Another atrocious design from the current BMW design team also responsible for the 4 series hideous grill/front end + auto only = a solid no for me. Which is a shame, as I absolutely loved my 6spd F56 JCW.
@@MPPJ1931 Naa, I wish...my JCW is supposed to be something like 228 or 231, not sure which is it for the US market...probably the lower number. Still drives fine, I love it, had to put DervTech Stage 1 tune on it and it's even more fun now, it rips for what it is.
FlyHy I drove one when shopping for my latest car and while the interior felt a little cramped and wasn’t the nicest especially compared to the type r, that thing was an absolute riot to drive
Even after they bring out the automatic trans option in 2021 with all the new features, it MIGHT reach 35K if you fully load it. Which just goes to show how incredible the value is for a Veloster N.
It's so sad what's happened to Mini. I have an '06 JCW, and when it's working well, it's superb. But I would never buy another one, especially the current gen. Chinese knockoff is all too right. But it makes sense that Mini has given up on maintaining the ethos that made it popular when BMW has done the same.
Frank Stephenson, the designer of the R53 Mini, and Gordon Murray both identify cars they love...and then the next gen they say "the money men get to it, make it bigger, softer, heavier, try to make it more to more people and they ruin it". Over and over...good design succeeds, that attracts the attention of the money men, then they ruin it and you have to go elsewhere to find good design that hasn't been ruined by money men yet.
Toyota "Look we can ruin a legendary car by offering an auto only" Mini "Hold me beer..." Side note, cars under 500hp should come with a manual options always
@@tunanocrust2642 Thank God you are not in charge. Some people arent trying to be boy racers all the time just like the rumble ans the tumble through corners on the way home or to work. Weekend cars mate look it up.
I still remember driving b roads in near San Jose and running into a convoy of GP minis years and years ago. It was so much fun, they were all very spirited, and watching those things fly through corners is always a good time. But I have to say, even watching the video, I can almost see the mushiness they're referring to. Why not give this thing a manual?
I am a MINI enthusiast. I have a 2015 cooper S that I upgraded with JCW tune and a few other goodies. I absolutely love it. It’s a manual transmission and I’ve even beaten Hyundai Veloster N in a drag race. The MINI is more luxurious than the Veloster which has a little to do with it being more expensive. With all that being said... the GP3 is still a let down for me. My two main issues are that it only comes in automatic and that the exhaust is NOWHERE NEAR as loud or as fun as my cooper S with JCW tune. I am glad I didn’t preorder one of these =/
Veloster N with performance package is $30k keep and $28k real world procing. Civic Type R is $37k before markup. Veloster sounds better than bother the Type R and the JCW GP as well
the straight pipes appeal to nerds and casuals.. the smoking tire is more for nerds.. hence the straight pipes are over a million subscribers in a relatively short amount of time.. sad but true
I watch almost all videos from both channels and I feel like watching both gives me a better understanding. I mean if I'm going to buy a new car I wanna know if the infotainment sucks.
Yuri spends an enormous amount of time filming and doing post production. If you put in hard work on a VIDEO content platform it does indeed get noticed.
When this first was announced and I had my 2012 Countryman S ALL4 I was ecstatic that this was becoming a thing. Now that I can see a b-road test of this car I'm extremely disappointed by it's transmission being very slushbox and still having that typical BMW-mushy throttle response. Makes me glad I went with a 2019 MX5 over a 3rd gen JCW
Veloster N with performance pack is 30k (not 35). Type R is 37-38k now. Edit: those numbers seem absolutely bonkers though. 300 HP 330 ft-lbs in a 2800-2900 lb car? Massing power to weight ratio. Knowing it’s a BMW motor, probably underrated too.
It’s finally great to see Matt get a taste of his own medicine. If you go back and watch old videos you will see how many of the owners are scared shitless when Matt is behind the wheel and he could care less. Pure hilarity!
