How To: Honda CRF300L/Rally MotoX Exhaust Installation 4K
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- How To: Honda CRF300L/Rally MotoX Exhaust Installation 4K
This is my video of the removal of the stock exhaust from a Honda CRF300 Rally (It's the same for a 300L once the bodywork is off), and the installation of a MotoX exhaust from TNT in Thailand via Bikerzbits.
I also give a close up look of the components, and I apologise in advance, but yes, I weigh both the stock and MotoX exhaust systems.
This video doesn't cover the bodywork removal or refitting, or the noise testing which will all be done separately, though I do run the bike briefly though the mic doesn't do it justice.
00:00 Introduction
02:29 Close look at the exhaust
03:42 Removal of stock exhaust
08:40 Weight comparison
10:20 MotoX Installation
14:48 Test & Conclusion
I hope this video has been useful, and if it has, please like and subscribe and I'll see you next time.
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Big thanks for your vid’s. I always seem to refer back to your videos every time I change something on my bike. Always extremely clear, much better than instructions! Well done
Thanks. I’m still learning, and still get things wrong. Though I also leave the wrong bits in the videos and try to explain what the right thing to do would have been. I am running out of things to do to my CRF though;, perhaps 4-5 mod videos and then just riding. It has been fun though and I’m delighted that they have been helpful. Ride safe!
Another very helpful vid, I fitted a Yoshi pipe yesterday, very straightforward, the link pipe was a bit fiddly to thread through so I removed the little mudguard to give me some room. Sounds lovely now.
Awesome, I haven’t tried the Yoshi myself, but by all accounts it’s one of the finest choices, though a little louder than the homologated Arrow.
Top Job Andre, nice exhaust 👌👌
Thanks
Great install video man. Thanks for really taking the time to go step-by-step and showing how it is done. This video can basically be used for any of the CRF300L full system exhausts as most of them are the same as far as the install process. I am personally thinking of going with a yoshimura for mine but that is just cause I have nostalgia of having a Yoshimura exhaust on my first bike which was a CBR500 lol. Keep up the videos man this was great quality and well made. Cheers.
Thanks. The Yoshi stuff is great. I ended up switching out the MotoX for an Arrow homologated exhaust with a cat. It’s still on the bike and probably will be from now on.
Nice that it's not too loud, exactly what I'd be after if I get a 300L.. good weight saving too
I'll do a proper noise measurement at the weekend and have a definitive number.
Yes great stuff, I have the 300L and ordered the stainless version and had to pay the import taxes, (approx £50.00), very pleased with the quality of the product. I had to fettle to get a nice fit by cutting 3mm off the header and the link pipe so the complete exhaust was not strained between the cylinder bolts and the muffler bolts. I fitted the oxygen sensor to the header pipe by twisting it around the sensor so not to damage the wires, then tightened it last. I agree the exhaust is no more louder than stock, so along with the weight saving was very pleased and I feel there is more torque .
I tried desperately to find a UK made alternative but it seems the firms I approached were not interested in making for this very popular new model, and the FMF and Yoshi were already too loud and ridiculously expensive, this exhaust fills the gap and is an excellent product.
Nice work, shame about the import tax, but I guess it's still a fraction of the price of others. The Arrow X-Kone might be quieter but at £800, it's an expensive experiment if it isn't!
Top job bud looks and sounds awesome 👍🏻
Thanks.
looks good well fabricated unit, look forward to the sound check outside later!
We’ve had thunderstorms and rain again today, so it might have to wait for next weekend.
Nice, it sounds seems pretty quiet too. Thanks.
Yup, I’ll measure to be sure, but it seems close to stock.
Hi Andre, I've watched a few of your vids & sub'd.
Thanks for the great videos, and a huge thanks for not ruining them with crappy background music while you're talking. I don't know why some people are compelled to add annoying background music throughout the video.
