Is Krump HipHop? | Tighteyex Doesn't hold back!
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Ceasare "TightEyex" Willis
Creator. Originator. & Innovator of Krump
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Tight Eyez 1 of the main reasons I started dance..I've watched all the dvd's countless times. 1 of my favorite dancers and dances!
All due respect, Hip Hop OGs and Legends do not agree that Krump isn’t under the Hip Hop umbrella lol
Like who? What did Buddha stretch say?
At times, I can't tell if Tight Eyex is delusionally arrogant or uber confident in his expositions. But what I do know is that he speaks with both conviction and experience, with the sweat equity to validate it all. As one of the forefathers of Krump I will acquiesce to taking whatever he says as truth, since I am ignorant to the intricacies and politics of Krump. At the end of the day, how can you tell the inventor that he's wrong in saying what he created ISN'T Hip Hop? I love his cheeky sense of humour.
Because he wasn’t the sole “inventor” of it . Though he’s the best doesn’t mean his style or way is the way or end all be of how it should be.
@@b1slee267false nor was that the point.Also if he hasn’t been beat in 20 years clearly his style must be the strongest
@b1slee267 I can agree with this to an extent. There's always variants of an invention and each serve their purpose.
@@LanceG007 tf are you talking about? Because he’s the best means everyone should model after him? Sounds like some meat riding to me
He’s just another human being, nothing special. He can say whatever he wants but having a title like he does is dangerous if used the wrong way like he is doing. To me he’s just moulding his own narrative.
Krump has definitely made it to the mainstream. Krumps been in some of the biggest dance movies ever, Super Bowl, the Olympics, World Hip hop Championships, International All style events, Krumpers have toured the world with the biggest artists in the world to this day, UFC, SYTYCD, ABDC, World Of Dance (NBC), Documentries, formula 1, the Simpsons…like bro what?…the list goes on…krump is mainstream. And yes krump is not hip hop DANCE but is within the Hip hop culture and has already been acknowledged by hip hop as it’s own style…if not it wouldn’t be where it is today.
“What about the people in Japan” proceeds to show a Korean dancer 😂😅
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His ignorance goes beyond that even..
As someone who disagreed with you Eyex from a culture perspective I finally understand what you mean now when you explained the dance part.It is very different
Then you dont understand hip hop dance.... the basic foundation of it
I will say that is one of the best things about Krump: the creator is still alive and is the best. The Hip-Hop pioneers (Coke La Rock, Herc, Zaza/Trixie, etc.) all semi/retired before Hip-hop hit the mainstream and now you have this fight over who created it. That's why Latinos, Jamaican and White people can come in and say stupid shit like "Hip-hop was created 50/50." They can never do that with Krump.
Hip-hop is a culture of THE BRONX which at the time of it's birth was inhabited by Black Americans, Caribbean Americans, and Caribbean immigrants like Jamaica and PR. Culture is REGIONAL. So yes....all had a hand in creating the culture of Hiphop. Hope this helps! 😘
krump is for everybody who's a warrior!
The fact that you all canNOT SEE how this type of content creates even MORE DIVISION is mind blowing 🤦🏾♂️🤌🏾… Krump will never reach the heights that it CAN when the “Krump House/Kingdom” is DIVIDED/SEPARATED 🤌🏾. You, Tight Eyez, MUST have that conversation with Mijo, Slayer, Ms. Prissy, and Lil C, make up, and start building again. Whether you, and/or the individuals that rock with you, want to acknowledge it or not, they ALL had a hand in creating this AMAZING DANCE STYLE CALLED KRUMP… Also, Ms. Prissy ALREADY SAID that she was not the “Queen of Krump”, so you and/or the producer is corny for putting that question in this vid🤦🏾♂️…
And you are corny for using the Bible/religion to make your put about how Krump is for every race as if that is not shown already… this is a PRIME EXAMPLE of what it looks like when you lie to yourself… this nonsense needs to stop and you all must come together 🤦🏾♂️🤌🏾…
Shut up
Today's genz dancers are making up their own mind and saying tight eyes is not the creator or founder of krump😂😂 what more we can say
I don't see it that way, truth brings clarity not division. We're living in the era of truth cos of the might of social media, I say this is the best time for what TE is doing. This is a spiritual btw light and darkness, as corny as it sounds the battleground is on the social media for now. The devil will fight anything Kingdom that's y the Hip hop community hv been fighting the movement.
