As NCP-Pawar drama unfolds, 5 pros & cons of the family-run parties & what it means for BJP
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As the NCP drama unfolds in Maharashtra, it’s an apt time to discuss the culture of dynasty politics in India. NCP is just one in a sea of family-run parties, and the BJP is building a narrative against them with its push against dynasty politics. The BJP itself has many mini-dynasties, but it is seeking to differentiate itself by nuance. In Ep 1224 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta discusses the BJP brand of “political heirs”, and lists 5 pros and as many cons of dynasty politics.
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If it's Dynasty
It ain't Democracy
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For the past 32 years no one from the Nehru family became CM or PM.
It is infact Modi has created Modi Dynasty rule continuously for the past 21 years.
Modi taught us Dynasty rule is not good and therefore we must stop a new Dynasty formation.
@@gateautomationindia6901 wrong, there is something called as remote control/loyalist
@@gateautomationindia6901 Aasmani kitaab or Aasmani Nasha ???
Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi both were PMs and both are from Nehru family.
Thodi padhai karke likhai Kara karo. Sasta Nasha Kam kiya karo You seem to be mentally challenged and academically illiterate .
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@@arpitpatel5814 I think he clearly mentioned for the "past 32 years"!! May be read what some one said before calling names!!
@@jayantjolly Tu kaun ?
Mein Khamakha.
He mentioned but I didn't, the context was dynasty, world knows in Congress dynastic politics exist, Gandhis calls the shots. May it be PM or General Secretary all are just labels if not from Gandhi family. So Mr. Khamakha you need to absorb more than just words, process it with your dormant grey matter and then spit out some sense, even if that's possible.
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I think BJP is right on this point. Merely having multi generational leaders from a family is very different from the entire party being controlled by any one family. Congress party has taken a baby step in the right direction with a new elected president. Hopefully other family led parties will follow the Congress, and overtime weaken control of families. In a sense the families can play the role of a monarch, like the british king , overtime reducing to a ceremonial role.
Congress has not taken a step. It would have if Tharoor had won. But Kharge is propped up by the Gandhis and they sabotaged the election.
in congress, family chose a loyalist, i dont see how that is different...
More than 100 years of its existence how many of its presidents are from a single family?
Dynastic politics has a major flaw that is, it chokes the emergence of alternative or a back up leadership.After Lalu, Rabri followed by Tejaswi and none else. After Mulayam, Akhilesh only (ShivPal struggled too hard but failed). The second generation inherits the chair and not qualities. In Maharashtra Uddhav though a very poor politician had taken over from his father but failed miserably even within MVA. Dynastic politics has to be discarded if we want democracy in India to flourish.
BJP IS CONTROLLED BY MULTIPLE FAMILIES, THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY BETTER FROM BEING CONTROLLED BY A SINGLE FAMILY.
The reason BJP is Not Family Owned is because it is influenced and governed with help from a 'Parivaar' called RSS. So BJP is not a dynast party but a Ideological Family
Fool don't understand is RSS ideology is more dangerous than Parivaar ideology
Names of some of the dyanst mp/mla from BJP-
Anurag Thakur, son of former Himachal Pradesh CM Prem Kumar Dhumal; Dushyant Singh, son of former Rajasthan CM Vasundhara Raje; B.Y. Raghavendra, son of four-time Karnataka CM B.S. Yediyurappa; Rajbir Singh, son of former UP CM Kalyan Singh; Pravesh Verma, son of former Delhi CM Sahib Singh Verma; Sanghamitra Maurya, daughter of UP cabinet minister Swami Prasad Maurya; Poonam Mahajan, daughter of late Union minister Pramod Mahajan; Pritam Munde, daughter of late Union minister Gopinath Munde; Jayant Sinha, son of former Union minister Yashwant Sinha; and Varun Gandhi, son of fellow BJP MP Maneka Gandhi.
Dushyant Singh, Poonam Mahajan, Pritam Munde, Pravesh Sahib Singh Verma, and B.Y. Raghavendra. Om Prakash Saklecha,Jyotiraditya scindia, Udayanraje Bhosale, Vivek Thakur, Neeraj Shekhar, Nabam Rebia
@@souravpandey8750 cheap to say that. Power will never reside with a dynastic donkeyys
@@happys6057 you can never predict what may come ahead.
