The TRUTH About Ancient European WOMEN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2024
- Many negative ideas about woman in the ancient past are put forward by various people purporting to follow a "Bronze Age" mentality. Yet what was the actual place of women in the Bronze Age? Were women actually as powerless in the past as some people imagine?
Contents
00:00 - Intro
01:36 - Gimbutas and the Neolithic Farmers
03:29 - Indo-European Female burials
05:12 - Women rule
06:15 - Heaven and Earth
09:32 - Family Structure
11:30 - Zeus saved by a woman
12:35 - Women bound the tribes
14:24 - Abduction myth & punishment
15:10 - Rights in marriage and divorce
17:40 - Women of War
25:48 - Women of Work
33:55 - Ancient Views of Women
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European females whether blonde, brunette or redhead or whether Celt, Teuton, Latin or Slav include so many beautiful, wonderful women, right up to our own time.
The very concept of beauty is a White concept.
Women are worth far more than just their beauty. They are human beings.
No they aren't lol. All women are the same.
Fewer in ratio nowadays, mostly because of the great volume of sabotaging ideologies. But indeed that's very true.
TBH other women often look like masculine in comparison. Definitely not always and some groups more than others. Women resent other women that are better looking so it creates a lot of jealously in diverse settings.
people think that 1950s America is what all of history looked like. it's insanity.
Or the Victorian Age.
It's stupidity also.
more insane is people read a few myths and generalise on whole ancient world 😅
It's presented that way on purpose. It's propaganda.
People think that 1950s America was like it's portrayed in modern culture.
Excellent video. Difference does not denote inferiority. It is a pity that some do not realize this.
Well said!
The problem is not with differences, it's when those differences are treated as inferior.
Well said
@@Rune_Scholar differences actually mean inferiority in many cases
@@pindanetel And here we have exmple one of how differences are used to treat others as inferior. Please go ahead. Tell me some differences between the sexes that equate to one sex being inferior to the other and therefor worthy of being treated as lesser. Go ahead.
The reason why women could be warriors is because the Indo-European homeland on the Steppes was suited to Horse Archery with Compound Bows that enabled women to have the ability to kill and escape without engaging with men in hand to hand combat.
Makes sense. If your tribe is under the threat of extinction, then it's best that all able hands are called on deck. An arrow can pierce a heart just like a spear.
I'm an Iraqi Mesopotamian Arab from an entirely different kind of a world and culture, however I've had the pleasure of traveling and I lived in Russia for 8 months of study.
There I've seen different people and experienced the treatment of European Women, and I must say 90% of them were positive.
From the first contact in airport, to the kind teachers who treated with respect and care, other encounters were very strange for my country standards, for example I was once lazy and took an elevator for one level and the Russian women said to me you're so young why are you even here? And she took to the highest floor and told get some sport.
Other were more of a warm experience when I walked out of a bus in the winter and my hood was down, a woman approached me and covered my head and told you're not used to our Russian Winters, take care and warm yourself.
I must say I returned home and I miss this social interaction because in my home these may be considered vulgar or impolite because of the difference yet they were gentle acts.
Yes we can all be enlightened by experiencing a foriegn culture first hand without the 'stained' view we get when viewed from our own cultural views. We are after all just one big family.
Be blessed. ❤
Our shared Pagan past reveals a deeper kindness to all. I miss a friend who has your name. His family was forced to leave the U.S. in 1980, age 11. I fear he might have died in the Iran-Iraq war a few years later. He was a sweet friend, who taught me to count to 10 in Persian. I didn't care about his religion and my family's being different. I care about him. Take the blessings I offer, and Be Well. Strong women make a strong culture. Weak men break their women, and harm us all.
Travelling and meeting other culture Berich us. Its in these meeting we learn and evolution happens . Its the reason humans has evolved
Ur lucky to interact with good women lol. Don't interact with western women lol they r a nightmare
Something that is not well known is that biologically women are about half as likely as men to be colour blind and about twice as likely as men to have tetrachromatism, meaning that they can see literally thousands of colours that most people cannot. I think this may be one reason that so many women have excelled historically at visual-based arts and crafts.
I not necessarily agree with you but anyway keep yourself in a good mood and make only progress.
