🎹 Yamaha P125 vs P225 | Yamaha P-Series Digital Piano Showdown | Sound, Features and Quality Demo 🎹

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    Introduction
    The Yamaha P-225 replaces their P-125a, a keyboard that was still fairly current a few months ago.
    We’ll compare these models to find the upgrades and differences so if you are looking for new or used versions of these keyboards, you will know what the key differences are.
    The P-125 and P-125a are strong instruments with many likable features. Some of these were the best in their price category; notably, the tuning and performance of the onboard speakers. In the USD600 range, an instrument with a great sonic presentation stood out. The P-125 was also one of the first instruments to offer a USB Audio interface and discrete ¼ inch audio outputs for that price range. Other manufacturers caught up, but it took a couple of years.
    The P-125a removed the USB Audio interface functionality and included what seemed likely a slightly upgraded GHS action. This was most likely a trade-off to keep the price stable while removing a feature that most people were probably not using.
    While the P-225 is an upgrade to the P-125, the price point has remained unchanged. Has Yamaha found a way to be more efficient, or have they removed features?
    A Trio of Likes
    Yamaha P-125a
    First, the speaker performance is top-of-class for this price range. It’s punchy, tight, and has a lot of detail and clarity coming out of the top of the instrument.
    Second, what feels like a slightly improved GHS action resulting in the best version yet. It’s fairly responsive, quick, and medium in terms of its weight and balance.
    Third, the ¼ inch outputs and manual speaker controls which are common features of keyboards in the $1,000 price range or higher, but not in this price range.
    Yamaha P-225
    First, the esthetic look of the instrument, including a more minimalist look and compressed form factor. The P-225 is less thick than the P-125 and is also a bit lighter.
    Second, while both models use the Virtual Resonance Modeling Lite engine, the P-225 has been upgraded to the CFX sample set from the CF sample set.
    Third, the return of the USB Audio interface. The result of a possibly unpopular decision to remove it from the P-125a.
    Some Noticeable Differences
    Sample Set and Action
    If used primarily without headphones, the main differences will be in the speaker performance and action. With headphones, the CFX sample set and action will stand out as the main differences.
    The CFX sample used on the P-225 has more complexity and thickness, while the action is a new, more compact one with a slightly shorter pivot length and a different weighting system. There is a much different sense of weight and resistance when playing closer or further from the edge of the keys. The P-125a has a lighter touch, and the P-225, due to the geometry of the shorter pivot length, has a slightly slower return. Also, the P-125 has a larger key depth which will also contribute to the difference in sensation.
    Speakers
    When compared side-by-side, there is an enormous difference between the speaker performance of the two keyboards. The P-225 has a warmer, more mid-range tone, that is absent of the upper detail that the P-125 provides. This is due to the large upward-facing tweeter and large downward-facing mid-range speaker in the P-125.
    The P-225 has small 5 cm tweeters porting to the front with the mid-range speaker facing the back. This requires the keyboard to be adjacent to a wall to hear the detail of the sound. The P-225 tweeters are not outputting the same level of detail as the ones in the P-125a.
    The sound of the P125a is not categorically better than that of the P-225, but there is a big difference between them.
    Stu’s Thoughts
    If a clear tone and slightly lighter action are important to you, spend the time to find a good condition used P-125 or P-125a, or a new one if you can find it. If you want a warmer tone with less high-end and detail coming out of the speakers, the P-225 is right for you.
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  • @paulbennett274
    @paulbennett274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Good to see an honest review from a dealer not shying away from fair criticism where justified, even at the expense of potential sales; just as I would expect from Stu and Merriam Pianos!

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for the kind words and support! We appreciate it. :)

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They're not a Yamaha dealer though🎹🎶

    • @mattelvislindsay1326
      @mattelvislindsay1326 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MerriamPianos somehow I knew that the upgrade to the p125 would not be much of an upgrade. And I got lucky because I actually found a NEW P125 standard version! New! Not the cheesy p125a. And I won't be selling it

  • @richarpadilla1891
    @richarpadilla1891 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Your videos are awesome ,informative i really enjoy it !

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks so much! We're glad you find them helpful! :)

  • @wooyulan
    @wooyulan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes, definitely helpful,useful and always entertaining thanks so much 😊

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you kindly! We're glad you found the video helpful. :)

  • @branislavvartik5032
    @branislavvartik5032 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great content, love your reviews Stu!