The BJP was sitting pretty through this entire episode. If he were to resign, it would've been even better, since the NCP would continue to make a bitch out of Uddhav and UBT Sena. Now that he has stayed, he is going to cut Uddhav to size.
Uddhav literally looks like that beat down Shiba Inu from that meme...
Pawar saheb giving mixed signals again!
Shri Shekhar Gupta must be awarded and honoured because of this insightfully mind-blowing video.
well I think its GOLDEN opprtunity for BJP and Fadnavis to take advantage of breaking up of Family-run party !
So just like Rahul Gandhi, Sharad Pawar also gave his resignation to himself, he himself rejected it and made him the president again
Brilliant episode ….
Thoroughly enjoyed ..
These dynastic politics isn’t only restricted to India .
USA too has the Kennedy’s / Bush parivar .
UK too has its smaller version of dynastic politics within the Labour Party - Tony Benns and Hillary Benn !
Dynasties in the US are very different from dynasties in India. Neither the Bush nor Kennedy families are particularly important to their respective parties. Ted Kennedy was the only relevant Kennedy other than JFK in politics. None of the Bush's are looked at particularly fondly.
The Republican and Democratic parties both have strong ideologies. They are not completely static over time, but meaningful changes take decades. The problem with the US system is there are not enough parties. But the voters know exactly what they are getting when they vote R or D. If I snapped my fingers and made all dynasts in the US disappear overnight, it would make no real difference to either parties ideology, integrity, or electability.
You are absolutely right...dynastic politics is not at all limited to India. I am glad you enjoyed this episode. Thanks for watching...best wishes, Shekhar
'Senior' Journalist Shekhar Gupta says "Ideological flexibility' is a POSITIVE.
So basically, according to this devoted leftist , changing colours like a 'Ghirghit' is a good quality.............
Pawar is someone who signals right but turns left… remember what Pranab da said…
Well pointed out. Should be an eye opener to all citizens of the country. If dynast8c politics cintinues, India will remain divided between states, just like it had been cebtyries back between kingdoms and we as a country will always face a challenge of unification. This is one diversity which should definitely be dispensed with and adopt a more merit briven leadership in parties. Thats more futuristic to India's growth story.
Why Mr. Shekar Gupta did not do an episode about "The Kerala Story" movie. Ofcourse i understand there are many other political stuffs going around India like Karnataka Elections, Manipur Violence, etc but it is as equally a topic of the day when PM of the nation mentions this film in his own campaign.
Sharad pawar should CHANGE party name PAWAR PARIVAR PARTY PPP 😅😅
Cut the clutter for KERALA STORY
Kerala Movie is what Modi is asking people to see and know. Seriously? Faku is asking to see Fake story movie?
SG suddenly realized he's indian and is doing more programs on India 😂
@1:15 Pawar looks like some horror movie character
With half stitched mouth everyone would
He is more disgusting as he looks ......Dawood dog
Shekhar ji, your cricketing analogies are really amazing 😊. They are funny but also help declutter a complex scenario..
Haha, thank you, Bhushan ji. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Do keep watching and letting us know what you think...best wishes, Shekhar
Incidentally since you mentioned Praful Patel - yes, he is a super bright politician. He almost single handedly kept killing Air India though his I-am-the-king mentality, treating it like his baap-ka-airline and looting money off of it. Also not to forget, his Xi Jinping - like no-term-limit presidentship for Indian football association (again, baap-ka-association). I don't know of too many politicians that are below PM level who have done so much disservice to independent India for such a long time. That is some serious credit, given how competent Indian politicians of all parties and from all states are - so far as corruption is concerned. So - thank God, he is not about to lead NCP !
