Boost Your Internet Speed by Using a Wi-Fi Extender with a Cable
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- Many models of Wi-Fi Extender (sometimes called Wi-Fi Repeaters) can be used with a cable. The extender can then be configured as an Access Point (AP) which connects to your router/modem over Ethernet, not Wi-Fi. By doing this you can boost your network speeds significantly.
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So at the end of the day it's just to get the wifi signal as close to your devices as possible. No magical configuration using a wifi access point over Ethernet.
Powerline extenders are super convenient
Is there a stronger one I can get ? I have a disc with a blue light that doesn’t need power
Hi can I use a WiFi extender, hard wired with eithernet cable and not have it set up as another access point? To prevent switching password and WiFi’s
I have in living room my router and have weak WiFi in area of conservatory, other end of house but have Ethernet cable in conservatory direct from router in living room
my pc is upstair in my room and i need a enthrnet cable to connet but my roter is downstairs iss ther a way i could do the with out have to brake my walls
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If you need a wired connection from your PC (rather than wireless) then consider a power line adapter. If your PC has wireless then consider using an extender (without a wire) or Mesh networking. I have videos about the last two here on this channel.
HaHaHA, Gary... I do the same thing with 2 old routers. 1 upstairs and 1 in the detached garage with cables to both. there far enough apart and on different channels so my laptops and phone does connect better and are faster.. :-)
Thanks for the video Gary!
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Gary you are a diamond. Thank you for this very clear video about wifi extenders and how they work wired. It is what I have been wanting to do, but haven't been able to find a video that showed me that...until now. I am a new subscriber and will watch some more of your videos. Very happy subscriber🙂
Some basics for speeding up your wifi.
1. Get as many devices as possible cabled to the Router (via a switch if necessary). Less devices on wifi mean more of the wifi pie available for the remaining devices.
2. Despite MU-MIMO, as a rule, Wifi router/access points (I'll call them AP from now on) can only talk to one connected wifi device at a time. So if its talking to your phone, its not talking to your TV at the same time.
3. Wifi is half duplex (even Wifi6/802.11.AX ) So that means your wifi AP can either talk, or it can listen, it can't do both at the same time. It hides this and point 2 by chopping between devices as quick as it can. To give the illusion of doing lots of things at the same time.
4. if you have an extender connected to your router by Wifi, note points 2/3 above. Can you see that having strong wifi, doesn't mean you will get a lot of data through the repeater? So basically, your phone asks for data from the extender, this has to stop and listen to your request, then wait for the Router to go into "listen" mode and talk to it, all this reduces bandwidth and increases latency. So as Gary says, using a wire, means more data.
5. Routers are sold via the Snakeoil method. "AC 5300", makes you think you can connect at 5300? Nope, it means it has two 5GHz bands one 2.4Ghz, and they've added together the maximum theoretical link speeds to come up with 5300..... Think about it, if a Router could really transfer 5.3Gigabits why would it have one gigabit ports (1Gb) .
6. 1Gb ethernet is full duplex, so wired devices can talk and listen at the same time. And its not generally subject to interference.
7. Move your slowest wifi devices to a separate network if you can, as I have explained above, APs can't talk and listen at the same time, so if you have a slow wifi device asking for a lot of data, the AP will be stuck talking to that device and your other devices will have to wait. If your Router has a setting called "Airtime Fairness" switch it on. (It prevents one slow device hogging the wifi pie).
8. Remember 5.0GHz is much faster then 2.4GHz, but think of them like this, 5. is a great big wide hosepipe that's 12 inches wide but only 20 feet long, if you turn the tap on it will flow a hell of a lot of water a short distance, 2.4 is a long thin hosepipe that's one inch wide and 50 feet long, it will flow much less water, but will take it a longer distance. Now imagine that your data is water.
Specifics
2.4Ghz, set to 20Mhz channel width, dont be tempted by 40Mhz ..... Channels 1, 6 and 11 are the best channels to use. google is your friend if you want to know why.
5.0Ghz, set to 80Mhz channel width and enable DFS, (if you live near an airport, this might not work). Now select channels as follows, 36, and 149....
