should a woman automatically trust just any Joe Shmoe she comes in contact with - No. However, if he is THE man that YOU decided to give your support/ cooperation to, more energy should be concentrated upon understanding HIM and HIS S.O.S. (system, order and structure) to the best of YOUR ability in a Feminine way. Because it’s women who ASSIMILATE to MEN, not the other way around.
Women never cease to run out of reasons why they CAN'T be who they’re meant to be by nature, and ultimately all of their "reasons" fall back upon some inadequacy of Men. For just a moment though, try placing the shoe on the other foot. If men made it a habit of stating again and again that “I can’t be a Man because she won’t…” Women would give us the UNIVERSAL SIDE EYE. Men don’t “lead women into chaos” - Biological Feminine/ Female Nature IS Naturally Chaotic! That’s not a shot at women either, it’s SUPPOSED to be that way. All I’m saying is, as the Feminine, extend Men a little more of the GRACE and EMPATHY that you automatically give each other when y’all are trauma bonding from trading horror stories of your past relationships.
Male leadership has been placed under the microscope and analyzed ad infinitum, even before women started burning bras in protest to "the Patriarchy." Now, let’s shift the conversation - instead of male leadership being “the problem”, how about we try to improve on “female FOLLOWERSHIP” without blaming the Men.
Beloved, I offer my thoughts with no malice or ill intent, truly. Merely adding my voice where I can. Please accept these words with the best of intentions.
This was a very thoughtful response. I appreciate your input and adding more to the discussion. I don't agree with everything mentioned but as people are watching this video they are doing so with biases based on lived experiences and with whatever we believe to be true. This video was to address a conversation that I keep hearing on the internet. And in turn, it was a response to those conversations. Women are not exempt from taking responsibility and contributing to any relationship. This is why I mentioned yin/yang. BOTH are needed to make it a flowing dynamic. Thank you for watching, and sharing your thoughts!
Extremely important points in your response, Coach! Very eloquently stated, indeed!
@@soulspirationgoddess I love dancing salsa and bachata, however, I'm a woman and I am an exceptional leader. And it isn't just me. Who ever has the stronger intuition is the one who is supposed to lead in life. Men twirl you into other women because men aren't cut out for leading. It's the male ego and the womanly intuition. The woman is the spiritual head.
@@nforbes I love that you also dance Salsa and Bachata! (p.s I need to spend a session only leading so I can show my friends and family what I've been learning all of these years. You can't show ppl the dance when you only know how to follow lol). I agree that the woman is the spiritual leader. But men are also here to protect us, and if he's going to be a decision maker in anyone's life he needs awareness and to NOT be led by his ego.
@@soulspirationgoddess =o) Peace & Love Sis
if she not Naturally Submissive, dump her, She is not the right one for you.
A woman is inheritently submissive because thats her personality type to be submissive to a man she loves.
Same with a woman who is extroverted or introverted , prudish or freaky, fun and out going, or depressed and bipolar.
No man can make a submissive woman headstrong any more than any man can be a depressed woman super happy.
Either she is naturally submissive, or she never will be.
Thats like trying to make a promiscious woman be faithful.
No matter how good of man you are, how much of a provider you are, or how great a leader you are.
You can't make a 304 into a submissive loyal faithful housewife.
Either she headstrong inherently or she is submissive inherently. Who you are as a man has no bearing on her personality.
The only thing we can do is men is dump a woman once she shows her self to not be who we want her to be and replace her with some one new.
We dont chase, we replace.
This video isn’t about chasing or replacing. As I mentioned in my video, the men who get it, get it and the ones who don’t, simply won’t. I appreciate the comment nonetheless, thanks for stopping by!
@@soulspirationgoddess I learn from experience and meeting different types of women.
Some women are just organically submissive to a man she is inlove with.
And some women no matter if you pay all the bills. Be faithful and give her the wall..she can't and won't submit.
Most Sistas don't want to give up control.
They are fighting to have semblance of control over the man .every thing they say is rooted in selfish need to control a man.
This is why the word Obey in the wedding vows hurts them to their core
I don't even use the word submissive.
If a woman expresses interest in me I first say the woman I marry has unconditionally obey me and serve me..
If that sets her off in any way I know she is situationships only
@@genovasquez8361 Fighting for control over themselves while men want control over women.So try again
As much as i generally agree, i do believe there is room for encouragement. If you are going to be with someone for the long haul, there will definitely be times when a man needs his woman's encouragement and support to keep being a leader and keep going out there for his family and women will need affirmation and validation to feel secure to keep submitting and following your lead. We are humans not robots. No human is constantly one thing to the same degree everyday. It's always an intricate dance where both affirm eachother in their respective roles. It doesn't mean wife up a garden tool and try and change her, it just means sometimes even your submissive wife may have a down day where she needs some affirmation, just like a masculine guy may come home from a bad day at the hunting grounds and could use some encouragment to keep going out there.
