Grassy terrain boost is applied before the game even checks for abilities that affect damage so by the time Technician checks the damage, the move will already be above 70 damage
Completely unrelated but I absolutely adore that rillaboom Sprite, I just like the way he looks looking like an actual gorilla and not human in a gorilla suit
@salvadorhernandes3257 rillaboom's in game model and battle pose is off putting. It looks like a human in a suit. The sprite in this video has it in a more natural looking "gorilla" hunched over pose which just looks nicer imo
@@rayqcina4869 bro that's all I've wanted for so long. With the state of power creep at the minute it wouldn't even that horrific if he got Brave Bird. Also, if we got the likes of wild charge and flare blitz, they would be huge for him too. Since he can already use the elemental fangs is it really a stretch to say he can't use those too?
@@rayqcina4869 Radical Red had a good compromise - you could get an Aerodactyl with Brave Bird & Headlong Rush, which makes contact so it is boosted by Tough Claws as well. Honestly, it makes Aero one of the most frightening Megas in the game, one turn of Dragon Dance is all you need to wreck shop lol - and assuming you don't Mega you still have Rock Head brave birds flying around lol Wild Charge with Terra Electric + Dragon Dance + Rock Head would go pretty damn hard to be fair. It would mean he could nail the Bulky waters that might otherwise withstand his damage!
I'll be crying tears of happiness. Scald is actually my favorite move in the game. It's so unique as it's boiling water so it's a water move that burns! I hope it isn't just Volcanion and Milotic that can learn it tbh.
Man shuttup lmaoo. Cryin about how scald and toxic exist and then are perfectly fine when garg salt cures everything that doesnt run a niche item. Insane
Why breloom? Its 70 base power, right? So it isnt technician boosted and breelom has an attack that is barely higher than rillaboom's AND breloom cant set grass terrain on a switch. Or is this a joke i am not getting?
Oh, im dumb. Still therr is the posibility that rillaboom can not learn grassy glide this gen, maybe it will be able for Tapu Bullu now. That would at least be interesting since Bullu has a lot more weaknesses than Rillaboom and cam not learn Fake Out.
So I tested it on showdown with trailblaze scizor. The terrain bonus goes BEFORE technician, so it wouldn’t actually be 60*1.5*1.3 = 117 BP, it would be 60*1.3 = 78 BP which is too strong for technician.
Scale shot garchomp was the most stupid set this pokémon ever runned, it clearly deserves better than this gimmicky move. Hope it receives extreme speed instead, it's literally in its pokedex description
@artimist0315 I mean, with loaded dice garchomp might be great, will no longer have to rely on scarf and dice will make scale shot good physical dragon stab
@@autistic_potato1037 Where did you get that information from? That feels wrong. It was my understanding that only moves with variable base power like grassy knot can lose their technician boost because it makes the move itself have more than 60 base power. Terrain boosts the power of moves similar to rain and sun. Wiki says from Gen 5 and onward, technician is no longer effected by modifiers, and terrain should count as a modifier.
I have a feeling that even eith the nerf to 60 BP, Rillaboom will still ve hitting like a freaking double decker bus, just one going slightly slower than before.
All they need to do is lower the bp and burn chance. Scald does too much damage for the stall move that it is which allowed too many offensive Pokémon to run it. And 30% burn shouldn’t be more common on water type than fire type. Chilling water was the right step. I think if chilling water had a whirlpool effect it might have been a suitable replacement.
@@kevinstephenson3531 scald is not getting nerfed. It's either back or not back and I remember seeing confirmation of it coming back, tho it could be flawed.
The 2 other tms i want to comeback are triple axel and defog, triple axel so just mainly weavile can comeback a little bit and defog because there are really few ways to remove hazards in Ou
I do hope Weather Ball comes back as a TM. So that I don’t have to waste a Tera let’s say for example Tera Fire Venusaur with Tera Blast just to have Fire Coverage. Plus Weather Ball was a fun move to experiment with different Pokemon that was in Gen 8.
If the Isle of Armor tutor moves are coming back then that should mean Flip Turn will become more common. I don't know much about VGC but I'd imagine Corrosive Gas and Misty Explosion could also mix things up.