God has a purpose in this movement for the last days.And it's among the youth
@@jesuschristiscomingsoon8243You can give truths without naming anyone. They all in the wrong to be honest. Never return reviling with reviling. It needs to be a sit down, amongst witnesses, and bring your bone to the table. Pray together, discuss differences, listen, and come up with a solution. The strategy of the enemy is to keep division there, so who will step out of themselves and allow the Lord to use them, and bring unity and love. Where there is love and unity, the gifts of the Holy Spirit can flow 🙏🏿
This is a tricky subject. Tight Eyex literally raps over his Krump beats. Rapping IS HIP HOP, PERIOD.
The foundational movements of Krump are what? Stomps, Travels/footwork, Arm Swings, Chest Pops. Chest pops are a movement that comes from POPPING. POPPING was birthed to electro funk music and was adopted by hip hop as breakdancing is literally the original hip hop dance. The travels and footwork uses various styles/movements of footwork that come from house, reggaeton, dancehall, afro, stepping, gliding, etc. Stomps come from stepping. Stepping is hip hop. The arm swings are literally the only movements that haven't been taken from styles that preceded KRUMP. Krump could literally not be Krump without the external movements used to layer it. The external movements come from various styles like animation, house, ticking, strobing, a ton of popping, various styles of footwork, etc.
The music you create is technically hip hop because of the rapping you utilize on many Krump tracks. You do not get to use rap in krump music and say its not hip hop. You also don't get to utilize movements from styles the predated the birth of Krump as the foundational elements of Krump nor get to uses these movements to layer your foundational movements with and not call it hip hop especially when the literal foundation of Krump is made up of movements that come from various styles much of which is LITERALLY HIP HOP! You have HIP HOP fused within your dance and your music. Popping was done to funk music and is a funk style. Because bboying became prominent at the same time period as popping and many of the other west coast styles, it was only natural for hip hop to adopt the west coast styles into east coast music and dance.
IDC if you're the creator of Krump. I dance many styles and KNOW MY HISTORY and the movements including Krump. I love what you have given the world, however that doesn't give you the right to make the rules as you go! It doesnt give you the right to dictate the dance genre because even you stole movements that belong to other styles that were created by other people!
Krump is visually its own thing as far as its appearance and rules within it. It provides arm swings and the neatly chaotic movements that really distinguish it. However, outside of that, there is too much in and outside of it foundation that uses movements that belong to other styles that fall within hiphop to say that Krump isnt apart of hiphop or should be adopted by it like every single urban dance style before it. #facts
You don't even know your own dance entirely because you don't know the history of the movements that belong to other styles, styles that belong to other ppl. you expect the world to learn your dance and this and that but you lack knowledge yourself
I WILL DEBATE THIS ALL DAY!!!!!
Lastly, I still very much respect you, appreciate you, look up to you, am personally inspired by you, and am in aww by the way you move and animate your dance. its AMAZING what you've done and accomplished and what you stand for! Thank you for doing your best to guide us through your dance/ the most high's dance.
@@1ReaZon You can debate with yourself.
@Tighteyex it's just open dialogue. A healthy form of discussion on said subject matter. I can't see how you could disagree with much of the points I have made.
I'm not out to tear you down, or disrespect you. If I am missing something it's not because I'm trying to reside in a place of ego.
If I am honestly wrong, I would have no problem taking the humble route, eating my words to adopt new perspective on the subject matter.
I don't see the faults in my logic. I do however see faults in the things you've stated here today...
Perhaps you could shed light on a deeper scale. 🫱🏻🫲🏿
Aint no need to debate. They're gonna keep fighting against it when the shit is clearly obvious.