I think you're taking it in the wrong way... a "colour blind" man can spot something that for normal people would be canouflaged, while tetrachromy is not helpful due to her election of colours would be alien to normal people.
Women excel on red shades identification or else, risking to poison their families with a wrong fruit picking.
I mean I’m a neurodivergent artist female (non-binary but still) and a feminist, so not exactly representing the majority here, but I highly suspect I have Tetrachromacy (it’s incredibly difficult to find testing and apparently the tests I’ve taken online aren’t very accurate) but also I get damn near high on beauty and color. And while I do want to learn to be a badass sword fighter and literally have the opportunity to do so, I literally have to decide on a weekly basis “learn to sword fight this week or do medical painting or work on making good looking clothing” and it’s a *really* tough choice every time, but the art usually wins. I’m more interested in learning how to make a beautiful sword than fight with one. Just barely but still. I think it’s funny.
Yes, men in general have quite a few deficiencies.
This is why this channel is so worthy of 10 million subscribers.
It's common on this channel that the video is not only well researched and edited, but it will also be about a subject that is uncommon and either completely overlooked or just touched on briefly by most others.
The above is stated much more simply by my childhood favorite Monty Python and I quote;
"And now for something completely different"
Made up it's debunked it's going to be debunked every thing always was even about WW2 it was mostly debunked of gmans starting every thing Russians did genocide on Germans so revenge came
Love Monty Python
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The most feared woman, should always be the protective mother.
I’ve been saying these things to people for years!!! I studied archaeology and I did archaeology in Europe, so I can say from my experience these things are very true. It’s kind of infuriating that most of my discussions with people involve them refusing to accept women were EVER in power. I’ve told them that at many times, throughout history, women have very clearly been in actually power over all society. Matriarchy was NOT unusual in prehistory, and even for much of history, matriarchy was legitimately the rule in many parts of the planet. It was FAR from being male-dominated. Anyone who doesn’t believe this, just doesn’t know history. Sadly knowledge of history is more and more lacking in most people I know these days.
I dont know why it is that hard to belive that there were warrior women, when we have warrior women today. There are Ukranian women currently fighting against invading Russians. There are warrior kurdish women in iran. There were Hungarian women who fought against the ruskis. We are not that different than ancient humans, it wold be silly to belive that women just evloved the need and courage to protect whats theirs a hundred years ago.
Vast majority of the war footage of those wars were men fighting men. When women do fight, both historically, and today, it's an exception to the rule.
Are you fighting any wars? And I mean other than online flame wars with polemics against White men.
@@CuFhoirthe88 no cause my country isnt being attacked. But guess what, Hungarian women fought against the ruskis too. My great grandmother was a doctor and a volunteer medic during ww2. Slavic women do fight. Maybe its just the women from where you from that dont.
@@Sofia-kr9fb Again there are the exepction to the rulle. Most women will never be fighters like men are. Women get scared and are affected by warfare much more, and i don't mean it as something bad but it's just the truth. It thinks its alot better that men fight wars and women care for the children and the injured at home. Ofcourse there can be the odd ones out who do join the men in war but it will never be and should never be an equal amount to men because that means that we as men have failed.
@@latviankhan2989 "Strong women means men have failed." 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@CuFhoirthe88 awwww, is the pale man threatened by a comment?
Seems to have hit a tender nerve.😂
Maybe you could explore why that is.
This is respectful, comprehensive and insightful work and as a woman I am grateful for your point of view. We are on the cusp of a new historical refection of everything. God Bless.
My friend this is BBC grade documentary. The amount of work you put into this is tremendous. Also it is so informative, and puts so much perspective regarding the rich complexity of history when compared to the daft trends we can witness nowadays
Comparing it to bbc is an insult.
Hearing such a grounded and nuanced analysis is such a breath of fresh air in a world where information is specially curated to fit one narrative or the other. Excellent work Lugh!
Despite being a sandwich, you seem well learned!
No kidding!!
@@FaeMagic 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you. I think men too often choose to forget the value of women. So much goes into supporting a working husband, keeping house and raising children. Plus, for so many today, hold employment outside the home. Yet, what I hear is a lot of complaints about women as if our roles and responsibilities are not important.
behind every great man...