@@Kimkong2 well.a down day? Does a man have a down day being faithful..does a man have down day being protector, does the man have a down day not being abusive physically, does the man have a down day with his anger towards her for no reason....
Even s.i.m.ps and nice guys don't have down days tricking. They stay consistent. Robot or not. No excuses. Have down days when it comes to making her feel safe around you or make her afraid you my hurt her?
Let's keep it real, are men allowed a down day..or they expected to be men regardless of circumstances? Well same thing.
A nympho doesn't have a down day being a nympho.
A faithful woman doesnt have a down day being loyal
A athletic woman doesn't have a down day with her fitness.
A woman who loves cooking doesn't have a down day.
Robot or not..if a finesser or scammer can be true to they self that's who they is.
Why would a submission woman have down day being who she is.
A woman who bipolar ain't have changing
A psychopath doesn't have a down day with psychopathic ways.
A narcissist doesn't have a down day with their narcissism.
Submissive women are just submissive
Headstrong unruly obstinate women can't pretend to be submissive..its not them..
They being something they aint
my favorite part...... " essentially I'm here to put this gender war to rest"
Yes you get it! 🙌
I've read a book that talks about this "Understanding the Purpose and Power of Men". Currently reading it's sister book "Understanding the Purpose and Power of women".
They both sound like necessary reads. What do you think of them so far? 📚
@soulspirationgoddess basically what you've said in the video. You can't expect someone to follow you if you don't know how to lead. I too do Latin dancing so I got the analogy well.
Interesting perspective. As a Bachata and salsa dancer myself ive noticed some women follow your lead which creates a beautiful dance and others either try to lead you or wont trust your leadership due to their own "bagage". So there is imparative on both ends to play their role. Finding a dance partner that is at your skill level is important so you have the right match otherwise need to replace them and or level up on your end.
I’m 55 and every woman I’ve ever met has been so indoctrinated with feminism that they fight any idea of submitting to a man. They will do everything they can to show that they’re the strong one who is in control. Most men can lead and make good decisions. Our problem is that, even if the man picks something that she’d want and is in her best interest, she’ll rebel just to show that she can.
My current wife and I tried learning ballroom dancing and it only lasted a few weeks. She always felt she knew better and was trying to lead from her side.
First, this is straight game and a gem of a video ! I wonder though, should a woman's submission be dependant on whether the man is masculine and leading? Shouldn't a woman be naturally submissive and a man naturally lead ? For example, if a woman gets with a man and she realizes he isn't willing to exercise leadership, should she then abandon her submission ? I would think that in such a case the woman should stop messing with said man and move along to a man worthy of her submission, not abandon it to try and change this man. Vice versa for men. The good book says "don't feed your pearls to pigs".
The issue nowadays is two fold, first, these roles are being blurred and the masculine role is being demonized while the feminine role is being shamed. Secondly, people are getting with partners who aren't willing to be in their natural roles for whatever reason. Men who are in charge of relationships and offer commitment are giving it up to women thinking their provisions will insipre submission from a masculine woman, while women who are in charge of intimacy and offer sex are giving it up to men who aren't willing to lead and commit to them. So men have now fetishized the masculine woman and are only good to be conquered in bed since they have made themselves something to be hunted, not commited to. You don't provide for the deer you hunt. Women on the other hand are giving sex to men who aren't willing to commit to them and calling it empowerment while low key hoping that will be enough to get them to commit.
I don't believe in the idea of 'getting someone to submit/lead'. I understand that as humans we are all raised in different circumstances and life may force us into different states of being, so i get that there should be room for a little nudge from your partner to encourage you to take on the natural roles, but i don't think it's wise to take full/most of the responsibility to make someone take on their respective role. As the old proverb goes, you can take the cow to the stream but you can't force it to drink.
Jezebels don't submit....Wives do.
You are very astute in your understanding. You spoke so eloquently on this very important, but rarily discussed topic. I agree. Your analogy of dance and the very delicate balance between the Feminine & Masculine is spot on. Mutual respect, and personal accountability from both partners , will ensure a happy & successful relationship. On the dance floor and in life!❤
Thank you for watching!!