For me the transmission is a deal breaker, I have the normal JCW and the auto gearbox is good, I think its a different one from the GP because it farts on upshifts and this one doesn't. I would definitely expect something better for the GP, a DCT would definitely be ideal
I have always thought that BMW missed a golden opportunity when they revived the Mini name in 2002. Instead of the Mini, they should have revived the BMW 2002 - in 2002. They had a chance to go back to BMW's roots, and make a 3-box, 4 seat car with a compliant but great handing suspension that would take a dirt road or a racetrack with equal ease, and a simple interior that was driver-friendly, but avoided the expensive touches that are so common in BMWs today. Touches that the trendy set love but which did nothing for the car's ride, handling, acceleration or braking. Piped-in engine sounds? The engineers of the BMW 2002 would puke. Ahhh, but to find a 2002Tii in good condition today. Or a 3.0 CS or CSL. Even a Bavaria. When I read that BMW changed the brake pad material to a less effective compound, because it gave less brake dust, so that the JD Powers survey score would improve (ignorant owners rated the car down due to brake dust), I knew it was no longer the "ultimate driving machine."
I can't believe they delivered this car without the JCW PRO exhaust. The exhaust makes the car 100% and with a diff they become what they should be out of the factory. Getting a mini S with the jcw tuning kit, exhaust, and Dinan tune the car is ten times better
It's odd when manufacturers make a car aimed at enthusiasts, especially limited production, and bring out a car that seems like they didn't even ask an enthusiast what they would want.
Probably because enthusiasts are incredibly picky and represent a fraction of the market. Whereas they can build this pile and sell it to tons of people with more money than sense. 😂
That's your mistake right there. It's an "enthusiast" car for people who aren't enthusiasts. All Mini products are like this - brilliantly targeted at the car guy equivalent of a "gamer girl". "I'm a car guy, but I'm not like other car guys. Look at how crazy the dials are! It's British! It's QUIRKY! Like ME!". And then the JCW GP comes along, in very small numbers of course, as a way to strengthen the perceived performance authenticity of the brand for the majority of people who buy regular Minis. When their wife's boyfriend brings up Ring times, they can nod knowingly and say "Oh yeah, the Nurburb Ring. They took a Mini to the Nurburb and it did really good. Super good racing wins. I'm really into car stuff." The car is excellent at what it was designed to do. The problem is, if you're watching this video, the car most likely wasn't meant for you.
That's what BMW does, they confidently launched the lung grills on the 4 series. It is just like Michelin star restaurant chefs never asking what the customers want.
Mostly fake noise. I used bimmercode to turn it off in my Countryman JCW and the natural car sound is actually pretty good for a turbo 4. Quiet while puttering around but quite aggressive with "barks" from the exhaust when you get on it.
Yea when Matt said $35k for PP Veloster N I was like hold up. A lot of cars with PP are selling at dealerships for around $27k. Those things are a tune away from having the same or more power than this. Hard pass.
R53 was one of my favorite cars I've owned. Super neutral through the turns, made all my GTIs feel like mini vans. Intake, pulley, injectors, and it was so much fun
I just bought my chalk white 2020 Veloster N with the performance package. Paid 26k. Also doesn’t have pretty much any torque steer and can get Very stiff in sport +, actually too stiff. Idk who is going to buy this 40k hot wheels car.
This is good value for the amount of changes they made to the standard JCW. Trust me, they will make no money selling these cars, with a different drive train and bespoke panels, homologation for such a short production run.
@@jamesbaggaley1460 this has absolute crap value when compared to any other hot hatch on the market. you are paying for the name and the looks more than anything with this car and def not the build quality. having good value for having more differences then the regular JCW doesnt say much. this car new is used bmw m2 money and even then used low mile bmw m2s are thousands cheaper. i would have a much better opinion of the car if it was like 35k and came with a dct. those "bespoke" panels are just lipstick on a pig
Mom felt the same. Owns a 2012 Cooper S in manual, drove a maybe 17-18 manual jcw. Has driven every auto mini. I think she'd take any manual mini over an auto.
