My church used to use eDrums(sounded great, but drummers hated them), but they did not use the in-module sounds, they would run it through addictive drums and could use any samples they wanted.
I do love a electric drum kit at our church because you can literally change the volume in a split second. I’m our church drummer and I thank you so much for the awesome videos because a lot things you do while playing I have incorporated in my playing style at my church on our drums.
While they are very effective for sound control. Most drummers will go for a acoustic kit all day long. Our church uses a enclosed drum cage with mics. It gives the sound person tons of control on the volume. Not the most cost efficient way but best quality of sound in my opinion!
I'm low key mad you cut off her testimony! I love to hear a good miracle haha I play a Roland TD30 kit at my church. It does well, I don't like relying on power to play. Other than that it gets the job done. An acoustic kit would be so much better, you can really feel the music. Great content as usual! Thanks!
Hey Daniel. Would you be willing to do a video on how your FOH techs mixed your e kit and how their approach was different/similar to acoustic kits? It is really hard to find a video on this subject and wondered if you'd be willing to cover it. I appreciate it.
My church uses a TD50KV and personally own a TD17 and a TD20 with Superior Drummer 3 and GetGoodDrums I have been playing on the TD50 since it launched and while the out-of-the-box sounds may not mix well initially before tweaks - I strongly urge church drummers to, instead of quickly dismissing the on board sounds and opting for VSTs, explore stacking different combination of sounds together on the drum module to produce a sound that is uniquely yours. You'd be surprise how good they sound in the final mix (broadcast or in-house).
When I stream on twitch, I use a TD-12 (functionally the same as a TD17 I believe) and I have to agree with you. Some EQing and volume mixing/panning makes it sound pretty much just as good as any VSTs, but with no worries of a computer crashing. The main reason why I don't use GGD (even though I own a couple libraries) is because the hi hats just aren't as responsive.
My church used to use (over 10 years ago) a (?) Roland V-7 drum set or there abouts. Now we have a Yamaha. I like it waaayyyy better except the sound engineer decided to de-tune all the toms so they match the EQ in the room. I came back after being out from arm surgery & when I played them the heads were so loose I nearly put a hole through them! The lesson here is NEVER loosen your drum heads to the point they buckle when played. I recommend using a tuner to set the levels.
I use a roland electric kit every sunday and it has been awesome! I do recommend uplloading youre own samples but the one i use has a ton of settings such as mic position and pitch. They have it routed as single channels for each tom, kick, snare, cymbals, so I can adjust the level of everything in my ears!
I'm a drummer here in our church in Macau, China. We've been using an acoustic kit before but they always complain about the noise because the location of our church is an industrial building and had no choice but to change to electric kit. Since then, I'm exploring the kit to its full extent, especially with IEMs.
Whatever you end up liking will sound better for them to use so I would change the sounds and they can adjust minor things that wouldn't take more than a few seconds.
I bought my first electric kit this summer....I don't think I'll ever be an e kit guy, but I wanted something a little more realistic than drum pads for home practice and inspiration ( although I don't play it a ton 😂 maybe this winter when I have more time ) ....they're not as bad as I thought ( especially the snare and kick ), but the cymbal pads and hihat pedal can't keep up with me. I like thin long nylon tip sticks.....Questloves ( I wish they made nylon tip ), Steve Gadds and the original red Dave Weckl sticks....Pro Mark 727 Japanese oaks....and lately I've been using...Vater 7a nylon tip during church....
would be nice to hear TD-27KV2 with a band in live performance. Our church is thinking of to e drums but i see some videos saying it's not loud enough when played w/ a full band.
Have used various Roland models over the years as technology evolved - Strictly acoustic these days - At various times I would use an acoustic cymbal set up with them - Never really got what I wanted out of the electronic models but I did use them as well when necessary - When I was behind the Roland's, I would strictly use Ahead Signature Drumsticks - Never used wood sticks - I just preferred the feel, vibration dampening, etc. and they were a solid fit for playing electronic kits... \m/
I have been watching your videos for a couple of years and I didn't know you were in St. Louis, I am too and would love to see you in person sometime. I am a church drummer, but nowhere near your level! I always watch your playing when learning a new song! What church do you go to/ play at??