Smh put it this way.. English and Spanish use the same alphabet but they are completely two different languages.. yes you could pop lock and do chest pops, a Krump chest pop is gonna translate completely different.
@worlddropout8752 there is no variation of a chest pop in Krump that is executed differently than what was/ has/ is already being done in popping. There were multiple ways to do chest pops in popping. The movements are just foundational to Krump the executions of each variation is literally popping.
the apart about race was deep, respect.
People will accept waackin, house, popping as their own style but get mad at tight eyex
I was thinking miss prissy is why we have balance points lol
The projection in this video is baffling 😂🤣🤣
Keep spreading the truth and light Eyex so many people are confused and lost in the Krump community and dance community in general !!!
Tight Eyez raps on krump-beats and rap is hip hop. + almost every krump music has many hip hop basics on it. krump music has many hip hop voices in it like: busta rhymes, 50 cent, m.o.p etc… (Tight Eyez is a big lier.) #wakeup
@@Poahpoahpoah rapping and Dancing are two completely different things folks, we’re strictly talking about krump dancing not rap battles and rap lyrics g, go restart this video and then re read your comment 🙏🏾
With all due respect how tf you put the dougie and the stanky leg as examples of hiphop... wth
Because those are hip hop dances
@@LanceG007 Literally everything he showed was party dances. Why show basic ahzz party dances that's designed for the general public to be able to pick up on when comparing to krump, just say you don't know anything about hiphop w/o saying it. That was done on purpose though. If you want to seperate yurselves from hiphop cool but give it it's respect like you say.
No need to respect the one that is outta his mind. I'm wondering what's his IQ at this point
Krump is different not because its origin. But because of the mentality and feel. The energy is very tribal. Its the taking of Ego and transmutating it into a Language that helps the wielder not only understand themselves but Also the power of God. Is Jkd The same as Mma? No but it did contribute to the creation of Fighting as we know it today. As hip hop has contributed to the creation of Krump as breaking has contributed to hip hop and vice versa.
I understand the distinction you’re making, but I also understand why people say Krump is part of hip-hop.
For example I’m my own person, but I’m also someone’s child and family member and that’s not something I can physically change. Krump is similar in that way.
Boom-Bap and Uk Drill are distinct sounds with different structures and rules but they’re still Hip-Hop and represent its various evolutions.
I’m liking these . I be glued in.
Eyex should do a podcast
So more people get the wrong direction?
Didn't you guys already battle? lol. On beast's podcast she did remove herself from the title "Queen of Krump" and gave it to Queen Buckhype. Side note - Some of the buckest females in the world are in PH right now
Haha no
Who is she to give anyone a title
Bruh, hip hop wasn't rejecting you, it was the industry that controls the media and who gets exposure to the world, that's who was rejecting krump. Hip Hop doesn't control the industry, the industry uses hip hop and decides what's hot and what's not. Think about it, if the culture of hip hop was rejecting Krump then the movie Rize would've been a failure. Nobody except for your community would know who you are. It is the hip hop culture that embraced, spent money, and supported Krump and even you till this day. For those who don't know the meaning of hip hop......hip hop is a word that pools together everything that people who grow up in a struggle do to find happiness in the midst of that struggle. It is the different styles of clothes that are worn in the neighborhoods that separate them from people who can't relate to what that lifestyle is about. It is the MANY different dances that are created all around the world from people in communities caught up in the struggle. Hip Hop doesn't have 1 way of dress or 1 way of dance or 1 way of wearing your hairstyle, hip hop is a word that unites all the tribes / ghettos / communities of people caught up in the struggle with this thing called life. Thats why it has gone global. Like you said, it's not a black or white thing, it's a culture that the "have nots" have embraced and ran with it. You're out here biting the hands that fed and feed you. Contrary to your belief, it is definitely a part of the hip hop culture. It would be like someone dressing in African clothing, speaking the African language, hanging around African people and living in an African neighborhood and saying that their dancing doesn't have anything to do with the African culture. Everything you do and represent is hip hop. At the end of the day, you're just doing a dance of many dances that has been improved upon from the ancient times to the present, just like Hip Hop culture evolved from ancient times till the present. You should watch KRS 1 rap video "Hip Hop Lives" (I go back) for a clearer understanding of hip hop. Salute to you for your part in the movie Rize, you definitely repped Krump to the fullest and was the best in the movie, hands down.