If your wifi has a "Band steering mode" turn that on, it will automatically steer devices that need a lot of data to 5.0 and slow devices to 2.4
If you have a few APs, adjust their power, if your APs and devices support Fast Roaming, they should automatically roam to the best AP and as you walk around your home seamlessly change APs. If you have multiple APs, it makes sense to turn the wifi signal strength down, so they aren't competing with each and introducing interference.
Good luck
the phones can latch onto an existing wifi and refuse to switch to the extender even when a better access point is available. would love to hear more about wifi steering and whether it helps in practice.
love your content as always
If your wifi access points support "Fast Roaming", (also known as 802.11k/r/v ) your devices will "roam" to the AP with the strongest signal. This works on my home network with 4x Access points and a number of Wifi Clients.
@Octavio Lopez If your APs support fast roaming this will not happen and I am not a fan of Mesh Networks, at the very least a small Unify Network would be better with Controller and two APs, all wifi clients will "roam" seamlessly to the AP with strongest Wifi signal and with Band Steering enabled, devices that need a lot of bandwidth will roam to 5GHz and those that don't will roam to 2.4Ghz, as you walk away from the network, even high bandwidth devices will roam to 2.4 to try and retain signal.
I have a wifi extender and powerline combo, solves all my internet issues on multiple devices in the house.
a lot of powerline extenders actualy cause a lot interverence. your powerlines are not shielded in any way and the cables start acting as antenna's. so your wifi is worse and the neighbours wifi too. and any other air connection like bluetooth and gsm/3g/4g/5g or whatever. powerline devices are the worst thing to use. btw about 90% of them cause interverence.
@Octavio Lopez or stability 😏
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I don't think they are still running "wifi" when it is over the power line.
It might come out the other end as wifi, but what they use to talk between the power lines might not be wifi.
@@porcorosso4330 actualy the way the powerline makes the connection can and on cheap devices will make the wireing act like a antenna. They are not made to send over the air but because of bad insulation and bad parts they do send interferance into the air. I am a ham opperator. There is a plan here in NL inplace that forced the main internet providers to change and call back powerline devices they provided to customers. The sad thing is that most don't know and/or care as long as a product work for them. It's just like with solar pannels. A lot of the converters are actualy sending out interferance into the airways. Any electrical product can "send" if they design it incorrectly. Your powerline that comes into your house has 50hrz or 60hrz as basis anyway. Depending on where you live. An simpel transmitter is just a few simpel parts. Even a wrong cable length could start (if not isolated enough) start to "send" in the air. I tried to keep the terms and information on a basic level. But that is the jist of it. Bad design (powerlind device) and connect that to a long wire (your electrical wireing in your home) and you create something that sends interferance. And that can actualy interfere with your own wifi, bluetooth and mobile phone. Or other products that use radio waves.
@@porcorosso4330 so i am not talking about any wifi connection.
For some reason when I hardwire my extender (tplink ac750) with the ethernet cable, I start losing connection and or everything gets slow.
Same issue i am facing
Is it possible to have the wire going from the device to the extender instead?
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Gary, very informative and well explained video.
Just one question ... I use TPLINK products and they use a app called Tether. Would you know if I can just using that app - switch the mode from range extender to AP?
In other words, I want to keep all the login information the same - Just switch the mode.
Currently I'm using the extender in Wi-Fi mode, and let's supporting 5 security cams (Wyze). I'm trying to avoid hitting the reset button and starting all over again, I just want to switch the operation mode.
Really appreciate your thoughts on this!
Thanks - Rick
Did you ever figure this out?
Thanks for explaining the ethernet cable. I haven’t found any other site that was able to explain it as effectively.
Are those router/AP combo sold online any better than the cheaper WiFi extenders with an ethernet port? Our wireless extender sucks big time, connection constantly drops.
So for someone that wants to use ethernet cable on console. This is pointless for me when the cable either way would have to be a 50 ft cable because the internet box thing is upstairs . Id be better off to just run it into my console
Thanks for the clear explanation , I have just purchased one that I want to take down the bottom of my garden via a 50m ethernet cable, I have power, hope this works, thanks again
Glad it helped.
I just use Ubiquity APs with cable (Cat6). Annoying to make it wife friendly but it sure as hell is the best way! I can still mesh to another AP if I want one in the garage, where I can´t use cable.