This video is actually a gem, packed with GAME
Define the journey for her to follow...🙌
Yes!! Thanks for watching :)
this is women trying to run away from responsibility and accountability,submission goes beyond whether a man is a good leader or NOT
No. It doesn't. Even the animal kingdom knows that. A female kangaroo is not mating with the weaker male, she's going with the strongest one and the BEST one for the job.
@@soulspirationgoddess sorry we are NOT animals
@@soulspirationgoddess it does because because as long as submission is conditionally it cease being submission, and that is the role of a women in marriage. Lets say for example a man saying to his wife, I don't love you anymore because you did not listen to me. Then that love was not love at all at the first place. submission like love it is NOT conditionally.
@@dumazilehlatshwayo4593 Well this is reality, even the Bible says to be wise in our decisions. And no smart woman is submitting to an idiot. God bless.
Likewise NO man we love an arrogant woman who has been corrupted by feminism
The biblical notion of a husband loving his wife "as Christ loves his church" is unconditional. This means the husband cannot say, "I would love her if she did... X, Y, Z." Most all Christians understand and agree with this, namely, a husband cannot conditionally love his wife. BUT, the biblical teaching goes out the window when it comes to the wife's submission. Christian women typically assert that, "l would submit to my husband IF he would do... X, Y, Z" (e.g. have his "divine masculinity" operating) However, the biblical teaching is NOT conditional. Hence, I believe most Christian women are living in direct disobedience to God WHILE claiming to be good Christians.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. A husband safely leading and protecting his wife is a significant part of him loving her as Christ loves the church. If he’s not doing that then I’m not sure what he’s doing. Blessings!
I have to disagree with you on this one. The Biblical teaching of the Messiah and His assembly IS conditional. But His conditions are simple. To be saved, you must repent...and stay within the bounds of the Covenant that He gave. (10 Commandments.) If you (the assembly) go outside the bounds of the Covenant, very bad things could happen. So, as you can see here, the boundaries (conditions) of His love are made by the assembly keeping (through His grace) the Holy Covenant He created. This is why the original Hebrew Israelites did not need to say any “vows” in their wedding. The “”Vows” were included in the Covenant. Hence, not going outside of the tribe to marry. All you would do is have a party that was attended by both families and friends. And afterwards in private ...the 2 would become 1. In the Covenant. If they did this, submission was automated because BOTH are submitting to the Most High and He is now in control. Well thats the way marriage was intended, but now....not so much.
Yes it is unconditional, the caveat however is you get to choose your wife. God says "to your wife you should be unconditionally loving" but He doesn't force any particular woman on you. That's up to you. Basically, choose wisely. Where people mess up, me inculded, is we are terrible at choosing. We often choose based on superficial or at best miniscule information on the other person. I think its also why He commands that sex should be with someone you have married, this is to help you not get too attached with someone that isn't right and find yourself in a position where you are too involved to be able to stop a relationship if you figure out the person isn't right for you or you for them. Problem is by that time, many have already slept together, moved in or worse have a kid.
The bachata example is a great analogy, and it made the concept actually click in my head. However, I don’t even think that’s men’s biggest issue today with women. I think it’s that a lot of women are keeping us on rosters to use as they please, when they know we have feelings towards them. Would love to hear your take on that aspect.
This modern day feminist movement is to prove "we can do it too" and that also includes the dating habits that men had/have (promiscuity, playing games etc).. and frankly women have always been on men's "rosters" when it came to dating. You might disagree but I know BEFORE the age of the internet most women dated one guy, really started to like him only to realize she wasn't the only one he was dating. Women keeping rosters is a fairly new concept. I think women today are in a lot of ways mirroring men and its back firing a bit..
@@soulspirationgoddess thank you for pointing this out in retrospect - genuinely not seen anyone else on the internet state how much it has flipped with certain aspects of this gender war, that you put very well. Not finished the video yet, but loving it so far.
@@sadiegodwin205 I appreciate your comments Sadie! New video coming soon in the next few days for the ladies :)
Just stopped by because of the topic. Interesting video by the way.
Thank you, I’m glad you stopped by!
To test the man in an irrational way is a female privelege. But you can´t, as a woman, be unreasonable doing that. And you mest give him the prize when he finish his task: You must give him your submission. Then both are going to be happy: The man for having passed the test, the woman for having intelligently tested him, now knowing that he´s a valuable man that responds maturily to a test. Plus with a sensation of being in charge, because after all it´s you, the woman, that are i the lead, letting him lead.
Very eloquently stated.
Rule #1: Never believe that a fish know how to catch a fish.
And from my military experience (USMC & Army), subordinates have no idea what the leadership has to consider and prepare for enough to complain about it.