I would love to see dragapult have access to poltergeist since its only other physical ghost move previously was a 2 turn move, and effectively rendered its ghost typing offensively obsolete.
vgc has really become the "better of many evils" game recently with the hell that has been unleashed hasn't it (stares at the urshi-twins, fluttermane, and cocaine bear)
I kinda want Synchronoise to come back as a tm, with terastalising running rampant having a move to potentially counter mirror matches could lead to the game being more interesting and might require more guess work and more strategy with Tera's in general
Scorching sands is my favourite to come back. Triple axel was maybe a little too strong and ice spinner works well enough anyway. I want lash out to be back for Bisharp. To give a good stab with synergy to defiant.
Rillaboom definitely has potential in ou, especially with some of the pokemon it threatens. With a Choice Band, Drain Punch is a guaranteed ohko on Kingambit unless King teras, Grassy Glide is a guaranteed 2hko on offensive utility Great Tusk, with almost a 20% chance to ohko outright without using tera, Nasty Plot Gholdengo is ohko'd by Knock Off, can OHKO Iron Valiant with tera grass, and threatens Ting-Lu and Hisuian Samurott.
I wish we got all of the Isle of Armor tutor moves. Or at least the ones people were actually using. Flip Turn and Dual Wingbeat would be nice. Not to mention that having moves only really be usable for half a generation is weird
You have to take into consideration that Rillaboom MIGHT NOT learn Grassy Glide through TM. Just because they learned it in the past doesn’t mean they will have it now (looking at Weavile not having Throat Chop)
I just want toxic to be slightly universal again. It bugs me how Umbreon can’t use toxic(unless transferred) especially when it has/had a dex entry talking about having poisonous sweat
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Made a full video with my thoughts on this if you want to check out the long form content. Should be attached!
if annihilape gets lash out thatd be fuckin hilarious
"Grassy Glide has been weakened to 60 base power"
Technician Breloom: 👀
It's not that good without Grassy Surge is it?
Grassy terrain boost is applied before the game even checks for abilities that affect damage so by the time Technician checks the damage, the move will already be above 70 damage
@@autistic_potato1037that’s not how it works
@@sreenaths6829 just have rillaboom use u-turn.
@@autistic_potato1037 this is untrue and has been since gen 5, as at gen 5 technician stopped taking into account bp modifiers.
The dopamine rush I get from seeing these gen5 sprites for new mons >>>
Showdown needs to use these master crafts
These are so cool
Same tbh I need a gen5 romhack with the newer mons
That Grimmsnarl sprite was amazing!
@@irrelevoiceI know one but just up to gen 7 mons
I’m personally hoping that Triple Axel returns, it was such a great move on Weavile
And it would set it apart (?) from Chien-Pao if only it got it
@@Midnight-hz3epthen chien pao also gets triple axel despite it making zero sense because this is Pokemon lmao
@@stallsunguy3064well chien pal got sucker punch so I wouldn’t put it past game freak
@@stallsunguy3064and then Chien Pao also gets knockoff
@@matt6619sucker punch's Japanese name is suprise attack so that one is fine
That Grimmsnarl sprite is legendary
Completely unrelated but I absolutely adore that rillaboom Sprite, I just like the way he looks looking like an actual gorilla and not human in a gorilla suit
What the hell is this supposed to mean
@salvadorhernandes3257 rillaboom's in game model and battle pose is off putting. It looks like a human in a suit. The sprite in this video has it in a more natural looking "gorilla" hunched over pose which just looks nicer imo
Idk he looks like a Gorilla to me
@@shatteredsentient5321 well in the Sprite he looks more like a gorilla then
@@vossboss220 dawg how does a gorilla standing up look like a "human in a gorilla suit"
I want Dual Wingbeat to return, so that in the hopes that one day if Aerodactyl returns it can make use of a vicious dragon dance set!
I hope that Aerodactyl will finally get access to Brave Bird.
That way, the Rock Head Ability will finally have a use.
@@rayqcina4869 bro that's all I've wanted for so long. With the state of power creep at the minute it wouldn't even that horrific if he got Brave Bird. Also, if we got the likes of wild charge and flare blitz, they would be huge for him too. Since he can already use the elemental fangs is it really a stretch to say he can't use those too?
@@tomhuddleston1850 idk about Wild Charge, but I'd totally be down for Flare Blitz.
and for scyther
@@rayqcina4869 Radical Red had a good compromise - you could get an Aerodactyl with Brave Bird & Headlong Rush, which makes contact so it is boosted by Tough Claws as well. Honestly, it makes Aero one of the most frightening Megas in the game, one turn of Dragon Dance is all you need to wreck shop lol - and assuming you don't Mega you still have Rock Head brave birds flying around lol
Wild Charge with Terra Electric + Dragon Dance + Rock Head would go pretty damn hard to be fair. It would mean he could nail the Bulky waters that might otherwise withstand his damage!
if scald comes back i think i’ll start crying
Tears of joy? Or sadness ?
