The whole "Dying in a cutscene" theory, in BL3 I had died and gotten revived and the New U machine said "Death isn't permanent unless you die in a cut-scene"
"hey, everybody knows this, im not gonna explain it" "yeah, this is known to fans, im moving on" "oh yeah, this glitch, its mainstream, everybody knows it" uuh, thanks a bunch for this well explained iceberg vid, you didnt miss its point
Two months late and this video still pisses me off bro then goes on to explain shit that literally happened in the story and is a major plot point as if anyone who played the game would wonder
Dying isn't canon unless it is in a Cutscene: " Yesterday I played Borderlands 2 and died and a New U Station said: " We will bring you all the time back, except it is in a Cutscene" I think it is a joke but idk.
Yeah that's because the New U stations aren't canon. So you are right. When you die while playing it isn't canon but when someone dies in a cutscene it is canon.
@@joeshmoe3329 ya he only got zeros suit design, zero said something like how did he get my suit design, did she tell him? I don't remember everything just look up the video the history of zero here is a link th-cam.com/video/asbiO1-T9hc/w-d-xo.html
27:13 This isn't a "theory", it's part of the lore. Roland practicaly adopted Tina and took care of her. This is why there is so many pictures of them together, Tina's writing on his memorial, and why she is so heartbroken by his death.
Back when Borderlands 1 was first teased and we got the early early concept arts, where Lilith was Steele and Roland was some white fella, that fella got reused for another character in the game. Prototype Roland is none other than our fan favourite Dr. Zed. Except he wears a mask 24/7.
Good bit late on this, but I would like to add that the original model for Mordecai was also different and got turned into the enemy called Reaver. As far as I understand, the only one who never changed was Brick, the prettiest siren.
White death was the nickname of a famous finish sniper who killed hundreds of Soviets in WW2 while Lyuda represents a Soviet sniper named lyudmila who killed hundreds in WW2. Sniper of the west for Xbox, sniper of the east for PlayStation.
tiny tina's dragon keep 2 is literally just wonderlands - look at the areas described, bottom of the sea, desert.. very interesting to see them bring it into a full game
When Maya asks Lilith what happened to her powers Lilith does not explain to her what the Calypsos can do. So I would say Lilith got Maya killed as well as Roland...
Guys. Everyone was at fault in that situation. Lilith: for not telling maya about what happened. Maya: for not trying to know more about what happened. Ava: for not listening to maya. Moze/Amara /Zane/Fl4k : for not telling maya more, despite witnessing the effects of tyreen's powers first hand. Krieg: for not being there. There was nobody innocent at that point in time. But i'm pretty sure Ava not being there would have been a game changer because maya would've been in the vault with you and have exited the same time as you to witness the vault monster absorption. Just saying.
Jack definitely wasn't a "good guy" at the beginning of pre sequel. He was just not nearly as maniacal. He was still a power hungry narcissist at the beginning of the game. What kind of hero has a big alien eye that shoots death star lasers?
@@RemingtonSteel eh, is she? i mean, she's got ice speciality which is cool and all but athena's got elemental boosting, several different elemental based skils, can absorb elemental damage from enemies and reflect it back, she's essentially got two really good build concepts, being cryo + melee or her shock elemental spam stuff, etc. aurelia's probably got the best elemental skill tree in the series, admittedly, but athena feels far more like a siren.
@@PianoEmu1120 Yeah, Maelstrom Athena is a ton of fun. Stormweaving giving you infinite ammo is just icing on the cake. Throw a Storm Front grenade and enjoy those 500 instant stacks.
I feel like the New-U was canon in the early stages of making Borderlands, as it was a fun, in-universe way to explain why everyone was crazy with little fear of death, and why the psychos and bosses respawned. An interesting way to bridge game design with story. But they probably would have abandoned that quickly as it meant the most simple stake for story writing; death, no longer applied.
I know i am late but to add to this is that a canon new u respawn system would kimda dumb from jack to not shut down. He tried to kill us but if the new u where canom this would mean he'd kill us but we woiöd just respawn until we kill him. So alone from that logic standpoint i'd say it should be only a gameplay mechanic but no canon
@@andreauster1997I'm also replying late, but I always saw it as him not really bothering to take you off the respawn list because of his arrogance and greed. If you die, he makes money. If you don't die, he's convinced you won't win anyway, so you're more of an annoyance than a threat, so whatever. Plus, he did hire you even if it was just to trick and kill you, maybe you got put on a list of Hyperion contractors that had respawning as a perk of working for the company. These are all just theories though. I'd personally assume everyone else in the Crimson Raiders was taken off the respawn list before he actually started his full takeover of Pandora just to make it easy to reduce resistance from the "evil bandits" that he saw as not even being human.
The pre sequel was the 1st borderlands I played. Which after playing it I knew I had to check out the rest of the borderlands. Now I love all the borderlands.
the whole Rhys being CEO of Atlas was explained in Tales from the borderlands, Handsome Jack had the deed to Atlas in his office, Rhys grabbed it before shit went down.
The new u stations are literally stated to be non-canon BY THEMSELVES! It's one of the respawn lines in Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep. Very common line. Anyone can go play it for themselves and hear it.
that should be obvious, new u's would make everything and every action worth nothing, roland can return, pierce can return, the entire military structure of atlas, handsome jack, all of those bandits, etc
The Lyuda/White Death thing is actually a galaxy brain Easter egg. The names are references to famous snipers Lyudmila Pavlichenko and Simo Hayha who were on opposing sides during WWII. The 2 snipers being on separate consoles is a reference both to WWII, but also the ongoing console war between Xbox and PlayStation
@@steamtasticvagabond474 from what I understand, on Xbox 360 it was the White Death, on the PS3 it was the Lyuda, and in the Handsome Collection on both Xbox One and PS4 it’s the Lyudmila.
There’s something that’s always bugged me about the ending of BL3. Ava asks if Tyreen is dead for real, and Lilith “gives it a hard maybe”. I’m sure this was just a joke, but I don’t like even the slightest hint of ambiguity in a character’s death. It plants the smallest seed of doubt, y’know?
I've always been worried they'll bring jack back and completely ruin his legacy, especially considering people's response to tiny Tina's wonderlands, it seems more likely they might do it to try and gather hype from players
"it was confirmed Maya would have died with or without Ava's inclusion" this doesn't really prove anything other than they intended for Maya to die in the plot, though. Ava, in the story as we received it, did influence the scenario and was a likely reason for escalating the encounter that got Maya killed. now, i'm sure there's some nuance you could argue about the story, but my comment here is about how the comment Epic made is kind of irrelevant, seeing as the point of contention is about how things happen within the story we got and not the writer's intent of killing off Maya regardless.
I don't think its a big deal that Ava got Maya killed or not. It bothers me that Ava comes out of nowhere in that mission. Am I supposed to believe that the girl somehow snuck by that many enemies without being seen fast enough to keep up with the Vault Hunter and Maya AND be in the room with the Rampager during the fight to watch the whole thing in person without getting hurt. That part is what is BS. It would have been better for her to be in the car (regardless of it getting blown up and respawning) and pop out right before the fight that to have her just appear and spout out her stupidity in that moment.
It felt like the writers knew they wrote mighty characters in all the games that lead up to 3, and felt overwhelmed maybe or something like that, a mix of can’t continue on doing justice for the characters and a dislike for the fan base. Not that the fan base matters too too much with games, but when you kill off the characters, change the art style, and provide a lack of depth for the new villains and (likely) new characters who will or won’t be sticking around. I wouldn’t be surprised if they involve the timekeeper eridian later on. I will be surprised if they don’t retcon the latest bits of plot, or at least time warp patch things up.
It didn't even register until this video, and to just further I thought he was still saying Pain and Terror until he literally said something about Pen Jillette
I feel like the massive wait and buildup of borderlands 3 hurt it when it finally came out. Kinda like the “Astroworld effect” where the buildup completely outshines the product
I completely agree dude. I was so excited for borderlands three initially, and the wait was honestly fun. Two days into the game I finished it and didn't really want to go back.
Pre-Sequel is just basically a HUGE Borderlands 2 DLC, it plays exactly the same but adds those jetpack thingies, and the Claptrap DLC for it was so good it's a bit gutting that they cancelled the rest of them.