No we don't. Women have forgotten their roles in modern society. Just look at feminism
@@KD400_ So our role is to spend our lives devalued, abused, our work no recognized, etc? Feminism can be pushed too far, but certainly the efforts of the feminist movement has shed the light on those things. From not even being considered a person to have some rights, is good for all society.
@@JudyBarrette agree, and just as all men are not hunters, not all women need to be domestic masters. There are many talents both sexes can bring to the world. The trouble are the systems that form from big Capital centralized powers, ever since we left small tribes and now the technology that allows further development of systems of centralized control
I think the problem these days is women forgetting the value of men.
As appealing as this is, there’s a time and place limitation to what you say. As France entered the high Middle Ages, for instance, aristocratic incentives had women traded as brides with very little concern for their wishes. The insistence of the Church upon consent in marriage served to undermine secular activities. Whatever political wishes clerics may have had, they were at least doctrinally consistent on that point.
Whatever positive or powerful roles may have been played by women in Greco-Roman myth, the standardized treatment of women in that society was rather unpleasant. The Christianizing of Rome largely put an end to the forced marriage of prepubescent girls and the exposure of female infants, which was extremely common. The Romanizing of Christianity in turn likely led to many parts of the attitude the clerics took towards some customs by the time they got to Northern Europe. Celtic Christianity was, well, Celticized rather than Romanized and had many differences from Catholicism, not least in the roles taken by women. Even its eventual absorption by the Catholic Church did not immediately change the practices that prevailed in Ireland and some other places.
And in later times, Catholic diocese in many places are going bankrupt from sexual assault and indigenous murder lawsuits. I wouldn’t personally paint the Church as the savior.
Celtic Christianity still exists. Here in the Northeast of the U.S. there is at least one Orthodox Celtic Christian church. There may be many solitary practitioners.
I just came from your video about Welsh history and mythology. As a Welshman, I loved it.
The thing that I find quite fascinating is my nan, whose surname is of Anglo-Saxon origin. My grandfather of Irish Gaelic origin, yet I am born in Wales, and have long considered myself Welsh.
My nan was a hard woman, I lived with her for a time, and my grandfather a hard man, whom I spent a lot of time with. They taught me a lot, my Nan would teach me chess and if I ever misbehaved she’d call me “a little shit” and would close my pinky finger and squeeze it. My grandfather taught me to play rugby. They were great people and I hold it to them for making me the man I am today. Strong beliefs and to forge myself into the best I can possibly be and never letting misfortunes hold me back.
I doubt people care about personal stories, but it’s nice to remember those who had a big influence on my life. Rest well.
Thank you for sharing that . I know just how you feel , I am old British mix . I think It is good to honour them and shows a very proper respect and gratitude .
People care! Thanks for sharing.
It's a lovely story. Thank you.
sounds like a great woman, your nan
love the "you little shit"❤
hey just her calling it as it is
We need more personal stories. Maybe then, the immature adults who are coddled into thinking they have problems, when they don't, will get some insight. I once knew a woman who thought it was doomsday when she broke a nail, got a flat tire, a bad haircut, etc. Until one day she suffered true hardship. Funny, but she never complained about insignificant things anymore.
Unfortunately the title of this video is bound to draw unwanted visitors to this channel. Hopefully they will listen to the content, and interact with each other civilly. Thanks for another thought provoking upload.
This is a big reason I decided to make this video. That and I wanted to honour women on International Womens Day, but I wasn't able to release it on time.
@@FortressofLugh Moran taing! the video is very well done as are all of your videos. the videos have filled in blanks that I didn't have from one side of the house of my ancestors.
@@FortressofLugh what a simp
I'm very cautiously exploring this comments section. I know exactly what you mean.
Yeah fascists and white supremacists are unwanted scum. It’s unfortunate they are so prevalent in pagan spaces.
My wife controls the money in our family, I make it, and she spends it well. I go off to work, and she raises our children, pays our bills, and makes sure that our home is filled with the things we need as a family... I am good at making money, and she is good at making the best of it for caring for our children and myself. She is a better wife than I have ever been a husband...