🤣 talking is hard! What you don’t see (other than the skipping video) is that I’m not very good at talking and I have a lot of subconscious bad habits that I don’t know I’m doing until I edit. I start too many sentences with “so”, I say “um” a lot, I pause mid-sentence for too long and I often repeat not one, but sometimes 2-3 words. I try to edit all of these out, but if someone has nothing to say, music is easy!
@@PeakMotorcycles Don't be too self-critical. I've watched a few of your vids and you are very good at bringing the viewer in to the story / activity, and getting your point across.
Basically, if you are relaxed & having a good time, we are right there with you!
Your videos have been a big help. I just installed this same exhaust (without the baffle) a Yamato skid plate and Yamato frame protectors all obtained from Biker Bitz. The sound is perfect in my opinion and the 6+ kilo weight savings is fairly substantial. I may consider a lithium battery as well given the fact that the bike has already been over on its side a few times and will likely be again considering Florida is mostly a giant sand pit. I have a set of Motoz RallZ tires in the garage that may help with the sand traction. Just did my first oil and filter change while I had the panels and skid plate off as well.
Awesome! Sounds like a great setup. Let me know how you get on with the Lithium battery. I’d thought about it, but then decided I’d use the stock one for a while. Perhaps when it needs replacing I’ll get a Lithium Ion battery as a replacement. I’ve heard good things about the Motoz’s so I hope they do what you need to do. Good luck with staying upright!
How do you like the Rallz tires? Are the good all around tires?
thanks for the video, I am considering this exhaust!
I switched to the Arrow Thunder a few months later.
Hey there! Nice Video! Seems like a good quality exhaust. The color is nice as well!
Thanks. Some folks like the colour, others not so keen. As they say, you can please none of the people some of the time! 🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles 🤣
Thanks for the great content!
You’re welcome. Hopefully more to come shortly!
appreciate that review! nice
Thanks for watching!
Nice one! I installed mine last weekend. I found that it was easier to fit the O2 sensor on the new header pipe before mounting it on the bike. No need to curl up the O2 sensor cable that way, as you can rotate the header pipe instead! 👍🏼 It sounds meaty without the db-killer and when you do the db measurements it would be interesting to see how loud it is without db killer too. Thanks!
I tried that first but didn't have enough cable to then get the header onto the engine. Perhaps I should have unclipped the sensor wire first....
Yes I had to do that 👍
Any issues with the tip melting?
@@dualsportadventure My carbon fibre tip has melted! Contacting Bikerzbits for advice. Apart from that the exhaust is performing excellently.
@@dualsportadventure same. My end cap melted too. (Photo of it in the Community page from a few weeks ago). I contacted the manufacturer, TNT, and they said it shouldn’t be used for long distances. I asked if 200 miles in 5 days was a long distance and they didn’t reply.
Thank you for work 👍👍👍
You are very welcome.
Great stuff, finding your content invaluable having had my Rally for 3 weeks. H2C rack and tail tidy so far, waiting on the Zeta hand guards but certainly interested in the Moto X too for weight saving. Are you considering crash bars are any other protection for the bike?
I’d like to get some crash bars that come up high, much like the ones that are available for the 250 Rally, but no one is making any yet. I’ve seen the low bars, but I’m not sure they offer that much more protection than my alloy bash guard so haven’t taken the plunge yet. I’m sure I’ll get some eventually.
Sounds good I ordered my Yoshi last week got it in about 3 business days amazing still don't have the bike though but I've got the full exhaust plus the spark arrestor waiting to put on it if it ever comes LOL
I’m certain that the Yoshi is a finer piece of engineering than the MotoX. May your bike arrive soon so you can put it to good use!
Nice work.
Watching you do this gives me the confidence to do it myself.
I will probably investigate other exhausts closer to home, but, I could easily see putting this same one on my Rally.
Again, that 3, or 3.5 kilo weight savings is a lot, especially that high up on the bike.
Looks like the heat shield did not fit over the new moto X.