It is coming back
I'll be crying tears of happiness. Scald is actually my favorite move in the game. It's so unique as it's boiling water so it's a water move that burns!
I hope it isn't just Volcanion and Milotic that can learn it tbh.
@@mrpokemonfan44you lame
Man shuttup lmaoo. Cryin about how scald and toxic exist and then are perfectly fine when garg salt cures everything that doesnt run a niche item. Insane
Hopefully Scorching Sands returns as well.
Bc moltres needed it 😪
@@Cashmoneez You understand well.
Definitely not, burning moves are gone for good
No such luck.
@@artimist0315lol scald is back how do you feel now
Nevermind Grassy Glide coming back for Rillaboom…
Imagine Breloom with Grassy Glide.
Why breloom? Its 70 base power, right? So it isnt technician boosted and breelom has an attack that is barely higher than rillaboom's AND breloom cant set grass terrain on a switch.
Or is this a joke i am not getting?
@@Pablo_y_Parinacotait got nerfed to 60 bp
@@Pablo_y_Parinacota 70 BP? You must’ve missed the Memo…
They brought it down to 60, the threshold needed for boosted Technician.
@@Pablo_y_Parinacotait literally said it got nerfed down to 60 BP bruh
Oh, im dumb. Still therr is the posibility that rillaboom can not learn grassy glide this gen, maybe it will be able for Tapu Bullu now. That would at least be interesting since Bullu has a lot more weaknesses than Rillaboom and cam not learn Fake Out.
Wait 60 BP grassy glide? Oh god if technician works before the terrain boost, this 50% breloom usage boutta be wild
The fact that it hits harder than choice band rillaboom but without a choice band...
problem is you gotta have terrain set up for grassy glide to be priority so i don’t think it’ll be as good as you may think
So I tested it on showdown with trailblaze scizor. The terrain bonus goes BEFORE technician, so it wouldn’t actually be 60*1.5*1.3 = 117 BP, it would be 60*1.3 = 78 BP which is too strong for technician.
As far as I could find Technician does not take into account any base power modifiers
@@ThyN00bly maybe the sciz wasn’t technician honestly I could be dumb as fuck
Hoping for Scale Shot, would prevent garchomp from dropping to UU
Scale Shot gonna be huge on garchomp and also Baxcalibur
If scale shot returns in a hen with loaded dice then gen 9 might just be garchomps best gen yet
"I truly got my joy back"
Garchomp on seeing scale shot's return
Scale shot garchomp was the most stupid set this pokémon ever runned, it clearly deserves better than this gimmicky move. Hope it receives extreme speed instead, it's literally in its pokedex description
@artimist0315 I mean, with loaded dice garchomp might be great, will no longer have to rely on scarf and dice will make scale shot good physical dragon stab
Rillaboom looks very polite
Meteor beam was so fun to use eternatus. I want it back so badly
A bulky Tera Rock set with Meteor Beam, Cosmic Power, Recover and Toxic would be super fun. Maybe not good, but fun.
Meteor Beam Necrozma was also fun to use, imo
"But it has been 'weakened' to 60 base power"
Technician users: THE DAY IS MINE!
No, terrain boost is calculated before the game checks for damage altering abilities
@@autistic_potato1037Or you can run Quick Claw, albeit, it's pretty unreliable.
@@autistic_potato1037 Where did you get that information from? That feels wrong. It was my understanding that only moves with variable base power like grassy knot can lose their technician boost because it makes the move itself have more than 60 base power. Terrain boosts the power of moves similar to rain and sun. Wiki says from Gen 5 and onward, technician is no longer effected by modifiers, and terrain should count as a modifier.
@@cameronphenix2096yeah people are spreading misinformation. Since gen 5 tech doesnt care about bp modifiers just ones that are variable
Actually is 55 BP
If Ceruledge doesn't get poltergeist for some reason, then I'm gonna riot.
I have a feeling that even eith the nerf to 60 BP, Rillaboom will still ve hitting like a freaking double decker bus, just one going slightly slower than before.
Now. Breloom on the other hand.
Nooooo! You can't sweep my team with one pokemon!