People complain about how hard Voracidous is, while I think only true challenging raid boss is Grandma Flexington... Even Salvador can’t money shot his way outta this one...
To the ClapTrap bullet hole: I believe that the bullet hole is a reference to when Jack shot Claptrap in the Claptrap DLC in Bl:tps. The bullet hole is in the exact same place as in the DLC. The reason why the bullet hole isn't in-game is probably just because Gearbox forgot about it
41:37 I just got a voice line literally yesterday while farming the handsome sorcerer from the new u station. “Handsome hack wants to let you know, the New-U stations are not canon”
funny enough, if your paid attention to grandma torgue she clearly states she saw captain scarlet at one point, and it really wouldn't make sense to mention a character by name that we didn't know yet(also wattle gobbler dlc came out after scarlet). therefore she is definitely still alive.
Not only that, but she also says that captain scarlet fought you and said something along the lines of "it was the greatest fight she's ever had" - So it seems to practically guarantee she is alive after your meeting her yes. ---- I double checked and yes, if you go to the "Borderlands 2 Wattle Gobbler DLC Raid Boss Grandma Torgue?" video by 'MorninAfterKill' at 8:48 then you see the exact statment. It says she agreed she fought the vault hunter after grandma asked and she said the vault hunter was really good at fighting and won fair and square.
@@zanakanishi i thourougly hope to see her as new dlc some day, maybe appearing with rose. A notorious pirate captain and a cowboy samurai gangleader vs the vaulthunters would be legendary.
There are voice lines in the game talking about how Wilhelm was poisoned. When you are fighting him you can hear him say how something is wrong and someone made a mistake. It is very easy to hear if you just listen during the fight. He does say out loud something is wrong with him and someone made a mistake when getting him ready. I believe Jack also says in game he affected Wilhelm why else do you think you vaulthunters could have killed him if not even the last vault hunters could hurt him
@@jiubus No what I am referring to is something you can do right now and hear. If you fight Wilhelm and actually listen to what he says you can hear him saying he can feel something is wrong and that someone made a mistake. It isnt cut content you literally just have to go and test it. Dont gun him down in 5 seconds just lower his health by about half and he will talk about it
@@BlackAxon it could have been cut but I thought there was a scene after he barrages sanctuary that he says something along the lines of “did you really think you losers could kill wiheilm when the last four vault hunters had to run away like cowards”
I dont remember hearing the dialouge for this but jack planned for wilhelm to die so that the power core reactor that you steal from wilhelm and bring to sanctuary will bring down sanctuary's sheild
The funny thing about the bee conference call is that is shows that the developers of the game at one point,particularly early on, actually intended to have a balanced game in BL2. But eventually the scope of how broken the game just never set in for them at this point. Weapon merging was discovered as a bug, and then people realized you can perform the bug by just using Salvador's gunzerking, combining rocket launchers with other weapons to apply their huge damage to a higher firerate gun was found, which eventually evolved to its peak of the pimperhab(Later when those weapons were released with dlcs). B0re was discovered to be completely broken and bugged letting Zer0(And later Gaige with a similar skill) one shot bosses like bnk3r and even raid bosses. Gaige can give herself permenant super powerful shield regen. Eventually it become obvious that the game was too broken to fix, and they didn't bother. You can tell they gave up because at one point, nerfing Shield Amp damage(Usually the bee due to no shield charge cost on the amp damage) and multi pellet weapons was patched in the case of the Conference Call, for being too powerful. But you can still combine the bee with other multi-pellet weapons to regain the effect. Like a ricochet fibber. That you use on gaige. With 400 anarchy stacks, and infinite shield regen with the buck up glitch and the Bee shield. The sad part of this is that in giving up in making a balanced game, they decided OP levels are fine. When really the only viable way to play in OP10 is to abuse the fuck out of bugs. I mean gaige can't even max anarchy stacks hive bomb raid bosses with a bee shield anymore on op10 the resistances are so ridiculous. Good thing she can make herself immune with the buck up glitch i guess.
main issue with bl2 is uvhm is an absolute disaster. forcing people to slag everything is incredibly unfun and repetitive. it's one of the reasons why i think the pre sequel is a more fun game to max out on: it feels way more balanced and doesn't overstay its welcome
This thread is why I think BL2 is a tad overrated when compared to TPS and BL3. I think 3 is the best as far as gameplay, followed by TPS and then BL2.
I see your pimperhab combo and raise it with the pimp-cream. Moxxxi launcher that does about half the damage of the ahab but also heals you. Never have to switch out after finding that glitch. And if you run out of rockets then every pimpernel pellet gets money shot. Combine with a slag pimp and poof you're broken. First shot slags and the rest does triple damage and heals you.
about the vault hunters being evil, I figure that's kind of a shallow take on it i think one of the cool things about borderlands is how it subverts classic hero morality. the vault hunters are clearly not supposed to be good people, they are greedy and violent and many side quests have you do pretty shitty stuff to people. zane is literally an assassin and professional thief, for example. borderlands is more about letting you be amoral and not judging the player for doing video gamey stuff, like killing lots of people for money and loot
For the past borderlands I'd agree but damn in borderlands 3 it clearly feels like you play as the hero even though Zane and flak are literally a ex assassin and a murderous robot, and I hate it
@@solidsnakeshugecake i mean Flak is literally a homicidal maniac, and they try to make them a hero by having this whole "save the universe" generic doomsday plot, not to mention how they steamrolled the siren lore into oblivion, it's such a goddamn mess
@@solidsnakeshugecake I noticed this as early as Borderlands 2, in the first game Vault Hunters are just seen as fools hunting a myth, Pierce considers us a bit of a nuisance. Cut to the start of Borderlands 2 when we first get to Sanctuary and meet Reese, suddenly Vault Hunters are treated like Spartans are in the Halo games.
There are quite a few 'alternate' ways of Maya to die stories out there that coudld fit perfectly in the story. The unlock of the vault monster could initialy be prevented by Maya who sacrifice herself to hold back the planet, then Lillith does her thing. Another is she overdone her body using her powers, she slowely dying, bring Krieg back, give them their moment, she passes as she tells Ava she will be next. The whole problem (just like Roland or Birdie) is not the fact she would die, is the fact HOW she died. Ava first couldve grown into a likeable character (nobody likes her now), before Maya had to pass on. Sure some are mad about Maya dying, but majority is mad about how she had to die.
The Pre-Sequel had the most fun vault hunters to play with. If it got the same detailed skill trees as BL3, it would make it even better. Just the skill possibilities for claptrap alone.
Pretty cool to look back on these videos and see things like the "Assault on dragon keep 2" DLC getting scrapped early on, just to realize it's because it got a green light to be turned into its own entire game... They had no idea back then lmao.
I loved the presequel story, watching Jack descend into madness was great. Pickles annoyed the shit out of me though Also lasers, buttslamming, and cryo was great. The presequel had some good stuff.
His sister's mission " the other pickle"(something like it) where you save pickle's sister from being just like her brother - you get a fairly good shotgun, the boganella. Heads up, it talks smack to everyone. Censored like torgue.
Only thing I didn't like was EVERY DAMN MISSION had the same layout, go to your objective...oh wait it's actually broken/blocked by a shield, well now you gotta go 3 other places to fix it, at first it's hardly noticeable, but they do it in damn near every mission, towards the end it was just unbearable
No one talks about him because he is a moron and got what he deserved. Most of what he talked about was incorrect and speculation, and he profited off it, Robbing people blind. That in itself is shady as fuck and illegal.
I think I remember hearing Axton or Salvador mention new U stations in arms race and the other host quickly hushed them up about it, gave me a laugh when I heard it
Lyuda and white death are a reference to opposing snipers in WW2. Lyuda being Russian and white death being Finnish in the Finnish soviet war. That reference with white death exclusive to Xbox 360 and lyuda exclusive to PS4 was a reference to the console wars at the time.
I feel like iceberg videos are supposed to… explain the iceberg? I thought the idea was to explain it to people who didn’t already know, but the entire first ten minutes is just “you guys already know” and just acknowledging it’s existence. So far it feels like a series of inside jokes we aren’t being let in on. But the gameplay looks dope
Idk why he was so salty about it, these games r way less serious than a lot of shooters. Thats what makes the games so fun to me. They r full of cameos and references and jokes and they r all the better for it :)
Ava 100% got Maya killed, just because she would have died regardless in a different timeline or whatever, in our timeline Ava got maya killed. And then she proceeded to encourage tannis to go in front of a vault almost immediately after. Ava’s a villain
In a game a long long ago called "Blood" which Pitchford was involved in the main protagonist killed a train. The boss in The FlusterCluck is likely a nod to that .