Regarding the banding, it probably has something to do with frame rate and shutter speed in relation to lighting. I have a similar issue with lights in our sanctuary. Super annoying to deal with.
Thank you for the video, this is the first time I saw hi-hats without lower symbol. We use Roland TD 50 in our church they are good, but nothing like an acostic set! I feel like the dynamic range of electronic drums is so limited. Anyways thanks for the video, I would love to try out those drum sticks! LOL
After playing an electric kit at some services in the past, I think one of the hurdles was getting the sound out. It seems as if it would be easy but I think it takes a bit more thought and time as the output is the whole kit not all the separate drums (the mix has to be right at the drum module). Although, the kit I was playing was much older and more basic.
It depends on the kit. With the Alesis Strike Pro & Special Edition, the module outputs the snare, hi-hat, kick, and puts out L/R crash and L/R Tom signals. More control there.
I'm using the old TD-11 in my church but I was able to output them separately to our digital mixer (Soundcraft UI24r). It's also possible on any digital mixer that can be connected to DAW via USB cable. It was an easy setup since our mixer is on stage next to my A2E kit. If your mixer is FOH then it might be difficult but still possible (using the powered usb cable extender). The mix sounds so much better, gluer!
Good day brother, that machine you had that was next to the HH while in service, I think you turned a knob. I’m not sure if you ever done a review on that, if you have, can you share with me the link to that video? If you haven’t, do you mind doing a review on it? I’m new to the drum world, my dad bought me the Roland TD 17
Ah, nice! eDrums are so versatile. I really got to love those. I came from metal/rock and since I checked out a low priced kit with EZDrummer2 ... Booom! Awesome! I now use the Alesis/Millenium style low-priced pads and the eDRUMin10 trigger2MIDI interfaces by Audiofront. Some LEMON cymbals ... Yeah!
You have that banding due to your shutter speed being too high under those lights. Try to change shutter speed to less than 180. I’m also a drummer and contemplating switching to electric. Just a big jump lol
@@DanielBernard this might sound odd- I’ll try to explain it the easiest. Idk what mode you shoot in, automatic, manual, etc I shoot all sorts of Things from weddings to sports, etc. Different fps for different feels but my settings are typically 30p 100M. Shooting in 4K 95% of time. But anytime I get under a certain type of light, usually fluorescent, I gotta find that happy medium between my ISO, f/stop and shutter. But with me shooting in a higher fps it’s still smooth when it comes to motion, no a lot of motion blur. (Speaking in terms of basketball and baseball) Next time you’re noticing that in the church try to bring that shutter down and if it’s getting too “exposed” lower your ISO to get some darker attributes. I find it a balancing act but it’s saved my neck a lot with weddings lol.
@@DanielBernard If we are talking about the same thing I have some examples I’ll DM you on IG. I’m referring to the banding lines that appear horizontally across the screen under certain lights when I’m recording.
Only benefit I've seen with electric drums is noise, almost no noise on stage, but the samples sound okay-ish and other times not good (looking at you Roland).
Daniel how do u deal with being nervous at like big events (youth rallys or playing in a huge arena/ stadium.) Because im a beginner and about to become a intermediate. And I want some tips to deal with anxiety. So i dont mess up and play the drums like you do.
You got best sound you could get with those drums. Well played, just not a fan of the electrics. I look at it as a necessary evil for many church drummers.
DUDE! Those digital hi-hats looks amazing. I’ve got the Roland VAD503 kit, that I use for teaching drum lessons. It’s the same TD27 like yours but bigger shells. I gotta say: the e-drums have come a LONG way in recent years. I really love my Roland kit. You HAVE to check out @theedrumworkshop. He makes after-market kits for edrums, using acoustic drum samples. They are killer. Sound so much better than the stock sounds.