Unfi APs are a great entry level solution to strong stable wifi all around your property.
can i use that ethernet port from the extender to my computer?
Ah! I think this is what I’m looking for. My garage has very weak Wi-Fi signal. Perhaps I can run an Ethernet cable through it and use this extended/access point. Thank you for the vid.
but which ones have enternet ports 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Am I still getting internet wirelessly through my modem?
I don't know, are you? 🤷♂️
@@GaryExplains lol, no I mean if the Ethernet is connected from the modem to the extender are you still able to get wifi internet through the modem still?
Since the extender has now become the access point, is the modem still giving wifi internet in its vicinity?
Yes, nothing changes on the modem when you connect the extender or any other networking equipment.
_cries in portless WiFi extender_
I'm wondering if the Cable can be plugged into the Ethernet Port on your Motherboard ? Or if it has to be plugged into the Router ?
Great video, very straight forward and helpful!
that 12345678 password lmao XD
Why "lmao", I am not going to use a real password in a public video.
... hello, sir. kk - so, i am a technological numb-skull, so please don't giggle at me (i know this is likely gonna be hard for you NOT to do). ... so, i live in an apartment complex and have no other options for internet than THEIR wi-fi - and it is a complete and utter nightmare! i believe it is part of their DISH satellite service. - can/will a booster help me get better strength in my apartment? ... if this is a complete and utter rediculous question - im sorry - as i already admitted that i am a technological numb-skull - what can I say 🤷🤷🤷 thank you much for your time ...
thx man you helped alot
Your tutorial is excellent. I needed 5 minutes to install the access point with Eathernet cable. Your tutorial was the 3rd in line I watched and the only who worked. Very helpful! Thanks!
thanks for the video but i want to ask something, i connect the main router using WLN to the ethernet port and i connect the second router to the ethernet port using the LAN, then i should setup the bridge mode, is this correct or i also have to connect the main router to another ethernet port using the LAN ?
I have a Linksys extender and the signal is only good whereas my routers signal is excellent. If I connect a device to the extender the wifi speed is super slow. Money thrown away unless I'm doing something wrong?
Ha Ha, Ethernet Cable, Ethernet Connector. There will be comments from the networking gods. Hint its not an RJ45 connector either.
With your accent, Tenda just sounds like you’re trying to say Tinder.
And?
@@GaryExplains It’s just funny. Thanks for the video!
can you connect a mobile phone to the router so the mobile phones is the modem
You can use a break out usb ethernet adapter and tether if thats what you're asking yes
@@dutchdykefinger thanks I think so!! how do you plug that into the the router? I thought you would need the ethernet port? I wanted to use the phone as a modem and plug it into a Wi-Fi router. so I just plug it into the USB port on the router ? what then go into the menu and change something in the menu or not?
I don't have any physical line at home so that's the anyway I can get onto the internet
Access point setting is the most important information in this video. If you do not enable it after connecting your ethernet cable, your wifi router will not work
I changed my wifi operator, and with my new operator i got a new router as well. I already have wireless extender. I m thinking of using the old router as ap. Should I use ethernet to connect or go wireless. Sorry for bad English it's my 2nd language
We have a Comfast wifi repeater that is hardwired to the main house, that gets us internet out in the garage, we have now used a cable to hardware the comfast wifi repeater to a netgear wifi repeater 😅 in a cottage but not working ?
I just have one question, does the ethernet port on the wifi extender make your wifi faster?
But if you can connect a cable to the extender, why not just connect the cable to your device... I'm not sure this was showing what I needed to know. I am looking for a way to connect the extender to the network then plug a Ethernet cable into the extender and a PS5 or desktop computer to strengthen the connection somewhat "hardwired"
How will you connect a cable to a smartphone?
Do I plug the cable into the lan or wan port my repeater has both
so it basically becomes a mini router but has a further signal?
It is when you are connect with full wifi connection and nothing happens all tabs in the browser just sitting waiting and the only way to get it working again is a reboot.
Please do video about hacking iphone 13
Can you connect your tv lo the extenders ethernet cable?
hey gary i want a wifi extender that i can connect via ethernet cable may u please give me ur recommendations on what to buy?
