The Rise and Fall of The Last Anglo-Saxon King | King Harold | Real Royalty
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- Tony Robinson reveals the real story behind the last great Anglo Saxon king. Far from being just the loser at the Battle of Hastings, Harold was a charismatic leader.
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I was listening so intently to the speaker that I never noticed the music. It is the difference between hearing and listening.
On the other hand, I had to listen VERY closely to the speaker to even be able to tell what he was saying. Concentration is not an adequate replacement for decent audio. Implying that it is is also ableist.
Unfortunately, I had to stop watching this video because it was so hard for me to understand what was said. I have a central auditory processing disorder, and the background music is simply too loud to be able to easily distinguish it from the narration.
Nah dawg that's poor audio mixing, not a lack of effort by the viewer.
The Cocktail Party Effect. This - however - is not a freaking cocktail party, or a music video, or even a bad corporate promotional film, it's a historical documentary on a serious subject. Not really complaining, because It's free, which I like, and the price is about right.
@@FreedomForever2010 They just laid some tinkling whale yoga massage music over the entire thing, with no rhyme or reason to it. Absolutely the worst example of this problem I've ever seen. He's a good presenter and it is an interesting subject, too bad. Less is more.
The greatest plot twist in history is that Harold Godwinson was actually the good guy
A man of his time, should he have won the battle of Hastings he would have indeed be 'Harold The Great'
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@@richardwilliams7990 People need to seriously confirm where the body of Alfred the Great is.
It breaks my heart, the dissolution of the monasteries. 😩. Not because of religion, but destroying those beautiful buildings. Those were old even in Henry Tudors’ age. And then his sons’ reign, if you can call it that, finished them off, putting the icing on the cake, destroying wonderful old stained glass windows, roods. So sad. But it still happens today. The new trying to obliterate the old, they don’t care how old it is.😢
Mango T It’s devastating to think of it. The hours and hours of manpower that went into creating them - all just pulled down.
As symbols, they were ambivalent. Effectively the civil administration, social security and education regimes of the day, but also the symbol of avarice beyond belief. Without them, the church had to revert to its proper purpose of proclaiming the Gospel - frankly, that was worth a whole lot more than the destruction of a few baubles.
I wouldn't so lightly dismiss Edward... He may have been short lived, but the boy was astonishingly intelligent, driven and had a clear vision of where he wanted to take the country and how he'd do it.
Had he lived longer, he'd have been one of the more significant monarchs in our history... For better and for worse.
EnglishTMTB I have no doubt he was precocious, he seems like he was very smart. But he wasn’t really in charge, so he wasn’t really a monarch so say. But he seemed pretty cold blooded and frankly emotionally flat to me from his diaries. But we’ll never know. It’s all conjecture at this point, eh?
@@mangot589 indeed, we'll never truly *know* but it's interesting to delve into.
Edward's diaries at times give the impression of an autistic coldness/aloofness - of course that tentative hypothesis could never be proven, but it would explain a few things...
It's such a short reign and much of it under guardianship that you're indeed correct to point out that it's very difficult to judge how well he would actually have accomplished his intended plans - many kings have had much the right ideas and failed in implementing them successfully, suffering in reputation in perpetuity as a result (John, for example, had many flaws but with a little luck on his side could easily have gone down as a great)
Ugh, whoever edited this did a terrible job. I can hardly hear the speaker over the music.
This is not the original music . th-cam.com/video/eqpNSgfPOgM/w-d-xo.html This is the same episode without the shit music,
all i can hear is Baldrick. I keep waiting for him to tell us he has a cunning plan.
@@leesloan8216 May you have glory in throughout your whole life.
Pardon?
@@leesloan8216 oh that is SO much better. Thank you.
Tony Robinson - always excellent! But why is the music allowed to drown his voice?
Gisela Tranchell yes!!! I had to stop watching I couldn’t stand the music😣
Agree!!! Tony is the BEST
THANK YOU! This is a continuing problem with these documentaries.
