Incremental Tower Defense With A Surprising Amount Of Build Depth! - Idle Tower Defense

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    Idle Tower Defense is a game where you control a single tower to fight off hordes of enemies. No randomization. Choose from a variety of modules to create unique builds and upgrade modules and survive endless waves.
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  • @Pallidum
    @Pallidum 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +181

    Former game producer here. Wanderbot is absolutely right about avoiding major sales. Our games sold in the hundreds of thousands if not millions of copies and even we avoided the big sales and holidays like the plague. You only ever get one chance to launch your game, and that's it. And yes, early access does count as that one chance.

  • @joshlewis8860
    @joshlewis8860 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    1:00:25 If by that point you die if anything touches you, just don’t let anything touch you. Full commit, remove the HP booster and become the true glass cannon lol

    • @acuddle
      @acuddle 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, they were doing 100+M of damage to the 2M tower. That or the enemies had so much of a damage multiplier that the number didn't matter 🤔

  • @uncledeath2246
    @uncledeath2246 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    A similar game in this vein is Perfect Tower 2 an idle Tower Defense with aspects of city building , its free on steam and has a lot of mechanics beyond the main gameplay loop like challenges, a factory minigame about mining and producing resources by crafting machines, different build and boss fights. It has a LOT of content though, and it will take quite a bit to get the hang of it - if you end up with it, dont rush into resets like in other idle games, they're not always traditional "do the gameplay up to here 2000x faster" prestiges.

  • @pkartkat1306
    @pkartkat1306 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    I always prefer when an idle or clicker game *gives* an auto clicker. External auto clickers aren't my cup of tea, and clicking repeatedly for extended periods isn't exactly fun, I'd rather have the option to let it handle itself most of the time

    • @State_Of_Fugue
      @State_Of_Fugue 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Strongly agree. Tried the demo and immediately noticed that clicking fired the primary weapon. Instantly booted up my auto-clicker. I do NOT want to spam click my mouse repeatedly just to fire faster-RSI / carpal tunnel anyone? The dev should change this immediately and just speed up the attack speed and remove the ability to click to fire faster.

    • @PadaV4
      @PadaV4 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@State_Of_Fugue Yea. Please don't abuse the wrists of your customers.

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      More than that, they should cap the max click rate at whatever the in-game clicker does, so you literally CAN'T use an auto-clicker program for anything useful.

    • @nicholaskehler9169
      @nicholaskehler9169 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@State_Of_Fugue I traded my health boost for the burst fire upgrade so I could stop clicking

    • @ZombieWolf2113
      @ZombieWolf2113 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Nevir202this does not stop auto clickers you just can’t get the max click speed out of it

  • @Acrid_Arsonist
    @Acrid_Arsonist 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    At 56:00, when Wander used homing, it definitely made a difference as evey projectile took its own enemys rather than maintaining the original formation, i think a more appropriate description would be that all projectiles get precision targeting.

    • @braarup1
      @braarup1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      i saw that too
      i was thinking of calling it "multi aiming", "split aim" or "free aim"

  • @PlutoDarknight
    @PlutoDarknight 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I don't know if it is just me but watching the enemies zero in on the tower in wave 10 made it look like the camera was constantly zooming backwards, made me kinda dizzy feeling

  • @RpgPenguins
    @RpgPenguins 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    26:05 I am making a game that I was going to publish during the sale, thanks for this heads up

  • @evilmindedsquirrel
    @evilmindedsquirrel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    44:24 that evil laugh of realization 😂

  • @Magpie_Media
    @Magpie_Media 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    38:35 Might be colour specific weapons and perks? So the blue perks only work for blue weapons? and The homing would only work for red weapons?

    • @SophGuiLea
      @SophGuiLea 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Actually the homing does work, but its an auto aim, not a homing. All the bullets choose a target and shot at it, doesnt change course through flight. U can see it at 56:20

    • @Magpie_Media
      @Magpie_Media 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SophGuiLea Ahh :o

    • @PadaV4
      @PadaV4 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SophGuiLea Nah, it clearly doesn't work for Gatling gun.

    • @joshlewis8860
      @joshlewis8860 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@PadaV4 Because Gatling isn’t a projectile (somehow)

    • @joshlewis8860
      @joshlewis8860 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I saw it working too, it just doesn’t work the way it should based on the name. It doesn’t have anything to do with homing, it causes extra projectiles to target enemies similarly to the main gun. It seems quite good but it’s weird to call it “homing”

  • @evilmindedsquirrel
    @evilmindedsquirrel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    30:56 I hope he clicks the loop button at level 20. That's what it's for lol (haven't finished watching yet!)

