0:40:16 DRAFT 1:12:54 R01 KEVIN THANAKIT VS YOSHIHIKO IKAWA 2:01:48 R02 TOM WHITE VS YOSHIHIKO IKAWA 2:37:30 R02 NICOLE TIPPLE VS JAKE BEARDSLEY 3:11:55 R03 CARLOS OLIVEROS GUNTIN VS TOM WHITE 4:06:29 R03 JONNY GUTTMAN VS NICOLE TIPPLE 4:30:48 R04 MARTIN QUIROGA(SULTAI VENGEVINE) VS JONATHAN L MELAMED(BANT NADU) 5:04:58 R04 LUKAS JAKLOVSKY(BOROS ENERGY) VS LIAM HOBAN(BOROS ENERGY) 5:48:51 R05 JEAN-EMMANUEL DEPRAZ(BANT NADU) VS JAVIER DOMINGUEZ(JESKAI CONTROL) 6:35:20 R05 DAVID GONZALEZ(ELDRAZI TRON) VS BRENT VOS(MONO-BLACK NECRO) 6:56:16 R05 JACOB NAGRO(BANT NADU) VS ARNE HUSCHENBETH(BANT NADU) 7:16:18 R06 CHARLES EILER(FOUR-COLOR NADU) VS BRIAN BOSS(GRUUL PROWESS) 7:33:52 R06 KEVIN THANAKIT(GRUUL ELDRAZI) VS REID DUKE(MONO-BLACK NECRO) 8:13:00 R06 YUXUAN ZHANG(BOROS ENERGY) VS MATT SIKKINK JOHNSON(TEMUR ELDRAZI) 8:34:27 R07 DAVID GONZALEZ(ELDRAZI TRON) VS JAVIER DOMINGUEZ(JESKAI CONTROL) 9:19:33 R07 DANIEL GOETSCHEL(FOUR-COLOR NADU) VS TOMASZ SODOMIRSKI(LIVING END) 9:54:59 R08 DAVID GONZALEZ(ELDRAZI TRON) VS JACOB NAGRO(BANT NADU) 10:20:43 R08 NATHAN BLACKMON(ELDRAZI TRON) VS OLLE RADE(BOROS ENERGY) 10:43:41 R08 JEAN-EMMANUEL DEPRAZ(BANT NADU) VS SIMON NIELSEN(BANT NADU)
For anyone wondering with the loop at the end with JED. Nantuko is bestowed onto endurance. You get your library close to empty with Nadu. With your last land etb you pay to copy endurance. In response to endurance etb, you sac lands to safekeeper and then shuffle graveyard onto bottom of library. You then use Nadu triggers to get the lands out of your deck, creating insects. With the last land from your library, you copy endurance again and repeat the loop. This is infinite mana and creatures. Then with two lands as the only cards in your library, you use a Nadu trigger to have a land etb and then you copy endurance. In response to the etb, you sac ottawara to safekeeper and then ottawara is on the bottom of your library. Then you put the last land into play with Nadu trigger, in response to nantuko trigger, sac horizon canopy to draw ottawara. Then still in response, sac two lands to safekeeper, then copy endurance and shuffle those two lands into your library plus horizon canopy into your library. Then channel ottawara. Then get a land etb through Nadu and repeat the loop. This bounces all opponents non land permanents. Then do the same with boseju to destroy all non basic lands and replace them until your opponent only has basics. Then cast finale of devastation and attack with infinite haste creatures for the win. Edit: Or in the case of this game, where JED appears to have boarded out finale because his opponent has no wraths or direct damage: finish the loop as described above by putting a few lands on the bottom of the library, pass turn and hold interaction to keep your opponent from comboing. Then attack for the win on the following turn. Obviously, the more advanced parts of the loop regarding otawara and boseju are only necessary because a pass the turn line is required since finale is no longer in the deck. Yes, I know this is a lot to read. If you don’t want to that’s fine as you are not the target audience of this comment.
Yeah, thanks. I was wondering if you could do it after you draw your deck with an empty stack. You need to make sure you still have a land in your library to start the loop.
Also, obviously, when I say infinite, that is just shorthand. In reality, you would specify a number of iterations for the loop you intend to take and then describe the game state at the end of those iterations.