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We appreciate it. :)

  • @Mr850man
    @Mr850man 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Once again my boy Stu with the videos the people need

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for tuning in! I'll pass along the kind words to Stu for you. :)

  • @crispbuttr1469
    @crispbuttr1469 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been binging your videos for a while, and always appreciate Stu's honesty. Will you guys ever compare it to the PX S1100 considering the similarities in prioritizing the compact size? Cheers!

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much! We appreciate the kind words and support! I will be happy to pass along your suggestion to our production team for you. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle a comparison of the PXS1100 to the P225 model. :)

  • @illusionyx907
    @illusionyx907 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hundreds pianos have a different sound similar to the all Grand pianos....for home simple use both are great pianos and no need to imagine that a previous model is old so bad and next model is perfectly new so good...a quality play depends of pianist himself/herself....Very good review!

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      These are all very good points! Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts. We appreciate it! :)

  • @m3rc743
    @m3rc743 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not a yamaha user but tried the p225 out on my local store and loved it. I'm used to kawai since I've always been favoring their sounds, but the action of the yamaha is superb

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for sharing your insights and experience with the P225! :)

  • @rayford3300
    @rayford3300 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your comments and demos. I think you’re completely right about there being big differences between the 125b and the 225. Playing them so closely side by side they were as different as chalk and cheese. I much prefer the 125b model which has a more authentic piano sound compared to a rather muffled or muted sound from the 225. I know which one I would consider and it’s not the latter.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're very welcome! Thanks for taking the time to check out our channel! We're glad that our videos were helpful to you. It comes down to a matter of subjectivity of course, but that is why it is important to demo and explore the various piano models for comparison whenever possible.

  • @samdrey6555
    @samdrey6555 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video as usual, thanks ! 🤗 quick side question, what's the model of the dual-keyboard stand ? I'm looking for a P225 but keeping my PSR-1500 on top if, for rythm and other sounds that don't exist on the P225 ... need a solid, stable dual-keyboard stand for both 🤔

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! The dual Z-stand is a Hercules KS410B. They're very durable and solid! :)

    • @samdrey6555
      @samdrey6555 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MerriamPianos very nice ! 🤩 thanks so much for the information ! 😊🤗

    • @samdrey6555
      @samdrey6555 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MerriamPianos thanks so much for the info !! 🤗🤗

  • @CosmicTaco-yi3um
    @CosmicTaco-yi3um 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good vid.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much! :)

  • @tonybartonemusic
    @tonybartonemusic 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My p225 sustain pedal makes a mechanical noise like the movement of a real piano. Do you know if I can turn that feature off ?
    Thank you

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you mean that it is physically making that sound or the sound is being digitally rendered through the piano's tone engine?

  • @sonic2000gr
    @sonic2000gr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're right about the speakers. I just wonder how this performance changes when it's setup near the wall as many of these 'home pianos' are.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The placement of the instrument can certainly play a role in the sonic experience based on where the speakers are located of course. There are a lot of factors that come into play.

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe that placing outward facing speakers near a hard wall is advantageous. My P-255 (not a misprint) has almost the same arrangement. Great against walls, even the edge of my desk. This configuration suffers a lot on band gigs though, particularly if there's a musician standing in front of the speakers who is irritated by them, while I'm struggling to hear myself. My speakers are more powerful than those on the P-225, so I expect the P-225 speakers to be even more useless for stage monitoring. Might be OK in a restaurant, or any place with reflective surfaces nearby.
      I bought a P-121 fot travelling - the world's most portable digital piano that boasts a graded weighted action. So far, I like the upwards pointing speakers, and the GHS action is OK for light use, but more tiring than the GH action on my P-255. GHS has been improving, because I used to find it unplayable with fast arpeggios. It will be interesting to see how the GHC action is, but the compact concept seems unnecessary to me. I notice that compact pianos slide about more on double X stands, and look silly on them too. IMO, ultra slim is an inappropriate way to make pianos more portable. 88 keys simply don't fit easily into normal cars anyway.