HELP! Is that a way to conect this device trhough CABLE and keep the same SSID? I would like to set a cable to feed this device, but i don't want to create another WIFI network. Is it possible?
Yes, of course, just configure it exactly as you state. However you should note that you are creating another Wi-fi network even if the SSID is the same, see th-cam.com/video/0Z-C3P6F-KY/w-d-xo.html
What is the Brand and Model, you used in this video?
thanks for sharing this tips. to speed up the internet extender. god bless 🙏❤️
In my previous home (56 sm), I connected a WiFi6 extender to my OnePlus 6T. I then ran the Ethernet cable out to my 8-port hub, out to all my tech. My phone was my internet.
Thanks a lot Gary, now everyone knows my password ☹️
🙏 thank you Sir nice video explaining well about repeater 👍👌🙂
I have an old Apple airport express and I use it in that exact way. It only has 5, but it is still plenty fast.
could this work as a portable solution say at work? I get poor signal in my building, could i throw my tp link box in a plug next to my desk, and then have it amplify a hotspot from my phone (sitting in the window or something for better signal)?
Your IT department might have something to say to you if you do ;)
Thanks for this video but I am unclear as to how I reprogram my existing extender to be on cable connection vs wifi.
That depends on the make/model. But in general the extender has a web interface that allows you to change the mode. What make/model is it?
Problem I found after investigating a wired extender is they don't specify there can be sent a direct signal through ethernet. Most only hook up a line out to tv etc.
Would have been nice to post actual products with a direct hookup from the router
So funny, I went to a cpu store and told them I wanted a wifi extender BUT one that was WIRED IN with ethernet. I was told I needed an access point.
Technically they were correct. But many Wi-Fi extenders have a wired connection as well and then you need to configure them as an AP, as I show in the video.
I bought a wifi extender but I can't connect it to my source router with a cable. I have to connect this extender with the router over wifi which does not give stable connection. What are the extenders with a cable called exactly?
You need to connect it via wifi like you mentioned & then set up the access point or extend your router signal using the extender.
My best advice is to look up w.e manufacture has made your device & then go on their website to set it up.
after that you’ll connect your extender to your pc / laptop using the ethernet cable.
Gary, your video was exactly what I was searching for so thank you. I do have a further question for you. My router is on the first floor and my office PC is on the bottom floor. I have an ethernet line from my router to my PC and I am getting great speed (almost what I'm paying for). Can I plug an ethernet splitter to my ethernet line from the router and then use the splitter to connect my PC and my Tp-link extender using two short ethernet cords? Will doing so cause my PC to lose speed? Will the connected extender provide increased speed to the wireless devices I have on the bottom floor?
Can I connect wifi extender to another wifi extender? so that I can spread the wifi further or is it only from router to extender?
That is called a mesh network, I have a separate video about that.
Cool vid as always. I'd be interested to hear your take on powerline ethernet for those of us who cant run cables. In my case a rented house share with the router in someone elses room. The wifi is a bit weak on the top floor.
Same here
How do you test the connectivity percent?
This is definitely a clickbait! It won't magically increase your internet speed. To get more speed, you need to give more money to your ISP!
I think it applies to people that are using wireless extenders
you need to adjust the content
Signal strength is not always a reliable indicator of speed so I doubt you will get 4x faster, maybe double at most.
What is the product
It is just a standard Wi-Fi extender, this one is from Tenda, but there are many brands.
That is totally a misconception, wrong, outright dead wrong, you are not increasing the speed of your signal, You're increasing The connectivity, and that is all.
It would have been good if you watched the whole video.
Oh, I did watch the entire video, apparently I missed something, I'll have to rewatch it. Regardless The title of the video stated to "boost your speed of the internet" , that is NOT what you're doing, Not by a long shot. There are many manufacturers selling junk with the claim that their product will increase the speed of your internet, Total misconception/ lies from every one of them, because that's impossible.
If you are connected to the Internet via a WiFi extender then your local network will likely have a lower speed than your internet connection. By resolving the local speed issue you will access the internet faster. That is what most people worry about and/or observe. "Why is the internet so slow" is something I hear a lot. Not why is my local network slow? When in fact that is the problem. You did miss something as I said clearly in the video that this is about end to end and it can't change the speed of your connection from your provider.