I am surprised you didn’t bring up how Zer0 is likely a robot. Fl4k says that Zer0 is familiar when they meet. They both have numbers in their name. They both have the two fang skill. They also have the same hands with four fingers.
I don't think that makes him likely a robot. FL4K is likely familiar because they are both hunters, and if there's a hunter anyone in the Borderlands would know, it'd be Zer0. Besides, Zane also knows Zer0. Two fang is just like any other skill. Zane also has a two fang like ability to fire multiple shots. And numbers of fingers doesn't indicate if someone is a robot. The eridians have 4 fingers.
Correction: shams lowest absorb chance is 77%, not 1% 1% can only be acquired from a white rarity absorb shields with triple bandit parts Also, the sham on its own, isnt really rare, due to how easy the bunker farm is, and how it's a dedicated drop Now, for the dragons keep dlc, yea for now, new game coming out 2022, not a dlc, an entire new game
New-U isnt canon since every time someone talks with us after we beat a important boss, even if we die numerous times, they act like we killed it at first time. Besides that, all characters once playable and now dead dont return. Even in BL3 New-U jokes that they can bring us back at any time considering that we dont die in a custscene. About Rose being a Siren, the theory revolves around the fact that she has Core running through her veins and it kinda gives her the ability to strenghten her shots when flowing it into her gun. Her tattos are also marks of Core, as was said in the DLC that the more tattos you have inside the Devil Riders, higher your rank, and those tattos were made of Core. Besides that, she had control over the Ruiner (which, by the way, anyone would have if learned the song that her grandma teached to her mom, that teached to her), but everyone seems to forgive that both Rose and Ruiner were experiments of Jakobs with Core to (apparently) create a Siren and a Vault monster that would work under its control. Clearly she isnt a Siren And about no Invicibles for "over a year", thats not true. Borderlands 3 launched in september, Maliwan Takedown was launched on november, 2 months later. Of course it would be better to launch the game with a Invincible to fight, but telling that take over a year till we have one is a overstatement
I honestly love when youtubers talk about community moments as much as you did, it reminds us that we're all humans who share a passion and some real drama, sometimes hilariously dumb drama happened, and its not ALL about the games but the greater community.
I will never understand why you got that upset over a cameo in borderlands 3. It was entertaining and it fit well with the tone of the game if you ask me
I love the game but I don't like randy pitchford I feel like eventually he's just gonna turn the game into Fortnite and pay to win you can see the evolution of marketing throughout the games
Wasn't claptrap shot at the end of the claptastic voyage DLC? Would that explain the bullet hole? Because we know that frag-tp is the claptrap in bl2 from the scene after that DLC.
Frag-trap IS our claptrap. After the events of the claptastic adventure, he had the frag-trap programming removed as it was part of the h-source. Jack shot him, dumped him in frostbite glacier, and then bl2 starts some time later
I started playing borderlands when I was 8. I'm 17 and I still love playing both borderlands 1 and 2. Not once did I think bosses could be farmed until I bought the legendary edition. Good times
I've been playing since around that age as well, I feel like a chunk of my brain is dedicated to borderlands by this point lmao. I alternate playing bl1 and bl2 every few months.
im in the same boat but i just decimated borderlands 2 and picked 3 up when in launched never farmed bosses until i went to run back through the map and bewm boom were waiting for me
Some minor additional factoids that are more in regards to Randy Pitchford himself, as he is no stranger to controversy: - It is alleged that in 2014 Randy accidently left a USB drive at a Texas restaurant the Borderlands dev team was eating at and the drive contained both sensitive personal documents related to Gearbox and very graphic pornography featuring an underage actress. Randy himself has stated the girl present in the video was of legal age and he had kept the video because it had a "magic trick" and Randy wanted to contact the actress to have her premiere on the cover of a magic magazine. - Randy Pitchford is singlehandedly responsible for modern video game commercials specifying if game footage is authentic or not, as he made several false claims during the development of Aliens: Colonel Marines that the prototype visuals and proposed game mechanics were in-game assets despite the game being in development hell. - Claptrap's original voice actor David Eddings was physically assaulted by Randy Pitchford at the 2017 GDC due to Eddings mentioning both the alleged Gearbox buyout as well as the lawsuit that publicized the controversial USB drive, which was submitted by ex-Gearbox lawyer Wade Callender. Upon hearing these claims Randy had violently shoved Eddings and was subsequently fired after the GDC conference, explaining why Claptrap's voice is altered in Borderlands 3. - In 2019 Randy was accused of monetary theft in as much as $12M as an advance upon royalties. He essentially pocketed money intended for Gearbox.
The USB of the 'barely legal' cam girl 'squirting' that was left at a Medieval Times restaurant was admitted to by Randy himself as a guest on a magic show podcast. Someone needs to tell Randy, "It's not a magic trick, it's just pee." Speaking about Aliens: Colonial Marines, the funniest factoid is that the AI for the Aliens was broken for years until someone discovered it was due to a missing letter 'a' in a single line of code.
In the arms race DLC, one of the lines that can play from Axton has something to do with new you stations, and then Salvador says that he wasn't supposed to mention that.
There's a side mission in BL2 called "[unalive] Yourself" that Jack gives you, knowing full well the New-U (that he owns and controls) will revive you. Might not be canon, but fucking hilarious.
One of the revival lines also references the plot of SOMA, "Hyperion suggests that you do not think about the fact that this is only a digital reconstruction of your original body, which died the first time you respawned. Do NOT think about this!"
Dude, thank you for this video. It's fantastic. This brought back so many good and pain inducing memories. I miss the hype around the discovery and leaks of the Commander Lilith DLC, and then the rumors about BL3 releasing. You made me relive the pain of wanting Luxy's Space Adventure so badly... I also wanted to comment that Gearbox had copyrighted the name "Borderworlds" at some point before BL3's release. That's why the community thought that BL3 would be called Borderworlds.
Noooo I'm so late but seeing as TPS is hands down my favorite borderlands game, Joltz' video about Luxys space adventure left me crushed because we weren't getting the dlc. RIP 2K Australia :/
@@KREAM-2003 Luxy's Space Adventure seemed to live on in memory! The premise of the DLC was reused a lot throughout other DLCs, it felt like. Most notably the Commander Lilith DLC.
@@5h4de4 that is fair, I haven't touched borderlands 2 since the fight for sanctuary came out so I had totally forgotten about the "spore zombie" enemies (sorry for lack of better term lmao). Even tho it still lived on through the fight for sanctuary my heart continues to ache for TPS :(:
Aurelia denies being a Siren outright in an Echo Log in the mission where you fight her. She says it's skill and nanobots. The Seventh Siren (Phase Leech) was a power locked in the vault where Typhon DeLeon and his wife conceived their twins. It definitely exists, and is now out in the world.
Well, we got our Dragons Keep 2. Wonderlands is exactly what you described. So, it's great to know that wonderlands only came to be because of the unused assets from dragons keep.
Captain Scarlett is alive, if you listen to Grandma Flexingtons story, at one point she mentions how she ran into Scarlett after her fight with the Vault Hunter
I agree on the lack of conventional raid bosses. I think that no modern Looter Shooter should launch without at least 1 superboss/raid type enemy. And in the case of BL3 they could just have made us play through all the trials once to unlock a new map that holds a royal rumble style raid boss fight against much stronger and tankier versions of the trial bosses with us fighting multiple of them at once. Easy enough to make, good enough to enjoy.
Clap trap was shot at the end of Claptastic voyage by jack because he wanted to kill all claptraps .hahaha. Not sure how you know all this stuff but not that because it was a cut scene at the end of the dlc in the presequel XD
I love the borderlands series, and its hilarious because i got bl2 for christmas, my dad thought i asked for it despite never knowing it existed, worked out lol
I lucked out with the vip service by buying the cult of the vault shirt from Spencer's, the lady at the desk didn't understand how the points cards worked and it was the last day for the event so she gave me 10 cards. I bought like 3 or 4 heads.