  • @DougyWW
    @DougyWW หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really like the short version sound comparisons, much easier for my ancient ears to hear the differences. Now a question: I have to play with one or two octaves between my hands (mangled wrists falling from falling off horses) so I split my P125’s keyboard and place the octaves I want under where the hands can play they BUT if I use the same piano sound for both hands the processor gets “confused” depending on where I shift the octave. At what level of instrument is this unusual application/setup no longer a problem? BTW, thanks for the tip about the action, I’m working on my first song in F# with harmony and finding the keys are a real workout played that high up, can’t imagine playing an instrument with a heavier action.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! We are glad to hear it! And congrats on working on your first F# song. I can totally understand what you mean about the fingers feeling fatigued, but a heavier action will give more control and strengthen the fingers in the process. I find the Roland pianos to be the most adjustable in terms of split functionality, so it may be worth exploring those options.

  • @BensMusicDojo
    @BensMusicDojo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I played the 225 recently and preferred the feel of the keys over any other Yamaha action I have played

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is awesome to hear! It is a very subjective matter of course. Each player will have a different preference and opinion.

    • @mfurman
      @mfurman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you!

    • @Kazzerra578
      @Kazzerra578 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Out of curiosity, what yamahas are you comparing it to?

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@Kazzerra578That's a good question! I suppose it is only fair to compare this GHC action to other plastic actions. Certainly, the common GHS action is disliked by quite a few players, though Yamaha does seem to have improved it. I doubt that many players would prefer GHC over GH3 (see YDP-165) and I doubt I would prefer GHC over GH (see P-255) though there may be some similarities there. Also, all the ones I have listed (except for GH3) have only two sensors.
      It really is time for Yamaha to bring out a $1300 portable piano with a tri-sensor plastic action, proper EQ faders, a battery operation option, and a modest weight. Then it can compete with the FP-60X, the ES920 and the PX-S5000.

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Am glad you like the action. Let's hope that Yamaha is on the right track with GHC. I reserve judgement, despite being suspicious of anything "compact".

  • @raf73030
    @raf73030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ciao Stu ciao Brent mi dite secondo voi quale è lo stage piano digitale 88 tasti con i migliori speakers integrati dove si può collegare un microfono per suonare il piccoli locali ed evitare un'amplificazione esterna? Grazie in anticipo della risposta un saluto dalla Sicilia

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi! Brent here! The vast majority of "true stage pianos" do not actually have onboard speakers on them. With that said, based on what you've described, I would suggest that a feature-rich, all-in portable digital piano would be the best bet. Models like the Roland FP90X come to mind. If you're looking for a more economical option, the Roland FP-E50 is quite compelling as well. The speakers may not be quite powerful enough with the FP-E50 though depending on the size of the venue. Thanks and hope this helps! :)

    • @raf73030
      @raf73030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MerriamPianos grazie della gentile e celere risposta mi piacerebbe una vostra recensione del dexibell s8 pro m.!!! Al prossimo video vi seguo sempre

  • @Zoco101
    @Zoco101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My thanks to Stu for a very frank and open-handed comparison.
    This confirms what I thought about the P-225 speaker position. It is quite good for typical home placement against a wall, but at a noisy gig the monitor sound would just disappear. Might be OK in a really intimate restaurant. The P-225 uses roughly the same speaker placement as the P-255, but the power is much less on the P-225. Even on the P-255, the monitors are useless (or worse than useless) on a noisy gig.
    The short travel and slower return of the GHC action could be a bit similar to the GH action of the P-255. Another similarity? And I have to say that it could be an advantage. When I got used to the GH action, I could play with more speed and elasticity than on any GHS action. It's as though GHS returns too quickly. So, I'm giving GHC action the benefit of the doubt till I can try it for more than the few seconds I did, even though the shorter pivot length is concerning. Yes, I'm keen to try one properly.
    Finally, Im not sure I prefer the CFX sound here. CFiiis works so well on the budget instruments.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi! Brent here! Thanks for writing in and sharing your thoughts and experiences. We appreciate it!
      As you've mentioned, these details will have an impact on what contexts the pianos will perform well in. I suppose it is difficult to find the "perfect" instrument for all settings and applications. But, that is also a good excuse to purchase an arsenal of different instruments, which can be quite a fun process in itself!
      Also, it is always a good idea to test out these instruments in person whenever possible as tone and touch preferences are highly subjective.

