What Ableton is MOST valuable for, IMO, is the ability to break your songs into sections with midi triggers to launch the specific sections. So you can repeat or skip sections on the fly…making tracks much more flexible.
Can you do this in any other DAW? Maybe Reaper in particular? I’m working remotely with a music team who needs backing tracks and I told them to use Ableton Live but they’re insisting that Reaper does the job.
You can trigger next scene in launch setting of the clip. Just click on the clip to open the clip panel, expand "Launch" (between "Audio" and "Clip") and set a Follow Action (Next in your case). You can select all clip in the scene to apply the setting on all clip at once!
thanks for your video it's really amazing. for your question about starting the next scene there is an option called ( Follow Action ) and from it you can tell Ableton what to do after finished the clip , it can go to the next or the previous or shuffle.
I don't know if it's not on 10, but in Ableton 11 on the Master track in that session view you can double click a scene and enable "Follow Action" and set the action to be either Stop, Play, Previous, Next, and more. So let's say to make it play through 2 songs on it's own and stop before the 3rd you'd set the Follow Action to be "Next" on the first 2 songs and stop on the 3rd.
Good tutorial! I don't know of an easy way to auto start the next clip in Session view. However, a lot of people use arrangement view instead and just add all the songs into it one after another. This isn't very good if you have a random order to your songs but it's great for repeating sections of the songs because you can set up a midi automation track that repeats to the previous locator and you can use a midi controller to turn that repeat track on and off as you want to. It's a great setup for things like worship bands that have a small but specific set each week. I wouldn't want to try it with a gigging band that performs like 40 songs a night.
Very helpful video! Currently working on getting setup to use Ableton Live for backing tracks, and click, and to also send sync'd MIDI commands to change processor presets .. Thanks again!
Hi Scott, great video. Over the last few years I built something similar in Session view which has a scene for each song and 2 tracks of audio (one mono track with click/cues and one stereo with music parts) plus 5 tracks of MIDI lighting cues that go over IAC to a DMX app. However the MIDI messages for Ableton's scene launch come from a custom webserver running on the same laptop as Ableton and the triggering device is an iPad that runs a custom web app off the webserver. The icing on the cake is that every scene is running at 120BPM but some clip content by necessity features sudden or gradual tempo variations throughout some songs and the lighting cues have to follow the audio. I've been meaning to make a video about it for... years.
Kinda late to the party (at Live 11, go figure), I like producing in Logic and was about to set a huge Logic session to trigger BTs live, but this is the video I needed. Following and thankful, brother.
Im still using Live 9. but it might be named something different on 10 and 11. You can use "follow action" since you're using session view. You can use that command to auto start the next scene.
should update and use follow action to get the clips to play after the other clips. You can play all the clips or just the ones you want to follow. I love using follow action
wow this vid is saving my ass right now. Great explanation. Also a Logic guy but having to learn to run tracks in Ableton for the biggest gig of my life ughh
You showed briefly what your ableton set looks like with video, multiple stems, in ear routing and lighting. Would you do a video going into some of that? I’m running video for a live show in ableton now and looking to use lights in the future. Plus the idea of running my ears through ableton sounds intriguing. Would love to see what your set up looks like Thanks man
The function you are looking for to automatically start the next clip or master clip is called follow. You can program it to strat the next clip with „next“ or any other clip with „jump2 and then add the corresponding number of the clip that you want to start. Hope that helps.
thank youuuuu for this!! I would love a video (or maybe you have one) on how to sync video graphics with songs. Thank you again I had been sifting through the internet looking for just this info
I have an old video on how I do that in logic: th-cam.com/video/Wnwo3gjjbMs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MsfQQakZfSsQ3hyb I’ve been using EboSuite with Ableton personally
This is exactly what I needed to know :-) One question: the Loop Community Track Rig looks really good. How do I go about having the tracks in my in-ear afterwards? I guess everything goes to the sound engineer's mixing desk and he is then giving us back the signals into our in-ears, is that right?
Yeah it’s just however you get the IEM feed. If you can build an IEM rack splitter, it’s definitely a better way to go: th-cam.com/video/XQjFhkQTVP8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lSwZL5Ful6YRzZa-
ehhhmmm Scott: I really love this channel (great videos f.i.about Stagetraxx as well as M-Live B.Beat) but what I don't quite get: in your Stagetraxx video you mention you use it for your live shows but in this video you mention you use Ableton live. Do you use both?
@@ScottUhlMusic off the top of my head when I've loaded songs in arrangement view I thought that they just played one after the other. Is that what you're speaking about in the video? That they don't automatically go to the next song?
Great video, I've used Pro Tools for years and have just been scared of Ableton. Question: should you be able to see the audio files in the Arrangement window after dragging them in? When I switch to that view I don't see any audio files even though I can hear them playing. It's really weird.