Almost all indian parties are dynastic in nature...and INDIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS is FATHER and MOTHER of dynastic party and
dynastic politics ......👍👍👍👍👍👍
Except BJP, Communists and AAP
If regional parties have to ensure that the next generation has a similar charisma, they should stop sending them to foreign countries for education. The main issue is that when they return from their ‘quality education’ (that the original founders didn’t have access to), they no more able to relate to the target audience that dad used to resonate with the same way. With every succession, 20% of Party’s traditional vote shifts elsewhere.
P/S: KTR in Telangana is an exception to this rule.
He was in agitation @ktr it is his advantage
Yes , because angutha chhap people have always ruled over us, and that's what we are used to. An educated leader confuses and alienates us! Atleast these children come back. Will yours? Not unless, those countries kick them out
India is a namesake Democracy. It's citizens still believe in monarchy, and support it in the form of dynasty parties.
Sir,
You missed the most primary negative point: Unbelievable corruptions by the family run parties. This is No.1 negative point.
Excellent analysis. You are a notch above the rest.
Dynasty Politics is when political career of a politician passes from generation to generation irrespective of who owns the party! Many such dynast exist within the BJP starting with Shah himself!
Shah's son is not in politics
@@marcos-1210 BCCI secretaries are politicians, this has been a trend.
I am so relieved SG chose to do this program on SP rather than joker Bilawal pappu.👍
Superb analysis. Thanks.
Thanks SG as always for the exhaustive analysis. I believe the positives that you listed are self serving to the families involved while being negative to both internal and national democracies, hence there is nothing positive about these for the common man or political aspirants.
I don't expect a lazy journalism from the print.
Dynastic politics is an outcome of gaining power. A lot of today's dynastic parties like NCP, SP, BRS have roots in Congress. While others have been in existence and in power for much longer duration. This early success led to formation of dynasties. A business also becomes family run generation after generation if it is successful for a long period and survives the test of time.
A party like AAP is not dynastic now because it has not been in power long enough. BJP s case is similar but with a mix of some leaders who didn't have any immediate family. Sangh parivar also has played a small role in keeping dynasties in check. But in time BJP too will become dynastic. Jay Amit Shah is a classic example of the same.
I am sure the team of THE PRINT will read this and provide much more data based report on this opinion.
The true measure of a nations progress is how little time it’s citizens spend following its politics and politicians
Let me guess, a West European hippie told you that?
is that inversely proportional or direct??? we seem to be losing both ways. if directly proportional, then we shouldve 'progressed' long ago. if inversely pro.,its true one way - people spend too much time and country goes deeper down. other way isnt happening either way. so we're sc****d
I disagree with this statement....a nation's politics should be accessible, and interesting enough for the average citizen to gravitate to... Citizen involvement in politics is as much a requirement as citizens involvement in economics....
This thinking is the reason why India's situation is so bad now
And the exampule of such a nation is "............"
I assumed this channel was neutral all this while and the complete silence on Satyapal Malik kind of revealed the face behind the mask
I also have a gripe with the print keeping the Vir Sanghvi and Kanisetty. So let's call it even
The extra care SG takes not to criticize gvt or ruling party or Modi,even accidentally, should be commended 😂
If someone today says Modi has killed a bird it will become a news and 10M views from ecosystem :-D Malik has an iota of proof to what he was saying he would have gone to court ..He talks like as he is a time traveler and know everything happening in the govt
Accusing Modi of wrong doing with no proof whatsoever is the biscuit which opposition throws at people who don't like Modi before every election.
We cannot take them seriously anymore.
If they have proof they should drag Modi to court with all the available proofs and let our Judiciary come to a conclusion on it.
Absolutely correct…as if dynasty is only about party…and not the likes of Jay Shahs! SG is a sophisticated version of other Godi media!
Dynastic politics is antidemocratic. A good leader like Sashi Tharoor is perfectly capable of being a leader of Congress but Congress will not allow him to rise because they believe that only a Gandhi/ Nehru family can lead the country . But this has retarded the rise of India since Nehru, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv did not govern well. Rahul is unqualified to be a leader and yet,
He is the projected PM candidate of congress.
DK Singh needs to watch this
Thank you for the episode sir.
I am curious if there any dynasties at play in Gujarat and MP.