Claptrap is shot by Jack in the end of presequel when he destroys all the cl4pt units and Hyperion dumps claptrap and all the other units into a snowy plain where as a lone survivor he meets sir hammerlock and that's where he meets the vault hunters at the start of bl2
Earl ate eridium and now eats everything….the destroyer eats stars……”strange” BL3 extra elements that would have been a good unique or legendary Vampirism Core Ghost Terror Idea: Head Grenade, a grenade that does headshots and crits
In the happy together trailer for bl3, mount jackmore was in the background. Also, there is dialogue for a cut mission that had mount jackmore as a map. Also you should have brought up the SupMatto saga, as well as scooper ( the cut son of scooter)
A thing I accidentally found: On Xbox360 and PS3, if you start split-screen and disable it, it turns VSync off and the game plays with an uncapped framerate. It doesn't play 60fps (unless you look at the sky), but you'll definitely notice a difference.
Githion's heart was constantly mentioned in the DLC..... never anything about Githion, only his/her/it's heart, so I honestly wasnt expecting a giant monster w/ a hole in it's chest, honestly expected a repeat of Hammerlock's BL2 DLC.... where the final boss falls over and kills himself
@@Loderyod true, could have been a case of "we invade it's head and shoot at it's brain while it summons minions to defend it" but hey... that would have been the lazy path lol
I would like to disagree with your opinion on the Heart. While I will agree that as the Heart, as a Vault Monster, is a dissappointment, I feel that it fits from a STORYLINE point of view. Remember that the BL3 Hammerlock DLC is very Lovecraftian, and the Big Monster in a Lovecraft story is never really seen directly.
1:09:37 this is a reference to when Claptrap got shot during the end cutscene of the Claptrap DLC in the Pre Sequel. If you go back and watch it, the bullet holes are in the same place.
1:09:00 - Claptrap was shot in Presequel, however Borderlands 2 claptrap had no bullet wound; so for Borderlands 3, Gearbox updated Claptrap with the bullet wound. So fan theory to justify voice actor switch, the bullet wound hit claptraps voice components.
From memory here: Flesh Stick is part of the Cordially Invited quest line from Tina's house. Relevant to the Iceberg video, Im pretty sure audio logs reveal (not going to spoil too hard,) flesh stick captured Tina's parents which led to their death.
the weird thing is, i don't recall farming 'him'. i'd purposely die to get dozens of waves of killing his allies for a little bit of a level boost, maybe, but not strictly 'him'.
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The whole "Dying in a cutscene" theory, in BL3 I had died and gotten revived and the New U machine said "Death isn't permanent unless you die in a cut-scene"
Replaying BL2 right now and I've heard this twice recently as well as another statement saying the new u station is not cannon
@@jaybad555 In Pre-Sequel, one of the New-U lines is "Seriously, these New-U stations aren't canon."
"hey, everybody knows this, im not gonna explain it"
"yeah, this is known to fans, im moving on"
"oh yeah, this glitch, its mainstream, everybody knows it"
uuh, thanks a bunch for this well explained iceberg vid, you didnt miss its point
Two months late and this video still pisses me off bro then goes on to explain shit that literally happened in the story and is a major plot point as if anyone who played the game would wonder
“If Kevin hart was playing Roland the bullet would’ve missed” BRO KNEW SOMETHING AND WAS HINTING AT IT THE WHOLE TIME
the casting list was announced a lonnggg time ago
@@SkiitersonWiitersonthat much long ? Realy ?
"It has an absorb chance from 1% to go up to 94%" lowest absorb chance on the sham is 77% and is as rare as a 94% sham
I had a 78 and an 89
Every maliwan part is 1/20
@@TreadingtheBorderlands69 is the best
Played for over a decade and only managed an 92%
@@sunsetsunrise207 I read this and went to call BS then I realized it HAS been out for a decade and now I feel old.
Dying isn't canon unless it is in a Cutscene: " Yesterday I played Borderlands 2 and died and a New U Station said: " We will bring you all the time back, except it is in a Cutscene" I think it is a joke but idk.
Yeah that's because the New U stations aren't canon. So you are right. When you die while playing it isn't canon but when someone dies in a cutscene it is canon.
@@joeshmoe3329 but katagawa jr uses the new u to get the body of zero
@@uncapo7838 doesn't he just get zero's costume? Because when you kill katagawa jr he doesnt have zero's face
@@joeshmoe3329 ya he only got zeros suit design, zero said something like how did he get my suit design, did she tell him? I don't remember everything just look up the video the history of zero here is a link th-cam.com/video/asbiO1-T9hc/w-d-xo.html
@Beckham no. would make an awesome theory, but, no.
27:13 This isn't a "theory", it's part of the lore. Roland practicaly adopted Tina and took care of her. This is why there is so many pictures of them together, Tina's writing on his memorial, and why she is so heartbroken by his death.
Roland is also the person who showed Tina bunkers and badasses and her original GM
@@andrewcraig443 Yeah i realized that after i completed wonderlands
In the game she's actually introduced and then he dies a few hours later.. js
@@MrMatt3046 Introduced to Roland? Because Roland took care of Tina for quite a while, a LOT longer than a few hours.
@@RomiiPringle did you play the game? They found her living in a cave during the game.then a few hours later Ro is killed.
Lilith in a bikini car skin still exists and is called True Turquoise. Just thought Id mention that. Idk
Only skin i use once I discovered it ages ago
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 you didn’t switch to technical spectacle?
@@nbabackcourtmedia for a bit when commander Lilith dropped, but that sparkle ain't got shit on those tatas
I love that skin
NO....
Back when Borderlands 1 was first teased and we got the early early concept arts, where Lilith was Steele and Roland was some white fella, that fella got reused for another character in the game. Prototype Roland is none other than our fan favourite Dr. Zed. Except he wears a mask 24/7.
"Dokter zeeed"
Good bit late on this, but I would like to add that the original model for Mordecai was also different and got turned into the enemy called Reaver. As far as I understand, the only one who never changed was Brick, the prettiest siren.
White death was the nickname of a famous finish sniper who killed hundreds of Soviets in WW2 while Lyuda represents a Soviet sniper named lyudmila who killed hundreds in WW2. Sniper of the west for Xbox, sniper of the east for PlayStation.
Lyudmila was often called "Lady Death", but most people just think of the marvel character when they hear lady death.
Lmao
This is facts right here. Should have added this to the video. Thanks!🤩
@@chastethompson1086 I instantly thought of the exotic smg from division 2
Idk how he didn't know this, this was such a cool feature to me when I first played bl2
tiny tina's dragon keep 2 is literally just wonderlands - look at the areas described, bottom of the sea, desert.. very interesting to see them bring it into a full game
Dude I was thinking the same thing and started looking for comments of it. Went from big DLC to medium sized game.
And torque finally got to blow up the ocean! I was so happy for him in that moment!
Same with the pirate ship from the "scarlet DLC" he mentioned
When Maya asks Lilith what happened to her powers Lilith does not explain to her what the Calypsos can do. So I would say Lilith got Maya killed as well as Roland...
That's a very good point
Well lilith is the apitamy of bad writing so yeah i agree
@@voidfields5065 lol so true
Guys. Everyone was at fault in that situation.
Lilith: for not telling maya about what happened.
Maya: for not trying to know more about what happened.
Ava: for not listening to maya.
Moze/Amara /Zane/Fl4k : for not telling maya more, despite witnessing the effects of tyreen's powers first hand.
Krieg: for not being there.
There was nobody innocent at that point in time.
But i'm pretty sure Ava not being there would have been a game changer because maya would've been in the vault with you and have exited the same time as you to witness the vault monster absorption.
Just saying.
@@nancyabsalon9436 True
Jack definitely wasn't a "good guy" at the beginning of pre sequel. He was just not nearly as maniacal. He was still a power hungry narcissist at the beginning of the game. What kind of hero has a big alien eye that shoots death star lasers?
The Justice League?
If jack infact had win, the twins were never gonna get power to be villains. also, he did tried to make safe place for people in oppertunity.
@@Bandit-23th tbf thats an extremely dumb part of the dcau
He thought he was good
@@frozi1541 if you mean safe as in creating north korea on pandora, then yeah it was very safe
To Aurelia beeing a siren:
In Jakob's Estate there is an echo where she says to Troy that the stuff she does is based on nano-technology
@@RemingtonSteel eh, is she?
i mean, she's got ice speciality which is cool and all
but athena's got elemental boosting, several different elemental based skils, can absorb elemental damage from enemies and reflect it back, she's essentially got two really good build concepts, being cryo + melee or her shock elemental spam stuff, etc.
aurelia's probably got the best elemental skill tree in the series, admittedly, but athena feels far more like a siren.