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My church used to use eDrums(sounded great, but drummers hated them), but they did not use the in-module sounds, they would run it through addictive drums and could use any samples they wanted.
I do love a electric drum kit at our church because you can literally change the volume in a split second. I’m our church drummer and I thank you so much for the awesome videos because a lot things you do while playing I have incorporated in my playing style at my church on our drums.
While they are very effective for sound control. Most drummers will go for a acoustic kit all day long. Our church uses a enclosed drum cage with mics. It gives the sound person tons of control on the volume. Not the most cost efficient way but best quality of sound in my opinion!
Roland is great for church day. And a productive setup! Hope you had a great show.
RolandisGreatForChurChday.Anda
ProduCtiv Setup!
HopryouhadaGreaShow.
Amen Brother! God Bless!
AmenBrOther!GodBless!
The Finesse are game changers!!!!
TheFinesseareGameChangers!!!!
I'm low key mad you cut off her testimony! I love to hear a good miracle haha
I play a Roland TD30 kit at my church. It does well, I don't like relying on power to play. Other than that it gets the job done. An acoustic kit would be so much better, you can really feel the music. Great content as usual! Thanks!
Love the handle . Drumm on . Very cool
Hey Daniel. Would you be willing to do a video on how your FOH techs mixed your e kit and how their approach was different/similar to acoustic kits? It is really hard to find a video on this subject and wondered if you'd be willing to cover it. I appreciate it.
My church uses a TD50KV and personally own a TD17 and a TD20 with Superior Drummer 3 and GetGoodDrums
I have been playing on the TD50 since it launched and while the out-of-the-box sounds may not mix well initially before tweaks - I strongly urge church drummers to, instead of quickly dismissing the on board sounds and opting for VSTs, explore stacking different combination of sounds together on the drum module to produce a sound that is uniquely yours.
You'd be surprise how good they sound in the final mix (broadcast or in-house).
When I stream on twitch, I use a TD-12 (functionally the same as a TD17 I believe) and I have to agree with you. Some EQing and volume mixing/panning makes it sound pretty much just as good as any VSTs, but with no worries of a computer crashing. The main reason why I don't use GGD (even though I own a couple libraries) is because the hi hats just aren't as responsive.
Nice video, the thing about the chair stack is so true! 😂
NiceVideo,ThetihnigaboutTheChair
StackisSotrue!
Another great video! 🔥
AnOTherGreatVideo!
My church used to use (over 10 years ago) a (?) Roland V-7 drum set or there abouts. Now we have a Yamaha. I like it waaayyyy better except the sound engineer decided to de-tune all the toms so they match the EQ in the room. I came back after being out from arm surgery & when I played them the heads were so loose I nearly put a hole through them! The lesson here is NEVER loosen your drum heads to the point they buckle when played. I recommend using a tuner to set the levels.
You are a blessing.!
YouareaBlessint.!
We have an TD-50 at our church. It’s a really good kit, love Rolland electric drums!
Nice drumming man
WOW! I’d like to see you use the Steven Slate Pearl Mimic drum module. It’s making its rounds through churches now and it sounds amazing!
I use a roland electric kit every sunday and it has been awesome! I do recommend uplloading youre own samples but the one i use has a ton of settings such as mic position and pitch. They have it routed as single channels for each tom, kick, snare, cymbals, so I can adjust the level of everything in my ears!
I'm a drummer here in our church in Macau, China. We've been using an acoustic kit before but they always complain about the noise because the location of our church is an industrial building and had no choice but to change to electric kit. Since then, I'm exploring the kit to its full extent, especially with IEMs.
JA1 macau?
Whatever you end up liking will sound better for them to use so I would change the sounds and they can adjust minor things that wouldn't take more than a few seconds.