Yes Narendra Modi should attack Dynasty politics and parties in India democracy can't both in authoritarian and Dynasty it is like eleclted Dynasty monarchy
Absolutely...if a party doesn't have internal democracy then how can it practice democracy for the people. It's like having to decide which royal family rules over us.
Sharad Pawaroti is trying to portray his weight to Nitish and RJD and congress. He does not want to completely surrender to them
BJP is not one piller party....not dependent on one family. This dinesty phenomenon is in All the professions even in journalism, media and judiciary also.
He'll be leader of NCP until his death. Resignation, like pappu's resignation, was a charade
he will remain NCP chief even after his death... forever leader.
Another naate class 👍
Shekhar ji your neck by far must be the most exercised part of your anatomy as also the most expressive !
This was like Viru’s scene from Sholay movie when he climbs the water tank for Basanti’s hand.
Excellent analysis!
Kerala won't accept dynasties. Still there is Kerala congress fractions are family run businesses.
IUML run by the thangal family doesn't count?
@@sauravsuresh it's ceremonial post mostly right.
@Rolipoli no son in law,he is not came becoz he is SIL he came becoz he worked in worked in party very earlier. I am not a fan of CPIM but we have to place facts.
Nice Episode 👍
Supriya Tai will be succession of NCP. 🙏
Dynastry corrupt ruling parties most dangerous to countries & states. Sri Lanka is classic example. All state people Smart to choose the right party Truth never fails.
people also think n vote this time.🙏🙏
Jaihind 🙏🙏
Shekhar, asking questions like dynastic politics is good or bad is same like saying there good terrorism and bad terrorism
SG ...what is better for the billion or so voters ? An ineffective party run by neobabies ( who lack leadership skills and vision) like the Congress OR a splintered/reformed/transformed Congress party or some derivative with good capable visionary leaders (chosen based on meritocracy) who can potentially lead India to become a prosperous nation.
C'mon please be sensitive to the Indian voters who want dynastic politics to be replaced by democratic parties who have a vision and an ability to deliver security and economic and social progress for India and its people.
What Shekhar will not tell you because he is scared of Modi.
Modi’s cabinet has 15 ministers who are either products of dynastic politics or are building their own. About 12 per cent of the BJP’s 395 parliamentarians (Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha included) are dynasts. Two chief ministers, Pema Khandu in Arunachal Pradesh and Basavaraj Bommai in Karnataka, are children of former CMs. In Maharashtra, deputy chief minister Devendra Fadnavis’s father Gangadharpant Fadnavis was a member of the Maharashtra legislative council.
Shekhar gupta , why did you not point out that it is only the congress , so called dynast party that has given two non family Prime ministers. Both have proven to be the beat PMs for india. You very smartly chose NCP for your example to avoid questions to your logic eh?
+ive and - ive of Dynasty politics at 16:00
@SG what else to expect from you as you have special love for dynasty run parties, You should have chosen 5 positive and 5 negative in terms of Indian public or voters instead of party point of view. Parties don't matter, only the country and its people matter and you better make another episode from this perspective. Hope some other day you don't say dynasty rules have 10 more positive points than the democracy of India. You episode just try to give thumbs up to the dynasty parties especially congress.
The point is that if we want a true democracy then parties have to have internal democracy. Till they have internal democracy there is no point pretending a dynastic party has any place in a democracy.
Love.... Adore.... Enjoy your comments ji
So we saw the two earthquakes...reminded of Pranab Babu
Ajit pawar will definitely become CM one day , and it will not be a situation of insecurity for Supriya Sule because she is 10 years younger than Ajit Pawar and also she is right now active in national politics . And the day Ajit pawar retires from politics may be 12 or 15 years later then Supriya will become the face of NCP in Maharashtra , and by that time she would definitely have enough experience and she might become CM one day
Who care whether resign or not
Public interested only in two things who will hijack the party and the party symbol.
A complete farce, waste of cumulative time and the kind of nautanki that further erodes whatever little faith the Janata has in politicians and politics. Instead, why could not Sharad Pawar have thought straight with "tyaga bhava" and graciously, magnanimously anointed the Ajit Pawar-Supriya Sule duo, handed over the reins to them and faded away into the sunset?