@@leeman27534 malestorm Athena is a being that only Salvador himself could clash in a fair fight with
@@PianoEmu1120 Yeah, Maelstrom Athena is a ton of fun. Stormweaving giving you infinite ammo is just icing on the cake. Throw a Storm Front grenade and enjoy those 500 instant stacks.
Oh no, it’s Kojima guest-writing the Borderlands franchise!
She has sex with Troy and survives. Not a siren.
I feel like the New-U was canon in the early stages of making Borderlands, as it was a fun, in-universe way to explain why everyone was crazy with little fear of death, and why the psychos and bosses respawned. An interesting way to bridge game design with story. But they probably would have abandoned that quickly as it meant the most simple stake for story writing; death, no longer applied.
I know i am late but to add to this is that a canon new u respawn system would kimda dumb from jack to not shut down. He tried to kill us but if the new u where canom this would mean he'd kill us but we woiöd just respawn until we kill him. So alone from that logic standpoint i'd say it should be only a gameplay mechanic but no canon
@@andreauster1997I'm also replying late, but I always saw it as him not really bothering to take you off the respawn list because of his arrogance and greed. If you die, he makes money. If you don't die, he's convinced you won't win anyway, so you're more of an annoyance than a threat, so whatever. Plus, he did hire you even if it was just to trick and kill you, maybe you got put on a list of Hyperion contractors that had respawning as a perk of working for the company. These are all just theories though.
I'd personally assume everyone else in the Crimson Raiders was taken off the respawn list before he actually started his full takeover of Pandora just to make it easy to reduce resistance from the "evil bandits" that he saw as not even being human.
That bullet hole in Claptrap is probly just the one he got from Jack at the end of Claptastic Voyage
Its in the exact same spot
@@smurph1994 yeah 100%
I’m super confused why he didn’t know that
Half the stuff on this list I had never heard of but I knew this one
The pre sequel was the 1st borderlands I played. Which after playing it I knew I had to check out the rest of the borderlands. Now I love all the borderlands.
Yo do you know what gun he’s using
@@deadlife7603the flipper in bl3
the whole Rhys being CEO of Atlas was explained in Tales from the borderlands, Handsome Jack had the deed to Atlas in his office, Rhys grabbed it before shit went down.
@@timfuller1533 its canon, not a theory
@@JBlade187 oh I didn't play tales
@@timfuller1533 you are missing out. Its really good
Yea i was confused how that was even a theory. Guess they didnt finish the game
I mean how Rhys is the ceo of atlas isn't a mystery but how atlas went from a company worth nothing into a megacorp so quickly is intresting
The new u stations are literally stated to be non-canon BY THEMSELVES! It's one of the respawn lines in Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep. Very common line. Anyone can go play it for themselves and hear it.
Ok A: TTAODK isn't cannon either
And B: you can't trust what they say
The Dragon keep new u says "this new u station isn't cannon" which implies the new u stations aren't in bunkers and badasses
In tps concordia has the non cannon museum and new u stations are in there
In tps there's a book titled "non canon things" or something like that and it specifically lists new u
that should be obvious, new u's would make everything and every action worth nothing, roland can return, pierce can return, the entire military structure of atlas, handsome jack, all of those bandits, etc
The Lyuda/White Death thing is actually a galaxy brain Easter egg. The names are references to famous snipers Lyudmila Pavlichenko and Simo Hayha who were on opposing sides during WWII.
The 2 snipers being on separate consoles is a reference both to WWII, but also the ongoing console war between Xbox and PlayStation
Isn’t it also named the Lyumida in some versions of the game
@@quinlanyates9530 on PlayStation it drops as Lyuda or sometimes Lyudmila. I’ve seen both
@@quinlanyates9530 Lyuda and Lyudmila are different forms of the same name
I remembered finding it as the lyudmila and wondered why nobody ever seems to talk about it, thank god I'm not crazy
@@steamtasticvagabond474 from what I understand, on Xbox 360 it was the White Death, on the PS3 it was the Lyuda, and in the Handsome Collection on both Xbox One and PS4 it’s the Lyudmila.
There’s something that’s always bugged me about the ending of BL3. Ava asks if Tyreen is dead for real, and Lilith “gives it a hard maybe”. I’m sure this was just a joke, but I don’t like even the slightest hint of ambiguity in a character’s death. It plants the smallest seed of doubt, y’know?
I've always been worried they'll bring jack back and completely ruin his legacy, especially considering people's response to tiny Tina's wonderlands, it seems more likely they might do it to try and gather hype from players
"it was confirmed Maya would have died with or without Ava's inclusion" this doesn't really prove anything other than they intended for Maya to die in the plot, though. Ava, in the story as we received it, did influence the scenario and was a likely reason for escalating the encounter that got Maya killed. now, i'm sure there's some nuance you could argue about the story, but my comment here is about how the comment Epic made is kind of irrelevant, seeing as the point of contention is about how things happen within the story we got and not the writer's intent of killing off Maya regardless.
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Killing off Maya is what makes kreigs decisions so heartfelt
I don't think its a big deal that Ava got Maya killed or not. It bothers me that Ava comes out of nowhere in that mission. Am I supposed to believe that the girl somehow snuck by that many enemies without being seen fast enough to keep up with the Vault Hunter and Maya AND be in the room with the Rampager during the fight to watch the whole thing in person without getting hurt. That part is what is BS. It would have been better for her to be in the car (regardless of it getting blown up and respawning) and pop out right before the fight that to have her just appear and spout out her stupidity in that moment.
It felt like the writers knew they wrote mighty characters in all the games that lead up to 3, and felt overwhelmed maybe or something like that, a mix of can’t continue on doing justice for the characters and a dislike for the fan base. Not that the fan base matters too too much with games, but when you kill off the characters, change the art style, and provide a lack of depth for the new villains and (likely) new characters who will or won’t be sticking around.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they involve the timekeeper eridian later on. I will be surprised if they don’t retcon the latest bits of plot, or at least time warp patch things up.
@@manniebradley3768fuck Kriegs decision making gimme back my fucking dawg😭
I feel like for the first couple “theories” he did no explaining and just assumed we knew what he was talking about
Let's be honest: given the quality of the BL3 story, Penn and Teller's cameo was a nice break.
It's is
Yeah I thought it was kinda funny
It didn't even register until this video, and to just further I thought he was still saying Pain and Terror until he literally said something about Pen Jillette
Only part of the campaign I thought was actually funny
i honestly thing the spin-off coming out is gonna be better than 3
I feel like the massive wait and buildup of borderlands 3 hurt it when it finally came out. Kinda like the “Astroworld effect” where the buildup completely outshines the product
I completely agree dude. I was so excited for borderlands three initially, and the wait was honestly fun. Two days into the game I finished it and didn't really want to go back.
I saw nothing wrong with the Pain and Terror stuff. It fits the Borderlands recipe perfectly.
With all the insane stuff in the BL universe it makes no sense to get so upset about Penn and Teller having characters in it
One of the better parts of the game fore sure
Pain and Terror was one of the better pop cultural references in 3, but thats not saying much, lol
i enjoyed pain and terror much more than tyreen and troy
when i first played the game i didnt know who Penn and Teller were but i liked the characters
Pre-Sequel is just basically a HUGE Borderlands 2 DLC, it plays exactly the same but adds those jetpack thingies, and the Claptrap DLC for it was so good it's a bit gutting that they cancelled the rest of them.
1:06:03 "We can always bring you back, unless you died in a cutscene." is a New-U quote in Bl3, so that could be some evidence for that.
On a brochure in the game New-U stations are is the non cannon museum
U can't trust a thing they say
People complain about how hard Voracidous is, while I think only true challenging raid boss is Grandma Flexington... Even Salvador can’t money shot his way outta this one...
oh hi
I'd say FaceMcShooty is the hardest raid bosses no matter what I just can't beat him 😭
the sham starts in the high 70% chance, a white vladof can have a 1% absorb chance. its down to the parts attached to the shield
Triple bandit gets the worst Absorb chance
77% is the lowest it can roll. That is if key parts are Dahl.