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You need to watch the video
Facts 🫡
A bruh you helping me to see hip-hop is actually racist now because of the industry controllers. Great video bro.
Listening to grown men whine about beefs from their teen years is exhausting.
He's a chlid that need s to grow up, or otherwwise go to psychologist or doctor to get his things straight
damn we gonna need a podcast from you 🙏
This is kinda a podcast
😮😮😮😮😮😮KRUMP IS NOT ONLY HIPHOP IS AFREEKAAN AND BOTH ARE AFREEKAAN- XHECK IT!!!!
King Eyex...I know there are levels and there are differences. @ 1:48 you stated that Krump was Hip Hop's offspring. So you ARE your mother's child. MCing, DJing, Breakdance, Graffiti and Knowledge are the 5 pillars of Hip-Hop. It branches off into language, slang, shtyle, fashion and more and you know that. You were born in New York for goodness sake. You embody ALL of these pillars. You dance on the break of the beat, you make music and instrumentals, you are a master of ceremonies, you can't help but drip knowledge you've absorbed from the bible and from life and I know you do art. You know your DNA is ancient and you are a star seed. Krump is Hip-Hop and Hip-Hop is Krump. It's inescapable. We set the trends. So fambro, just remember....You are royalty and YOU'RE STILL REPRESENTIN'. ✌🏿👑👁👁🙏🏿 -💥
I have to agree with Eyes. While I believe Krump is a part of hip hop culture, as a dance it is it's own entity and should be treated as such. What homegirl was doing is not krump. it's Krap lol Even hip hop dancers should be offended
That's what people who say Krump is hip-hop are saying, Krump is hip hop culture...
And Miss Prissy gets off, He just showed the videos of her doing her contemporary style to be manipulative
Thank you Miss Prissy for making his video entertaining and unifying the Krump an HipHop movement by giving us all something to laugh at!
Krump is different not because of this move is that and that move came from this.... But because of the mentality and feel. The energy is very tribal. Its the taking of Ego and transmutating it into a Language that helps the wielder not only understand themselves but the Also the power of God within. Hip hop does this too. But it feels more like water... Water and Fire are 2 very different elements.
Agree 👽
I’m glad you spoke out out about krump being only for black ppl because there was a krump battle with Korean krumper buckey from earlier this year against a black krumper and this girl in comments was talking about how she wasn’t krumping and krump was only for black ppl
KRUMP is KRUMP... I was thinking this soon as this situation was brought up 😅
Krump is stupid to me now. They’ve ruined it.
Nah bro, it’s fine just stop listening to tight eyez. He’s the one who ruins it for everyone. Krumps so much more fun when he’s out of the equation 😂
@@CarlosSkipper I agree ☝️. I feel like it’s way too many people saying the same shxt about Tight Eyez for it to just not be true.
Point Krump is apart of the CULTURE of Hip Hop. It is not the dance style of Hiphop. Breakin is the iconic dance of hiphop but even breakin has its own culture. Though neither of these would exist without/o the CULTURE of HipHop. I’m confident on that hill and I would battle anyone over that understanding. Once again understand Krump dance is not hiphop dance. But it is HipHop Culture ❤ battle me
Is krump only for believers?
No, do you listen this man has told you all time and time again, but you refuse to listen and ask the sane shit smh
He's said krump is for everyone smh
So why cite the Bible just to make that point.
No, he just draws his own inspiration from the Bible
it becomes religious cult at this point ahahahah
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Quick question: I thought Tight eyex and Mijo created krump. Why are so many people stating they are founders? I watched a video on Bvck Originals where they had a panel stating it was 5 people. I honestly never heard of that.