I don’t get it, Access Points are the way to go. I don’t even understand why wifi boosters/extenders are a thing. Yes, you have to pull an ethernet cable, not really hard to do...
You don't get it because for you putting in an Ethernet cable isn't hard. But not everyone is like you.
100% agree. Some people choose convenience over fast speed, to each their own. What bothers me, is walking into a electronic store, and sales guys telling me boosters are the best. One 18 year old douche told me, with access points the signals will collide and give you the worse connection. 100% balony, but 90% of the public buys their crap story.
Well, how a store representative tries to sell you WiFi stuff has nothing to do with me or this video! 👍
When I moved into my present 1930's house I spent days running ethernet to anywhere I thought might be uselful. 15 years later, surprise, surprise, what with SKY tele boxes going wifi, IOT etc its now either powerline, extenders and so on or start ripping down wallboard and prising up floorboards. Thanks Gary and any idea when I'll be able to buy an enormous parabolic dish on a mast above my house or maybe a gamma ray wifi network, I'm sure my wife won't mind getting a suntan in December!
Can we skip the router and connect the lan cable directly between internet and the extender?
That depends what type of device you have from your internet service provider. Does it have multiple Ethernet ports?
@@GaryExplainsplease tell me how to contact you
Simple video, simple is good
Hey, I'm just curious, can we just use our old phone as WiFi extender with the WiFi tethering function ?
If yes, people can save quite a lot of money
Using a phone as a hotspot usually means your using your mobile data as the source, (ie. 4G), I doubt it can be used as a WiFi extender unless you can first use something to simulate a mobile data connection.
@@stevetobias4890
I think he means the phone will use a USB Ethernet adaptor and configured as a access point.
Since it is a old phone, I am guessing it doesn't have a sim card.
what happens if u use a used ethernet cable
If the cable works and is in good condition, there will be no difference between a new cable and a used one.
Did you Link the extender you used??
It is just a plain TP-Link extender. These aren't hard to find.
I appreciate the super fast intro and that you fully explained how this works. Thanks!
Can i connect my ap to my lan port on the wall or it only works connected to the modem?
If the lan port on the wall is connected to your router (even via another switch) then you can use it.
@@GaryExplains thanks for the fast anwer, that’s awesome.
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Your internet speed is determined by your ISP and not what you install between your router and/or WiFi extender. It's only your LAN's speed that should improve somewhat by doing so..
The only reason your Internet Speed may seem to be faster by installing an ethernet cable between your router and computer, and/or extender is because cable is faster than WiFi and should only improve your LAN connectivity.
There are a few other setup mods you can do on your WiFi or ethernet adapter that may improve what you perceive to be faster internet, but is governed by congestion and available bandwidth.. but your ISP is still KING..!!
LOL. I love it when people comment without actually watching the video... Oh, wait, no I don't. Trying watching from 04:33
@@GaryExplains I quit half way through due to lack of further interest. After 30+ years in corporate IT, I can recognise inaccurate information when I see it. It's clickbait for amateur enthusiasts.. You should realise IT Pro's also watch your channel and recognise it quite easily..
Ah, so a "pro" that only watches half of the material, very "pro" of you. 😜 BTW there was nothing inaccurate in the first half.
@@GaryExplains It's not worth debating.. You go and have yourself a merry Christmas.. 🤣
Thanks, and you too. 🌟
What I'd really like to see is some widely standardised Raspberry Pi Network system that can combine a neighbourhoods internet connections to provide extremely high speeds and those in the neighbourhood that need higher speeds at any specific times would get the full capacity available without needing to pay thousands for ultra high speed internet connectivity.
Pi's have really limited bandwidth, the first nodes could likely be easily overloaded.
Thanks for the video mate - an interesting concept but also a challenging one in respect to running an Ethernet cable all the way from one end of our house to the opposite end of the house. Actually the same basic concept ended up being the ultimate solution to our TV Wi-Fi communications problem. We have DSL. After repeated problems, our service provider's technician ran a coax cable from the modem to all of our TVs. Problem solved (the downside being we now have holes in walls with a cable strung through them). The "real" solution would be establishing a protocol much better than radio waves.