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MerriamPianos Yes indeed. There's nothing like trying the instruments for yourself. An arsenal of dps? Hmm, always tempting! Well, many of us can justify more than one.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Zoco101personally I thought the CFX sample on my DGX670 sounded ok, but lacking resonance. Good thing it remembers changes in the setting so I don't have to keep turning up the damper resonance every time I turn on the keyboard + the whay you adjust the damper resonance isn't really blind pianist friendly🎹🎶

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Interesting. I increased both damper resonance and string resonance on my P-255. It remembers my changes, because I have set it to do that, but it does so in a crude, blanket fashion. It would be nice to have separate registrations.
      The biggest issue I have is balancing sounds and rhythms in split mode or on playback of a sequence. I'd like to have separate volume dials or faders. It would have been useful when I did more cocktail piano gigs in Spain with backing tracks, but now I'm focused mainly on jazz band piano. I'm also preparing some new solo arrangements, playing and singing with no backings.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zoco101 yeah I just use my DGX as a piano instrument. I originaly wanted the P125, but ended up with the DGX670 because of the fuller sound. Though it only has headphone jacks there is a way to have the speakers turned onn wile the headpgone jacks are in use. The only problem is the weight, because I'm not gigging the 47LB weight isn't that of a problem to me. Just in case I still have my ES110. Just nead to have it fixed🎹🎶

  • @terrybyrne4324
    @terrybyrne4324 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've always admired Stu. And I find his reviews so informative. But wouldn't it have been better to place the microphones on the ground floor some distance away - rather than overhead. People in a lounge bar listening are not sitting on the ceiling, but our seated on ground level.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! The vast majority of the audio we capture from the pianos is done via direct line outs opposed to microphones (unless otherwise noted in the video).

  • @irisdasaigon
    @irisdasaigon 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi I'm considering between P145 and P125. Which one is better?

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It comes down to a matter of personal preference of course. I would recommend testing out both pianos in person if that is a possibility as it is the best way to figure out which touch/tone you gravitate towards more. :)

  • @davidleigh3346
    @davidleigh3346 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello from the wild Scottish Isle of Lewis. I have a 3 year old P125 which I've used in church settings and also at home. It's a top notch instrument and I'm likely to keep it for another 3 years. What we are used to now is light years ahead of digital pianos from even 10/15 years ago. But as you can covered in another video, the longevity of these instruments means replacing them is more a matter of wanting to upgrade rather than a necessity. I love the very clean sound of the 125 and it sounds amazing when it's hooked up to a good system. Only gripe is I wish it had a transpose button on the panel.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi there! Thanks for tuning in and sharing your experiences with the P125! We're happy to hear that you've been getting some good use out of it and enjoying what it offers. I know there are inevitably things on any instrument that we wish it possessed, but, if an instrument checks off 95% of the boxes, I think we're in good shape. :)

    • @Hi-xf5hr
      @Hi-xf5hr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did you have any problem with the action in 3 years? and specially the noise of the keys when you press them , will they get louder after a while?

    • @davidleigh3346
      @davidleigh3346 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Hi-xf5hr Not had any issues with the P125, but did have a P45 previously which had to have a warranty repair for one of the keys which stopped working. Another key also went funny which I had to pay for my self. But these are very rare problems from years and years of digital piano ownership

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow I'm shocked but I much preferred the sound of the P125 over the 225. One thing I have noticed about the CFX sample is it tends to get a bit over powering and muddy in the low register at least to my ears it becomes rather unpleasant with fast or chorded phrases. However the P125 has a clearer sound and less of a wet blanket sonically. At least as far as I can tell through TH-cam.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is certainly fair! Sometimes, people prefer the feel and touch of predecessor models when significant updates have been made.

    • @backyardanimals777
      @backyardanimals777 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you. I own a P125, btw.

  • @naddydatty
    @naddydatty หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ordered a P125 yesterday after finding it on sale. I considered the P225, but the difference in action and the onboard speakers left me a bit concerned after watching this. For context: I'm an audio production/engineering enthusiast more than a piano player and just recently started taking classical piano lessons. I'm not new to music theory, but piano theory specifically and the P125 seems to fit my needs a bit better. While I can always hook it up to my studio monitors, I like the option of using the onboard speakers and will probably do so most of the time. It seems that with more complex pieces, and heavy sustain usage on lower registers, the P225 speakers would lend themselves to a lot of garble and mud in the midrange. The P125 seems quite obviously brighter, having a more cohesive sound curve and more clarity, at least when using the onboard speakers. Thank you so much for this comparison! You definitely had an impact on my purchase and I cannot overstate how much I appreciate it.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Congrats on your P125 purchase! We're happy to hear that Stu's comparison was helpful in your process. It sounds like you've made an excellent selection that is well-aligned for your context of use and the sonic profile that you favour. Thanks so much and best of luck on your classical piano adventure! :)

    • @elzycollins
      @elzycollins 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which sounds better with headphones on? 🎧

    • @naddydatty
      @naddydatty 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elzycollins from what I've gathered, the P225 has a slightly updated sample set. However, I can't personally vouch for the P225 running through cans/line-out because I haven't personally heard it. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.