It was more than 2 people but tight eyex gave himself the creator title
Yeah and like they said in that video how the co stars kept changing by him but yet he was one. So can someone be trusted if one was a creator in one instance then someone else was in the next?
@@killingmygamez_bonbon919were u there
@@killingmygamez_bonbon919no it wasn’t,yall need to stop with there was more than one and then start naming all of these people
The new way of Krump don't work as well as the old Krump styles in these hip hop dance battles.
Go to psychologist, see the doctor, or grow up.
Child that deletes comments, and can't accept constructive criticism, or have a normal dialogue.
To be honest man i think your playing both sides. Your a villain and a hero but spiritually you can only pick one. You divided the krump scene. Other leaders have too. But your the nail in the coffin.
There’s only one leader in Krump and that’s him
Name another leader that can teach from every era of Krump
I’ll wait
He’s not the leader of krump, he’s an innovator of krump and one of the first to do it. He used to be the leader at one point but there are now many leaders/teachers. Krump is already well established, it has its creators, foundation and history. That’s all it needs, the information is out there for everyone who wishes to learn about it. Krump doesn’t need tight eyez anymore. There are so many krumpers out there that have the experience and knowledge to keep it evolving.
@@CarlosSkipper so why isn’t it really moving in the US without him?
@@LanceG007 we are just living in a different era, a new era. US scene is not the same as it used to be. A lot of old krumpers are not active anymore. They are rebuilding atm. But the scene is still very much active over there just not as big as it used to be. Also tight eyez doesn’t do anything for krump in US. Everyone in the states has been running their own events and sessions for years. So really it’s not tight eyez trying to keep the scene alive over there it’s the different krump communities from their own respective cities. The only thing eyez does is hold private sessions (bands krumpers from attending he doesn’t like or has beef with) and paid privates like SLX. So like he really ain’t trying to help or push the movement in the states at all. That’s not his passion. He just rocks up to events to judge if he gets asked and that’s really it he barely goes to sessions anymore to show love. And in all honesty he don’t show love to nobody. It’s all for self benefit…
We still want a statement about what happened againdt kefton
This is before he went to France
Keftoon
Is weak
I still have to disagree, From a dance perspective, Yes, Krump is not hip hop DANCE, But from a cultural aspect, What was y'all niggas dancing to before Krump music?... From the music you danced too, To the fashion you wore, Even the graffiti style writing you airbrushed or sprayed on your white T's back in the Cartoonz days, Krumps origins was too drenched in Hip Hop culture, Now you can argue that it's not culturally apart of hip hop anymore and I'll give you that but the beginnings were the beginnings
So if we originally Krumped in suits etc it won't be Hip Hop ? I get were you coming from though...Krump does take inspiration from parts of the Hip Hop culture,,,just like Amapiano (where I come from) which takes inspiration in house ,hip hop and others etc.....
That's just because the modern creators of Krump were Black but Krump is not a Black dance.
When a dope White Krumper dances, it is not Blackface.
Krump is spirit and energy based, not race or culture based.
@@voicethefirst2560 Not inspired by hip hop, But Krump was IN hip hop culture, Not anymore tho, But in the beginning yes..
@@tyreclarke2248 krump is more than just a dance, style, or culture. In its early stages, we did not have a full revelation of what krump is. AND that revelation continues to unfold. In the beginning of anything, you’re working with very limited knowledge and must work with what you have and is available at the time. Everything in life is progressive. But also remember: Krump is Kingdom Radically Uplifted Mighty Praise. Key word: Praise. Its true purpose is to Glorify God whether people use it for that purpose or not and that is always their choice because krump doesn’t force anyone to receive its true essence. HipHop has a different purpose. And that is why Krump is not HipHop. But like I said in the video, we can exchange. And if you still disagree, that’s fine. But it will never change my stance.
@@KiiroSagiinfact everything you said was dumb as well but I'm not going to correct you...
Yep 💯
This man is a coward. If you say the truth, he delete your comments like he did to me. 🤦🏽♂️
He is, same here. This child can't accept other people's opinion.