It will also become a dynasty party soon.
It is strange that threat of ED CBI etc. is taken as negative and a tool by the ruling party against opposition parties. This gives the corruption and crime a big respect and makes other believe that there is mis-governance and misuse of Govt powers. 2. Corruption is fact of life in India and if there are grounds to believe that someone violates any of the laws, he should be called to account for it. Whoever he is. 3. one can have opinions on the process- like how it should be, no delays, quick decisions by the Court etc. but nothing beyond.
DMK: A party which was not even started by the first family, captured it in toto.
STALIN -CM
UDAYANIDHI STALIN- MLA, minister, defacto deputy CM
KANIMOZHI KARUNANIDHI - MP
M K AZHAGIRI - former union minister
MURASOLI MARAN- former union minister
DAYANIDHI MARAN -union minister
Churchill knew Indians better than Indians! “If Independence is granted to India, power will go to the hands of rascals, rogues, freebooters; all Indian leaders will be of low calibre and men of straw. They will have sweet tongues and silly hearts. They will fight amongst themselves for power and India will be lost in political squabbles. A day would come when even air and water would be taxed in India.” ― Winston S. Churchill Circa 1945 So prophetic!
And yet look where the United Kingdom is 😂. A failed monarch, degradation of infra, racial prejudice, no stable government and on top of that 10% inflation. So its better not to cite that bastard Churchill 🙏🏻
It would be great to know, what you think about India's ranking in Press Freedom Index.
Dynasty or no dynasty people would like to have parties/leaders who have people’s interests at heart, someone like a benevolent king of the past. But the tragedy is that the leaders’ interests only matter.
Pawar's fanboys :- balam dramebaaz, chalaye mercedes
Mixed signals: the greatest power of pawar .
BSP founder made mayawathi head because of he didn't like dynastic politics , and what happened, the part need a good leader , dynasty or not doesn't matter
Are the dynast families elected without election? If people wants them let them decide..we need someone who can lead us for the betterman of every citizen of india without being baised on cast,religious grounds..#save tribals of manipur
As expected
And as Always happens
The leader has consented to withdraw his Resignation
Any thing New?
Should u be surprised?
What is this? I know it is important but what happened to SCO meeting. There is plenty of clutter there and it is much more important.
Since politicd became commerce this evil inevitable but somehow holds Union and blocks fascists
In my opinion, parties which don’t have a fixed ideology may need a family for the sake of cohesion. But the parties which of a fixed ideology like BJP or CPIM, they don’t need any family to keep the party together. Their ideology is enough to do that. That's one of the few benefits of an ideology I can recall. Decisions should not be taken always basing on an ideology. Rather they should be taken with a more realistic perspective.
It is the intellectual capacity of the SG that he can find some positive points in dynasty politics where every worker is doing slavery to loot the country . Given the chance he can find some positive points in prostitution also .
Nepotism In Politics 😕
Indian Democratic Prince and Princess - Chetan Bhagat
Truly a fantastic drama.
Very interesting
What Nonsense! - H. D. DeveGowda, Former Prime Minister.
Person love this country love modiji. Person hate modiji hate this country. Help him to help us.
(VOTE )
Dynastic political parties have done and doing most damage in country
I expected CTC on SCO !!!
People are looking at the dynasty at the top. Like corruption, Dynastic politics at the top doesn't hamper Common people. However the dynasties which are growing at Sarpanch, MLA, MP, etc level are becoming a norm and no one is doing anything against it.
It is not like I am saying that the dynasty at the top is not bad but it is the worst at the lower level.
Now even our sports federation, including BCCI and State cricket boards are becoming like that.
@Honey Brar 😂😂😂 In 8 words, you exposed yourself completely.
Jatiwadi Murkh, like you are the main problem of this country.
Laloo chor hai, Mulayam murkh, Modi Tanashah jhootha, Rahul Nakara, Mamta Saari wali Modi, kejariwal Muffler wala Modi.
Mere me ye dam hai bolane ka, kyonki Tumhari tarah soch nahi hai meri jahil kahin ke..