Happy Trails
As things go, it was pretty easy. The heat shield didn’t fit. Way too many fittings. I have an Enduristan Inferno heat shield which I put on instead and my panniers have survived 300 miles of riding without melting so I guess it’s working!
@@PeakMotorcycles Thanks for the tip on the Enduristan Inferno.
Looks Good
I’m still not sure about the blue, but it is lighter than the alloy one, and perhaps it’ll dull over time…
Giving the Thailand FMF kit a go. Snagged one for $250. Figured it was worth a try. Same fake pipe as Moto X.
😁. I’d be interested to know how you get on. 👍
Thanks alot for showing but this is way too complicated for a girl like me! Gonna pick up the CRF300L tomorrow and Im very excited 😊
Awesome! New bike days are the best. Have fun and enjoy the ride 😁
What a great video! Looking forward to your sound check!
In the US, we’re supposed to run screen-type spark arrester at OHV parks and some rangers are sticklers for it. I wonder if FMF or other brand arresters will fit on the end?
Hi, they might. Do you have the dimensions for an approved one?
@@PeakMotorcycles there seems to be a ton of “USFS approved” ones available but not all list dimensions. FMF, Yoshimura, and Fisch Moto offer multiple options that seem like they might fit where the removable silencer is. Could you measure the OD of that?
I think I might go ahead and order my motoX 😁
@@PeakMotorcycles I have a US Forrest Service approved spark arrester from FMF that looks like it might replace the db killer. It measures 42mm where it enters the exhaust. I could PM photos.
@@eurekaqi I’ll take the muffler off and measure the pipe if you like.
@@PeakMotorcycles No need to remove the muffler. The approved spark arrestor is in the rear of the muffler. It should replace that removable tip (the db reducer)
I sent two photos through Facebook. mesenger.
Thanks for the vid, it will be super useful for me tomorrow. Do you use some loctite or something for the joints?
I didn’t. (And apologies that I missed tomorrow). For the joints you’d need something that could cope with the high temperatures. I think loctite might just burn off.
Sounds nice and quiet for a slip on.👍
Be interested to see if it alters performance.
I’ve ridden a couple of hundred miles so far and haven’t noticed any change, positive or negative. There are no flat spots in the power range and it rides very similar to stock. I suspect a dyno would be the only way to know for sure.
@@PeakMotorcycles thats good news.
Looking forward to your decibel test 🙂
Greetings,
As always another brilliant detailed video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸
I know has been so long, but I finally got my new crf300 rally.
Do you know if the company sells only the muffler?
Thank you so much for assisting me.
I think there is a new V2 one (which hopefully doesn’t melt the end cap…) have a look on Bikerzbits, I expect they’ll have the latest.
@@PeakMotorcycles as always thank you so much for advising me.
Great video Andre! {as usual} could I ask is there a Cat in the headerpipe bulge?
Thanks.
I don’t know but I doubt it… for the price, I doubt they could build a cat into it.
@@PeakMotorcycles OK thanks.
Great Video. Is a ecu mod needed with this exhaust? Or can I bolt on and go? Thanks
Depends where you are. If you have a UK/EU bike, then there is no ECU mod. For the rest of the world ECU mods are available, but many ride it with the MotoX as it comes. There are two inserts, one in the end and one between the silencer and link pipe. If you remove these, I expect the back pressure is reduced and without more airflow in and an ECU mod, the bike won’t run right.
Love the Channel ! Can you advise if the moto x exhaust has a catalytic converter or is it a "race only" free flowing exhaust if you remove spark arrester and DB killer ?
Race only. I switched to an Arrow ‘Thunder’ exhaust after a few months which is homologated and comes with a cat.
Hello Andre. Thanks for posting all these informative videos. I've ordered a MotoX exhaust for my 300l but am hesitant to install as Northern Monkey just posted a video showing that the "carbon fiber" tip melted. How's your's holding up?
Also melted. Photo in the TH-cam community page on my channel from a few weeks ago. Whenever anyone’s asked, I’ve suggested they get the alloy/stainless silencer, not the titanium. It’s cheaper too!