Just cause you dont pull your weight doesnt mean all men are lazy bastards. I know plenty of single fathers...
@@pacochawa2746 My father was a fantastic single dad in the 70's and 80's when it was almost unheard of, but he still taught me that a traditional family was the best way to go, so my wife and I chose that. She is a stay at home mom, and has been even before we had our children. She takes care of the home, and I provide for the home, we both have our parts to play, neither of us is "not pulling our weight."
I doubt your the first family in history to do things this way
@@kellysouter4381 Ya I know right, it's called a traditional family for a reason.
@@johngaltman
You’re a good husband 😊
One task especially North European women was responsible for was food rationing during the harsh winter months. The sign of this was the key (to the outhouse were the food was stored). Mismanagement could lead to severe starvation, strife and dissolution of the entire settlement.
Such an honest and balanced perspective and so much to learn and revisit! So many questions I have had about history and mythology for decades were addressed or answered in this one video. Much like all of your videos, absolutely astounding!
Gimbutas' theory regarding the existence of a European-wide, peaceful, Goddess-centered religion has been mostly proven false, as I understand it. And this has been done mostly by women archaeologists and historians. The only culture of that type that has been found was in ancient Sweden, and it was FAR from peaceful. Numerous ring forts throughout the country, and well over 200 sacrificial victims, too. At least half of these were of young girls of about 14 years of age. The use of ring forts was widespread throughout Europe. If things were so peaceful, why would they be needed?
And one guy said in video there were no women warriors in Sweden like Germany and Holland till 1930s hire non feminist women in army to keep feminist out yes non feminist would do that if pissed off of feminist and corrupt fake jooes that sudated Germans males and non feminist by all three Russia joose and feminist
I agree those were Gimbutas hippy exagerations, ancient Europe was a violent place proven by the large number of mass burials and murders ie Otzi
What can I say, im a woman appreciator
I hate modern women. Not worth fighting for unlike ancient women.
However, modern men nowadays aren't much better.
❤❤❤
I appreciate the mature and unbiased accuracy of your channel.
About monogamy, in cave sites that were occupied over a hundred thousand years in southern Africa and built of layers of occupation, archaeologists have been able to determine gender groupings and that most common was not straight one man/one woman combinations. But when there were such groupings they tended to last longer, be more stable. Conclusion: most people aren't monogamous but it is a more stable structure. Larger organized groups, kingdoms, religions would recognize this and promulgate (or legislate) monogamy for that reason. And it's a more likely way or keeping to the teachings, beliefs and traditions of a particular group as well as share and spread a common language. Monogamy helps build a dynasty.
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Great video. Just one thing Queen Medb of Connacht is pronounced "May-ve" the db can be confusing for non Irish speakers. The modern spelling is Méabh often anglicised as Maeve
Cheers, I’m always curious about Gaelic and welsh pronunciation. There’s certain phonetics that just don’t exist in English.
@@gildedpeahen876 The pronunciation of different words in Irish or Gealic will change depending on the dialect, Ulster, Connacht, Munster etc. Common names here like Siobhan or Niamh can be difficult for non Irish
It was actually pronounced Med-v, I know it sounds shocking because in modern Ireland its pronunciation changed but that's the way it was said back then. ) I was surprised to hear it myself from my Celtic Civ professor but it also makes perfect sense to me , knowing the etymology
@@kathrinat9824 That's quite interesting. Thank you
@@kathrinat9824 What about other names with db like Sadhbh?
The development of a matriarchal society is more suitable for forest peoples of north such as the Ugrians than for the steppe peoples of the plains, i.e. the Indo-Europeans. The main reason is the difference in the social structure where the hunters were away in the wilderness for long periods of time (in other words, were not present in the life of the community) and left the responsibility of the community, tribe, culture, spirituality and village to women alone. And when they came back they did the physical work, which is why the men played a servant and handyman role in the community outside of hunting seasons. This raised women to an important position and they had power over men in social and religious life as well as in the village and home.
it's usually mixed and we simply stupidly generalise
men domain was outside house, women domain was in house
that's how you see it in Philippines now
men don't even stay inside house because it's downgrading their authority and makes it look as being as a woman
and who was protecting women when they were hunting?