5:32 the diagram is a bit confusing. Is the 23% connection speed due to your phone connecting to the repeater in the kitchen, or the router in the other room? Wouldn't plugging the repeater in the middle room closer to the router improve the speed?
That is why I made a whole separate video and suggested you watch it.
Look at the diagram again... the 23% is the phone connecting to the main router in the office (on the other side of the house) - the 90% is with an Access Point in the kitchen.
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@@wherearemytesticles WiFi Starter? Prodigy? Err... probably? Ok, I am sorry 😅
I got an Orbi RBK20 bundle to setup a mesh network. But even with this relatively expensive router, the 5 GHz signal just couldn't penetrate the thick brick and concrete walls that we use in Indian homes. I finally had to resort to a wired connection between the router and satellite.
Is it possible to connect the extender to my wifi wirelessly, then with an Ethernet cord, connect the extender to my PC? My PC can’t use wireless connections and I need to move my pc to another room
Hey did u mange yo do it?
U guys all living in mansions wtf
He said rooter LOL
Indeed I said router the correct way. How do you pronounce routine?
@@GaryExplains English is a funny language! 😂
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I didn't ask how you pronounced router, I asked how you pronounce routine. 🤦♂️
@@GaryExplains This can go on all day, eg : Cow & Mow !!!!
Hi Gary. If I use an ethernet cable from my extender into my pc. Can my missus still access the router or extender by wi-fi using her laptop? i.e. does it stop the extender transmitting wirelessly? Does the router still transmit to my wife's laptop?
Why would you want to connect to the extender via a cable from your PC?
@@GaryExplains Would it speed the internet up? The download speed has dropped since moving router further away
But if you connect to the extender via a cable, the extender still needs to communicate with your main router over Wi-Fi, so the whole "cable from PC" is a red herring. Did you watch my video on how Wi-Fi Extenders really work? th-cam.com/video/0Z-C3P6F-KY/w-d-xo.html
@@GaryExplains OK thanks Gary - I've subscribed by the way. Gary how do i speed my downloading up?
Unfortunately that is an impossible question for me to answer as I know nothing about your setup.
Gary keeps finding new ways to complicate such simple concepts !!!
Oh! Really? That sounds bad. What did I do to make it more complicated?
@@GaryExplains i mean there was no need of so much commentary. I believe your time and energy might be better utilised on more technical stuff that you have covered in the past. Just a suggestion.
Keep 'em coming !!
Several people asked for this video, so I made it. People all have different levels of expertise. For some people all that commentary is useful.
@@GaryExplains cool cool cool cool cool cool cool ....... 😄
@@GaryExplains I found it useful, I'm definitely going to do it since some rooms in my house barely get a signal.
Great video. But i don't think anybody didn't had this idea. Eveone knows wires are faster
Actually, lots of people requested this very video. So... I made it.
How about using thunderbolt port instead of Ethernet for the WiFi extender?
So we don't need to use power adapter, as it also transfer power.
Has that one been created ?
Please send link if it exists
Thunderbolt is limited to 3 meters if using copper. If using optical fibres it works up to 200m but it is really expensive. What you really want is power over ethernet. That can be with cable length up to 100m.
That would make zero sense, you can already buy 10Gbe ethernet switches, and its easy to Link Aggregate them. (So 6x10Gbe cables= 6x10Gbe of available bandwidth).
And even then you have to remember that Wifi struggles to reach 1Gb of actual data transfer, so why would you want 40Gb?
Even with a 1.25Gbps link speed, I can transfer only 700MBps reliably.
Anyone know if this would also work over powerline? I have a tplink av600 pair (tl-pa4010 to tl-wpa4220)?
You can use Powerline to get a cable in another room and then connect that cable to an extender in AP mode. However the powerline part of the chain will limit your overall bandwidth.
Is there anyway to use a extender as a hard wired port? I have a security system that needs a hard wired line to be able to use the app. But I had to put it upstairs and my router is downstairs
Some extenders have two Ethernet ports.
Instructions unclear
I have a cable directly to the router