Interesting, so hypothetically if you evoke endurance early game to stop a living end or something, can you just not combo anymore? Obviously the same argument can be made for thassas oracle ofc, but is there a failsafe built in? ik one decklist had two endurances tho, is that why? I mean at the end of the day, you dont need to combo to win so ig its not the end of the world either way
The fact Zack Elsik still gets call outs for Lantern Control makes my heart happy. That’s truly one of the most out of the box and creative decks that’s been made.
So I think Dreamtide Whale doesn't fly because the art is depicting that the whale evaporates upon leaving the water. So it's in the process of losing it's last Counter and being no more than a memory, which is why whales only fly in Riley's dreams.
Frank Karsten is so competent, authentic and all-around nice :-) Unfortunately, I did not find a Gifts Ungiven at the Convention to get it signed by him :D
The hosts and commentators. It. Is. INSANE. Every god damn time. The charisma and energy and enthusiasm and vibes they bring is OTHERWORLDLY, I don’t know what they get paid but it’s not enough. Other esport, or regular sports, or whatever pales in comparison triple friggin AAA in my opinion
It pisses me off hearing someone proudly saying "this is Modern 4.0! with every Moder Horizon the decks change" Pushing new cards power to force a rotation on a """""""Eternal""""""" format is SO low...but I am the one on the wrong...why am I hopping WOTC will think of players rather then money...
not a big mistake but did anyone else notice that tom white put his meddler on the bottom of his deck instead of second from the top when it got bounced around 3:40 minutes in
ive been playing Izzet Phoenix in Timeless on Arena for months and never thought to cast otherworldly gaze during my upkeep to filter the draw...I feel dumb
Graphics needs more than just Cards in Hand display. Needs to cycle between Cards on Board and In Hand. Unless we've got 10x zoom or have intimate knowledge of cards folks at home ain't gonna know what cards are on board. Perhaps some overlays.
Cards are confusing for maybe the first game, then you start seeing all the same cards. Commentators also do a great job at narrating exactly what is occurring - I go to bed imagining the board state as they talk and I can get decently far into a game with only their voice.
The One Ring is going to get banned. Really obnoxious watching those g1 take half an hour, drawing several dozen cards, playing a new one to reset the "burden" counters. It just inherently delays the game. Senei's Divining Top mirrors were quicker.
yeah literally wtf...? that was smooth af i don't want to assume anything but i think its pretty difficult to actually accidentally play a misty rainforest after your dryad arbor
I wish every game was between two players who played as cleanly and verbosely as Reid Duke so we can cut out the commentators for the most part (no offense Ced)
Ngl that’s just kind of grammatically incorrect. “I messaged they” or “I talked to they” is just not right. That’s supposed to be in place of “he” not “him”. Simple English classes would’ve explained that to… they lol. See, it’s just completely wrong even when I try to take it serious, it’s supposed to be they/him. If they wanted it to be right and knew proper English it would be he/them.
It's important. How else should we properly talk about their plays, if we do not know how to address them. Some players use he/him, some she/her and some they/them. It thinks it's really useful to know
@@yeetus333 I don’t know… maybe we do how we used to do like before instead of showing their pronouns as if some of them would be special or something~~
Jokes aside, things change. Progress is made. If this is what offends you, I encourage you to look at the state of the world. There are more serious and dangerous things to be "offended" by.
Womp Womp, truly playing a tiny violin for someone so bothered by a few characters of size 11 font or something. You're living the good life if this is chief of your concerns, you must have it made.
I usually try to be nice and understanding, so I'm going to assume you are a child influenced by a horrible adult. I promise, you will learn about pronouns and realize they are just a part of speech and not some creature waiting to steal you during the night. Monsters aren't real...unless they are inexplicably upset about pronouns.