Slavs were forest people
and they burned the forest to farm land
and they said there were different customs in different tribes some considered completely wild others more civilized probably because of being in closer ties with greeks and other folks around them
but you are right these things do shape customs but no Slavs were matriarchal despite living typically in forests
This is always interesting to me that some people believe that women didn’t do physical labor. Foraging for food and perhaps killing it is hard labor. Working in gardens or in the fields growing food is hard labor. Throughout history, women have traditionally been the ones who carried water for their villages - hard labor. Birthing 2-10 children - hard labor. Cooking, cleaning, washing clothes on a rock, hard labor.
Pretty sure they debunked the male hunter/female gatherer schema for prehistoric humans?
@@slytherinvampirebrony3647 Baltic Finns were farmers, although game hunting continued along with farming and livestock keeping. However, it is about a time around 4,000-2,500 years ago, which was relatively recently.
Read Germania and the Eddas. They were never matriarchal at any point.
Who, of any sense, said women were "hated" or unable to at times hold power or influence in antiquity.
I appreciate the perspective here but let's get real, a womans ability to own her destiny was limited at best.
Everybody's ability to own their own destiny was limited at best. It's called survival. Guys had no more choice in their roles than women did. Why is it women are blind to this? Propaganda? Its been incredibly childish.
The more society is one where survival is the most important issue, the more traditional gender roles are important. This talk about owning your destiny is a byproduct of the progress we made, as to not have to focus on pure survival anymore. That's just the truth of the human condition. Still today it's mostly man who go to war and when large scale catastophies happen it's men who deal with it, because it's in mans nature. I think a society were man creates and builds the world, and women enjoys the fruits of mans labour while raising kids is a far much better world. Women shouldn't be the ones doing manual back breaking labour, it should be men doing it for them.
@@latviankhan2989 amen sister.
@@latviankhan2989 Thanks for sharing your perspective! I'm aware of the Maslows Hierarchy of Needs theory, so I agree to some extent. Gender isn't a factor in that but I see where your coming from in regards to once needs are met there is more flexibility for self and society. I feel like you contradict yourself though when you talk about progress influencing destiny. With progress comes options, flexibility, as you say. Well that should probably include a woman's ability to choose her role in society. Not all women have this innate desire to be mother's. What then? It seems progress would allow for more variance.
I appreciate the importance of Masculine and Feminine energy constructs but don't think biological gender has as much to do with it. You paint an idealistic picture of men stepping up to provide safety and structure, this is often far from the case. And while you seem to have a respect for both roles that rigid ideology usually leads to a power differential where the woman gets the shirt end of the stick, their part is not seen as necessary and powerful in us own right.
A lovely discussion my friend. Something we can benefit from in our beautiful human community. 🙂
@@deborahdean8867 I'm far more informed on what Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs are and the Social Science principles behind it than you might think my friend. Be well.
That was such an interesting and inspirational video. I really appreciate all your hard work and research and especially the deep respect you show for both men and women during your talk. Thank you for such an fabulous subject. :)
Fantastic video as always.
This is one of my most cherished topics, and you have brought more wisdom to the subject than is generally heard. Bravo.
i have downloaded it and will share it around. the good that you do in this film will live long after us...
we've definiely fallen to a low point with regard to family relationships
By design. Corporate design. 🤬
@@foodconnoisseur9321 As I said. Corporate design. How is that being fooled?
Hey Andrew tate said the truth about the west and people started bombarding him with hate
@@KD400_ Andrew Tare held women hostage against their will and made them prostitute and do porn while he collected the money. Not a shining example of wholesomeness
@@foodconnoisseur9321 Ah yes, the solution to the problem moderates created by doing nothing while the corpo-state brainwashed them is punishing the people that want to make a change
Classic fence sitter
Thanks for sharing the video with us
I love your channel. Discovered it a few weeks ago..Top notch.👍
Appreciate the work you put into this video.
Love your work. You're leading the league in home runs.
So well done, as always! 👏🏻
And just what our society needs to hear, and remember. ❤ polarity is a good thing.
Thank you for your exquisite presentation, my good sir! 🥳🤩
I've been wondering about that. Is there any evidence?