    • @evilmindedsquirrel
      @evilmindedsquirrel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      41:48 nope, oh well 😂 staying on the high value waves gives a lot more money than staying at the one before or after

  • @dkmayhem6279
    @dkmayhem6279 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    56:05 it looks like when you turned on percision, it made every projectile stream lock onto seperate targets, not give individual projectiles homing. like, your 1 forward, 4 back suddenly just became 5 at nearest. that seems pretty good tbh, just could use a better esplanation in the skill. di

  • @Ben_R4mZ
    @Ben_R4mZ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was just thinking about FLERP earlier today and wishing it had more content.
    It's a great game but after you explore the different builds and synergies there isnt much else to see.
    100% Achievements in about 10-15 hours isnt bad but there's nothing "deeper" so to speak.
    I'll definitely have to give this one a try ❤

  • @BadgerBishop
    @BadgerBishop 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I was hoping the gatling would modify your slow primary gun, not add a new, weak one that's ineffective as soon as purchased.

    • @joshlewis8860
      @joshlewis8860 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But the early upgrades are very cheap, so you can quickly bring new weapons up to speed with your existing ones

  • @Chronx6
    @Chronx6 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The attetion economy is a thing. On top (or maybe along side that) discoverability is a thing. You have to be very careful about how you release things.

  • @codydwire29
    @codydwire29 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yoooo on the day of my finals, love your content man and it always helps cheer me up

  • @Pravus198
    @Pravus198 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I waited patiently for you to figure out you could use autoclicker. 44:19

  • @fuzzy-02
    @fuzzy-02 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was hooked by the music, is it editing or from the game?
    0:19

  • @dustyflash
    @dustyflash 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    All these Incremental games, and you are forgetting the greatest Incremental game of all, Warframe. (numbers go up)

    • @wanderbots
      @wanderbots  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      While Warframe definitely counts, I'd rarely refer to it as an incremental game as there are other, better descriptors.
      It's why I rarely refer to any RPG as an incremental game. They absolutely are incremental, as far as numbers going up, but that's not really the focus nor is the gameplay really built around facilitating doing so. Except for Disgaea, which goes all-in if you're aiming for the endgame.

    • @dustyflash
      @dustyflash 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @wanderbots Aye. I was refering to it somewhat sarcastically, somewhat as a joke.
      Mostly I was saying it because of the big update they launched this month, do check out Warframes latest content, the team has been straight up COOKING.

  • @chesteran5719
    @chesteran5719 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    44:27 That was pure comedy lol

  • @Temperans
    @Temperans 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like how the weapon upgrades stack, it gots some nice patterns

  • @BrickGriff
    @BrickGriff 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's like Incremental Adventures the way it checks your build and sends you back if you're inefficient.

  • @DernddyS
    @DernddyS 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is bringing back playing flash games on the school computer vibes

  • @neloy4200
    @neloy4200 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive tried talking to the dev on discord they have every intention of releasing it on the 26th, they said they already pushed back the release date once and don't want to do it again, but I did get across to them that releasing during a steam sale is a bad idea and that they said they would seriously consider it. I just asked them to do some research and look into it.

  • @sirgouki6207
    @sirgouki6207 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey, Wanderbots, not sure if you ever figured it out, but if you click your main gun fires faster.

  • @ino145
    @ino145 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This seems like fun. Just grabbed the DEMO played once and got to level 10. And wishlisted. :D Also, you can click to shoot faster.

  • @TheFinagle
    @TheFinagle 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just waiting for Wander to realize its a clicker after downloading, starting and zooming past while video was playing.
    Edit: at 28 min into video I beat the demo. clicking is OP

  • @curdust
    @curdust 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i played this game a WHILE back and remember that even with the hp upgrade fully maxed out, if i got touched by anything it was instant death, so my plan was to just completely remove the hp module because even with the maxed hp it was practically still only 1, so i just replaced it with something that boosted my damage(i think i ran a knockback explosion homing build but it was a while back so i dont remember)

  • @MsVilecat
    @MsVilecat 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This reminds me of the free game Perfect Tower 2 on Steam. It's still in beta but there are many similarities, at least until you get waaaaay into the management aspect.

  • @DaughterOfDrakes
    @DaughterOfDrakes 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    'the classic parable of be very very careful of releasing a game and when you do so' yeah I think that was in like, the Brothers Grimm or Aesop's fables or something, right?

  • @jason1ab
    @jason1ab 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loving the videos could you turn the game music down a little it over powers your voice sometimes

  • @umbaupause
    @umbaupause 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ...Did you really just say "like a roguelite, where instead of going back to the beginning you go back to beginning of the stage"?
    I love that genre descriptor, it's so cooked.

  • @gremlinbd
    @gremlinbd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Horizon is getting a lego remake.... that seems really popular. I was of the same opinion as Mr. Bot until i talked to some console friends who massively talked up horizon. Lego has done some major properties and has good success with pretty much everything, so I'm interested to see how it goes with horizon

    • @wanderbots
      @wanderbots  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The Lego remake came out already, but due to limited marketing, forced Sony account integration, a steep price point, and a bad launch time most people didn't notice or care: store.steampowered.com/app/2428810/LEGO_Horizon_Adventures/ - at least on Steam. Maybe it did better on consoles.