I bought my first electric kit this summer....I don't think I'll ever be an e kit guy, but I wanted something a little more realistic than drum pads for home practice and inspiration ( although I don't play it a ton 😂 maybe this winter when I have more time ) ....they're not as bad as I thought ( especially the snare and kick ), but the cymbal pads and hihat pedal can't keep up with me.
I like thin long nylon tip sticks.....Questloves ( I wish they made nylon tip ), Steve Gadds and the original red Dave Weckl sticks....Pro Mark 727 Japanese oaks....and lately I've been using...Vater 7a nylon tip during church....
What kind did u buy
I play ahead 7a max on my Roland VAD 706 kit. Love the aluminum forgiveness on ekits. I play Vic Firth maple 5a on my acoustic sets.
I've never thought of that before. I seen some people play on those.
would be nice to hear TD-27KV2 with a band in live performance. Our church is thinking of to e drums but i see some videos saying it's not loud enough when played w/ a full band.
Have used various Roland models over the years as technology evolved - Strictly acoustic these days - At various times I would use an acoustic cymbal set up with them - Never really got what I wanted out of the electronic models but I did use them as well when necessary - When I was behind the Roland's, I would strictly use Ahead Signature Drumsticks - Never used wood sticks - I just preferred the feel, vibration dampening, etc. and they were a solid fit for playing electronic kits... \m/
Great improvisation! 👍
Love your drumming skills.
LoveYourDrummingSklills.
Can’t wait to tune in! 🎉
I have been watching your videos for a couple of years and I didn't know you were in St. Louis, I am too and would love to see you in person sometime. I am a church drummer, but nowhere near your level! I always watch your playing when learning a new song! What church do you go to/ play at??
Regarding the banding, it probably has something to do with frame rate and shutter speed in relation to lighting. I have a similar issue with lights in our sanctuary. Super annoying to deal with.
Dude those digital hi-hats are a game changer!
They are not
Thank you for the video, this is the first time I saw hi-hats without lower symbol. We use Roland TD 50 in our church they are good, but nothing like an acostic set! I feel like the dynamic range of electronic drums is so limited. Anyways thanks for the video, I would love to try out those drum sticks! LOL
love it bro!!
After playing an electric kit at some services in the past, I think one of the hurdles was getting the sound out. It seems as if it would be easy but I think it takes a bit more thought and time as the output is the whole kit not all the separate drums (the mix has to be right at the drum module). Although, the kit I was playing was much older and more basic.
Yeah newer modules have outputs for each drum. Search up the TD-50!
It depends on the kit. With the Alesis Strike Pro & Special Edition, the module outputs the snare, hi-hat, kick, and puts out L/R crash and L/R Tom signals. More control there.
I'm using the old TD-11 in my church but I was able to output them separately to our digital mixer (Soundcraft UI24r). It's also possible on any digital mixer that can be connected to DAW via USB cable. It was an easy setup since our mixer is on stage next to my A2E kit. If your mixer is FOH then it might be difficult but still possible (using the powered usb cable extender). The mix sounds so much better, gluer!
Any links to the actual service. Would love to hear the house mix and check out the entire service.
Good day brother, that machine you had that was next to the HH while in service, I think you turned a knob. I’m not sure if you ever done a review on that, if you have, can you share with me the link to that video? If you haven’t, do you mind doing a review on it? I’m new to the drum world, my dad bought me the Roland TD 17
you need to use sticks with plastic tips with mesh heads on electric drums
Promark🤟🏽🖤💛
Yessir!
Hahaha we've got like a legendary plastic chair that has been in the church for more than a decade 😂😂😂
Ah, nice!
eDrums are so versatile.
I really got to love those.
I came from metal/rock and since I checked out a low priced kit with EZDrummer2 ... Booom! Awesome!
I now use the Alesis/Millenium style low-priced pads and the eDRUMin10 trigger2MIDI interfaces by Audiofront.
Some LEMON cymbals ... Yeah!
Yeah I'm honestly using a cheap pad with foot pedals hooked up to a laptop running Sitala. I LOVE it!