I love Tony, excellent presenter but the music was too loud
Gisela Tr. Tony Robinson obviously did not produce this video or the balance would be better. He is a producer and actor and does historical narratives but the sound is generally much better than this.
The last Anglo-Saxon king of England was Edgar Aetheling, grandson of King Edmund Ironside, who was elected by the Witenagemot after Harold's death. He ruled from Oct. 15, 1066 - Dec. 17, 1066.
Not native didn't belong there
This documentary completely ignores or fails to mention that in 1014 or 1015 (?) A large Danish, Viking invasion force led by Viking king Canute the Great, probably one of the greatest of all Viking kings, chieftains, Jarls in Scandinavia throughout the entire Viking Age, conquered England, and large areas of Scotland and Ireland, too. Sure, they needed the remaining Anglo-Saxon nobility, leadership and didn't uproot or dispossess them of their lands, castles, titles, and honors but Canute's Danish Viking conquerors could have done what William the Conqueror eventually did, for centuries, Viking or Scandinavian influence was deeply-entrenched in northern England, Scotland, and Ireland with Swedish, Danish and Norwegian ex-pat settlements scattered all over British Isles and that influence remained strong well until the modern era, past the Tudor and Stuart eras. England in 1066 had a very strong Scandinavian influence culturally, politically, and even economically. During the Viking Age, England remained one of Scandinavian Norse Vikings explorers, raiders, and conquerors most favorite targets as well as being as their first. It was the Vikings who founded Edinburgh, Glasgow, Erie, Dublin, Belfast, Carrie, and Cork in Ireland, and it was arguably under their control during the Danelaw, that Viking rulers of York and Bath turned both cities into major commercial and mercantile centers. Most individual Vikings, if you'd ask them the right way, would describe themselves as traders, merchants, and explorers as much as marauding raiders pillaging, looting, and decimating villages, cities, towns, churches, monasteries, Abbeys.
So, the whole linguistic, cultural influences of 1066 England and most of British Isles wasn't predominantly of Anglo-Saxon influence or descent as it had been maybe 5 centuries earlier when Saxons invaded and conquered what was left of once-prosperous, late antiquity, now-abandoned Roman Britain,,who themselves, seemingly on a whim, had managed to finish under Claudius in 43 C.E. What Julius Ceaser failed to achieve nearly a century earlier-conquer Britain, which they systematically and ruthlessly did, albeit in a piecemeal fashion after Boudicca's Revolt by the end of the 1st century C.E and would control until leaving Britannia in 410 C.E. In some respects, the ruling Anglo-Saxon dukes, lords, and gentry were being gradually replaced, or possibly faced being overwhelmed by Scandinavian culture and traditions as they'd replaced the Romans 6 centuries earlier until William the Conqueror's Normans (Viking descendants themselves) came along and upturned England in one of its biggest cultural, political paradigm shifts in its recorded history. Far more consequential then even Henry VIII's break with the Catholic Church, if you examine the actual reasons for Henry's dissolution and confiscation of monasteries, Abbeys, and churches it was far more complex than what some historians present it as now. England had been a hotbed of anticlericalism for centuries by John Wycliffe and the Lollards movement, in the Middle Ages, so Henry took advantage of that intense dislike or perceived hatred towards clerical corruption, abuse, and cronyism that was widely shared by English nobles in early 16th century.
England was also where the Investiture Crisis in late 11th century began when William I (same William the Conqueror), disputed that the Vatican and only them had to right to nominate their picks to be bishops, priests, or abbots in monasteries, William believed that since England was one of his domains, he should have the right to nominate his own bishops and priests for high-ranking clerical positions, most notably, the Bishop of Canterbury.
@@davidroberts7282 no he explicitly mentions Canutes conquest near the beginning
Yes but he was never crowned, therefore he cannot count, like Lady Jane Grey
@@mamavswild Nonsense. So Edward VIII was never king then? He was never crowned. That's not what makes one a monarch.