Rillaboom:"hee hee grassy glide go brrr."
“How do we nerf intimidate?”
Give a Pokémon 135 base attack, defiant, and lash out. I’m not even sure how well krookadile eats that
I'm like 99.999% sure Scald'll be back and I praying every God on earth that I'm wrong
They could rebalance who gets it since I'm sure there is a reason SV had every move coded but not put into move pools
We saw Milotic use it in one of the trailers, so maybe.
All they need to do is lower the bp and burn chance. Scald does too much damage for the stall move that it is which allowed too many offensive Pokémon to run it. And 30% burn shouldn’t be more common on water type than fire type. Chilling water was the right step. I think if chilling water had a whirlpool effect it might have been a suitable replacement.
@@kevinstephenson3531 scald is not getting nerfed. It's either back or not back and I remember seeing confirmation of it coming back, tho it could be flawed.
@@stallsunguy3064 if its coming back it should be nerfed. That or some pokemon shouldnt be able to learn in at all.
The 2 other tms i want to comeback are triple axel and defog, triple axel so just mainly weavile can comeback a little bit and defog because there are really few ways to remove hazards in Ou
I hope Dragapult gets a good physical ghost move
It does not need a buff
i actually run tera blast ghost, it's really good but there's probably better uses for terastalization
@@wonderfulrose477in VGC it would be a nice buff but it would kinda ruin singles.
@@wonderfulrose477 It needs a good Physical Ghost move, the buff would be minor to VGC which is typically the official format for Pokemon Tournaments.
@@HallowedKeeper_If the buff would be minor for VGC, then it shouldn't get this buff because this would put it over the edge in singles.
We need Scorching Sands. I want to run it on my sun team with Palossand to dish out burns
Imagine mirror herb swagger into burning jealousy in doubles 😅
I do hope Weather Ball comes back as a TM. So that I don’t have to waste a Tera let’s say for example Tera Fire Venusaur with Tera Blast just to have Fire Coverage. Plus Weather Ball was a fun move to experiment with different Pokemon that was in Gen 8.
I’m begging for scald to comeback, we need it to stifle the HO that’s running rampant in the meta game
It will. We saw Milotic use it in one of the trailers.
@@MarshtompGames yeah but as a tm, I want my pex back
@@leftistdegeneratejs Might have to wait until December to get Scald back. As a TM, I'm not sure.
@@leftistdegeneratejsdisgusting. Absolutely abhorrent.
Bro boomburst goes hard.
Dual wingbeat would be nice to have back
That grimmsnarl pixel art is so cool
really love the spritework
Welp, Time for technician Breloom to learn grassy glide, since it’s 60 Bsp now.
Defiant lash out kingambit is gonna be horrifying
If the Isle of Armor tutor moves are coming back then that should mean Flip Turn will become more common. I don't know much about VGC but I'd imagine Corrosive Gas and Misty Explosion could also mix things up.
My gawd rillaboom sprite is all i ever needed
Bro that Grimmsnarl sprite is too good
It would be cool to see dual wing beat so Scyther gets a better technician STAB move
Girafarig increasing in usage even more after being able to control speed more than ever now
Raging Fury has left the chat
Safe to say that every IoA tutor will return
Attract & Double Team. Those moves would help real well for pokemon like Sableye
Poltergeist:(Laughs in National Dex Mega Banette)
I would love to see dragapult have access to poltergeist since its only other physical ghost move previously was a 2 turn move, and effectively rendered its ghost typing offensively obsolete.
Rillboom was ALWAYS good respectfully 🙏🏾
Grass types are eating again let's go!!!
I can't believe I'm cheering for the retun of grassy glide rillaboom but... finally, an urshifu counter in VGC
vgc has really become the "better of many evils" game recently with the hell that has been unleashed hasn't it (stares at the urshi-twins, fluttermane, and cocaine bear)
@@JennJurassic yeah, I think home metas are kind of too chaotic, especially when we didn't even get a full year with a regional dex
Meteor Beam just so we can see Glimmora go from spreading Toxic Spikes to nuking anything with a pulse.
Applin looks cool
I kinda want Synchronoise to come back as a tm, with terastalising running rampant having a move to potentially counter mirror matches could lead to the game being more interesting and might require more guess work and more strategy with Tera's in general
Expanding Force for Psychics and Rising Voltage for Electrics
Terrain Pulse might be good for some mons.