Definitely curious about your experience in a "regular" Cooper S or JCW, hopefully with a manual. The value isn't great new, but I bought a used '16 Cooper S manual at 36k mi with 10 months on the warranty for 17k. A few select tweaks, like a beefy rear sway bar that makes it tripod, and it's been a great fun car on back roads, plus plenty of torque to maintain good pace on wider roads too, but torque steer has been a non issue. I turned off the simulationed engine noise immediately, and added an exhaust for fun and they actually sound pretty decent opened up. Test drove a Veloster N a couple times too, great car, but I like tinkering, so went used and the Cooper S had a lot of potential at the depreciated price point. F series cars have so far been way more reliable than 07-14, we'll see.
I love this! Please do more of these “dual takes.” They remind me of some Canadians car reviewer twins, except for people that care more about the driving experience.
I’m currently a happy R53 owner. I had high hopes for the mini electric, but they spoiled it with the range. It makes me happy to hear that you prefer the 06 over modern minis. Even after 16 years and 220k miles I still think my mini is fantastic. :)
They shouldnt listen to people that complain about its size, it's a damn mini. If anything they should continue its small size and just focus on making it better for cheaper or much better for some extra change. Get a focus or Golf if you want something bigger imo....which isn't shit.
I have an 06 Mini Cooper and currently want a Veloster N, so it may be obvious that I agree with everything said here, but I probably would have been even harsher - a mini with delayed inputs and a slushbox is hardly a Mini at all. This car not having a manual is inexcusable.
They still haven't solved the tramlining! At least the suspension isn't crashy. Great video as always guys, spat my coffee at the TV packing comment hahaha
Pyramid Motorsport One V10 Music 493 of 2000 of I remember correctly. Do you have one or have you had one?
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@@jaredstueckel Yes sir, I had the Gp #203! It was a garage queen driven less than 500 miles a year. I miss mine. Hope to find another low mileage one in great shape for the right price! Ps. I'm still undecided on the new one..
@Pyramid Motorsport One V10 Music I only had mine for a year and it was mostly just for autoX and perfect weather driving. I got rid of mine 4 years ago for a 91 skyline GTR and got rid of that a year ago for a Lexus ISF. That’s the current best option for my wife and I as a fun weekend/track car now that we have a 2 and 3 year old. I’m stuck with 4 door options for awhile lol
What do you all think of the new Mini JCW GP?
the first one bmw made was ok the rest since then are ridiculous - a "mini" is now bigger than a focus due to the american market....
Automatic only garbage.
Another atrocious design from the current BMW design team also responsible for the 4 series hideous grill/front end + auto only = a solid no for me.
Which is a shame, as I absolutely loved my 6spd F56 JCW.
I'll take a Civic Type R with a stick.
Straight up, I think you guys sold me on a Veloster N
On this episode of Zack scares Matt... lol
Don't all JCWs have 300 hp now?
@@MPPJ1931 Naa, I wish...my JCW is supposed to be something like 228 or 231, not sure which is it for the US market...probably the lower number. Still drives fine, I love it, had to put DervTech Stage 1 tune on it and it's even more fun now, it rips for what it is.
Mark P the Clubman, Countryman, and GP are the only 301hp models and are all Auto only. The F56 JCW is lower HP but has a manual.
I meant all JCW's that are 2020's. 2020 Jcw Clubman and jcw countryman's are all 300 hp
Mark P again the 2020 2-door hardtop and convertible JCWs are not 301hp they are 228hp.
Also, these should be called "double take"
Good movie
By that logic, the regular ones should be called single take
The price and that transmission 🤮
Veloster N with performance pack is only 30k, not 35.
and you can find them for under $30k too which is nuts
Yeah the N cars are the best value in hot hatches atm.
FlyHy I drove one when shopping for my latest car and while the interior felt a little cramped and wasn’t the nicest especially compared to the type r, that thing was an absolute riot to drive
Even after they bring out the automatic trans option in 2021 with all the new features, it MIGHT reach 35K if you fully load it.
Which just goes to show how incredible the value is for a Veloster N.