Idiots who call Harold an oath-breaker don't realize he took the oath under duress. He was William's captive and had no other choice.
Not if held under duress.
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From a legal standpoint no. Under law. Even morally.
@ I totally agree with you
Harold, was tricked by a cheat. William the Bastard.
@ Legal? Where? In Zimbabwe?
There definitely should be a monument to Harold. A big stonking monument.
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The background music is way too loud.
th-cam.com/video/eqpNSgfPOgM/w-d-xo.html this is the same episode without the shit music
@@leesloan8216 I wish I had seen your link earlier. This version is just un-watchable.
Fuck off yea
The music was so loud on this video that I couldn’t hear the commentator
Agree: Sound was so unbalanced that I did not attempt to share it on my Facebook account.
Especially at 31:30 WTF
This is what happens when you have a government of men instead of government of laws.
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fire that sound engineer!
Yes... Please.......... out of a Cannon, into a Brick Wall
Fuck you
Wow harsh much!
@@tywyatt2228 You must be the sound engineer. You should change careers ... maybe emptying trash is your calling ?
@@Rorkazak Good one much funny so smartness
I enjoy these videos but agree, background music is too loud in places.
Interesting vid. Music's too loud, distracting from the narrator. Locations make this a great watch!
Found out the other day that a lot of leading Anglo-Saxons had been displaced by the earlier invasion of Canute and his Scandinavians -one family had to take refuge in Byzantium and Hungary and eventually returned when Anglo-saxons got back in power -Edward Atheling or someone like that.
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“Who will get your kingdom?”
Alexander: “The strongest!”
Edward: *“lol I dunno, that guy I guess?”*
Anglo-Saxon kings did not inherit the title, they were chosen by vote from a council of Ealdorman called the "Witan" (which translates roughly to "wise men") where they would choose the most capable ruler from any man who had a claim to the title. They regularly held meetings called the "Witenagemot", where the king would also often defer to them in matters of administration of his realm.
Maybe you dont know but Haralds daughter Gita deserted to denmark where she met russian prince Vladimir Monomach.. she became his wifein1074 and went to my hometown of Smolensk where she died in1107
How interesting!
@Anthony Tsatsis o no she was never brought to England.. her husband then became king of russia.. as well as her beloved son Mstislav whome she called Harald.. besides Smolensk where she died its western russia
WOW that was very interesting!
@@user-hy3km8bq9x she is also the reason that the Kings of England descend from Harold. Her granddaughter married the king of Hungary (Geza ii) from there Harold's descendants sat the thrones of Hungary, France, Aragon and, of course, England.
I can barely hear the speaker. The music was too loud. I really wanted to hear this history.
This is quite difficult to hear in spots, the background music drowns out the narration.
Please more More more of the early Kings! King Offa , Alfred the Great !
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Fun Fact: Harold was also the last Orthodox King of England. Did you know Alfred the Great is recognized in Holy Orthodoxy as a Saint? Along with Patrick, Fergus, Columba, Briget and all the other Anglo-Saxon and Celtic Saints.
Never, ever let anyone tell you that in order to be Orthodox you must be Eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies.
Saint John Maximovich The Wonderworker, Archbishop of Shanghai and SanFrancisco.
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Bishop Heahmund the Anglo-Saxon made famous by the TV show Vikings is also a saint in Eastern Orthodoxy.
Anglo-Saxons have history and a small genetic population in the east too. After 1066 they sailed, raided and fought heathens around the Mediterranean before heading to the Byzantine Empire and pledging themselves to the Emperor after they helped him win a battle at sea and fight invaders outside Constantinople's walls.
He offered them land in Crimea he had just lost if they could win it back for him which they did and they called it New England. They were the majority of the Varangian Guard from 1066 until it’s end.
@@BBeowulf I never knew some Anglo-Saxons migrated to areas of Crimea after the Norman Conquest. That is so interesting!