@@PeakMotorcycles Thank-you!
hi mate, did you replace the headers copper o-ring gasket with a new one when you swapped them over…just saw it at 08:18 ….you can get away with it when they are so new, most of the time
ps. i also believe that your sound test would be very different with the removal of the spark arrestor from the start of the muffler ….more thump
Hi,
I didn’t but as you say, it was new-ish. I now have a new Arrow Thunder titanium system to go on, so will check out the o-ring when I do that.
I’m sure it would give more thump with the spark arrestor removed, but I was aiming to stay quiet but save 3-4kg of weight. We have to share the trails and fun though the thump would be, such things only strengthen the case to get bikes off the trails.
I’ll do a sound test for the Arrow when it’s on, though that will also be baffles in, and had a cat so i’m hoping it’ll be quiet too!
nice work !!!! we got a brp and love it the 300 would be great for the boss enjoy the day #livetoride
Thanks! You too!
Great video, as usual - thanks! I'm looking at replacing the full exhaust on my Rally, looking to reduce weight AND achieve a more pleasant note, (but NOT noise!) Any performance improvement would be a bonus but not a show stopper. I'd also thought about a 550 mod for more precise low throttle response. However, it's just struck me there might be insurance implications - many companies like any excuse to jack up the premium. Any thoughts?
Answer to my own question about insurance implications: I rang the insurance company, told them what I was thinking of doing (exhaust + 550 + suspension) and asked how much it would cost. After a 10 minutes to think about it, they said "just pay the admin charge for the change." - SORTED! 👍
I went for the Arrow exhaust with a CAT in the end. It was then the only homologated exhaust available. No power increase but it did save a few kg high up on the bike and isn’t loud but has a pleasing sound. To my ear at least! I might have done the 550 ECU. Maybe a touch more top end and a bit smoother low down, but it’s marginal. I have the airbox mods to do, so perhaps after that I’ll see if I can dyno it vs a standard bike just to see.
I've a question, I installed mine on my 300L. Where the header pipe meets the block, is the pipe slimmer in thickness like mine? Did yrs come with a washer of sorts? Tks ☺
Good question. Can’t remember! No washer (gasket?) that I recall, and I’ll check the pipe diameters.
How does the bike run? Not to lean did you remap it or put a fuel programmer on it? Thanks
Bike runs pretty much the same as stock. No remap or programmer has been used. No flat spots in the Rev range. That said, there is no noticeable power improvement either.
Just for interest, Ive had a moto x for four years on my 250 rally. Its worn well but the exhaust gas is directed directly on the indicator and after some spirited riding melted away, New indicators , new location. The end can doesnt have the well thought out heat shielding the standard can has so make using side bags problematic. Although the primary focus on exhaust tune is euro 4/5 compliance, a lot of engineering goes into torque production and mid range drops away somewhat with the moto-x. Exhaust, mapping ,cubic capacity and stroke etc make effects on torque. On the dyno mid range was seen to drop but hp didnt change much. Pulling of the snorkel gained half a pony and a dna filter another half. Ive been a little concerned about resulting leaness but 35000 k later no noticeable problem. Fueling conrollers like a power commander will allow mixture changes but ideally breaking into the map and rewrite on the dyno is the trick. Newer generation bikes make that hard. but hopefully this week newly aquired software will allow us to break in. Exciting days ahead. A great and realistic result would be 3 or 4 rear wheel ponies, smoothing and creating and redirecting torque where it is neede. Heres hoping.
Finally I know we are comparing differnt models here but the basics are the same. The moto-x looks the same, im guessing slightly larger manifold pipe but dont know. Great weight saving but expect a slight drop in torque.