@@neilreynolds3858 evidence for what? 🧐
@@narcissusnarcosis614 Hell if I know. Sometimes comments end up in places where they don't belong.
Exactly we shouldn't strive to be the same. A women with her Strengths and weakneses and a man with his is the perfect union. They work together in such a magnificent way, i don't want us to ever be "equal" or what some people think equal means. We already are equal, we just are different.
This was so fascinating and well put together.
Such well researched video again! Couldn’t agree more: nothing says more about cultures then their art, especially the stories they write and choose to mutually remember. Loved it and learned a lot too.
Great vids and narration!
I love you, you have such a way with words and I really enjoy listening and watching your videos.
Oddly I was thinking about this, this morning and then you drop this, thanks!
How excellent to receive your new work thank you Kevin 😎🌹😊
You're probably my favorite channel
I took this anthropology class once, and we covered the exceptions to the rule of pair bonded marriages, obviously it is the global norm, but it appears that groups that live in harsher conditions where mortality rates are naturally higher (typically because of local climate) engage more often in polygamy as a norm. This needle can tip both ways, pre-christian Inuit, for example might be married to two or more brothers. It should come as no surprise that men that far north frequently died on the hunt. Some areas where food is more scarce, like various desert dweller groups before any modernization, a man might more frequently have more wives... I imagine this might be due to less resources, it would be preferred that only some men have families, probably at the expense of having less adult men to feed, or less children in the tribe in total. However, the most interesting to me is the Yanamamo of the Amazon basin where they still have a forager lifestyle.... They live in one of the most resource abundant places there is, and they frequently allow a young person to marry an elder first, as a teacher of sexuality and cohabitation, before they go on to have a second marriage with someone close in age.....odd, but interesting.
In desert many men die so it is very sensible for polygamy to exist. Dunno about the way with many husbands to one wife. Maybe if there is too many man ?
some polygamy ( polygyny) could also be due to lots of warfare and fewer men. polygamy in ancient times was a form of public welfare that was taken care of thru marriages.
Awesome video! I leaned so much.
And it all went to hell with mass immigration from outsiders
Can you talk about the changes for women in a pre Christian and post Christian Europe..especially UK? How did the idea of succession and inheritance change before and after Christianity?
How were the rights of a womans kid held? Favor of their husband ?
Really good stuff man your videos mean so much to me
great video. you provide a balanced perspective.
Great Video, much information that I have never heard
Idk, I think yes, women definitely were revered and honored throughout time, for many MANY reasons. But I feel like some of this leans towards elitism or nepotism. If only a handful of women have or may have an opportunity of power, only because they’re related to or have a connection to an important man. That spells elitism or nepotism to me.
The same argument could be made about men, only a handful of men held all the power in most societies throughout history, and as such, they had privileges that most other men could only dream of having, both in their relationships with women and their duties towards their people. So the dynamic becomes more about the haves and the have nots of history which could be both male and female, rather than the black and white men vs women rhetoric that is so misguidedly famous today.
Nepotism always existed. European stock are far less nepotistic than others and therefore lean much more toward a meritocracy.
@@msg5879 No, all men have power over women under patriarchy, which we still sadly live under. We are not talking about capitalism, which oppresses all. But sex based oppression. They are different. Men do not experience sex based oppression.
Apparently, in Aztec mythology, men who died in combat and women who died during childbirth went to the same afterlife.
I have heard somewhere said that childbirth is the battlefield of women, and not so long ago it was completely true.
Such a great video. Your depth of research is amazing but the most impressive thing is your impersonation of the goddess 😄 🤣 it was spot on!
Great video mate
Great stuff, thanks for clarifying modern Abrahamic misconceptions
Excellent video. Thank you.
Very interesting topic. And good to see your face in the vid mate!
I love this 🦋
What a great doco.
This was beautifully written ❤
Very minutious research for every video posted. I would apreciate one about Romania And its historic origin, genetic heritage, language influence. Congratulations !
I really enjoyed this, thank you.