For those interested in delving deeper into this story I heartily recommend 1066: The Hidden History in the Bayeux Tapestry by Andrew Bridgeford
back ground music a little to loud I love these DOCS
this is very educational thank you tony
A true innovator - he even hunted with a Harris's Hawk (native to the southwestern U.S.)
How on Earth did he manage that?!
Harold Godwinson was actually Harold II of England, Harold Harefoot was Harold I of England, 1035 - 1040. This documentary fails to call Godwinson Harold II.
As an American whose family came from the British isles I would love to go visit is England and see all that history...
The poor music choices and balance was a shock because Tony Robinson is a producer and voice narrator. He is also a huge fan of King Harold Big Time.
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The battle of hastings is to me one of those awful occasions when evil men made the world take a wrong turn a bit like the assasination of John F Kennedy
You really think the Normans had nothing but bad things to offer England? What about their organizational genius? Their building prowess? Their patronage of the arts? The French language and all it has contributed to our modern speech?
@@Vesnicie The Normans offered the English nothing beyond oppression brutality and hunger I'll give them the chimmney, but you only need a castle if someone is attacking you or as in this case you are oppressing someone else like f'instance putting out a mans eyes for taking a rabbit to feed his hungry family The Normans were a bunch of greedy bastards who stole England then stole Wales then Ireland , A lot of Scotland .Went on to try to steal France (Eventually had to spit that one out) Left very little but a wide wake of war death and misery accross northern Europe.The world would have been much better if William the Bastard had died in that battle rather than Harold.
chitlika funny you say that as the last few Anglo-Saxon kings (excluding the danish periods) were notorious for being some of the worst rulers of the age; they took a powerhouse of the 10th century under the first king of England to a kingdom which couldn’t even muster an army to meet the Danes when they arrived (Cnut the great for example). These Anglo-Saxon kings you seem to love so much are no better than the other kings from the birth of kingdoms till the 20th century; kings have always worked for their own and their close circles interest. It’s funny you’re likely a common peasant with a common lineage (as are almost all modern Englishmen) but you cling to ‘royalty’ that in all likelihood never game a damn about any of your ancestors
@@sheryaarahmed3109 Who says I love the Saxon kings so much? Hardicanute Harold harefoot and Aethelred were bad and ineffective rulers. Edmund Ironside would probably have been a good king but twas not to be. I certainly think that Harold Godwinson would have been a better king than William the bastard as far the average Englishman was concerned , Possibly one of the best kings of England
I hate the Normans for their arrogance their brutality and their unshakeable belief in their entitlement to the lands property and even the lives and bodies of other peoples
chitlika In truth for the truly average person (not the low tier baron rather the farmers/peasants/even minor merchant men) I doubt life changed very much, most just had a new lord of a lord of a lord. The only commoners who might’ve been affected are the fjords men as they might’ve provided resistance to the early rule via rebellions/manpower. Arrogance by definition is something a person clinging to ‘royalty/nobility’ has far more of than any commoner & well brutality is nothing new of a king even for the normans & I know William and his Norman’s had a lot more of it than some. In reality the only reason people may claim he was more brutal than most is cause they can easily identify and explain this type of brutality, I mean would actively killing the people you rule over by having them pay strangling food (/other forms of )taxes multiple times just so you can divy the spoils between your friends not count as particularly brutal? You can claim that of all rulers, Norman or not.
Really interesting when you can hear it above the music. If it ever gets re-released please turn it down.
I always love it when I find a BBC documentary and Tony is the host.
It was made by Channel 4
I really enjoyed the closeups of the Bayeux Tapestry. I don't think i'd ever seen it in such detail.
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History brought me here, the awful background music drove me away, I must improve my lip reading skills.
Good , stay gone!
Same lol. I have to keep rewinding to catch what he was saying over the music!
@@tywyatt2228 Moron
That short speech given at the end of this documentary said so much.