Thanks Peter, interest indeed! I’ve not noticed any heat (at least not close to melting temperatures) on the indicator yet, but will keep an eye on it. I’ve done one weekend away with soft luggage and used an Enduristan Inferno heat shield which seemed to keep the bags cool. May I ask where you are? I’d be interested in getting the bike on a dyno to get some real data, and if I can get a remap to match, even better! I’ve not noticed any change, it still pulls uphill in most gears (not 6th) and hits 70+ on a GPS speedo ( the dash reads 7-8mph more than the GPS).
@@PeakMotorcycles
Interesting. My 250 over reads at the same rate. I put on a on tooth smaller motor sproket and that made the gps and speedo match. It was fine on the open road smoother good speed , higher cruise but a strong headwind and a hill put you in 3rd and 4th ( the rally screen is somewhat of a wind handbrake ). I have gone back to original as 1st gear was too high in slippery off road conditions but I really shouldnt be in first anyway so I need to toughen up. I did 300 + k yesterday and decided to put the smaller cog back on when i can muster up enough enthusiasm to go out to the garage., Im inherently lazy.
In answer to your question about where I live, well unfortunately I live in a kingdom far far away ( NZ) so I cant take you down the road to play on the dyno. I will map ( more correctly observe and encourage my wonderful friend and guru )in the next week or so and will update you. Again hopefully the remap will give me the power to pull the new cog and bike et al up the more challenging of hills and wind in 5th.
I will keep you informed of the results
Thanks! I’m sure I can find a tuning company locally over here, NZ is a long way to travel for such things and I doubt we’re allowed in yet! 🤣. There was a NZ motorcycle shipping company at the ABR festival, so perhaps I’ll get down there sometime.
The gearing on the 300 is a lower 1-5 and higher 6th so the effects you mentioned for the gearing would be even more noticeable with a sprocket change! I can get by with a 10% speedo error, particularly as I generally have my Nav on the bike. It’s good to know that the MotoX is still going after 4 years; there’s plenty of folks who assume that as it’s1/4 to 1/3 the price of an established brand it must therefore be junk.
Good luck with your remap.
I called a dyno/remap place here (Hilltop Motorcycles) and they said they couldn’t do anything with a CRF300L so no dice there. I did check the bike again and I think there has been a bit of softening if not actual melting, of the corner of my number plate nearest the end of the exhaust. That said, it’s a very thin flexi-plate, so perhaps if I stuck with a proper one it wouldn’t matter.
@@PeakMotorcycles hi. Yes up until now we havent been able to source the software for the remap. Again ill send you the details, readouts etc after the deed is done. Ill also research the 300 also. Hopefully in a week or so.
hi, did you get more power ? don't you need to reprogram the ecu? the bike can run leen ?
No noticeable power increase I’m afraid. The aim was weight saving, quiet and low cost. I expect a controller is needed to tweak the power.
Nice Vid, looks like a nice pipe. Am I right in thinking this will fit the 300l and do you mind me asking if you had to pay any import duties this end. thanks in advance.
It does, and I didn’t, though I’m not sure what determines the import charges. I assume it’s value but my experience has varied. I’ve had other similar value shipments where I had to pay VAT, and an import admin charge. So it seems to be pot luck though there should be some real rules around what is and what isn’t charged.
@@PeakMotorcycles Thanks, I have ordered mine today, just need my 300L now lol but should be soon now.
I got this exhaust and did have to pay the taxes etc, approximately £50.00
@@garyc7464 ok thanks for warning me, its on its way now so I will have to pay it. Looking forward to when I have a 300L to put it on lol
Do you need to a tune on this? Or is it manufactured to work seamlessly?
Not sure if it needs a tune. I’ve not found any flat spots in the Rev range. No power increase either, so it seems pretty similar to stock, just half the weight. It might have been designed to work seamlessly, or it’s just luck! 🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles Good to know! That’s what I’m looking for in an exhaust. Don’t really want to mess with the tune from the factory. I’m happy with the power at the moment and I’ve been getting 74 -82MPG (US) on my 300L
No gasket sealant between link pipe and slip-on?
Nope ;) It is a really good fit though.