I think I just heard MoxieBoosted let out the most exasperated sigh.
Tbh, i hope we gonna get actually more new tutor moves
Really love the pixel updates. They’re so pretty. Much nicer than the 3D ones
I hope tsareena gets access to grassy glide again. I also hope triple axel comes back so tsareena and wevile can finally get into UU
That grimmsnarl sprite is sick
Defiant annilape with lash out sounds scary to me
so happy i decided to raise a perfect grooky now
That sprite is amazing
Pursuit coming back would be a huge change to the metagame.
Just makes Kingambit better 💀
Scorching sands is my favourite to come back. Triple axel was maybe a little too strong and ice spinner works well enough anyway. I want lash out to be back for Bisharp. To give a good stab with synergy to defiant.
My grassy glide arboliva about to pop off 😤
Ngl I really like these videos on comp changes and stuff
Even though Grassy Glide got nerfed, it still does a huge damage if you add on stab with grassy terrain effect
Also with Breloom add Technician to that
Rillaboom definitely has potential in ou, especially with some of the pokemon it threatens. With a Choice Band, Drain Punch is a guaranteed ohko on Kingambit unless King teras, Grassy Glide is a guaranteed 2hko on offensive utility Great Tusk, with almost a 20% chance to ohko outright without using tera, Nasty Plot Gholdengo is ohko'd by Knock Off, can OHKO Iron Valiant with tera grass, and threatens Ting-Lu and Hisuian Samurott.
I hope we get focus energy that way I can use my old Inteleon crit build
Rising voltage Alolan raichu better be making it's grand return. He deserves some viability.
I hope Skeledirge will get some of the new TMs
Im hoping it gets scorching sands
Those sprites are so cute ❤
I wish we got all of the Isle of Armor tutor moves. Or at least the ones people were actually using. Flip Turn and Dual Wingbeat would be nice. Not to mention that having moves only really be usable for half a generation is weird
Nvr liked his drum with him as an idle animation… much better if he were to pull it out for an attack and put it back under his hair.
Seeing the comments you will have to do a video about how technician and grassy glide interact in grass terrain. 😅
If only rillaboom had grassy glide for the world championships....
Toxic is coming back and people are hoping Garganacl will learn it
I don’t know that last Pokémon but its sprite is sick.
Houndstone might be solid sand rusher with this
Oh boy, toxic is back. This'll be interesting
Watch them give Grassy Glide to Bulu and not Rilla lmao
Bulu is not even in SV?
Golurk will be getting POLTERGEIST
imagine technician breloom with grassy glide
Imagine technician grassy glide
Grassy is back
can you imagine a defiant boosted lash out king gambit?
You have to take into consideration that Rillaboom MIGHT NOT learn Grassy Glide through TM. Just because they learned it in the past doesn’t mean they will have it now (looking at Weavile not having Throat Chop)
Grassy glide + technician perhaps
Dual Chop so I can put it on my shiny Gumshoos for no other reason than I just love such a random combo
Grassy Glide?
Tseerna...Queenly Majesty.
Weavile also gets to learn knock off again
I stopped caring about Pokemon PvP when they removed toxic. Its fun to see it getting a comeback
Toxic is back my dream has come true
Just gimme Coaching, Rising Voltage and Scorching Sands back
Obviously I along with everyone else is praying for the return of Happy Hour
lowkey wish power-up punch made a return
God i wish pokemon went back to 2D. These new sprites are so nice
Grassy glide can now be boosted by technician, so now that could be a 90 base power priority move 😮
Boosted by terrain stab and band. THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE
Yeah just calced it. Breloom with band and tech under grassy with glide has an 80% chance to ohko a marvel scale maxed defense milotic. Insane
I just want toxic to be slightly universal again.
It bugs me how Umbreon can’t use toxic(unless transferred) especially when it has/had a dex entry talking about having poisonous sweat
I hope Darkest Lariat returns as a tm!
they really took out these moves just to make sure ppl would buy the dlc huh?
i really want triple axel and mystical fire back as tms
I just hope dragapult get poltergeist this time around so we dont have to be stuck with phantom force. A man can dream.
High key hoping for skitter smack to come back
Mystical Fire please come back so Sylveon can rise again. PLEASE!!!!
It’s in the game for delphox, it’s a learn set issue not a not in the game issue
@@Enjinercraftsylveon lost mystical fire because the tm was removed. Delphox can learn it because it's their level up move.