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I agree with another comment: please turn down the music so we can always hear what you are saying. Nice video, mostly.
Wonderful documentary
Who are the confused people who think blasting music over the narrator is a good idea? Terrible production.
The documentary itself was good in quality and content but backround music and sound effects block the narration.
I always enjoy these videos even though I m from the US.
The music and background noise is so goddamn loud I can’t even hear the narrator! 😒 Noticed this right away. Also, this would make a great movie
Superb analysis and commentary.
The Saxons were enslaved by the Norman's as a result of this struggle.
It is shocking how many British kings and queens were totally dominated by someone outside the royal family. In this case, the Archbishop of Canterbury heavily influenced Edward the Confessor.
Personally... I never noticed the music until 41:47. That was when I started to read everyone's comments ABOUT the music.
AWESOME job Tony. New sub here❤
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I have always been partial to Harald. Maybe because he was such a badass or maybe because he had a shit of an older brother (makes him seem so...human somehow) or maybe because my dad had the same name. Or maybe because how he died seems sooooo painful....yikes. Whatever it is, it's weird, as I'm of Norman descent lol.
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This would make a really cool tv show plot!
Couldn't hear much over the music when the music was playing.
I keep waiting for: "I have a cunning plan."
OldColdWarrior 🤣🤣🤣 I wish they would do one more season in present day!
Hahahahaha.... 👍
Well, he probably said it but the music drowned him out.
🤭😅😂
@@alexmidence274 That was his cunning plan.
Love me some Tony Robinson
Not only the music is too loud but it's bad . not at all suited for a historical documentary. it's modern music.
love the music so much I downloaded the whole album😏🙉
sadly, due to the Phenominally Poor quality of balance between Speaker and Music, about 2/3 of the video is unwatchable due to how annoying it is.
The man editing the music for this video was having too much fun
Awesome video
I've been binge watching this excellent channel which I've recently discovered and all the videos I've watched so far have been brilliantly produced. What the heck happened to this one and how was it allowed to be posted when the narrator is basically inaudible whenever there's music playing in the background? I stopped watching after a few minutes...
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I can't hear what he's saying because the music is TOO LOUD
I can't imagine attending a 1000 year old church!
Great programme but peppered with adverts, so many so I stopped watching half way through.
Running the computer's audio thru an external amp and speakers, as well as manually boosting Dbs in the speech range thru a computer's software EQ and cutting frequencies outside of it - or just selecting a EQ preset for voice optimization, if available - can help some of those having difficulty hearing what's being said. It's what I do, and I have no difficulty hearing the spoken portions of videos like this one.
The Music is supposed to compliment the frequency of the Narrator.
really great informative documentary
Very hard to listen over the music.
Im only here cuz mah mom forced me to since Im not going to school for 2 weeks
Smart Mom. You will thank her in 20 years when you are at a cocktail party, and some historians are chatting about the Battle of Hastings, and you can just drop all this knowledge on them. Plus you know why our world is so insane, our rulers have been looting and pillaging for thousands of years.
@@tranzco1173 that took so long to read xD
@@deznuts6921 wow. 🤔 And you are the future. 😒😣🤦🏽♀️
Because God forbid you should learn anything.
If you are not interested in history, you probably don't understand how this history is affecting your own life today.
I seem to remember a Time Team dig in the town of Battle, the topography indicates that Harold fell in the area of the roundabout at the highest ground of this area, not the Abbey grounds, which have yielded no battle debris. Interestingly, the 'fosse' or dip in the ground just to the NW of the roundabout is almost certainly where dozens of jubilant Norman knights tumbled with their steeds and were butchered by the infuriated Saxons leaving the field, doing what they could to avenge their King. Because of a thousand years of occupation of this ground, it is to be expected that found objects of war were dispersed, but a few items were found by locals and Time Team.
Well worth a re-watch. Cheers.
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I was in Wilts. several times. Visited Malmesbury & Devizes.