I picked out our electric kit at church. GAMECHANGER
Nice!
Wow I want sticks. 😍
how?
Thank you so much. God bless your heart brother!!!
💥❤️❤️🔥🔥
Someone has more money than I will ever have
happy serving God friends God Jesus bless 😇🙏
God bless!
I use 5a and 5b and 420nb
I literally was just scrolling on here, trying to learn more about my kit, and I knew that that gym looked a little too familiar. I go to new life.💀
Do me a favor. Play an entire set with 2Bs then order a pair of Vic Firth AJ5s. Play a set with those. I want to witness that experience.
How can I get that hi hat
I have acoustic s3t of drums I use vic firth drum sticks I play drummers as well
Daniel I missed your videos
How did you mount the GoPros up there? Thanks
I use this clamp! bhpho.to/3JJzZ5D
Nice video daniel.
Thanks, Caleb!
You have that banding due to your shutter speed being too high under those lights.
Try to change shutter speed to less than 180.
I’m also a drummer and contemplating switching to electric. Just a big jump lol
Shutter speed 1/50 (double my frame rate of 24fps)
@@DanielBernard this might sound odd- I’ll try to explain it the easiest. Idk what mode you shoot in, automatic, manual, etc
I shoot all sorts of Things from weddings to sports, etc.
Different fps for different feels but my settings are typically 30p 100M. Shooting in 4K 95% of time.
But anytime I get under a certain type of light, usually fluorescent, I gotta find that happy medium between my ISO, f/stop and shutter. But with me shooting in a higher fps it’s still smooth when it comes to motion, no a lot of motion blur. (Speaking in terms of basketball and baseball)
Next time you’re noticing that in the church try to bring that shutter down and if it’s getting too “exposed” lower your ISO to get some darker attributes.
I find it a balancing act but it’s saved my neck a lot with weddings lol.
@@DanielBernard If we are talking about the same thing I have some examples I’ll DM you on IG.
I’m referring to the banding lines that appear horizontally across the screen under certain lights when I’m recording.
🫡 2 chairs to make it perfect
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I GOT THOSE DRUMS AT MY CHURCH LOL
Nice!
Only benefit I've seen with electric drums is noise, almost no noise on stage, but the samples sound okay-ish and other times not good (looking at you Roland).
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pls drop the TH-cam link of this church
Is this Shepherd's House church?
Daniel how do u deal with being nervous at like big events (youth rallys or playing in a huge arena/ stadium.) Because im a beginner and about to become a intermediate. And I want some tips to deal with anxiety. So i dont mess up and play the drums like you do.
@@kevingarvin6819 What Kevin said. Just play, listen to the music and don't forget to worship, it's not a gig. 😉
@@tonylancer7367 thanks
@@kevingarvin6819 thanks man
Am a drummer at are church and the drumsticks I use is a 5B I can't see the brand
That they are
Very nice drum to praise our Lord Jesus Christ, bro.
I wish, i can get cymbal set for my church drum. Anyone can help me, please? 😇
E drums are a four letter word.
The e drums that suck are the ones that aren't good for articulation
I will never play with a click anything while playing for the Lord
It would have been great to hear the full up mix with the drums.... very muted. Thank you.
what in ears are those ???????
1964 ears!
No electronic drums ....
You got best sound you could get with those drums. Well played, just not a fan of the electrics. I look at it as a necessary evil for many church drummers.
NOOOOO! Electronic drums are evil! Never play the electronic drums in glorification
The Yamaha ead-10 allows the same concept for a real kit.
DUDE! Those digital hi-hats looks amazing. I’ve got the Roland VAD503 kit, that I use for teaching drum lessons. It’s the same TD27 like yours but bigger shells. I gotta say: the e-drums have come a LONG way in recent years. I really love my Roland kit.
You HAVE to check out @theedrumworkshop. He makes after-market kits for edrums, using acoustic drum samples. They are killer. Sound so much better than the stock sounds.
Nice! Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out.