10:51 can you suggest what type of protector is suitable to cover the pipe, as i can feel the heat on my leg?
I’m guessing you have an L not a Rally? On the Rally it’s inside the bodywork, so it’s not really a problem. I don’t suppose you can refit the stock heat shield on the L?
@@PeakMotorcycles You are right, I m having the L, thanks for the advice.
How much did you buy the full exhaust good sir? Thank you for your response
I didn’t put it in, as the audience is no more than 20% in any country, and the shipping and tax costs mean that what it costs in one place is significantly different from another. I suggest you look it up on Bikerzbits and select your shipping country to get the total. Then depending on what your local import taxes might be, you may have to add that on. This is the exhaust:
bikerzbits.com/honda-crf300l-rally-full-system-exhaust-muffler-231039.html
So around £190 + UK shipping (£20) + £10 clearance charges + £40 VAT. Though it seems not everyone gets the import charges, so to the UK, somewhere between £210-£260. Other countries will be different
Pardon my lack of knowledge but bikerzbits sells 4 different MotoX exhausts for the CRF300L Rally. How do you know which one to get?
‘Know’ is a strong word 🤣. When I bought mine, the V2 wasn’t available and the 3 choices were stainless pipes, alloy silencer. Stainless pipes and titanium/carbon silencer, titanium pipes and titanium/carbon silencer. I think the prices back then were something like £140/£160/£320, so I picked the middle one.
In hindsight, the cheapest one would have been better, as the carbon end cap started melting after a few days of riding. I reported it to them but they weren’t interested. I’ve since switched mine out for an Arrow Thunder Titanium with a catalytic converter.
@@PeakMotorcycles They’ve since added a note for the one you got that states, “Please remove silencer to prevent carbon heat scoring”. 🤷🏼♂️ The Moto X exhaust is appealing because I noticed in the description of your Arrow noise test video that the Moto X exhaust is quieter than both the Arrow and stock exhausts, at idle and mid RPM. Most 300L owners here in the US seem to get the Yoshimura exhaust, which I’m sure is great, but it’s just too loud for me. Your videos are great by the way. The most informative and useful 300L playlist on TH-cam.
Please also do a soundcheck with the baflle out. So as load as possible.🙈 I like loud.😇 That people can hear you. It saves lifes.
Happy to do the test with the baffles out, but it doesn’t save lives and this has been proved and tested several times. If you are relying on loud pipes to save you, also try riding to the conditions and circumstances, as that has a much better chance of keeping you out of hospital.
Liking loud pipes is fine, I love to hear and feel loud pipes around a race track, but I don’t want to sit on top of them all day. Be careful with your hearing too, sustained exposure to loud pipes causes permanent hearing damage.
Each to their own though, just check the facts before you put yourself and others in danger.
@@PeakMotorcycles Please don't hate me.🥺🥺
@@keesverhagen9227 I don’t 🤣. Like I said, I quite like a loud exhaust (I have the termi race pipe, baffles in on my Duc Scrambler, and both my GS and CBKR were ordered with the Akra pipes, also both with cat’s and baffles in.) I get loud pipes, riding a motorcycle is how it makes you feel as well as what and where you ride, and feeling the noise makes it special. So like loud pipes for what they are, (awesome, obvs!) but they don’t save lives. 🤘🥳
How much was the exhaust do they ship to the USA by chance do you know?
Shipping is a big part of it, so probably best to check here:
bikerzbits.com/honda-crf300l-rally-full-system-exhaust-muffler.html
I’d get that one over the one I have, as the end cap is less prone to melting!
Did you manage to reattach the heat shield?
No. There wasn’t really any easy way to do it. I bought an Enduristan ‘Inferno’ heat shield instead and put that on whenever I’m using the panniers. If just out trail riding I don’t bother.