Love your stuff!❤ Love it!!Your research, your POV, and mostly your presentation!!❤😊 One of few all 'round "besties" on TH-cam. Thanks❤😅
It was extremely fascinating
Another woman in history overlooked, is Queen Rosemund Daughter of The Last Gepid King Cunimund. When Cunimund was defeated and his kingdom taken by a joint force of Avars, and Lombards under King Alboin, who would lead his people into Italy for fear of his once Allie’s ambitions. As the Avars had promised to aid the Lombards but sat back and let the Gepids bleed the monstrous forces. Cunimund was beheaded by The Lombards and his daughter Rosemund was taken by force as a wife to Alboin. A year after the Gepids defeat in 567, the Lombards moved West South-West into Italy. On the 1 year anniversary of the Gepids defeat however, the warriors presented a drinking cup made from the skull of King Cunimund to King Alboin at the feast. Who in his cruel and drunken state forced Rosemund to drink from her fathers skull. She vowed her revenge, and waited for her chance. She either seduced the foster brother of the king or he fell for her, either way Helmgis, and Rosemund plotted to steal the throne, with the aid of the Prefect Longinus of Ravenna, the Roman Capitol of Italy at the time. She then recruited the kings chambermaid Peredo, to set up King Alboin by leaving the door to his hall open, and removing the kings sword from its place. He then poisoned his food and Either he or Helmgis finished Alboin. Soon after Rosemund and Helmgis were forced to flee to Ravenna with a portion of the Lombard army, presumably that portion loyal to The Kings foster brother and shield bearer Helmgis, and the royal treasury. Some tales have them being caught and killed by the pursuing Lombards, others have them escaping to Ravenna, with Albion’s daughter Albsuinda in tow. And eventually falling out and killing each other in the city. Where Longinus sent the treasury and Albsuinda on to Constantinople by ship. Either end of the story, allows for Rosemund to have gotten her revenge. By corrupting, or giving an excuse to an already corrupted brother, Turing him against his king, splitting the army, stealing the treasury and or possibly ending the long and famous line of The Lombard Migration Era Kings. With power being split between 30 sewerage Dukes after Albion’s death. Moral is, don’t mess with woman’s family and expect no retribution.
Hell hath no fury like a women scorned believe that's attributed to Benjamin Franklin
Very good episode. Thank you
Amazing documentary!
Nice video Kevin. 👌🏼
Thank you for this.
Finally! A measured perspective. Great work!
Enjoyed the video 😊
Great video 🙂
Greetings from Södermanland
Fascinating video - thank you for all the hard work that went into this. Can you recommend any further reading/sources?
Glad to have found your channel
Great video!!!
Awesome video love that women are getting their stories told properly.
Excellent! Really interesting 👌
I love listening to you, you have a great voice!
Women have always done amazing things, but their herstory wickedly erased.
Modern women just destroy families and have bastards.
Erased, ignored, distracted, stole or made to seem out of date or too radical... Basically, anything but just accepted. As a guy I think that that is probably the last thing we want for our mother, sisters daughters.... But...
That's how life is.
Don't play with the language.
The word "history" has nothing to do with the possessive adjective "his".
It did not develop from an Old English word, but Latin, a language in which there is no "his"
Similarly, heretic and herpes don't come from "her".😂
Also, men usually start those wars
I appreciate how nuanced your presentation is, you covered so many topics with depth. I'm glad you included more than a passing mention of the textile arts as it is still underrecognized in in the arts and is yes indeed a set of technical skills. There is so much we'll never know about the peoples of prehistory and this was an interesting glimpse into the past.
Thank you for a very informative video. A lot of the stuff I had already known about, but you present some of it in a way I haven't thought about before. [EDIT] After getting to the end of the video, I see it as a kind of love-letter to women of the past and their creative, labour, spiritual, mental and physical input into the societies they were born into. It's really nice to see.
In some cultures, women were terribly oppressed.
Women could be burnt alive for thievery in anglo saxon times. Men faced lesser punishment.
Normans treated women like dirt
I've never heard of anyone being burned alive for thievery my friend. Provide an example. Thievery has always been a hand cutting thing. Incidentally, when it comes to crime, women USED TO have more privilege than men by far. In our country in our courts, women were given as much leniency as was possible. Women used to rarely get the death penalty, men, no problem. In snfko saxon times, women could divorce a man for having bad breath. And take a look at how the average man was treated. The poor are never treated great except for today. And even then, if you want to get into the power structure , you better have money and a gimmick.