  • @Zoco101
    @Zoco101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding speakers. Surprising things happen. As I mentioned in another thread (maybe not a Merriam video) I did a modest stage gig recently in an 8-piece band. The other 7 instruments were acoustic. To my dismay, the promised piano turned out to be a P-45, and none of us had a Y cable to connect from headphone socket to PA. The P-45 just about held its own with two downward firing 6 watt speakers hitting the wooden floor. I was astonished. Had the speakers pointed out 1. I would not had heard myself, 2. The band and or public might not have heard me.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very cool to hear that it still held up! While the circumstances are obviously not ideal, these types of situations often help expose the true potential of an instrument. Happy to hear that it worked out! :)

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Isaw your other comment in Jeremy See's review on the Yamaha P145🎹🎶

    • @Zoco101
      @Zoco101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 I realised later that I had most of the required Y cable with me, but a 1.25 inch TRS adaptor was needed anyway. Have slipped one into the bag in case this ever happens again - I mean if I need to output via a headphone socket.
      Could also be useful on my P-121 travel piano, I mean in case I need to output through two systems at once - maybe a house PA plus an extra monitor that I bring. Happily, the P-121 offers the option to play through its own speakers, even with the headphone socket engaged.

  • @superiorsam
    @superiorsam 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have p 125, and imo it sounds better than p 225 because I don't like CFX sound sample for both P line and current clavinova (expect for montage and CP stage keyboard, it sounds good for me) which is the same sound output for both two. P125 uses CFIIIS sample, it sounds really warm for me, and CFX here for p 225 sounds pretty bright not warm, not really solid thick like my p 125 or old P line and clavinova.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That is certainly fair! It is not uncommon for players to prefer the specific tone or touch of a previous generation model. :)

  • @Roberto-qb2dj
    @Roberto-qb2dj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Li ho provati entrambi, il p225 nonostante il cfx ha un comportamento sonoro dagli altoparlanti che non permette di ascoltarne la bellezza del campione. Decisamente meglio in cuffia, il prezzo in Italia è sceso ed è allineato alla concorrenza. Per ottenere prestazioni sonore migliori dagli altoparlanti bisogna salire notevolmente di prezzo. Il p125 rimane per me imbattibile per prezzo e prestazioni. Stu, quando farai dei tutorial sulla didattica pianistica? Mi piacerebbe ascoltare una tua lezione su qualche argomento. Ciao dall'Italia❤

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! That is certainly a fair assessment. Sometimes the onboard speaker systems leave a little to be desired, but the caliber of the tone engine and samples really shines through the headphone experience. As for Stu doing more tutorial videos, I'm sure that will happen down the road again, but we don't currently have an ETA on that.

  • @mfurman
    @mfurman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I recently got P-125, P-225 and Roland FP-10 (that I already had three years ago). The depth of FP-10 (and also Kawai ES120) is very similar to P-225. I do not think that pivot length of GHC is significant shorter (if at all) than the pivot length of GHS.
    The implementation of P-225 Digital Audio Interface is 24 bit.
    GHC is a much quieter action than GHS and definitely PHA-4.
    There is not much difference between the feel of GHC than the feel of GHS.
    I think that Stu needs to get weights when testing the actions.
    There is not much difference in downweight of GHC and GHS:
    P-225
    Middle C (C4) - ~52g
    C7 - 47g
    C6 - 49g
    C2 - 52g
    C3 - 53g
    C4# - ~>50g - ~65g; 67.5g; 66g (middle of black key)
    P-125A
    Middle C (C4) - ~52g
    C7 -

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is a very subjective matter of course given that every player will have their own perspective on what the perfect feel is. Some players prefer lighter, bouncier touches, while others prefer heavier, stiffer touches. Thankfully, there are a lot of great instruments with differing actions on the market, which means that most players can find something they connect with.