@@DmitriousBazhanovthese are facts what eyex said. Your opinion is just...
idk but in his explanation bboy would also not count as hip hop so i dont agree krump is a sub of hip hop
Breaking is THE original hip hop dance wtf are u talking about??
@@wesleylcb thats what im saying but if you listen to his (tight eyez) explaination of what hip hip dance is it would not fall in there and also a bunch of other hip hop categorys would not count to hip hop if we follow his logic
" If you say Krump is HipHop:
1. You have no respect for Krump
2 .You have no respect for HipHop"
- TightEyex
This what I’ve been telling people for YEARS lol
Bruh wee respect ✊🏾 to all Styles But HipHop when wee do Allstyle Battles they Don’t give me A Same respect I don’t like this type of sxht.
As Anthony Burgess humorously once said "The thing about generalizations is the ones that appear most interesting are often false and the ones which are true aren't worth saying."
Krump is not a form of hip hop DANCE but is drenched in the essence of the hip hop CULTURE.
all yall in the comments still dont get it just because we used to dance to hip hop doesn't mean we are hip hop like he said we had to fight for our own Genre smh 🤦🏽♂️ yall gotta understand God created Krump we krump to Pianos drums 🪘 not just hiphop we Krump to Krump Music we created and the reason we have our own Music Genre is because we still til this day have to fight for our own rights smh 🤦🏽♂️ once again we are not Hip Hop idc how yall feel
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Love these videos. People dont like the truth!
I hate sidelines that watch things without partaking in them and then wanna tell you what is and what isn't in a discussion
I’m a Krump teacher been krumping for years now and if I’m going to tell people about why Krump is not hip-hop I do need a better explanation than this. Like for example, I think krump style is like a cross of rock and hip hop. I can definitely see that. Krump style has that rugged powerful sound and look to it.
How you teach and not see the difference in both styles
@@LanceG007 every style of hip hop is different. I come from the NY area. I seen all types of styles of hip hop. Breaking is hip hop and flexing is hip hop. Do they look the same?
@@LanceG007 In the video Eyez had the definition of hip hop right there and krump fit the definition 😂.
@@jmills476This person was replying under every unfavorable comment with some arrogant drivel. Best ignore them, save your explanations for the people intelligent enough to listen.
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so miss prissy be on that racist shxt with the craft ?,,,,damn
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I'm tired of saying it but here I go again to refresh the minds of these ignorant fools. There is no way to relate hip hop with Krump so no, krump is not Hip Hop.
Krumping is wack. Tight Eyez got smoked by Lilou and Junior
Krump isn't wack but you're right, Tight Eyex did lose to them ..
@@tyreclarke2248no he didn’t 😂
He said it himself he kept it light against Lilou as part of a strategy to save energy for/to face the Twins in the finals I believe.
But yeah I certainly agree Junior had him beat in that battle.
Junior dont have one leg, just lol.
DO NOT go watch anything, miss prissy post she is not krump.
Y'all folks get on here and start taking sides so quick. (lol) True ones of krump are here to bring unity between the ones that created the style (not further divide). And by the way you talking, I can tell Miss Prissy would have dog-walked you in any battle when she was a teen or in her early 20s. That right there? Is a fact. B/c many of y'all didn't study enough, nor do many of you know what K.R.U.M.P. mean from the top of the mind. How can any of y'all say Miss Prissy isn't krump when I studied how they all danced and seen how BUCK she was? Stop it. Quit it. The Most High Father is always going to be a center piece and THE CENTER PIECE to krump, something a lot of y'all either forgot about or never knew about. Tight Eyez even know that, no matter what has happened behind the scenes. Stamp this statement.
Krump is hip-hop, but the music you guys have been playing is not
bruh have you watched the video? or did you just went full dumbass?
Ballet is hip-hop, but the music you guys been playing is not
Jazz is Hip-hop,but....😂,,,this guy
@@voicethefirst2560Jazz is not Hiphop. Jazz comes from Blues. What tf are you talking about.
Last one Amapiano (the dance part) is Hip-Hop,,but the music you guys have been playing is not 😂😂😂😂😂