Great guide, I am wondering if you can actually make like a midi mapping where you want to play the chorus two times if the gig requires it. Like you finish the chorus once and instead of finishing the track/song, you just press a button and you repeat the chorus
I noticed that you can set a tempo and time signature per clip in 11. Do you use this too? Love the video! Even for an on-and-off user since 2007. Sometimes its good to go back to the basics and re-discover.
Hi Scott. Love your content. Hope you can tell me or make a video on how you made the click.. I couldn't figure out how to set a clip that runs for a couple of bars then starts the song
I make all my backing tracks in Logic, and then use ableton for live with my original stuff. Here’s my video guide on making backing tracks: th-cam.com/video/nw8wZfFSQ2w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gLPw1yI6KhCcPzDc And an old video of mine about click track: th-cam.com/video/g1d56KLtmw0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TRFqATOH7yQj2pLr
When you talk about Ableton playing the next scene automatically, I assume this is to play the next song? I've always used arrangement view, which allows you to flow seamlessly between songs.
Yeah, you can do that in arrangement view, but not in session view. Session view is definitely the way to go so you can reorganize setlists and stuff like that for sure, which is why I wish we could do that in session view
Scott - love this video! Any recommendations for midi controllers for drummers who are at the kit and want to trigger both playing and advancing songs on a computer/in ear set up?
AMAZING VIDEO! so helpfull, could I use this with say a 2 channel output interface? CLICK & TRACK on output 1 (set as master output) for the bands IEM, then TRACK on output 2 for FOH? thanks x
Hi Scott, thanks for your video. I'm learning to use Ableton for backing track with Behringer XAir18. I did not understand why I need a channel out for each stem I want to use. You have 5 stems and you use five out. But why don't you route all the stems to, example, channel 17/18?
Is there a possibility to trigger next song by a drum trigger for example roland kt-10, so i could connect it to audio interface’s input, ant when it gets hit, it starts next song? Thank you for your help :)
So are you no longer just using 2 channels out? Will Ableton allow mono panning tracks/click? Band is a 4-piece with 4 vocals. We have an XR18, and we don't have enough inputs if we use individual channels per stem, especially if we mic the drums.
Hi Scott, great video, thank you!! I've an issue, may I organize my backing tracks in arrangement view like you show us and at the same time record my guitar and voice during the all live show? How can I do that? Thanks
You can click and drag the audio and hit the shortcut (I can’t remember, I think it’s tab?) to switch between session and arrangement and you can drop any audio/midi between the two views
Hi Scott, I have another question for you. I used to work with Arrangement View as I need to send midi commands to let Helix changes my guitar preset. How it is possible to do the same in session view? Thank you
Do you know how to get the behringer fcb1010 to work in Ableton live 12 ? It shows up on midi devices but when in midi mapping it wont assign nothing 🤔 thanks 😁
What version of Ableton are you using? I think they added scene follow actions to Ableton 11, if you have an earlier version I think the way you do it with a midi loopback is the only way to play next scene automatically.
Was playing around some time with _live_ - lots of cool options. Maybe some songs should be good for arrangements on the fly with loops... I don't like all songs to run through their fixed form... just a little jamming ... At least I'm thinking of letting a song play to a certain part, where it enters a loop, like for soloing, and then by footswitch you just exit the loop and play the song to its end.. do you think its possible with Ableton live?
Yeah you can, I use ableton live for my tracks, midi, click, lighting, video, and for controlling my in ear monitor mix. I try not to have many plugins on audio tracks in ableton while performing live, but you definitely can 👍
Thanks! And You’ll need to manually setup the click and not use the built in click for ableton. I know there’s a way to automate the click in ableton, but I don’t remember how.
Nice. But how would i add midi control and program changes into the session view? I'd love to use session view instead of arrangement view because of the ability to reorder the playlist and the ability to stop after each song. Or would i have to use the arrangement view then? Like: Not only sending out 1 programchange, but multiple during one song
Ok please please please do a an advanced video showcasing your own bands Ableton file. Im super curious on Video integration! (I already do click, tracks, lights and pedalboard program changes). Also in Ableton 11 there is Follow actions which are an easy way of progressing songs without using the IAC driver. Im currently using the IAC system but I hate clouding up my system with extra midi data so Im probably going to switch to follow actions for tempo chances and eventually non-stop blocks of tunes.
Does that work for the master scene? I can do that for each individual track, but not just “change when all the stems are finished.” And for video I use EboSuite, but that’s DEFINITELY overkill for that program haha, it’s just what I got used to using. You need a max for live device for it to work
@@ScottUhlMusic Im happy to report that it works on the master scene! You have to double click on "Master" or the name of the scene to see the "master" follow action. Then you have to program the correct number of measures before it switches to the next one. My eventual goal is to program every song with a follow action like this and then to add scenes that "stop" playback so I can talk a length about the merch booth. 🤣
@@ColinDean1 I tried it, and double clicking the master scene does NOT bring up "master" follow action... is this something just in Ableton 11? Thanks for letting me know. I'm curious why it doesn't show up on my end.