    • @mfurman
      @mfurman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MerriamPianos What is objective for me is a comparison with the acoustic piano action.
      Noise of the action can be also measured by using a decibel meter. The bounciness of the action can be recorded in a video.
      These are all objective measures.
      I think that Stu should use the piano action adjustment weights when comparing the actions.
      Michael

    • @Hi-xf5hr
      @Hi-xf5hr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did you test GHS and GHC noise based on decibel?

    • @mfurman
      @mfurman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hi-xf5hr No, I just recorded the sound. I do have a decibel meter though.
      You can find “Yamaha P-225 action noise test” (also Yamaha P-125 ….)

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mfurmandoes the P225 have a meloer sound than the P125? I herd that a meloer piano even with a light action can some times feel like it have a heavier action even if it doesn't🎹🎶

  • @mazica_art2630
    @mazica_art2630 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why does the sound at 125 sound more accurate and clear?

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tone is a very subjective matter of course, so some players will prefer the sound of the P125 over the P225.

    • @ayrtoninchejanampa6874
      @ayrtoninchejanampa6874 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Es tu percepción y tus gustos

  • @cutelittlebirdie789
    @cutelittlebirdie789 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    P125b is really good i have one

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very nice! They're certainly solid pianos.

  • @Olin8891
    @Olin8891 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which is better? Yamaha P125 vs P225

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It really comes down to a matter of subjectivity. Both models have their fans. The decision seems to be quite split. I would recommend testing both out in person to see which one you resonate with more. :)

  • @randypiano11
    @randypiano11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stu is the man😁!

  • @kosomolsk
    @kosomolsk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @3:49 Checking the manual and the Smart Pianist compatibility list, the P-125 (including the "a") does not use Virtual Resonance Modeling.
    I suggest an action and sound comparison between the DGX-670 and the P-225. The DGX is the first sub-US$1000 Yamaha piano to feature VRM, and while it is isn't quite as full-spec as the -515 (to say nothing of the -525) at least you can change the amount of Damper and String Resonance which is more than the -225's On/Off. Some have also suggested the DGX's GHS is subtly better than the -125's GHS, though whether that's a change in body or a modification to the action is unknown. The speaker configuration is also different - two tweeters + two midrange, all "into your face".
    The -225 now officially sells for US$699, while the DGX's official price is US$850 but I've been told you can get it for US$800 in the US so a -225 buyer's wallet might easily stretch to cover it. The P-225 also has a few E-pianos, Organs, Strings and Bass so you can compare those as well.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for sharing these insights! We appreciate the suggestion too. A comparison between the DGX670 and P225 could be quite interesting. And that is a good point regarding the price gap being fairly small between the models. Thanks again and happy playing! :)

    • @Hi-xf5hr
      @Hi-xf5hr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MerriamPianosI wish you could make it soon I want to buy 670 this week

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Hi-xf5hrI have one, and it's great🎹🎶

  • @fantastickevinn8104
    @fantastickevinn8104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Yamaha P225 better or Casio Pxs 1100

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really comes down to subjectivity. They are both very solid instruments, so the decision comes down to personal preference. For me, I give the PXS1100 the edge in terms of sound, features, and aesthetics.

  • @vicmartinez4532
    @vicmartinez4532 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate to say that I had to replace this models because of keep breakages and the clicking of the keys

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sorry to hear that, but thanks for sharing your experiences. I hope you were able to find an instrument that you connect with!

    • @vicmartinez4532
      @vicmartinez4532 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MerriamPianos i thank you for having such wonderful guiding Channel

    • @Hi-xf5hr
      @Hi-xf5hr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      which one did you have?

  • @briansun6336
    @briansun6336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t like the new action. It’s springy as you go down, and it requires more force to keep the keys down.

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is certainly fair. Not everyone will be a fan of the changes of course.

    • @mfurman
      @mfurman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I extensively tested GHS and GHC (for more than a month each). I had P-125 in the past. I also play Yamaha C7 regularly.
      I prefer GHC!
      Michael
      Ps. I had nine digital pianos in the last four years. Among them Roland FP-90X and Yamaha P-515. I tested many more.

    • @briansun6336
      @briansun6336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mfurman I’m glad you enjoy it. I think it is a significantly worse action compared to the already horrible GHS.