Hello, where did you buy it? I can not find online
Hi, it’s this:
bikerzbits.com/honda-crf300l-rally-full-system-exhaust-muffler-231039.html
But I’d suggest getting the alloy one instead as the end cap is less likely to melt:
bikerzbits.com/honda-crf300l-rally-full-system-exhaust-muffler.html
Does the Moto x have a catalytic converter? Cheers,
Hi, no I don’t think so. It’s a straight through pipe with an insert/baffle at each end of the silencer.
Fitting one on my L 300, did u do any Ecu mod? If not did u find any difference in performance, better or worse? Tks ☺
Hi, no ECU mod. There isn’t one yet for the UK ECU, so I can’t even turn off the fuel cut off thing. Performance difference is minimal if any. Some say a bit more torque and a bit less top end, but I haven’t really noticed much. Biggest difference is the weight. Saving 3kg high up helps quite a lot.
@@PeakMotorcycles Tks for yr reply, appreciate it. Fuel cut off thing? What's that?
@@DaveDayve To meet the emissions regulations, when you come off the throttle, the ECU cuts the fuel. This makes it a bit snatchy, especially at low speeds. In the US the ECU can be reprogrammed to not cut the fuel as soon as you come off the throttle, making smoother at low speeds. I think that's what it does, over here, it's not available (yet), but I'm sure someone across the pond can confirm.
@@PeakMotorcycles ah... Doesn't bother me, KTM 1290 adventure threw u clean over handlebars if u didn't watch out. Taming that Was a challenge. With 300 it's lame. Could always ride a Gear higher if possible
@@DaveDayve 🤣, aye, it’s not that severe on the CRF, it’s just a small thing and most people will live with it (including me). Those that have had the ECU change say it’s a lot better. If I every get to try it, I’ll let you know what it’s like. Until then I’ll try to stay the seat side of the handlebars 😉
why is no other exhaust manufactur except FMF able to put some proper brackets to there exhausts so you can install the oem heatshield.... it always looks like there is something missing on the bike with that exhausts totaly exposed
Extra cost and extra weight I guess? I’ve been riding mine for 500 miles without and haven’t missed the heat shield. Mind you, it’s nearly always cold in the UK!
From other videos I have seen the Moto-x sounds a little quieter than the stock exhaust
My video or others? Not sure how you can tell from a video alone as it depends on mic location, gain settings on the preamp and post processing. I’ve done measurements with a noise meter using FIM standard tests and have compared stock with MotoX and with both inserts in, it is quieter than stock at idle, not much it in at 5k rpm and louder above that. It’s these two videos if you’re interested:
Stock: th-cam.com/video/tTtveWIcb4M/w-d-xo.html
MotoX: th-cam.com/video/q4qW3I3bmi4/w-d-xo.html
Can you tell me what the spark arrest does and is it important to put in
I can try, and as it's the internet, I'm sure someone will correct me if I have anything wrong! Essentially it's there to stop any flame or sparks coming out of the end of the exhaust. The pops and bangs that can occur on the overrun are unburned fuel hitting the hot exhaust and igniting. If you're riding in a high fire risk area, you don't want this to start a fire. I think it's more of a thing in the USA where some areas require exhausts to have a spark arrester to be legal. In the UK it's too damp most of the time and not really a thing.
The other consideration is that the fueling for the bike is based on certain assumptions about airflow. How much can come in through the filter and how much can be pushed out of the exhaust. To keep the engine running within the ECU parameters, a certain amount of back pressure from the exhaust is required, and the spark arrester contributes to this. If there is insufficient back pressure then it can lead to lean running of the engine.
I hope this makes sense, and I'm sure someone will correct or clarify if it doesn't!
@@PeakMotorcycles you lost me at I can try 😆
@@jackchristodoulou197 🤣🤣🤣. I can try again… it stops fire coming out of the exhaust and setting things alight. And keeps the engine running like it should!
Does anyone know if the motox exhausts are E rated for the European Union i.e. are they legal? :)
I’m pretty sure they are not E marked….
@@PeakMotorcycles hello!!! Is the MotoX exhaust homologated Euro5 to Europe?