0:40:16 DRAFT
1:12:54 R01 KEVIN THANAKIT VS YOSHIHIKO IKAWA
2:01:48 R02 TOM WHITE VS YOSHIHIKO IKAWA
2:37:30 R02 NICOLE TIPPLE VS JAKE BEARDSLEY
3:11:55 R03 CARLOS OLIVEROS GUNTIN VS TOM WHITE
4:06:29 R03 JONNY GUTTMAN VS NICOLE TIPPLE
4:30:48 R04 MARTIN QUIROGA(SULTAI VENGEVINE) VS JONATHAN L MELAMED(BANT NADU)
5:04:58 R04 LUKAS JAKLOVSKY(BOROS ENERGY) VS LIAM HOBAN(BOROS ENERGY)
5:48:51 R05 JEAN-EMMANUEL DEPRAZ(BANT NADU) VS JAVIER DOMINGUEZ(JESKAI CONTROL)
6:35:20 R05 DAVID GONZALEZ(ELDRAZI TRON) VS BRENT VOS(MONO-BLACK NECRO)
6:56:16 R05 JACOB NAGRO(BANT NADU) VS ARNE HUSCHENBETH(BANT NADU)
7:16:18 R06 CHARLES EILER(FOUR-COLOR NADU) VS BRIAN BOSS(GRUUL PROWESS)
7:33:52 R06 KEVIN THANAKIT(GRUUL ELDRAZI) VS REID DUKE(MONO-BLACK NECRO)
8:13:00 R06 YUXUAN ZHANG(BOROS ENERGY) VS MATT SIKKINK JOHNSON(TEMUR ELDRAZI)
8:34:27 R07 DAVID GONZALEZ(ELDRAZI TRON) VS JAVIER DOMINGUEZ(JESKAI CONTROL)
9:19:33 R07 DANIEL GOETSCHEL(FOUR-COLOR NADU) VS TOMASZ SODOMIRSKI(LIVING END)
9:54:59 R08 DAVID GONZALEZ(ELDRAZI TRON) VS JACOB NAGRO(BANT NADU)
10:20:43 R08 NATHAN BLACKMON(ELDRAZI TRON) VS OLLE RADE(BOROS ENERGY)
10:43:41 R08 JEAN-EMMANUEL DEPRAZ(BANT NADU) VS SIMON NIELSEN(BANT NADU)
MVP right here
Doing great work 👏
Thanks
thx
Thank you 🙏
Omg. Thanks for streaming on TH-cam as well and not just twitch. Such a better vod watching experience on TH-cam.
The double dimir draft game was wild in the last round. Deep analysis really coming through.
Riley and Mani: The commentary duo I didn't know I needed !!!! They we're both amazing. "Get down Mr. President!"
4:30:30 first round of constructed
Thanks, sib
i love you lol
@jacklpup The hero we need.
Oh thank goodness I found this
For anyone wondering with the loop at the end with JED. Nantuko is bestowed onto endurance. You get your library close to empty with Nadu. With your last land etb you pay to copy endurance. In response to endurance etb, you sac lands to safekeeper and then shuffle graveyard onto bottom of library. You then use Nadu triggers to get the lands out of your deck, creating insects. With the last land from your library, you copy endurance again and repeat the loop. This is infinite mana and creatures. Then with two lands as the only cards in your library, you use a Nadu trigger to have a land etb and then you copy endurance. In response to the etb, you sac ottawara to safekeeper and then ottawara is on the bottom of your library. Then you put the last land into play with Nadu trigger, in response to nantuko trigger, sac horizon canopy to draw ottawara. Then still in response, sac two lands to safekeeper, then copy endurance and shuffle those two lands into your library plus horizon canopy into your library. Then channel ottawara. Then get a land etb through Nadu and repeat the loop. This bounces all opponents non land permanents. Then do the same with boseju to destroy all non basic lands and replace them until your opponent only has basics. Then cast finale of devastation and attack with infinite haste creatures for the win.
Edit: Or in the case of this game, where JED appears to have boarded out finale because his opponent has no wraths or direct damage: finish the loop as described above by putting a few lands on the bottom of the library, pass turn and hold interaction to keep your opponent from comboing. Then attack for the win on the following turn. Obviously, the more advanced parts of the loop regarding otawara and boseju are only necessary because a pass the turn line is required since finale is no longer in the deck.
Yes, I know this is a lot to read. If you don’t want to that’s fine as you are not the target audience of this comment.
Fuck this
Yeah, thanks. I was wondering if you could do it after you draw your deck with an empty stack. You need to make sure you still have a land in your library to start the loop.
Also, obviously, when I say infinite, that is just shorthand. In reality, you would specify a number of iterations for the loop you intend to take and then describe the game state at the end of those iterations.
Interesting, so hypothetically if you evoke endurance early game to stop a living end or something, can you just not combo anymore? Obviously the same argument can be made for thassas oracle ofc, but is there a failsafe built in? ik one decklist had two endurances tho, is that why? I mean at the end of the day, you dont need to combo to win so ig its not the end of the world either way
Just saying, if you bought Nadu/Shuko, there will never be a better time to sell them. Something in that package is getting the axe.