@@ScottUhlMusic Hmmm. Ive definately found it "fiddly" to get to the feature. First I double click on the work "master" (in the top right corner), then I double click on the name of the scene and the "follow action" button should appear in the bottom left corner of Ableton. Hope this helps! Im also Ableton Live 11 Standard Build 11.3.4
Hi Scott! Great video! I have a question, I’m totally new to ableton, in my band we do live looping with a simple looper, example: I’m recording the guitar chords while we play the chorus and later I use those chords to solo over them. Is there a way to loop the whole backing track so I can extend a certain section to solo over it and then click something to continue the track? Example: intro - verse - chorus - verse - chorus - looped chorus for a solo x2 or whatever is needed - chorus etc Thanks so much
Thanks! I haven’t looped a section of a song in ableton with tracks, but I would imagine just setting each scene for each part of the song would work? Scene for the main part of the song, and then when it gets to the solo it just loops until you trigger the next scene (likely with midi) 👍
With Ableton Live in this method, could I just route all my stems to output 1and 2 in stereo so I keep control of my mix and send the cues and clics out 3 and 4? This way front of house wont remix my sends and I can keep control as if it would be a single file, but have the flexibility if the bass player doesn't show up to unmute the bass... Right?
What’s the value of Arrangement view over session view? Some people prefer it. I definitely prefer arranging songs per each scene in session view. Curious why others like arrangement view more?
Great breakdown and the controller samples look like the 2 ways I was considering triggering these as well: by myself (as guitarist), or by my drummers (pad surface). I don['t have either of those 2 control surfaces yet and am doing research which leads to a question I could use your POV on: Looking at the Akai MPK Mini MK2 for this use and as a controller for QLC+ for DMX lighting. it comes bundled with Ableton Live Light 2 which looked like it supports 8 audio tracks and a bunch of MIDI. Do you feel this might be enough to get me off the ground without having to spend extra for higher cost separate purchase?
@@ScottUhlMusic My sets tend to be 45-60 min so you've raised an important question. I've just dug around a bit and don't seem to have found a reference to anything 30-minute related. Can you elaborate a little on where it applies so I can better locate it to read up and see if it's something I will want to workaround? Many thanks!
But this also means that you can not decide to loop an 8 bar inside a song ? ... you have to play as is ... if someone misses the intro to a verse ,.. you cant bring the verse back in the next 4 bars for exemple ?
That’s true with a lot of backing tracks, however, you definitely can get creative and loop parts of songs using ableton. This is just a beginners guide, as that is more advanced. I plan to eventually do a video on the topic at some point
Why are some of my tracks out of sync? When I upload them into logic, they are all lined up, but some of them go out of sync when I upload and play on abelton. I've made sure warp is off as well. Any pointers in what is going on?
I can do consulting which can be booked on my website. It depends what you need to know about ableton. I know some stuff but not as much as I know about Logic Pro
Hey Scott! Thanks for another amazing video. How would Ableton be more beneficial than for example Logic's live loops page? I'm just curious because it seems to me that everything that you showed should be replicable in Logic and I don't wanna pay for the Ableton licence if not necessary 😅 Also are there any benefits from using Ableton instead of Stage Traxx 3? I'm little bit worried of Stage Traxx crashing in the middle of the song on iPad so would rather prefer the Logic/Ableton on laptop but the benefits of syncing with the lyrics and broadcasting it to other members are huge! Also no need to take the laptop with me since I'll have the iPad anyway 😂 I'm just scared the iPad (9th gen) won't handle the tracks reliably. Any feedback would be much appreciated!
I honestly haven’t used the Live Loops in logic, so I’m not sure. And stage Traxx 3 is still what I use when I do covers! It’s an incredible app. I use ST3 for covers and ableton for my ridiculously complicated original music live show 😅
@@ScottUhlMusic i just managed somehow. I went to View>Scene Tempo and Time Signature. I just checked that option and it showed the tempo and time signature at the right and i changed it. It worked
is it really necessary click, cues, and separate tracks to trigger a simple playback? I can't understand what you can do or why you need those separations, if it's just karaoke. What is the risk of using a simple stereo playback, the song itself already has the "click" implicit, do you really have to record the name of the song on the tracks to "remember" it? I said this cause it could be achive with less and cheaper hardware.
You don’t need to if you don’t want it, no. But my drummer prefers to have click much louder than the cues. When we sent them both out together, he didn’t want the cues as loud as they would be when he turned up the click. So the separation of that is nice. A singer wants more cues than click. It’s not “karaoke”, it’s for live band performances. So there isn’t always a beat going for them. And I’ve seen WAYYYY too many bands try to play to backing tracks without a click, and the wedge isn’t loud enough or something and they lose it.