    • @gremlinbd
      @gremlinbd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @wanderbots holy cow.... I didn't even hear a word beyond seeing the teaser

    • @wanderbots
      @wanderbots  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yup, shocked me when I looked it up two weeks after launch, not realizing it's already out.

  • @gallian_gaming9383
    @gallian_gaming9383 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was halfway through the video when I decided to try it. You will shoot faster if you spam-click the left button.

  • @uhavemooface
    @uhavemooface 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will try out this game. Its free to play right now so I will play it until its not free anymore.

  • @Rev_Erser
    @Rev_Erser วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think a clicker tower defense where you had to click ON the enemy you wanted to damage would be funny at least

  • @NunyaBizniz-om6xf
    @NunyaBizniz-om6xf 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this feels like a somewhat better version of the already existing Idle Tower Defense game sthats in mobile. That one is really frustratingly slow honestly and you get atuck at plateaus all the time.

  • @MagnificientLlama
    @MagnificientLlama 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Remember the tale of titanfall 2, the murdered release!

  • @dimitarlinov2393
    @dimitarlinov2393 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The way i beat wave 50 is full glass cannon, both extra shots, precision, knockback, bounce, pierce, i think? could probably replace one of the extra shots with explosion, or even precision, but idk, precision seemed quite nice to have.
    Also technically you can survive a hit at wave 50 at max hp, i think? but yeah, not sustainable. Lower waves is viable with the sword and probably aura though, with lifesteal.
    I imagine you can eventually beat it with swords with massively stacked damage and ust 1-2 tap most things, but that would take some time.

  • @YukoValis
    @YukoValis 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it looks like a simple version of The perfect tower.

  • @Jeekc
    @Jeekc 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There should be an achievement for getting to a certain stage or winning the game without clicking at all.

  • @gustavoboccasius5601
    @gustavoboccasius5601 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine if he realised at the beginning that you can click to shoot

  • @connorcarnahan3090
    @connorcarnahan3090 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another Wanderbot video. Another Demo Downloaded.

  • @tristanwegner
    @tristanwegner วันที่ผ่านมา

    How long did it take him to figure out that as a clicker game, clicking fires the gun each time, making him progress?

  • @OniNaito
    @OniNaito 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you would like Revolution Idle.

  • @elisabasta
    @elisabasta 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hmm, in many ways games are stories (and i don't mean particularly the lore or the writing). we have been doing that since forever, and new things keep coming up. i wouldn't make innovation rest exclusively or even mainly on tech development.

  • @Zilican
    @Zilican 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So i tried this game, currently hardstuck at 50, next unlock slot costs 313k power (no autoclicker, using a melee build), pretty fun so far, but worried how the scaling will be later

  • @koathekid8255
    @koathekid8255 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s because “incremental” is in the same boat as “asexual” or “aromantic”
    Not things by themselves but instead modifiers of other things that got big enough to be called its own thing

  • @Phriedah
    @Phriedah 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The homing only applied to the multiple projectiles

  • @TheLopo0444
    @TheLopo0444 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If anyone finds this interesting i recommend the perfect tower or the perfect tower 2 great time wasters imo

  • @chriscombs21886
    @chriscombs21886 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ~1:02:12 thought you were playing tower defense, not a bullet heaven

  • @manuelwurnig7595
    @manuelwurnig7595 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately to the core did not get any updates in the last I think year or so, and you can basically play the entire game in one sitting 😢

  • @shanky.y
    @shanky.y 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love how only on wave 25 you see that its a clicker game 😅

  • @sophiasouza4122
    @sophiasouza4122 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just wanna call wander out here for a moment (playfully)... the games not that much of a "slow burn" to get into the higher levels... I just dont think he understood how the upgrades worked... took me 5 minutes to get past lvl 20 😅 oh yeah... and you can click to fire faster... so not purely idle if you want a more active role in progressing

  • @Nobody-7233
    @Nobody-7233 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hunger for moooore

  • @binarybagel
    @binarybagel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the other "genre" i know where each game is functionally very different but connected through the core design it's gacha games.

  • @ZakisHereNow
    @ZakisHereNow 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wander… just loop the boss levels!

  • @megadeth116
    @megadeth116 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    44:58 Me neither

  • @Rev_Erser
    @Rev_Erser 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cicle
    perce

  • @Lynsis92
    @Lynsis92 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this looks like a worse version of "the tower" on android.

  • @hiranpeiris877
    @hiranpeiris877 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    gs

  • @supersonic_kai_99
    @supersonic_kai_99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    No comments yet?? Sus…

  • @toymanjosh
    @toymanjosh 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9h

  • @average312
    @average312 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I want to play these games in mobile not in laptop

    • @ized88
      @ized88 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't as it would lock up my phone. I like to play them on my handheld so i let it run 24/7 with a couple idle games in the background 😅

    • @ReyKoo1
      @ReyKoo1 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Try The Tower

  • @flavoracid
    @flavoracid 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am raging so hard at you constantly upgrading hp and not upgrading your weapon jfc