Give me shit after we have the results, I'm calling tron wins the pro tour, and if tron wins nadu doesnt get any bans.
@@trux228 Well the bird won.
Tron is not 50% of the day 2 field. Bird is
Bolt the bird!
@@Bombasonnecan’t bolt a 3/4 body
The fact Zack Elsik still gets call outs for Lantern Control makes my heart happy. That’s truly one of the most out of the box and creative decks that’s been made.
6:20:10 Jean-Emmanuel Depraz plays 2 lands in his turn?
Yeah. Nice catch. He played dryad arbor and a regular land.
I caught this too, intentional cheat played off as a genuine mistake, they 100% know how these cards work.
wow he did, just whether or not its knowingly?
@@AzurielMist yeah. current world champion. Doesn't know how lands work.
Looks intentional, but you never know. Its a big stage and pressure from feature as well.
In the end it didnt matter though.
Ceddy P and Corey B killed it! Great casting duo!
So I think Dreamtide Whale doesn't fly because the art is depicting that the whale evaporates upon leaving the water. So it's in the process of losing it's last Counter and being no more than a memory, which is why whales only fly in Riley's dreams.
Kai, I am going to crack a cold one in your name. Living Legend.
So happy to see frank here. I love that guy. And Maria is always a treat. And happy to meet eilidh too
Frank Karsten is so competent, authentic and all-around nice :-)
Unfortunately, I did not find a Gifts Ungiven at the Convention to get it signed by him :D
Same thought here
2:45:30 anyone else notice that lethal throwdown is a sorcery? How did they not catch this?
It is a sorcery and was cast in Nicole's postcombat main phase, nothing illegal.
I want to see the new Ruby Storm!! lets get one on coverage tomorrow please!
Deck performed much worse than expected surprisingly, not a single one in the top 25 if I remember correctly so we won't be seeing it tomorrow
10:12:45 Sylvan Safekeeper currently has shroud I believe. It cannot be targeted with Shuko.
at 6:20:05 illegal play right? dryad arbor counts as your land for turn so you cant also play misty rainforest?
The hosts and commentators. It. Is. INSANE. Every god damn time. The charisma and energy and enthusiasm and vibes they bring is OTHERWORLDLY, I don’t know what they get paid but it’s not enough. Other esport, or regular sports, or whatever pales in comparison triple friggin AAA in my opinion
They are good fillers, not always good magic players though.
10:25:15 Missed guide of souls trigger, amped raptor -> 3 energy -> 0 to play phage, -> trigger to 1 energy from etb
Tom vs Carlos was one of my favorite games
29:29 stream starts :)
Brent's Sheoldreds was exiled! She couldn't have it back
Manni (sorry if I spelt that wrong!) and Riley had some great chemistry imo. Really enjoyed the matches they commentated on!
Idk how many missed amulet triggers there were in R4, crazy stuff.
6:03:40 Love the bin chicken reference. :)
Never gonna get tired of Riley's regional references.
It pisses me off hearing someone proudly saying "this is Modern 4.0! with every Moder Horizon the decks change" Pushing new cards power to force a rotation on a """""""Eternal""""""" format is SO low...but I am the one on the wrong...why am I hopping WOTC will think of players rather then money...
Law school students should be able to get credit for an independent study where they become a Magic judge
Commentators were wrong about the round 5. Eldrazi tron player didn't have natural tron. 2 mines and no powerplant.
I'm sure Nadu is a fun deck to pilot. But holy christ is that deck boring to watch. Pure definition of simic bullshit.
Personally, I thoroughly enjoy watching the gameplay.
So lemme tell you about this card called Krank-Clan Ironworks..... 😆
@piquanta7 I mean yeah same vibes when KCI was the best deck.
not a big mistake but did anyone else notice that tom white put his meddler on the bottom of his deck instead of second from the top when it got bounced around 3:40 minutes in
I didn't watch the limited rounds, but if the bounce card was Deem Inferior then that was legal.
At 6:20:04 JED played an Dryad Arbor and then a land. What am I missing?
he definitely did and nobody realized
15 whales, 5 of them fly. At least a third of the whales that fly, not bad ... for being whales!
ive been playing Izzet Phoenix in Timeless on Arena for months and never thought to cast otherworldly gaze during my upkeep to filter the draw...I feel dumb
Dont forget to put the stop 😂😂😢😢
Is there a way to watch the PT without commentators? just the two players talking?