Quick tip to make the BPM setting easier: Don't right click > edit launch tempo, instead just drag the edge of that master column to the left a little and a separate box to type in the BPM for each scene appears. Saves a little bit of time and look less cluttered.
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What Ableton is MOST valuable for, IMO, is the ability to break your songs into sections with midi triggers to launch the specific sections. So you can repeat or skip sections on the fly…making tracks much more flexible.
That definitely is huge!
Can you do this in any other DAW? Maybe Reaper in particular? I’m working remotely with a music team who needs backing tracks and I told them to use Ableton Live but they’re insisting that Reaper does the job.
@@VincenzodeLeonyes. In Reaper you would be using "Smart Markers" to simulate a clip launch system
Best video I've seen on using AL live !
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for this video
Great video! please a beginner guide to use ableton to trigger the lights and guitar pedal boards?
Noted! Thanks for watching!
What a masterful job explaining this. So many of these videos are incomprehensible to beginners. Thank you for your work!
Thank you 🙏 that was my goal, so I’m glad to hear that!
This is by far one of the best video tutorials for Live Backing Tracks!!! Thanks for your time and knowledge sharing Scott....!!!!
Thank you!
Again, your tutorial helped a newbie with understanding both the possible configurations. Awesome details and clarity. T😮hank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I was figuring out how to handle with backing tracks on live sessions, this will help me a lot. Thanks! 🇧🇷
You can trigger next scene in launch setting of the clip. Just click on the clip to open the clip panel, expand "Launch" (between "Audio" and "Clip") and set a Follow Action (Next in your case). You can select all clip in the scene to apply the setting on all clip at once!
Thanks! I believe that’s only in 11… but I’m on ableton 10 still. So I need to update 🤘
i think you can do it in ableton 10 too
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@@ScottUhlMusic no, not that I know of. Its possible since v 9 actually
Just adding to the praise in the comment section. I have a gig in two days, first time with Ableton and you´ve made me alot less nervous
Glad to hear that! Have a great show 🤘
thanks for your video it's really amazing. for your question about starting the next scene there is an option called ( Follow Action ) and from it you can tell Ableton what to do after finished the clip , it can go to the next or the previous or shuffle.
I don't know if it's not on 10, but in Ableton 11 on the Master track in that session view you can double click a scene and enable "Follow Action" and set the action to be either Stop, Play, Previous, Next, and more. So let's say to make it play through 2 songs on it's own and stop before the 3rd you'd set the Follow Action to be "Next" on the first 2 songs and stop on the 3rd.
Yup! It’s now available in 11 and 12!
Been trying to figure out the tracks thing for my band and this video was a huge help. Thank you for the knowledge king
Glad to help! 🤘🤘
Good tutorial! I don't know of an easy way to auto start the next clip in Session view. However, a lot of people use arrangement view instead and just add all the songs into it one after another. This isn't very good if you have a random order to your songs but it's great for repeating sections of the songs because you can set up a midi automation track that repeats to the previous locator and you can use a midi controller to turn that repeat track on and off as you want to. It's a great setup for things like worship bands that have a small but specific set each week. I wouldn't want to try it with a gigging band that performs like 40 songs a night.
Very helpful video! Currently working on getting setup to use Ableton Live for backing tracks, and click, and to also send sync'd MIDI commands to change processor presets .. Thanks again!
Hi Scott, great video. Over the last few years I built something similar in Session view which has a scene for each song and 2 tracks of audio (one mono track with click/cues and one stereo with music parts) plus 5 tracks of MIDI lighting cues that go over IAC to a DMX app. However the MIDI messages for Ableton's scene launch come from a custom webserver running on the same laptop as Ableton and the triggering device is an iPad that runs a custom web app off the webserver. The icing on the cake is that every scene is running at 120BPM but some clip content by necessity features sudden or gradual tempo variations throughout some songs and the lighting cues have to follow the audio. I've been meaning to make a video about it for... years.
Any video on how to set up backing tracks with different video for each song?
@@DivinityRoxx I don’t have a video on it, but I use the 3rd party plugin EboSuite for it in ableton, but I know there are many other ways to do it
Kinda late to the party (at Live 11, go figure), I like producing in Logic and was about to set a huge Logic session to trigger BTs live, but this is the video I needed. Following and thankful, brother.
Glad it was helpful!
Im still using Live 9. but it might be named something different on 10 and 11. You can use "follow action" since you're using session view.
You can use that command to auto start the next scene.
Yeah that works for clips, but not for the entire session
If you’re using Ableton 11, Scene Follow Actions are now a thing - just double click on the name of the scene and it’ll come up on your bottom bar :)
I've been WAITING for this video!!! Thanks for the video Scott!
Would you be able to touch on how to adjust tracks when downloading them from Karaoke Version when it has a variable tempo?