Agreed you'd be a maniac to buy this over the N
It's so sad what's happened to Mini. I have an '06 JCW, and when it's working well, it's superb. But I would never buy another one, especially the current gen. Chinese knockoff is all too right. But it makes sense that Mini has given up on maintaining the ethos that made it popular when BMW has done the same.
Frank Stephenson, the designer of the R53 Mini, and Gordon Murray both identify cars they love...and then the next gen they say "the money men get to it, make it bigger, softer, heavier, try to make it more to more people and they ruin it". Over and over...good design succeeds, that attracts the attention of the money men, then they ruin it and you have to go elsewhere to find good design that hasn't been ruined by money men yet.
I'm so glad Matt touched on that awful front end. It's fucking hideous lol.
Overpriced and over styled, overall it’s disappointing to say the least. And it’s NOT MANUAL WTF MINI !
These are facts
Toyota "Look we can ruin a legendary car by offering an auto only"
Mini "Hold me beer..."
Side note, cars under 500hp should come with a manual options always
Couldn't agree more. Who is this for?
add to that bmw reliability
@@tunanocrust2642 Thank God you are not in charge. Some people arent trying to be boy racers all the time just like the rumble ans the tumble through corners on the way home or to work. Weekend cars mate look it up.
The 2 takes are 🔥🔥
Love these two-takes. The interaction brings so much more to these little reviews, IMO.
I still remember driving b roads in near San Jose and running into a convoy of GP minis years and years ago. It was so much fun, they were all very spirited, and watching those things fly through corners is always a good time. But I have to say, even watching the video, I can almost see the mushiness they're referring to. Why not give this thing a manual?
I had a 2015 F56 and it was dead reliable. It got totaled and I would definitely buy one again. For 45k, I think that is a bargain.
Zack kills the one takes! Two take is the next evolution. More enjoyable getting two different views and more of a dialogue.
Focus RS money for Fiesta ST performance. Haha! Very well put.
I am a MINI enthusiast. I have a 2015 cooper S that I upgraded with JCW tune and a few other goodies. I absolutely love it. It’s a manual transmission and I’ve even beaten Hyundai Veloster N in a drag race. The MINI is more luxurious than the Veloster which has a little to do with it being more expensive. With all that being said... the GP3 is still a let down for me. My two main issues are that it only comes in automatic and that the exhaust is NOWHERE NEAR as loud or as fun as my cooper S with JCW tune. I am glad I didn’t preorder one of these =/
That road looks amazing
"I'm going to turn this knob... you tell me whether you feel anything"
Transmission is a show stopper, no matter the rest....
Veloster N with performance package is $30k keep and $28k real world procing. Civic Type R is $37k before markup. Veloster sounds better than bother the Type R and the JCW GP as well
I think you should test the new Mini electric. Drives really well but the range isn’t the best at 130 mile
Looks like the GP shifts slower than the JCW auto? Zach drove the JCW and looked thrilled... but it was a manual.
I propose a name TwinTake. Kinda like Twin Turbos, kinda like an Intake, too :)
Never beat the R53 supercharged gp1, it's just so good at thrills delivery. And that supercharged whining 🤣
Wow road is awesome! Bet riding bike through that canyon would be epic. Where is it tho?
Western Malibu
Is this the same gp we get in the UK ? Cos watching this it seems like you drove it with the hand brake on...🤔
These guys are so much better than The Straight Pipes.
the straight pipes appeal to nerds and casuals.. the smoking tire is more for nerds.. hence the straight pipes are over a million subscribers in a relatively short amount of time.. sad but true
Kind of apple to oranges there. They have a consistent format of what they talk about. These are just sorta freestyled.
I watch almost all videos from both channels and I feel like watching both gives me a better understanding. I mean if I'm going to buy a new car I wanna know if the infotainment sucks.
The best thing is the one take mode
Yuri spends an enormous amount of time filming and doing post production. If you put in hard work on a VIDEO content platform it does indeed get noticed.
More two takes please!
More videos of Zack scaring Matt pls
Video just started and I already want more two takes.