In ALL cultures, and still today.
The idea that a female warrior archetype in mythology is a reflection of a real life phenomenon is quite a big stretch. All human societies are patriarchal so describing some as patriarchal is kinda dumb.
Thank you, I absolutely LOVE this! - subscribed. I forsee this channel becoming one of my go-to references for research material for a "crusade" I'm working on to help reveal the truth about how (and by whom, where, when, and WHY) the Feminine was dishonored and excluded from its rightful place, leading to so much misplaced and misguided enmity, manipulation, and mayhem in the here and now, hopefully to help restore a proper balance for the welfare of ALL!
Nihil Ausus, Nihil Mutatum- Carpè Noctum!
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I was pleased with this video. Indeed, as almost always, Plato was right 😏💐💕
Plato considered women inferior to men.
@@Channel-sp3fp ALMOST always 😉
The shift from an IE family to a nuclear christian family isn't as one-sided as you imply. The right of divorce gave women a counterweight but the christian marriage enforces men's loyalty at a theological/morale level, which highly benefits women in the end. In the end, the West, either indo-european or christian, remains an outlier when it comes to women's conditions.
Great lecture Professor! 🙏
Excellent, well balanced presentation of a time period that we, in the end, can only make educated theories about their way of life.
There’s a reason mythology is allegorical - To show you that the roles we play are timeless, no matter the level of technology and flavor of culture
Verry good
Christianity is the european curse
you can corrupt any system
the course is modern anticulture
killl Christianity but you stay with the same or worse rot fixing nothing
Warrior women is likely what ancient people fantasized about rather than what was actually the norm, just like today.
Loved it.
Very good
Thank you
I see it like that
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What an excellent presentation of a very important topic, especially in this age when society has become so deeply misled and embittered about the honourable roles women had in the past.
I do have to make a point on the subject of shieldmaidens or warrior women. Norse Magic and Beliefs channel here on TH-cam has a number of videos where he discusses women in the ancient Norse culture, and while it definitely did happen that women could fight in battle alongside men, he points out that it was REALLY BAD for a woman to be on the losing side of a battle and become a captive. The opposing army would severely r*pe and abuse warrior women for 'daring' to be equal to men. And yet, she who LARPs as a shieldmaiden chooses not to think about this, projecting the modern idea that anything 'defying the oppressive patriarchy' is always a good choice.
If you can find it, documentary `Behind The Vail ', addresses this subject. It's from the 1980s and came out of Australia. It starts with the story or Brigid of Ireland.
Good video
you missed washer women... washer women were tough and independent, and, along with spinner women, able to support themselves with no requirement of a man. they tended to have more freedom sexually, maritally and were not regarded as good targets for abuse, as washing clothes at the time required immense physical strength and stamina. as such she was fully capable of thrashing most would be assaulters.
Sounds a whole cloth being spun from a single short thread......smh
@@willbass2869 would you like references?
Lol thanks! I’ve always thought that! As a physically fit woman working in physically demanding jobs a lot of my life, I’ve always cherished my strength and stamina. When I saw the Rueben’s cartoons (ink sketches) of female nudes that described the model as a washerwoman, I recognised the body 😂 muscular, not skinny, powerful and owned by someone who valued and liked her body😊 Rueben’s models had more body fat than is fashionable nowadays, but those ladies were fit and strong👍👍
By doing DNA Test with 23&me found out that woman Haplogroup H is predominantly in the Northern Europe. Most of my distant relatives have their mothers of Haplogroup H from H to H13 or higher. My mother is J1c2 enter Europe some 7000 years ago, and my father Haplogroup is I2a2 origin Scotland with Ancestral Home Doggerland. Proudly today Serbian, and of course knowing today about my origin looking over shoulder towards in distance to the land I came from 🇷🇸🏴👍
Are these even accurate I heard they were not.
@andreamessiasgomes7118 If you don't trust one test, then do another one, compare them, and see what they have for you. Yes, they are pretty accurate. I had the same person in both tests and last names as well. Good luck
❤ I love everything you put. This is my favorite not because I'm a woman but because it's the history. I tried to tell people