Thanks! Glad to help! And I do need to look into that. That’s the most common question I get asked
@@ScottUhlMusic You’re AWESOME! I’ve been loving your videos and you seem to post at the perfect time!
should update and use follow action to get the clips to play after the other clips. You can play all the clips or just the ones you want to follow. I love using follow action
Yeah ableton 11 allows that. I just upgraded to prepare for 12 💪
You can definitely auto start tracks you just needed live 11 or newer. Great vid
Yup! Glad they updated it
Thank you Scott…Great Video it helps me so much
Glad to hear it!
wow this vid is saving my ass right now. Great explanation. Also a Logic guy but having to learn to run tracks in Ableton for the biggest gig of my life ughh
Great video. Clear and to the point. No messing around. Thanks!
Thanks!
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Thanks!
Thanks! Always very usefull information
Great video bro. Thanks for breaking this down.
Glad you found it helpful 🤘
Your videos are extremely helpful. I was looking for this exact video. Thank you. Now on to the in ear videos.
Glad it was helpful!
You showed briefly what your ableton set looks like with video, multiple stems, in ear routing and lighting.
Would you do a video going into some of that? I’m running video for a live show in ableton now and looking to use lights in the future. Plus the idea of running my ears through ableton sounds intriguing. Would love to see what your set up looks like
Thanks man
Thanks! Definitely will consider it in the future. I have a lot of videos planned out right now, but always looking for new suggestions 🤘
The function you are looking for to automatically start the next clip or master clip is called follow. You can program it to strat the next clip with „next“ or any other clip with „jump2 and then add the corresponding number of the clip that you want to start. Hope that helps.
Thanks man! It seems like they added it in ableton 12 🤘
Thank you brother Scott! That was an amazing job explaining a complex subject!
i tuoi video sono sempre ben fatti e super ricchi di info....Grazie!!!!!
Thank you!
Really helpful videos! Regards from Brazil!
Great video, now I want to see all of your setup. Midi controlling the HX would be nice to look at, also video playback/sync.
Noted! Thanks for watching 😊
@@ScottUhlMusici would also like to see a follow up video where you control the HX stomp via midi whilst playing back tracks
thank youuuuu for this!! I would love a video (or maybe you have one) on how to sync video graphics with songs. Thank you again I had been sifting through the internet looking for just this info
I have an old video on how I do that in logic: th-cam.com/video/Wnwo3gjjbMs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MsfQQakZfSsQ3hyb
I’ve been using EboSuite with Ableton personally
Very useful stuff!
absolutely hepful video
This is exactly what I needed to know :-) One question: the Loop Community Track Rig looks really good. How do I go about having the tracks in my in-ear afterwards? I guess everything goes to the sound engineer's mixing desk and he is then giving us back the signals into our in-ears, is that right?
Yeah it’s just however you get the IEM feed. If you can build an IEM rack splitter, it’s definitely a better way to go: th-cam.com/video/XQjFhkQTVP8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lSwZL5Ful6YRzZa-
thank you
Super helpful. Thank you
You're welcome! 🤘🤘
ehhhmmm Scott: I really love this channel (great videos f.i.about Stagetraxx as well as M-Live B.Beat) but what I don't quite get: in your Stagetraxx video you mention you use it for your live shows but in this video you mention you use Ableton live. Do you use both?
Thanks! And yup for my original music I use ableton, and for my 90s band and my band with my wife (both covers) I use stage Traxx 3 👍
Thank you so much man
Happy to help 🤘
Good tutorial 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you 😊
Scene launch option in relation to your last question
Yup it’s available in ableton 11 now! Thank god
Hi Scott, thanks for all your very educational tutorial. could you please make a tutorial on how to use the Midi Commander with Ableton?
Thanks! And the midi captain? It should be very similar, ableton makes it very easy to midi map anything to it!
This is just great. Thank you so much.
Glad you enjoyed it! 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic off the top of my head when I've loaded songs in arrangement view I thought that they just played one after the other. Is that what you're speaking about in the video? That they don't automatically go to the next song?
Arrangement view makes sense for sure! But not in session view…. I wish I could do that in session view
Great video, I've used Pro Tools for years and have just been scared of Ableton. Question: should you be able to see the audio files in the Arrangement window after dragging them in? When I switch to that view I don't see any audio files even though I can hear them playing. It's really weird.
In all honest, I never really understood arrangement view very well. I’m much more a Logic guy, but ableton is just amazing for live stuff
Great guide, I am wondering if you can actually make like a midi mapping where you want to play the chorus two times if the gig requires it. Like you finish the chorus once and instead of finishing the track/song, you just press a button and you repeat the chorus
Yeah that would be with different tracks, and you set it to loop, but then send a midi message to disable the loop and go to the next track 👍
I noticed that you can set a tempo and time signature per clip in 11.
Do you use this too?
Love the video!