@@TheMorrogoth i thought it was 76% was the lowest with triple bandit parts.
@@notkingofnidoking7229 Nah. The lowest possible roll a Sham can have is 77%.
This is if the body, battery and capacitor are of Dahl.
76% is a myth.
@@TheMorrogoth pretty sure it just rounds to 77% because it's 76.6% as the lowest
To the ClapTrap bullet hole:
I believe that the bullet hole is a reference to when Jack shot Claptrap in the Claptrap DLC in Bl:tps. The bullet hole is in the exact same place as in the DLC.
The reason why the bullet hole isn't in-game is probably just because Gearbox forgot about it
If there’s anything I learned from Borderlands is that Lilith has got to be the biggest idiot in the crimson raiders
Maybe behind ava
Maybe
Being a siren has to delete brain cells and the only one who tried to study to gain them back was Maya.
41:37 I just got a voice line literally yesterday while farming the handsome sorcerer from the new u station.
“Handsome hack wants to let you know, the New-U stations are not canon”
funny enough, if your paid attention to grandma torgue she clearly states she saw captain scarlet at one point, and it really wouldn't make sense to mention a character by name that we didn't know yet(also wattle gobbler dlc came out after scarlet). therefore she is definitely still alive.
Not only that, but she also says that captain scarlet fought you and said something along the lines of "it was the greatest fight she's ever had" - So it seems to practically guarantee she is alive after your meeting her yes.
---- I double checked and yes, if you go to the "Borderlands 2 Wattle Gobbler DLC Raid Boss Grandma Torgue?" video by 'MorninAfterKill' at 8:48 then you see the exact statment. It says she agreed she fought the vault hunter after grandma asked and she said the vault hunter was really good at fighting and won fair and square.
@@zanakanishi i thourougly hope to see her as new dlc some day, maybe appearing with rose. A notorious pirate captain and a cowboy samurai gangleader vs the vaulthunters would be legendary.
I literally froze in place when I heard that tiny Tina was kreigs dad.
There are voice lines in the game talking about how Wilhelm was poisoned. When you are fighting him you can hear him say how something is wrong and someone made a mistake. It is very easy to hear if you just listen during the fight. He does say out loud something is wrong with him and someone made a mistake when getting him ready. I believe Jack also says in game he affected Wilhelm why else do you think you vaulthunters could have killed him if not even the last vault hunters could hurt him
It's all cut dialogue in the files
@@jiubus No what I am referring to is something you can do right now and hear. If you fight Wilhelm and actually listen to what he says you can hear him saying he can feel something is wrong and that someone made a mistake. It isnt cut content you literally just have to go and test it. Dont gun him down in 5 seconds just lower his health by about half and he will talk about it
@@BlackAxon it could have been cut but I thought there was a scene after he barrages sanctuary that he says something along the lines of “did you really think you losers could kill wiheilm when the last four vault hunters had to run away like cowards”
I heard it in game as well
I dont remember hearing the dialouge for this but jack planned for wilhelm to die so that the power core reactor that you steal from wilhelm and bring to sanctuary will bring down sanctuary's sheild
The funny thing about the bee conference call is that is shows that the developers of the game at one point,particularly early on, actually intended to have a balanced game in BL2. But eventually the scope of how broken the game just never set in for them at this point. Weapon merging was discovered as a bug, and then people realized you can perform the bug by just using Salvador's gunzerking, combining rocket launchers with other weapons to apply their huge damage to a higher firerate gun was found, which eventually evolved to its peak of the pimperhab(Later when those weapons were released with dlcs). B0re was discovered to be completely broken and bugged letting Zer0(And later Gaige with a similar skill) one shot bosses like bnk3r and even raid bosses. Gaige can give herself permenant super powerful shield regen. Eventually it become obvious that the game was too broken to fix, and they didn't bother. You can tell they gave up because at one point, nerfing Shield Amp damage(Usually the bee due to no shield charge cost on the amp damage) and multi pellet weapons was patched in the case of the Conference Call, for being too powerful. But you can still combine the bee with other multi-pellet weapons to regain the effect. Like a ricochet fibber. That you use on gaige. With 400 anarchy stacks, and infinite shield regen with the buck up glitch and the Bee shield.
The sad part of this is that in giving up in making a balanced game, they decided OP levels are fine. When really the only viable way to play in OP10 is to abuse the fuck out of bugs. I mean gaige can't even max anarchy stacks hive bomb raid bosses with a bee shield anymore on op10 the resistances are so ridiculous. Good thing she can make herself immune with the buck up glitch i guess.
main issue with bl2 is uvhm is an absolute disaster. forcing people to slag everything is incredibly unfun and repetitive. it's one of the reasons why i think the pre sequel is a more fun game to max out on: it feels way more balanced and doesn't overstay its welcome
This thread is why I think BL2 is a tad overrated when compared to TPS and BL3.
I think 3 is the best as far as gameplay, followed by TPS and then BL2.
I see your pimperhab combo and raise it with the pimp-cream. Moxxxi launcher that does about half the damage of the ahab but also heals you. Never have to switch out after finding that glitch. And if you run out of rockets then every pimpernel pellet gets money shot. Combine with a slag pimp and poof you're broken. First shot slags and the rest does triple damage and heals you.
Tiny Tina's LEFT eye and movement is bugged, but they left it in because it's funny
Claptrap being shot was done by Jack at the end of the Pre-Sequel, same spot too. That led into Borderlands 2.
about the vault hunters being evil, I figure that's kind of a shallow take on it
i think one of the cool things about borderlands is how it subverts classic hero morality. the vault hunters are clearly not supposed to be good people, they are greedy and violent and many side quests have you do pretty shitty stuff to people. zane is literally an assassin and professional thief, for example. borderlands is more about letting you be amoral and not judging the player for doing video gamey stuff, like killing lots of people for money and loot
Kill or be killed
For the past borderlands I'd agree but damn in borderlands 3 it clearly feels like you play as the hero even though Zane and flak are literally a ex assassin and a murderous robot, and I hate it
@@solidsnakeshugecake i mean Flak is literally a homicidal maniac, and they try to make them a hero by having this whole "save the universe" generic doomsday plot, not to mention how they steamrolled the siren lore into oblivion, it's such a goddamn mess
Morally questionable characters are always more interesting than Superman Clone 7
@@solidsnakeshugecake I noticed this as early as Borderlands 2, in the first game Vault Hunters are just seen as fools hunting a myth, Pierce considers us a bit of a nuisance. Cut to the start of Borderlands 2 when we first get to Sanctuary and meet Reese, suddenly Vault Hunters are treated like Spartans are in the Halo games.
There are quite a few 'alternate' ways of Maya to die stories out there that coudld fit perfectly in the story. The unlock of the vault monster could initialy be prevented by Maya who sacrifice herself to hold back the planet, then Lillith does her thing. Another is she overdone her body using her powers, she slowely dying, bring Krieg back, give them their moment, she passes as she tells Ava she will be next. The whole problem (just like Roland or Birdie) is not the fact she would die, is the fact HOW she died. Ava first couldve grown into a likeable character (nobody likes her now), before Maya had to pass on. Sure some are mad about Maya dying, but majority is mad about how she had to die.
The Pre-Sequel had the most fun vault hunters to play with. If it got the same detailed skill trees as BL3, it would make it even better. Just the skill possibilities for claptrap alone.
TPS characters in bl2 would be godly
@@xexeed1363 pc modders wya
I still like zer0 and Krieg more than any tps characters but Timothy and claptrap were so fun
Pretty cool to look back on these videos and see things like the "Assault on dragon keep 2" DLC getting scrapped early on, just to realize it's because it got a green light to be turned into its own entire game... They had no idea back then lmao.
I'm all for the theory that Zero is VinylicPuma.
I mean that would explain why we didn't hear from him in a while now
What if Zero is actually YOTESLAYA
Ok i know yote is gone but would be a nice thing i reckon rip Yote
The cl4p TP bullet hole is explained in TPS credits, there's a scene where Jack shoots Cl4p TP
I loved the presequel story, watching Jack descend into madness was great. Pickles annoyed the shit out of me though
Also lasers, buttslamming, and cryo was great. The presequel had some good stuff.