@@javierhurtadocamps9795 I'm pretty sure it isn't. It has no catalytic converter and definitely isn't E marked. (Even if it was, I doubt it would be genuine...) Mind you, I don't think any of the others (Yoshimura, DEP etc.) are homogated. The only one that is, (that I know of) is the Arrow X-Kone but only if you also get the cat link pipe and header. Compliance comes at a price!
anyones else’s bike making a little pop and stalling right after the install? i’ve only had the bike on for about 5 mins with the new pipe but it will make a pop and stall sometimes. just wondering if this is normal or something to be worried about
I didn’t have that. Do you have both the spark arrester and baffle installed (the metal funnel with holes in between the link pipe and silencer, and the insert into the end of the exhaust?). A pop is sometimes unburned fuel being pushed into a hot exhaust, so if the ignition is off but there’s a few engine cycles, the fuel and air could be combined, is not ignited and is then pushed out into the exhaust. I expect someone else will know both a better answer and explanation. Something to do with back pressure perhaps. My bike would stall when cold and I didn’t give it much gas before pulling away, but that sounds like a different problem to yours.
@@PeakMotorcycles Yeah i think that is a different problem but it seems to have stopped now and ive gone for a few rides with it. I did take the insert out tho because i ride in the bush and i want to hear the bike at high speed. it almost seems slower at times but faster at others but idk maybe its the ECU re mapping itself to the new airflow
How did the heat shield fit?
The stock one? Not at all. There's some fittings on the original pipe in addition to the bolt so it wasn't even worth trying. i did wonder if I'd be able to fit it using some large jubilee clips and a threaded fitting but no luck. Instead I used an Enduristan Inferno heat shield which worked just fine and I've done a couple of hundred miles with my Blizzard panniers down to the ABR Festival and back with 4 days of camping gear and the 'Inferno' heat shield did just fine.
@@PeakMotorcycles can you show me a photo?
@@cruiserferb7166 can you see it on here? instagram.com/p/CQfvlhSH0vl
the heather join fall before you mount the new pipe
I think that’s going to need a bit of explanation? Tried to guess what it might be autocorrected from but struggling. Apologies.
LINK of exaust?
It’s one of these: bikerzbits.com/honda-crf300l-rally-full-system-exhaust-muffler-231039.html
is it too loud?
With the baffles in, no, I don’t think so. It’s slightly louder than stock, but not significantly so.
@@PeakMotorcycles does it come with the crush washer for the header?
Also wanted to ask if you've noticed an rattle around 5k. I've read about at least a dozen other 300l owners saying they have it too. What could it be? If you had it before, did the MotoX exhaust make it go away? Here's a short video I made featuring the noise. Thanks for any help in advance. I think I'll have a Honda dealer look at it. Great bike. Annoying rattle. th-cam.com/video/hQsN8RhpzTE/w-d-xo.html
Hi, I’ve seen reports of that, but haven’t had it myself. I think someone mentioned that it was the auto-cam chain tensioner or something that only went up in steps and if you were just before the next step then you got the rattle. Something like that at least. There was a mod for the 250 that added manual adjustment. Or it’s something else! One of the forums where someone has had the problem and then fixed it should be able to give you a better answer.
@@PeakMotorcycles jake the snake has a video discussing it. a bad reed valve in one of the emission systems is what he found. check out his video on removing eco stuff
I'll probably just go on a diet instead. Lol
This has also been suggested to me.(It's the last time I do a preload adjustment video!) Or put 3.5l less gas in the tank!
You're chubby and you're talking about saving a pound or 2 on components, kinda ludicrous bro
🤣 Thank you! How very kind; your friends must find your company a delight.
Though it’s more than a pound or two, six maybe but that’s not really the point is it?Thanks for watching anyway, it is ludicrous that after two years people are still finding this video. Ride safe.
@@PeakMotorcycles ah all good man, if it helps im chubby also :p
@@greywolf000 we make the world go round. And keep the suspension companies in business 🤣🤘