Even for an on-and-off user since 2007. Sometimes its good to go back to the basics and re-discover.
Thanks! And I usually set that as the master tempo and signature for the session
This make sense now!!! Do you have arrangement version?
Thanks! And no, I don’t use arrangement view personally
Great lesson, straight to what matters, thanks! Sorry if you already answered but where do you get your stems? Thanks Again!
Thanks! And from karaoke version usually: th-cam.com/video/nw8wZfFSQ2w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xS2WHJ_Oa48g2h2n
Hi Scott. Love your content. Hope you can tell me or make a video on how you made the click.. I couldn't figure out how to set a clip that runs for a couple of bars then starts the song
I make all my backing tracks in Logic, and then use ableton for live with my original stuff. Here’s my video guide on making backing tracks: th-cam.com/video/nw8wZfFSQ2w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gLPw1yI6KhCcPzDc
And an old video of mine about click track: th-cam.com/video/g1d56KLtmw0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TRFqATOH7yQj2pLr
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks!!! @Scott Uhl
Nice one
Thanks 🔥
When you talk about Ableton playing the next scene automatically, I assume this is to play the next song? I've always used arrangement view, which allows you to flow seamlessly between songs.
Yeah, you can do that in arrangement view, but not in session view. Session view is definitely the way to go so you can reorganize setlists and stuff like that for sure, which is why I wish we could do that in session view
Man I would love to see a review on a dn4816-o box. And a x18/x32 ultra net out to stereo, wireless in ear monitors
That video should be coming out next week 🤘
That’s amazing you’re timeing is perfect. Can’t wait.🤘🏻🤘🏻😝
Scott - love this video! Any recommendations for midi controllers for drummers who are at the kit and want to trigger both playing and advancing songs on a computer/in ear set up?
Thanks! Roland SPDSX is fantastic
Hello thank you. The stems imported should be mono and pan on the correct side? Thank you
If you do the single output / split of tracks to the left and click to the right, then yes you will want mono and panning
AMAZING VIDEO! so helpfull, could I use this with say a 2 channel output interface? CLICK & TRACK on output 1 (set as master output) for the bands IEM, then TRACK on output 2 for FOH? thanks x
Thanks! And yup you can do that 👍
Hi Scott, thanks for your video. I'm learning to use Ableton for backing track with Behringer XAir18. I did not understand why I need a channel out for each stem I want to use. You have 5 stems and you use five out. But why don't you route all the stems to, example, channel 17/18?
You can also do it that was as well if you want to combine stems into the mixer 👍
Hi Scott, I like your video but where I can find the "Edit Lauch Tempo" in windows? I couldn't see it. Please notice me
I don’t have a windows computer so I’m not sure. That’s strange that it’s not just a right click as it is in Mac
one question: how can I route the output of the click sound back to the drummers ears using the trackrig?
Yes you should be able to I believe 👍
Is there a possibility to trigger next song by a drum trigger for example roland kt-10, so i could connect it to audio interface’s input, ant when it gets hit, it starts next song? Thank you for your help :)
Not that I know of, but midi is definitely possible 👍
So are you no longer just using 2 channels out?
Will Ableton allow mono panning tracks/click?
Band is a 4-piece with 4 vocals. We have an XR18, and we don't have enough inputs if we use individual channels per stem, especially if we mic the drums.
With ableton you can do more than 2 channels out for sure 🤘 it’s up to you on what works best. I personally use 4 channels for tracks
did you try Follow Action or Dummy clips?
That’s with a newer version of ableton, which I now have 👍
Hi Scott, great video, thank you!!
I've an issue, may I organize my backing tracks in arrangement view like you show us and at the same time record my guitar and voice during the all live show?
How can I do that?
Thanks
Thanks! And I haven’t done that so I don’t know. I honestly just use session view for ableton tbh
How can i make the music show on the arrangement view just incase I wanted to change things?
You can click and drag the audio and hit the shortcut (I can’t remember, I think it’s tab?) to switch between session and arrangement and you can drop any audio/midi between the two views
Hi Scott, I have another question for you. I used to work with Arrangement View as I need to send midi commands to let Helix changes my guitar preset. How it is possible to do the same in session view? Thank you
Yup! You definitely can. You can copy the data into its own column in session view over from arrangement view 👍
Do you know how to get the behringer fcb1010 to work in Ableton live 12 ? It shows up on midi devices but when in midi mapping it wont assign nothing 🤔 thanks 😁
Make sure it’s configured properly in settings in ableton. I haven’t used the FCB is so long, I can’t remember how to set it up
What version of Ableton are you using? I think they added scene follow actions to Ableton 11, if you have an earlier version I think the way you do it with a midi loopback is the only way to play next scene automatically.
I hope 11 has it! I’m on ableton 10
Was playing around some time with _live_ - lots of cool options. Maybe some songs should be good for arrangements on the fly with loops...