His sister's mission " the other pickle"(something like it) where you save pickle's sister from being just like her brother - you get a fairly good shotgun, the boganella. Heads up, it talks smack to everyone. Censored like torgue.
I will say just 1 thing... FR4G TP + BOOMACORN
Only thing I didn't like was EVERY DAMN MISSION had the same layout, go to your objective...oh wait it's actually broken/blocked by a shield, well now you gotta go 3 other places to fix it, at first it's hardly noticeable, but they do it in damn near every mission, towards the end it was just unbearable
@@Cammmmm24 By the end I was surprised I didn't need to go find a maguffin to open all the gates in Eleseer lol
Yeah I played it like 2 years after it came out due to the hate, and then I found out it was an amazing game and I was lost why there was hate.
Rhys became ceo of Atlas because THATS THE ENTIRE PLOT OF TALES
You forgot the story that Gearbox/2K made Supmatto quit TH-cam and social media
No one talks about him because he is a moron and got what he deserved. Most of what he talked about was incorrect and speculation, and he profited off it, Robbing people blind. That in itself is shady as fuck and illegal.
Jack was a bit insane before the pre sequel it just made it more apparent how insane he was
I think I remember hearing Axton or Salvador mention new U stations in arms race and the other host quickly hushed them up about it, gave me a laugh when I heard it
Yh it's a running meme there never gonna confirm it and you can't trust what the new u stations say in game
Crazy how at 1:14:00 he was literally naming locations in the new game Wonderlands, they definitely saved those locations to make the current game
Yeah I realize that too
Lyuda and white death are a reference to opposing snipers in WW2. Lyuda being Russian and white death being Finnish in the Finnish soviet war. That reference with white death exclusive to Xbox 360 and lyuda exclusive to PS4 was a reference to the console wars at the time.
Yo do you know what guns he’s using
I feel like iceberg videos are supposed to… explain the iceberg? I thought the idea was to explain it to people who didn’t already know, but the entire first ten minutes is just “you guys already know” and just acknowledging it’s existence. So far it feels like a series of inside jokes we aren’t being let in on. But the gameplay looks dope
Shortly after bitching, things were getting explained… nvm
Pen and Teller was soooo well done to be honnest.
Idk why he was so salty about it, these games r way less serious than a lot of shooters. Thats what makes the games so fun to me. They r full of cameos and references and jokes and they r all the better for it :)
@@ianovenden984 That is exactly what I was thinking. He got so hurt over the idea that Pain in Terror existed.
Ava 100% got Maya killed, just because she would have died regardless in a different timeline or whatever, in our timeline Ava got maya killed. And then she proceeded to encourage tannis to go in front of a vault almost immediately after. Ava’s a villain
In a game a long long ago called "Blood" which Pitchford was involved in the main protagonist killed a train. The boss in The FlusterCluck is likely a nod to that .
Also it's the memory of the train scene where krieg met Maya and how the train literally took her away hence kriegs hate towards the train
I am surprised you didn’t bring up how Zer0 is likely a robot.
Fl4k says that Zer0 is familiar when they meet. They both have numbers in their name. They both have the two fang skill. They also have the same hands with four fingers.
I don't think that makes him likely a robot. FL4K is likely familiar because they are both hunters, and if there's a hunter anyone in the Borderlands would know, it'd be Zer0. Besides, Zane also knows Zer0.
Two fang is just like any other skill. Zane also has a two fang like ability to fire multiple shots. And numbers of fingers doesn't indicate if someone is a robot. The eridians have 4 fingers.
“Who is zero?? Is he vinylic puma??” I cracked the fuck upppo🤣🤣
It's masterkiss
what a boatload of AZZ
I think I scoffed like crazy hearing that tbh
no hes tannis
Man I keep rewatching his videos, it'd be nice if he came back one day
borderworlds was an app they opened for a shirt while to get community stories about what kind of world were in the universe of borderlands
Correction: shams lowest absorb chance is 77%, not 1%
1% can only be acquired from a white rarity absorb shields with triple bandit parts
Also, the sham on its own, isnt really rare, due to how easy the bunker farm is, and how it's a dedicated drop
Now, for the dragons keep dlc, yea for now, new game coming out 2022, not a dlc, an entire new game
I lowest is 76.6 but it rounds up to 77 in the file's
Clap trap was shot by handsome jack. he is the last claptrap that is alive AFTER PRESEQUEL
New-U isnt canon since every time someone talks with us after we beat a important boss, even if we die numerous times, they act like we killed it at first time. Besides that, all characters once playable and now dead dont return. Even in BL3 New-U jokes that they can bring us back at any time considering that we dont die in a custscene.
About Rose being a Siren, the theory revolves around the fact that she has Core running through her veins and it kinda gives her the ability to strenghten her shots when flowing it into her gun. Her tattos are also marks of Core, as was said in the DLC that the more tattos you have inside the Devil Riders, higher your rank, and those tattos were made of Core. Besides that, she had control over the Ruiner (which, by the way, anyone would have if learned the song that her grandma teached to her mom, that teached to her), but everyone seems to forgive that both Rose and Ruiner were experiments of Jakobs with Core to (apparently) create a Siren and a Vault monster that would work under its control. Clearly she isnt a Siren
And about no Invicibles for "over a year", thats not true. Borderlands 3 launched in september, Maliwan Takedown was launched on november, 2 months later. Of course it would be better to launch the game with a Invincible to fight, but telling that take over a year till we have one is a overstatement
I honestly love when youtubers talk about community moments as much as you did, it reminds us that we're all humans who share a passion and some real drama, sometimes hilariously dumb drama happened, and its not ALL about the games but the greater community.
Bottom of iceberg: what happened to the people in Concordia and what happened to laser weapons
As far as i know, it was hard to sell them on Pandora or smthing
Concordia guys moved to Pandora if they wanted
I will never understand why you got that upset over a cameo in borderlands 3. It was entertaining and it fit well with the tone of the game if you ask me
I love the game but I don't like randy pitchford I feel like eventually he's just gonna turn the game into Fortnite and pay to win you can see the evolution of marketing throughout the games
Wasn't claptrap shot at the end of the claptastic voyage DLC? Would that explain the bullet hole? Because we know that frag-tp is the claptrap in bl2 from the scene after that DLC.
Funny enough its was always the same Claptrap Unit through all of the games.
Frag-trap IS our claptrap. After the events of the claptastic adventure, he had the frag-trap programming removed as it was part of the h-source. Jack shot him, dumped him in frostbite glacier, and then bl2 starts some time later
Not as much as an iceberg thing, but there's also a Dark Souls easter egg in the Caustic Caverns
I started playing borderlands when I was 8. I'm 17 and I still love playing both borderlands 1 and 2. Not once did I think bosses could be farmed until I bought the legendary edition. Good times
I've been playing since around that age as well, I feel like a chunk of my brain is dedicated to borderlands by this point lmao. I alternate playing bl1 and bl2 every few months.
im in the same boat but i just decimated borderlands 2 and picked 3 up when in launched never farmed bosses until i went to run back through the map and bewm boom were waiting for me
Some minor additional factoids that are more in regards to Randy Pitchford himself, as he is no stranger to controversy:
- It is alleged that in 2014 Randy accidently left a USB drive at a Texas restaurant the Borderlands dev team was eating at and the drive contained both sensitive personal documents related to Gearbox and very graphic pornography featuring an underage actress. Randy himself has stated the girl present in the video was of legal age and he had kept the video because it had a "magic trick" and Randy wanted to contact the actress to have her premiere on the cover of a magic magazine.
- Randy Pitchford is singlehandedly responsible for modern video game commercials specifying if game footage is authentic or not, as he made several false claims during the development of Aliens: Colonel Marines that the prototype visuals and proposed game mechanics were in-game assets despite the game being in development hell.
- Claptrap's original voice actor David Eddings was physically assaulted by Randy Pitchford at the 2017 GDC due to Eddings mentioning both the alleged Gearbox buyout as well as the lawsuit that publicized the controversial USB drive, which was submitted by ex-Gearbox lawyer Wade Callender. Upon hearing these claims Randy had violently shoved Eddings and was subsequently fired after the GDC conference, explaining why Claptrap's voice is altered in Borderlands 3.
- In 2019 Randy was accused of monetary theft in as much as $12M as an advance upon royalties. He essentially pocketed money intended for Gearbox.