    • @mfurman
      @mfurman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@briansun6336 What piano do you have? When commenting on any actions, I compare them with Yamaha C7 that I regularly play and also other digital pianos I had or tested. I had nine digital pianos in the last four years, including Roland FP-90X and P-515. I prefer GHC action to NWX (that almost prevented me from playing piano for a few weeks). I actually liked PHA50 but it was still a bit too heavy.
      The downweight for C4 for Yamaha C7 I play is only 47g.
      I of course prefer its action to GHC but GHC is better that PHA-4 (this action is very clicky - I returned four digital pianos because the noise of PHA-4 after 3-4 months).
      Michael

    • @briansun6336
      @briansun6336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mfurman i currently am playing on a P525. I played on a P115 and then a P125,each for a few months. Then I had a Kawai ES110, and a Kawai MP10. I just sold my old Kawai and bought a 515, returned it just three days after, and landed with the 525 I currently own.
      The GHS action paired with the piano sound is pretty much uninspiring and prevented me to practise, because I was so discouraged by the almost non-existing dynamic response. The dynamic range is very limited(almost non-existing) and unnatural. I seriously doubted anyone liked those. The Kawais I owned had normal dynamics, it’s just they are old machines and none of them could handle fast repeated notes.
      Tried the P515, P525 at the store, completely different instruments compared to the P125 and P225. The GHS doesn’t respond to forte at all, it never gets loud. It is a very tiring and frustrating experience. In additional to that, the keys don’t come back with a push that all the other keyboards do, so it is literally tiring as you have to lift the fingers on your own. The GHC is the complete opposite, it pushes your fingers back so strongly, that you have to fight the action to keep the keys down if you want to do finger sustain. This is gonna very taxing and I don’t want to touch anything with that keyboard just by 3 seconds of trying.
      Still, I would say the P525 is not dynamic enough from time to time, but is the best overall product in this price range. At least, it actually gets loud when I play loud.

  • @amitev
    @amitev หลายเดือนก่อน

    P-225 has a quieter action

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it does seem to be a bit quieter than its predecessor.

    • @amitev
      @amitev หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MerriamPianos I compared it with Roland FP-30, Kawai ES120 and Kawai ES520. Yamaha is the quietest.

  • @Am71919
    @Am71919 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll never part with my Yamaha p200, that thing sounds exactly like a real piano

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to hear that you've found a piano that you really resonate with! Thanks for tuning in and happy playing!

  • @xarv368
    @xarv368 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    P225 is better

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for tuning in! :)

  • @matiaserp
    @matiaserp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    P225 seems like a downgrade really. :(

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Preferences with tone and touch are highly subjective of course. But, with that said, there are times when new generations of models have major changes that not every player will be fond of.

    • @mfurman
      @mfurman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      In what sense? I recently got P-125, P-225 and Roland FP-10 (that I already had three years ago). The depth of FP-10 (and also Kawai ES120) is very similar to P-225. I do not think that pivot length of GHC is significant shorter (if at all) than the pivot length of GHS.
      The sound of P-225 is the best of all these three digital pianos (when using headphones). The implementation of P-225 Digital Audio Interface is 24 bit.
      GHC is a much quieter action than GHS and definitely PHA-4.
      There is not much difference between the feel of GHC than the feel of GHS.
      I got P-225 again (I already bought it in October 2023)
      Michael

    • @jgmedium
      @jgmedium 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like that it’s more compact and lighter which would be perfect for me as a practice digital piano. Great comparison! 👍🏼

    • @pianowhizz
      @pianowhizz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends - the 125a is inferior due to the missing USB Audio. Without the USB Audio, the Kawai ES120 becomes the better value option.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mfurmanhow's the P225's speaker performance compares to the P125?🎹🎶

  • @thiagoborges892
    @thiagoborges892 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two downgrades in a row on this line... what are you doing, yamaha?!?

    • @MerriamPianos
      @MerriamPianos  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not everyone will be a fan of some model updates of course. It is a very subjective matter at the end of the day.

    • @georgefromgreece4119
      @georgefromgreece4119 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree totally.

    • @thiagoborges892
      @thiagoborges892 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MerriamPianos well, the interface was taken out and the white keys are harder to play between the black ones!! What is subjective on those?! People might adapt, or substitute the interface, but those are objective downgrades!!! That doesn't change the fact that you're an excellent gear reviewer!!! My comment derived from your information!!