I don't like all songs to run through their fixed form... just a little jamming ...
At least I'm thinking of letting a song play to a certain part, where it enters a loop, like for soloing, and then by footswitch you just exit the loop and play the song to its end.. do you think its possible with Ableton live?
Yup, that will work with ableton!
Can you run your vocals and process them through that same project with the backing tracks? Or same with an instrument like bass or guitar?
Yeah you can, I use ableton live for my tracks, midi, click, lighting, video, and for controlling my in ear monitor mix. I try not to have many plugins on audio tracks in ableton while performing live, but you definitely can 👍
great as usually Scott, but how to set it up if in one song have a different tempos?
Thanks! And You’ll need to manually setup the click and not use the built in click for ableton. I know there’s a way to automate the click in ableton, but I don’t remember how.
@@ScottUhlMusic great thanks 👌🏻
Nice. But how would i add midi control and program changes into the session view? I'd love to use session view instead of arrangement view because of the ability to reorder the playlist and the ability to stop after each song. Or would i have to use the arrangement view then?
Like: Not only sending out 1 programchange, but multiple during one song
Yeah you have to download a max for live plugin in order to get it to work. It’s definitely annoying. Hopefully they fix that in ableton 12
So for this, is the other view (you press tab) empty? you're working solely off the place you were in the video?
Yup 👍
Ok please please please do a an advanced video showcasing your own bands Ableton file. Im super curious on Video integration! (I already do click, tracks, lights and pedalboard program changes). Also in Ableton 11 there is Follow actions which are an easy way of progressing songs without using the IAC driver. Im currently using the IAC system but I hate clouding up my system with extra midi data so Im probably going to switch to follow actions for tempo chances and eventually non-stop blocks of tunes.
Does that work for the master scene? I can do that for each individual track, but not just “change when all the stems are finished.” And for video I use EboSuite, but that’s DEFINITELY overkill for that program haha, it’s just what I got used to using. You need a max for live device for it to work
@@ScottUhlMusic Im happy to report that it works on the master scene! You have to double click on "Master" or the name of the scene to see the "master" follow action. Then you have to program the correct number of measures before it switches to the next one.
My eventual goal is to program every song with a follow action like this and then to add scenes that "stop" playback so I can talk a length about the merch booth. 🤣
Dude if this works! Thank you so much. That might be on ableton 11 only? But I’m going to try here when I get a chance to. Thanks a bunch!!
@@ColinDean1 I tried it, and double clicking the master scene does NOT bring up "master" follow action... is this something just in Ableton 11? Thanks for letting me know. I'm curious why it doesn't show up on my end.
@@ScottUhlMusic Hmmm. Ive definately found it "fiddly" to get to the feature. First I double click on the work "master" (in the top right corner), then I double click on the name of the scene and the "follow action" button should appear in the bottom left corner of Ableton. Hope this helps! Im also Ableton Live 11 Standard Build 11.3.4
Did I miss where you actually import the songs or stems?
You just drag them into ableton in the slot you want 👍
Hi Scott! Great video! I have a question, I’m totally new to ableton, in my band we do live looping with a simple looper, example: I’m recording the guitar chords while we play the chorus and later I use those chords to solo over them. Is there a way to loop the whole backing track so I can extend a certain section to solo over it and then click something to continue the track?
Example: intro - verse - chorus - verse - chorus - looped chorus for a solo x2 or whatever is needed - chorus etc
Thanks so much
Thanks! I haven’t looped a section of a song in ableton with tracks, but I would imagine just setting each scene for each part of the song would work? Scene for the main part of the song, and then when it gets to the solo it just loops until you trigger the next scene (likely with midi) 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks a lot! I’ll give it a go
With Ableton Live in this method, could I just route all my stems to output 1and 2 in stereo so I keep control of my mix and send the cues and clics out 3 and 4? This way front of house wont remix my sends and I can keep control as if it would be a single file, but have the flexibility if the bass player doesn't show up to unmute the bass... Right?
Yup!
Hey Scott. Does Logic allow for MIDI commands to start the track?
I’m pretty sure, yes. I can’t remember though because I’ve switched to Ableton or Stage Traxx for live now
Is there a reason you dont use arrangement view?
What’s the value of Arrangement view over session view? Some people prefer it. I definitely prefer arranging songs per each scene in session view. Curious why others like arrangement view more?
Great breakdown and the controller samples look like the 2 ways I was considering triggering these as well: by myself (as guitarist), or by my drummers (pad surface). I don['t have either of those 2 control surfaces yet and am doing research which leads to a question I could use your POV on: Looking at the Akai MPK Mini MK2 for this use and as a controller for QLC+ for DMX lighting. it comes bundled with Ableton Live Light 2 which looked like it supports 8 audio tracks and a bunch of MIDI. Do you feel this might be enough to get me off the ground without having to spend extra for higher cost separate purchase?