Tujhe jaise logon ke upar GHRINA aati hai mujhe..
Naali ke keedon se bhi jyaada...
Chal bhaag yahan se jaatiwadi jahil..
@Honey Brar and by judging based on surname tells where you are coming from
Ah the usual laal topi guy😂
@Honey Brar constitution 🤣🤣🤣 our prime minister judges people based on their clothes so obviously their followers will judge based on cast and religion and constitution is their to provide equal opportunity to every cast not to judge on cast have you ever read constitution
@Honey Brar i have not forgotten that also when lalu became chief minister then there was a slogan given by my people that sau sal pehle yadav guar tha Aaj bhi hai aur kal bhi rahega and still in my village my people treat Dalits as untouchables
@shekharji how is BJD a family owned party…after Naveen Patnaik no one from family is in control of the party.
Politics in India is such a disgusting and murky world. Who , other than children of families, who have known no other lifestyle, would wade into this? Bjp gets its cadres from RSS. No other party has any ideological organization running it. The rise of cadres in bjp may be performance oriented, but the parameters are not governance, but spread of their vicious ideology. So really , the choice is between a highly scientific but vicious party with ulterior motives or a plethora of directionless dynasties , which can't see beyond their noses.
Its ANARCHY (William Dalrymple) all over again.
Your negatives are also not strong negatives.
1. No democracy
2. Only corruption
3. People with better skills can not get a chance to lead so no new Ideas and improvements.
4. No devotement because investors know, if not him/her, someone from family will lead the government later so need to align with them.
5. Etc ….
No mention of transfer of meritocracy in Congress? No because?
Where is kerala story???
On every channel
Kerala Movie, Seriously? Faku is asking to see Fake story movie?
In the Fake archives.
Why don’t you spend your time and money for that mediocre?
Popaganda mobie
Who is the current CM of Karnataka? Is he not part of Dynasty Politics ? Who is Vasundara Raj Scindia? Is she not part of Dynasty politics ? 😊
Good strawman sir. Well played
Sir please put a video on wrestler’s protest
Sekhar is so diplomatic discussions in in some foreign channels he was indirectly helping the BJP ...Who knows ! He is also scared of ED , enquiry agency ..! People should stop watching the Print...Sekhar says in 375 constituencies the BJP contests against dynasty parties , to help the BJP...Look at Maharashtra ...it sends the second largest number of MPs to Lok Sabha among Indian states...there a fraction of Thakhare family supports the BJP even now...Sekhar does not.find any fault with that...Sekhar is the best example of Chameleon type of Political analysts...
You hate bjp😂😂😂
Not batter shekhar sir... batsman! 😀😜
Amazing that you can find positive in dynasty party😂😂😂
As you speak, Sharad Pawar has withdrawn his resignation. He will continue as the party head. The man is in his eighties. He is struck by paralyais. Still he cannot give up politics. Similarly, Devegowda cannot walk without the support of three to four people. He often uses wheel chair, just as Karunanidhi always did. But, they cannot give up politics. These older people have boundless greed for power. Given a chance, Devegowda wouldn't mind becoming the PM again!
Benefits with dynastic politics? Seriously?
Shame on you Sekhar Ji.
Sir why haven't u told us about dynasty of Amit Shah , vasundhara raje , rajnat Singh and many more ...
What man…you really expect him to take on the biggies? Huh?
@@bmukh i was expecting him to be impartial nd not to follow footsteps of other big media houses
@@aniketghanghas430 he left that path long back....only peddles in soft criticisms of BJP--careful to keep the duo out always
He conveniently skipped CPM for not being dynastic. Only bjp qualifies according to him as non dynastic party.
Why is the PM's face there when you are talking about NCP?
Guptajee, you mentioned Gehlot and his son heading Rajasthan cricket but you shied away from Amit Shah and Jay Shah. Are you presenting all the facts or is cut the clutter turning into opinion?
11:37 Menkha Gandhi is BJP so you can't count her,jay shah is secretary of bcci, bcci may not be politics but is example of bjp doing dynasty