What changed in the design of the plows that almost doubled the HP requirement per bottom? Was it the depth they operated at or the speed they were designed to work best? I’ve watched a bunch of old plowing videos and I’m amazed how big of a plow many 50-60 hp tractors were pulling and the speed they were going? I remember plowing with a Case 930 and a 4-14 Case pull type ,plow. In our soil going about 5 mph that was plenty load for that tractor.
Quite a collection of A/C plows. More informative than the "Swinford" book. Interesting to see the hitching arrangement before the snap-coupler era. I use my father's #83. We also had a Knverland, but I didn't like it, sold it, prefer the AC.
I have one that looks very similar to the number 2 but has no clutch. it has a hydraulic cylinder and it looks factory. any ideas what that might be. can post a video if it. want to restore it to usable condition and would like to know what model i have. cannot find any markings other that allis chalmers in the I beams.
grate video .i have a 4 bottom 50 series .is it factory? or did some one just bolt a 4th bottom to a 3 bottom. i have not tried to plow with it .thanks for any information
There was an attachment from Allis that would throw the hand clutch forward when the plow hit an obstacle. Without that attachment the hand clutch should remain engaged. I have one on the WD45 I pull a 4-14 mounted plow with. If you are plowing in third gear and that clutch kicks out you will have a bruise on you chest from the steering wheel hub. lol
Dennis if you have duplicate snap coupler equipment. Or if where snap coupler equipment is close enough to Louisville ,Kentucky to make it worthwhile to go look at. Leave me a way to contact you for arrangements or information. I’m about an hour east south east of what I call Louisville before they made all of Jefferson county Louisville. I would appreciate it beyond words. Even duplicate parts and operating manuals on equipment I have. Thank you ever so much. And keep cranking out that Persian Orange videos. Thanks, Keith Martin
We can pull a 5-14 with our D-17 gas in Sod all day long, but we have some pretty good soil. The CA pulls the 2-14 and 3-14, WD pulls the 3-14 and the WD-45 pulls the 4-14.
Yes, it’s a shock absorber of sorts to help protect the plow. Also one could add the hand clutch throw out. That would disengage the hand clutch if the plow hit a big rock or stump. The only down side was that the tractor would stop on a dime and the operator would be launched forward in to the steering wheel which was not go for the chest!
@@The1952caallis I recently bought a WD Allis Chalmers, it has a wide front end and overall is in very good condition, I hope to restore it this winter 🚜
Our 190 was our last snap coupler tractor, and we pulled a 4 bottom semi-mounted plow that looks like the 9000, so that must have been another option for it.
You are correct. I took another look at the parts book and it does list the snap coupler hitch. Not sure how I missed it, but thanks for pointing that out.
Allis also made an adapter that would convert a three point hitch piece of equipment to a snap coupler. It was bolt on and allowed the use of the traction booster system.
@@tedbuisker6827 I've seen lots of third party 3-point sdapters for snap-coupler tractors, but I didn't know Allis had one. Our Allis implements from the 60ss were clearly built with a bar or plate near the front, to attach either snap coupler or 3-point connectors.
@@tractorsold1 I have two of the adapters, both painted AC persian two. At one time they sold for around $500 around here. The ones I have bolt together capturing the three point pins on the implement. They work very well.
Very informative video with a lot of useful data. Especially liked the inclusion of the disc plow. Thank you for making this video
Can you do a video on identifying the different plow bottom series
What changed in the design of the plows that almost doubled the HP requirement per bottom? Was it the depth they operated at or the speed they were designed to work best? I’ve watched a bunch of old plowing videos and I’m amazed how big of a plow many 50-60 hp tractors were pulling and the speed they were going? I remember plowing with a Case 930 and a 4-14 Case pull type ,plow. In our soil going about 5 mph that was plenty load for that tractor.
The hp requirement doubled do to both increased depth and speed with the biggest variable being the speed.
Very interesting and informative! I recently bought a 3000 on land at an auction. Looking forward to plowing with it soon.