Yeah that definitely can get you started for sure! 8 tracks is limited if you do longer than 30min sets, but that definitely will get you started 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic My sets tend to be 45-60 min so you've raised an important question. I've just dug around a bit and don't seem to have found a reference to anything 30-minute related. Can you elaborate a little on where it applies so I can better locate it to read up and see if it's something I will want to workaround? Many thanks!
how do I hook up the midi control to my Mac
With an audio interface with midi or with a cable like this: th-cam.com/video/_QpyLx_waZE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XmBwH-zNkQjMaQBE
Hi Scott, are you using the free version of Ableton? I understand that it is limited to 8 tracks so would it work in your demo?
I have the full Suite version of ableton, but you are correct that the lite version is limited to 8 tracks 👍
But this also means that you can not decide to loop an 8 bar inside a song ? ... you have to play as is ... if someone misses the intro to a verse ,.. you cant bring the verse back in the next 4 bars for exemple ?
That’s true with a lot of backing tracks, however, you definitely can get creative and loop parts of songs using ableton. This is just a beginners guide, as that is more advanced. I plan to eventually do a video on the topic at some point
Why are some of my tracks out of sync? When I upload them into logic, they are all lined up, but some of them go out of sync when I upload and play on abelton. I've made sure warp is off as well. Any pointers in what is going on?
Likely the audio is being warped
Do you teach ableton online sessions?
I can do consulting which can be booked on my website. It depends what you need to know about ableton. I know some stuff but not as much as I know about Logic Pro
Is the Standard version (USD 99) able to do all these things?
I believe so, but I can’t confirm
Hey Scott! Thanks for another amazing video. How would Ableton be more beneficial than for example Logic's live loops page? I'm just curious because it seems to me that everything that you showed should be replicable in Logic and I don't wanna pay for the Ableton licence if not necessary 😅
Also are there any benefits from using Ableton instead of Stage Traxx 3? I'm little bit worried of Stage Traxx crashing in the middle of the song on iPad so would rather prefer the Logic/Ableton on laptop but the benefits of syncing with the lyrics and broadcasting it to other members are huge! Also no need to take the laptop with me since I'll have the iPad anyway 😂 I'm just scared the iPad (9th gen) won't handle the tracks reliably. Any feedback would be much appreciated!
I honestly haven’t used the Live Loops in logic, so I’m not sure. And stage Traxx 3 is still what I use when I do covers! It’s an incredible app. I use ST3 for covers and ableton for my ridiculously complicated original music live show 😅
Thanks a lot for the honest reply! Did you ever had Stage Traxx crashing on you live with the broadcasting feature turned on?
@@honzakalnik Stage Traxx has never crashed on me, and I've used it live probably over 100 times now. I love it!
What do you display your video on?
Like live video display stuff? On a projector out HDMI from my computer
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Its not showing luach tempo in my ableton 12, I tried command R and its playing everything fast its so confusing in my ableton
Oh weird… maybe something changed with the firmware update
@@ScottUhlMusic i just managed somehow. I went to View>Scene Tempo and Time Signature. I just checked that option and it showed the tempo and time signature at the right and i changed it. It worked
Thank you
is it really necessary click, cues, and separate tracks to trigger a simple playback? I can't understand what you can do or why you need those separations, if it's just karaoke. What is the risk of using a simple stereo playback, the song itself already has the "click" implicit, do you really have to record the name of the song on the tracks to "remember" it? I said this cause it could be achive with less and cheaper hardware.
You don’t need to if you don’t want it, no. But my drummer prefers to have click much louder than the cues. When we sent them both out together, he didn’t want the cues as loud as they would be when he turned up the click. So the separation of that is nice. A singer wants more cues than click.
It’s not “karaoke”, it’s for live band performances. So there isn’t always a beat going for them. And I’ve seen WAYYYY too many bands try to play to backing tracks without a click, and the wedge isn’t loud enough or something and they lose it.
Can you actually load 100+ songs without Ableton choking your computer by filling up the memory with that many songs?
Depends on the computer of course, but yes. Use high end MP3 instead of WAV. That will be a massive help
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks! You probably just saved me from total disaster. Didn’t know that it supports mp3. Huge benefit!
Quick tip to make the BPM setting easier:
Don't right click > edit launch tempo, instead just drag the edge of that master column to the left a little and a separate box to type in the BPM for each scene appears. Saves a little bit of time and look less cluttered.
Oh sweet! I didn’t know that. Thanks for the tip 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic To be fair, Ive used Ableton for over a decade now and I only learnt about this a few months ago when I accidentally did it.
how the f you import a lot of stems at once, i have backing tracks with 60 stems i cant be importing one by one there must be a way
That I don’t know. 60 stems… I hope that’s over multiple songs lol
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I’ve been using session view with in depth editing like a dummy. This is so much easier 😂😂
Thank you! Great and useful video !