MH3 had a great impact on the format. In Round 5 the boros energy decks consists almost completely of new cards
What is happening here at 7:34:38??? Why is Kevin picking up cards and exiling them, and why in a different exile pile???????
Devourer of Destiny's ability to scry.
10:10:00 isn't Jacob underpaying in his combo turn? Nadu and Safekeeper should be 4 mana, he pays 3.
He had one mana floating from Urza's Saga.
Shame on WotC for continuing to deny Taiwanese players their right to display their country's flag
Did they split up Riley and Cedric this time to more evenly distribute tomfoolery?
Arbor Dryad `Misty rainforest??
I understand the desire to play paper tournaments, jt the main stage needs better coverage of the cards
Graphics needs more than just Cards in Hand display. Needs to cycle between Cards on Board and In Hand. Unless we've got 10x zoom or have intimate knowledge of cards folks at home ain't gonna know what cards are on board. Perhaps some overlays.
Sometimes they forget to show cards and I have to use scryfall. I wish they would fix that
Cards are confusing for maybe the first game, then you start seeing all the same cards.
Commentators also do a great job at narrating exactly what is occurring - I go to bed imagining the board state as they talk and I can get decently far into a game with only their voice.
Double land drop at 6:20:00
The One Ring is going to get banned. Really obnoxious watching those g1 take half an hour, drawing several dozen cards, playing a new one to reset the "burden" counters. It just inherently delays the game. Senei's Divining Top mirrors were quicker.
Restricting it to one copy could be a solution
Song name 3:01:16?
Where is Marshall?
When?
6:20:00 Depraz plays 2 lands??
yeah literally wtf...?
that was smooth af
i don't want to assume anything but i think its pretty difficult to actually accidentally play a misty rainforest after your dryad arbor
Why is arena rigged? Why are the hands prematched to rigg wins vs losses?
Ban the one ring already, like damn
@7:29:00
Venge-a-vine?
2:00:00 what a nice guy
What a sad display of magic
I wish every game was between two players who played as cleanly and verbosely as Reid Duke so we can cut out the commentators for the most part (no offense Ced)
2:58:44 😂😂😂
In germany we say "Na du?" ;-)
Never thought about that, but it's cool
bit of a minus for bad lifetotal tracking. :/
Let's go Eliott!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
4:42:39 the 2nd grazer got triggered 3 times.
Good catch.
Yeah canada
Cards that seem like they could be on the ban radar: golden circle, bird man, fire helix thingy.
TOR has got to go, what a snoozefest
He/they? Wtf
Ngl that’s just kind of grammatically incorrect.
“I messaged they” or “I talked to they” is just not right. That’s supposed to be in place of “he” not “him”. Simple English classes would’ve explained that to… they lol. See, it’s just completely wrong even when I try to take it serious, it’s supposed to be they/him. If they wanted it to be right and knew proper English it would be he/them.
Am I the only one been offended to see he/him under their name?
It's important. How else should we properly talk about their plays, if we do not know how to address them. Some players use he/him, some she/her and some they/them. It thinks it's really useful to know
@@yeetus333 I don’t know… maybe we do how we used to do like before instead of showing their pronouns as if some of them would be special or something~~
Yes. Yes you are. If pronouns offend you then go live in a bubble.
Jokes aside, things change. Progress is made. If this is what offends you, I encourage you to look at the state of the world. There are more serious and dangerous things to be "offended" by.
You're so soft
NGL Modern has never looked more fun.
Legacy Lite ❤❤❤
@@nickk4247 exactly. it’s making me want to switch from legacy to modern!
Pulling for any player who didn’t play the pronoun game, and against every player who did 😂
Womp Womp, truly playing a tiny violin for someone so bothered by a few characters of size 11 font or something. You're living the good life if this is chief of your concerns, you must have it made.
Oh no not pronouns what will they do next!
What a sad human
I usually try to be nice and understanding, so I'm going to assume you are a child influenced by a horrible adult. I promise, you will learn about pronouns and realize they are just a part of speech and not some creature waiting to steal you during the night. Monsters aren't real...unless they are inexplicably upset about pronouns.
@@Mrsierramist1 this is not an argument. Make a point.
Draft sucks...
it's my favorite way to play
Everybody likes different things
I enjoy it. I think you mean you don't like it.