The USB of the 'barely legal' cam girl 'squirting' that was left at a Medieval Times restaurant was admitted to by Randy himself as a guest on a magic show podcast. Someone needs to tell Randy, "It's not a magic trick, it's just pee." Speaking about Aliens: Colonial Marines, the funniest factoid is that the AI for the Aliens was broken for years until someone discovered it was due to a missing letter 'a' in a single line of code.
In the arms race DLC, one of the lines that can play from Axton has something to do with new you stations, and then Salvador says that he wasn't supposed to mention that.
There's a side mission in BL2 called "[unalive] Yourself" that Jack gives you, knowing full well the New-U (that he owns and controls) will revive you. Might not be canon, but fucking hilarious.
One of the revival lines also references the plot of SOMA, "Hyperion suggests that you do not think about the fact that this is only a digital reconstruction of your original body, which died the first time you respawned. Do NOT think about this!"
41:34 This entry referes to a pamphlet in the pre sequel that says "The Non-Canon Museum: New-U Stations! Skill Points! Plot inconsictencies!"
Jack was a child abuser way before tps, he abused Angel for years. He was never a good guy. Just another monster in a universe full of them.
Dude, thank you for this video. It's fantastic. This brought back so many good and pain inducing memories. I miss the hype around the discovery and leaks of the Commander Lilith DLC, and then the rumors about BL3 releasing. You made me relive the pain of wanting Luxy's Space Adventure so badly... I also wanted to comment that Gearbox had copyrighted the name "Borderworlds" at some point before BL3's release. That's why the community thought that BL3 would be called Borderworlds.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Noooo I'm so late but seeing as TPS is hands down my favorite borderlands game, Joltz' video about Luxys space adventure left me crushed because we weren't getting the dlc. RIP 2K Australia :/
@@KREAM-2003 Luxy's Space Adventure seemed to live on in memory! The premise of the DLC was reused a lot throughout other DLCs, it felt like. Most notably the Commander Lilith DLC.
@@5h4de4 that is fair, I haven't touched borderlands 2 since the fight for sanctuary came out so I had totally forgotten about the "spore zombie" enemies (sorry for lack of better term lmao). Even tho it still lived on through the fight for sanctuary my heart continues to ache for TPS :(:
Aurelia denies being a Siren outright in an Echo Log in the mission where you fight her. She says it's skill and nanobots.
The Seventh Siren (Phase Leech) was a power locked in the vault where Typhon DeLeon and his wife conceived their twins. It definitely exists, and is now out in the world.
Honestly i really like pain and terror in borderlands 3 lol. Also in the end of dlc6, its confirmed lilith is alive.
Well, we got our Dragons Keep 2. Wonderlands is exactly what you described. So, it's great to know that wonderlands only came to be because of the unused assets from dragons keep.
I'm pretty sure it was just supposed to be a dlc. Then they just kept adding and adding to it making it a game
Evil Smasher glitch was hands down my favorite thing in borderlands history. Was devastated when they patched it.
Captain Scarlett is alive, if you listen to Grandma Flexingtons story, at one point she mentions how she ran into Scarlett after her fight with the Vault Hunter
I agree on the lack of conventional raid bosses. I think that no modern Looter Shooter should launch without at least 1 superboss/raid type enemy. And in the case of BL3 they could just have made us play through all the trials once to unlock a new map that holds a royal rumble style raid boss fight against much stronger and tankier versions of the trial bosses with us fighting multiple of them at once. Easy enough to make, good enough to enjoy.
Nice pfp
Clap trap was shot at the end of Claptastic voyage by jack because he wanted to kill all claptraps .hahaha. Not sure how you know all this stuff but not that because it was a cut scene at the end of the dlc in the presequel XD
I love the borderlands series, and its hilarious because i got bl2 for christmas, my dad thought i asked for it despite never knowing it existed, worked out lol
I lucked out with the vip service by buying the cult of the vault shirt from Spencer's, the lady at the desk didn't understand how the points cards worked and it was the last day for the event so she gave me 10 cards. I bought like 3 or 4 heads.
Claptrap is shot by Jack in the end of presequel when he destroys all the cl4pt units and Hyperion dumps claptrap and all the other units into a snowy plain where as a lone survivor he meets sir hammerlock and that's where he meets the vault hunters at the start of bl2
Earl ate eridium and now eats everything….the destroyer eats stars……”strange”
BL3 extra elements that would have been a good unique or legendary
Vampirism
Core
Ghost
Terror
Idea: Head Grenade, a grenade that does headshots and crits
In the happy together trailer for bl3, mount jackmore was in the background.
Also, there is dialogue for a cut mission that had mount jackmore as a map.
Also you should have brought up the SupMatto saga, as well as scooper ( the cut son of scooter)
Aurelia isn't a siren. There's an audio log where she tells one of the twins that it's an implant.
Zane being Jack's Doppelganger is cool. But how about Zane is Wilhelm and the one that the Bl2 Vault Hunters killed was his doppelganger?
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@@lorddeathicasjr.396 I'm as confused as you are friendo
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 same
Its possible for the Wilhelm to be a doppelganger because when you see his corpse its just an engineer in a big suit
Hidden in the game code was a line from Jack talking about poisoning Wilhelm so the vault hunters could actually kill him
U guy do realize that fresh-stick sold Tiny Tina's parents to hyperion for Slag testing.
A thing I accidentally found: On Xbox360 and PS3, if you start split-screen and disable it, it turns VSync off and the game plays with an uncapped framerate. It doesn't play 60fps (unless you look at the sky), but you'll definitely notice a difference.
Githion's heart was constantly mentioned in the DLC..... never anything about Githion, only his/her/it's heart, so I honestly wasnt expecting a giant monster w/ a hole in it's chest, honestly expected a repeat of Hammerlock's BL2 DLC.... where the final boss falls over and kills himself
Yeah, I really can't imagine how we would fight him, considering that his body takes up 90% of some of the dlc's locations
@@Loderyod true, could have been a case of "we invade it's head and shoot at it's brain while it summons minions to defend it" but hey... that would have been the lazy path lol
I choose to believe that jackenstein was the final boss
I would like to disagree with your opinion on the Heart. While I will agree that as the Heart, as a Vault Monster, is a dissappointment, I feel that it fits from a STORYLINE point of view. Remember that the BL3 Hammerlock DLC is very Lovecraftian, and the Big Monster in a Lovecraft story is never really seen directly.
In Eden six before you fight the anointed the slot machines show a red rarity reward. Spent millions but didn't get one yet
"The white death", was a Finnish sniper named Simo Hayha. He was a crack shot known for ridiculous accuracy and K/D
You don’t have a K/D in real life.
@@puttputt524 yes you do
@@puttputt524 everyone does have one lmao
K/D hahaha wtf
1:09:37 this is a reference to when Claptrap got shot during the end cutscene of the Claptrap DLC in the Pre Sequel. If you go back and watch it, the bullet holes are in the same place.
I cant tell if he's actually being serious or if this is one giant shitpost
Pretty sure he was, mainly in and the deaths arent canon joke op100
No way he could be serious.
1:09:00 - Claptrap was shot in Presequel, however Borderlands 2 claptrap had no bullet wound; so for Borderlands 3, Gearbox updated Claptrap with the bullet wound.
So fan theory to justify voice actor switch, the bullet wound hit claptraps voice components.
"Not one of you who's played BL2 hasn't farmed fleshstick" I've literally never heard of fleshstick and I have about three hundred hours in bl2
How tho. So you have never even had the tea cup pistol before? That thing shreds!
From memory here: Flesh Stick is part of the Cordially Invited quest line from Tina's house. Relevant to the Iceberg video, Im pretty sure audio logs reveal (not going to spoil too hard,) flesh stick captured Tina's parents which led to their death.
@@RBradenG that explains it. I don't like Tina, so involve her as little as possible
the weird thing is, i don't recall farming 'him'.
i'd purposely die to get dozens of waves of killing his allies for a little bit of a level boost, maybe, but not strictly 'him'.
I remember him but didn’t farm him cuz I hate the Tina map
Rose’s eyes glowed green in that DLC. There’s no way she’s NOT a siren. And it was in a cutscene so, canon 😂
Lol they told that Wonderlands would have melee weapons, waiting to see if Roses sword is playable there
That’s pretty funny Roland is Kevin hart two years later 😂😂