Tony Robinson is wonderful but the music made it hard to really hear and comprehend him :(
The terrible audio overlay is probably designed to hide the fact that the video isn't owned by this mob. Channel 4 originally broadcast it in 2002 as Fact or Fiction: King Harold (which is why Tony looks so young). You can watch the real version and all others in the series on the Channel 4 website.
Great show, but the background music mutes Toni Robinson throughout. Do better.
Ugh, a great documentary spoiled by dreadful sound mixing. I gave up after only 10 minutes.
Music and some other background sounds make it difficult for me to hear, much less understand what the primary narrator is saying. He's much too soft-spoken for such noise.
I tried to watch- the music is just too loud.
Wait did you say he keelhauled him? It's hard to pick out bc of the messed up sound.
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we`re not here for the music but it overpowers his voice and the result is not a pleasant experience ...we`re here for the kwnoledge but had to stop watching. Please just try to fix it next time
Music too loud or not, I had to keep watching for it was way too interesting to stop
@@Helpmefindmoa Good for you, why not just tell everybody how amazingingly interesting you found this vid instead of trying to confront me...
@@Shungabali confront you? About? Ok let's do this. Lol like I can be William and you can be Harold with the arrow in the eye and the missing leg haha
@@Helpmefindmoa William you lost all of your teeth😁 . Take care we may continue the siily argument in another vid
@@Shungabali but my listening skills still good. Will do 😛
Why is the music so loud? We can't hear what you are saying. Is music necessary at all for an educational video?
Can it not be history without without our "3 days to do it Tony"?
Very interesting
Sad that King Harold died the way he did.
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Since nobody else mentioned it, i will. THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD!
But Harold Godwinson got the last laugh as his descendant (Queen Elizabeth II) currently occupies the British throne and his descendants have occupied the throne since the 14th century via Edward III through his Mom, Isabella of France aka the She-Wolf of France....
Music in background makes it hard to hear
Very difficult to hear the speaker. Finally had to start the cc.
very nice pinned remark, but the background music is to strong to hear the speaker. sorry to say, but it is a bad job from your sound mixer.
the documentary I like very much !
always the same problem - the music volume is too high in relation to the speaker!!
Y’all should REALLY look into keeping the music way in the background. The speaker can’t be understood because of it
I've watched Pillars of the Earth several times which is also based on these Kings and rivals. Ian McShane is convincing as the evil archbishop. Its a mini serious that is still showing on demand. Highly recommend it
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the editor of this video was drunk, but I don't know what was the producer like
Boldrick!!! ♥
Editor-in-chief please reduce background music to 30% of voice
The sound editing on this is atrocious. I can't believe no one on the production team noticed this.
Stop the loud music! So difficult to focus.
Love The Tony but I don't know who mixed the sound for these videos. Saw another one with him about Robin Hood that also were really badly mixed. The sound/ music is always appreciated but it's way too loud. Struggling to hear what he's saying.
Edward III was a direct decendant of Harold through his mother Isabella of France.
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Is there any way to make the music lower? It drowns out the voice of the narrator.
19:35 - what composition is this?
Catastrophic failure of judgement by the English elite. They did not need to offer battle. Do what Fabius Maximus did to defeat Hannibal. Keep him bottled up in Kent while you gather your strength. They could have put three armies into the field of the same size as William's if they hadn't been in such a hurry to march south. But the Stamford Bridge victory gave them Dutch courage. They thought they were invincible. Tragedy.
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shame about the loud music level
Can somebody turn the voice volume down a little bit? Is far too loud compared with the music in the background.
I'm not sure if I have mentioned this before, but why on earth is the "background" music SO loud. It is so distracting but otherwise thoroughly enjoyed it.
Who the fuck are you?
@@tywyatt2228 who the fuck are you? Moron!
Made it to the 14 minute mark until I couldn't take the loud music anymore !
You don't want your history enlivened with a long disconnected Enya song?
This is how you ruin a good production by not paying attention to the sound.