I have what I think is a ac two bottom 3 point plow. Not mentioned on this video.
very informative video i have ? i bout a front mount cultiver for my ac wd do you have any information or where i can get some on it thanks
Quite a collection of A/C plows. More informative than the "Swinford" book. Interesting to see the hitching arrangement before the snap-coupler era. I use my father's #83. We also had a Knverland, but I didn't like it, sold it, prefer the AC.
I have one that looks very similar to the number 2 but has no clutch. it has a hydraulic cylinder and it looks factory. any ideas what that might be. can post a video if it. want to restore it to usable condition and would like to know what model i have. cannot find any markings other that allis chalmers in the I beams.
Allis did offer that plow with hydraulic lift as an option.
grate video .i have a 4 bottom 50 series .is it factory? or did some one just bolt a 4th bottom to a 3 bottom. i have not tried to plow with it .thanks for any information
The only 50 series plow with 4 bottoms was the two-way #54. I you're right about someone adding a 4th bottom to a 3 bottom plow.
Good day Very nice & informative. The draw back up here was the price of plow share. Also the hand clutch would jump ahead I think? Thanks
There was an attachment from Allis that would throw the hand clutch forward when the plow hit an obstacle. Without that attachment the hand clutch should remain engaged. I have one on the WD45 I pull a 4-14 mounted plow with. If you are plowing in third gear and that clutch kicks out you will have a bruise on you chest from the steering wheel hub. lol
@@tedbuisker6827 G day I now remember the neighbor saying he had one on. Yea I bet that throw you especially in 3rd gear. Thanks
Dennis if you have duplicate snap coupler equipment. Or if where snap coupler equipment is close enough to Louisville ,Kentucky to make it worthwhile to go look at. Leave me a way to contact you for arrangements or information. I’m about an hour east south east of what I call Louisville before they made all of Jefferson county Louisville. I would appreciate it beyond words. Even duplicate parts and operating manuals on equipment I have. Thank you ever so much. And keep cranking out that Persian Orange videos. Thanks, Keith Martin
Great video, thank you.
good video
Thankyou so much for sharing this video 🚜 very useful information
Thank you for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
@@The1952caallis I grew up pulling a 3 bottom 16 inch plow with a D-17 diesel,
We can pull a 5-14 with our D-17 gas in Sod all day long, but we have some pretty good soil. The CA pulls the 2-14 and 3-14, WD pulls the 3-14 and the WD-45 pulls the 4-14.
I was wondering what that spring was I kind of thought it was to absorb shock my WD has that underneath it
Yes, it’s a shock absorber of sorts to help protect the plow. Also one could add the hand clutch throw out. That would disengage the hand clutch if the plow hit a big rock or stump. The only down side was that the tractor would stop on a dime and the operator would be launched forward in to the steering wheel which was not go for the chest!
@@The1952caallis thank you very much for sharing 🚜 God bless y'all and stay safe buddy
@@The1952caallis I recently bought a WD Allis Chalmers, it has a wide front end and overall is in very good condition, I hope to restore it this winter 🚜
That would be awesome! Hope you can get it done.
Our 190 was our last snap coupler tractor, and we pulled a 4 bottom semi-mounted plow that looks like the 9000, so that must have been another option for it.
You are correct. I took another look at the parts book and it does list the snap coupler hitch. Not sure how I missed it, but thanks for pointing that out.
Allis also made an adapter that would convert a three point hitch piece of equipment to a snap coupler. It was bolt on and allowed the use of the traction booster system.
@@tedbuisker6827 I've seen lots of third party 3-point sdapters for snap-coupler tractors, but I didn't know Allis had one. Our Allis implements from the 60ss were clearly built with a bar or plate near the front, to attach either snap coupler or 3-point connectors.
@@tractorsold1 I have two of the adapters, both painted AC persian two. At one time they sold for around $500 around here. The ones I have bolt together capturing the three point pins on the implement. They work very well.
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