Your experience with dance has NOTHING TO DO with the leadership you are complaining about! It has to do with situational awareness. If he is focused on launching you into a move that causes a crash, how do YOU know that the crash happened because you hesitated in the middle of the move? Or because you stumbled? Or that your move was the one he expected you to do? At what point to YOU take accountability to your actions in the same situation?
And if you're still single with no household of your own, you have already lost in life.
And for your educational experience, a man would rather walk away from you than argue with you about your projected intelligence, experience, safety, or comfort. At that point, you will be deemed unreasonable, ruined, or worthless. As men, if we are truly interested in you, we will watch how you deal with everything -- friends, family, strangers, associates, enemies, benefactors, sponsors, and anyone whom you deem inconsequential. We make our decisions on what you do in the moment and based on habits.
If we see what we don't like long enough or bad enough, we will flush you down the toilet. A man's peace is his throneroom.
I do hope you get the lessons from what I posted. If I didn't care, I would not say anything to try to adjust your current line of thinking.
@@wesley-keithmullings442 thanks for stopping by!
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Really cool how you correlated partner dancing to the masculine / feminine dynamic....
So now I'm curious...
What would be your dictionary definition of:
1. Masculinity
2. Divinity
I ask that, not to argue, but for clarity and deeper insight into your perspective...
I would define masculinity as the logical planner and initiator and the feminine as the receiving force so that it can create and or birth something (be it an idea, a dance move or even us humans 😆). Thanks for watching!
The track record!!
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If you're watching this as a man, pause the video and do not proceed watching. I saw this lady and the title, and only clicked this to leave this message, never take dating advice from women. And never listen to what they say, only pay attention to what they do. As you were.
It’s actually solid advice but …🤷🏾♀️
I disagree. This is about the message, not the messenger. This presentation is a woman's perspective, to help men understand. Keep learning......
men HAVE TO... you will never hear females have to
the dance topic is too long i think, but its a good analogy. good luck
A dance lasts a few minutes and isn't your entire life into someone else's hands so stop making these absurd comparisions
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Thank you for your comment and for watching!
Will you marry me ? .................What an excellent presentation. Thank you. Complimentary teamwork..... a real connection. Many times it depends upon the situation.... Situational awareness.
Yes it absolutely does! Thank you for watching :)
Summary?
I’d say watch from the 3-8 minute mark for the jist. But even then you’re still missing key points.
¡¡La analogía que mencionas del baile (salsa o bachata) con la relación de pareja, es perfecta!! El saber llevar o liderar del hombre es muy importante para mantener la relación armoniosa y equilibrada, me ha gustado tu video, creo que puede tener una segunda parte.
Saludos Soul!! 🇵🇪
¡Me alegre que disfrutaste! Gracias por mirando Angel. 😌
why not ask for respect more than submission? no one listens to someone they dont respect and someone who doesn't know any better. women dont respect anyone who cant even take care of themselves. Why do we 'submit' to our parents? its because we respect them and their wisdom not because they are parents or they are older or their gender or whatever
I only use the word submission bc that’s what the podcasts love to talk about. But respect, trust, following someones lead; it all comes naturally when the person is solid.
Rest so he can take the reigns...😂😂 we lead you yes but you have legs and your own spatial awareness. Salsa represents the intertwined balance, not just being lead around
I'm sorry you didn't watch the video before commenting. But thank you for stopping by!
@soulspirationgoddess I did happily watch the video. What men want isnt Submission/dependency/liability so a women can "rest" as seen in salsa but submission/cooperation/teamwork. What men are looking for in a woman/wife is the example in the movie avatar. But I don't think you are ready for that talk.
@@whyisitneeded9012 A woman isn't "resting" in Salsa she's receiving instruction and performing the request. Which to me sounds like teamwork. Thank you for watching the video!
@soulspirationgoddess it sounds similar to a shepard and sheep? The sheep take instructions too. You see what I mean? If not then thanks for the video it was a a good watch
@@soulspirationgoddess you really do have a good balance of patience and humour in your responses - keep it up! ❤🙌th-cam.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f605.png
submission natural happens is NOT biblical its conditional
So in summary, it’s the man’s incompetence if the woman does notvsubmit! Ok, sis.
Well… 😆
It another one. Come on. Can we talk about something else.
What would you like me to talk about?
I just knew... As soon as she said.. LISTENNNN , we were in for Amazing, life altering advice....
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... and it was !!! 💚🤍💜💥✨
Thank you !!!!
My pleasure, thank you for watching!
It'd called Sacred Masculinity 🪶