I like minis, but at this price I'd have the M240i or a nice 997 911 with around 50k miles or less.
Miss the R53!!!!
If you want the soul successor to a GCW Mini buy a Fiesta ST
You’re not wrong. The ST is a riot. And cheap as chips.
This or the upcoming Veloster N with dct and the performance pack?
When this first was announced and I had my 2012 Countryman S ALL4 I was ecstatic that this was becoming a thing. Now that I can see a b-road test of this car I'm extremely disappointed by it's transmission being very slushbox and still having that typical BMW-mushy throttle response. Makes me glad I went with a 2019 MX5 over a 3rd gen JCW
I own a 2013 cooper s but is it wrong that I like fighting the steering wheel when stepping on it? 😳
A chipped GTI torque steers EVERYWHERE. It doesnt rip the wheel but its so darty its legitimately scary to drive 120+
The veloster is ~30k with the performance pack not 35 btw.
I like the weird carbon wheel thingies and the lack of roof grab handles, the rest i just... come on Mini :(
What are the makes of both of their glasses
lines up for a launch by the speed limit sign haha!
12:42 sad but true.. Mini’s have lost that compact and gokart kinda feeling that they used to have..
Gets going at the top of 3rd? That's a classic BMW trait.
I wish I had roads like this near where I live, empty as that too.
Veloster N with performance pack is 30k (not 35). Type R is 37-38k now.
Edit: those numbers seem absolutely bonkers though. 300 HP 330 ft-lbs in a 2800-2900 lb car? Massing power to weight ratio. Knowing it’s a BMW motor, probably underrated too.
It’s finally great to see Matt get a taste of his own medicine. If you go back and watch old videos you will see how many of the owners are scared shitless when Matt is behind the wheel and he could care less. Pure hilarity!
For me the transmission is a deal breaker, I have the normal JCW and the auto gearbox is good, I think its a different one from the GP because it farts on upshifts and this one doesn't. I would definitely expect something better for the GP, a DCT would definitely be ideal
Love the happy Gilmore quote!
Does anyone know what road this is?
You can literally hear how slow the gear change is. Bizarre considering the boxes that bmw have
Veloster N DCT if auto a must
Type R yes but not a tiny hatch anymore
4:18 Veloster N is $29.7k msrp with the Performance pack.
lol Matt trying not to shit his pants
so why should i get this over a civic type r?
Are you gonna drive the base one?
I have always thought that BMW missed a golden opportunity when they revived the Mini name in 2002. Instead of the Mini, they should have revived the BMW 2002 - in 2002. They had a chance to go back to BMW's roots, and make a 3-box, 4 seat car with a compliant but great handing suspension that would take a dirt road or a racetrack with equal ease, and a simple interior that was driver-friendly, but avoided the expensive touches that are so common in BMWs today. Touches that the trendy set love but which did nothing for the car's ride, handling, acceleration or braking. Piped-in engine sounds? The engineers of the BMW 2002 would puke. Ahhh, but to find a 2002Tii in good condition today. Or a 3.0 CS or CSL. Even a Bavaria. When I read that BMW changed the brake pad material to a less effective compound, because it gave less brake dust, so that the JD Powers survey score would improve (ignorant owners rated the car down due to brake dust), I knew it was no longer the "ultimate driving machine."
Matt, unfortunately I think you are right, the Minis have gotten worse since 2006. I haven’t updated mine for this reason.
I can't believe they delivered this car without the JCW PRO exhaust. The exhaust makes the car 100% and with a diff they become what they should be out of the factory.
Getting a mini S with the jcw tuning kit, exhaust, and Dinan tune the car is ten times better
They should name these episode Double Take
I love everything about the look of this car
Nothing wrong with that box took me a fortnight to get used to it but now I absolutely ❤ it
Good morning sirs!
Golf R all day every day
You guys got into an argument before this shoot didn't you? The chemistry seems off
Wow I don’t hate autos if they are decent (or if they are dct’s), but that trans is BAD
I feel like Matt is hungover in this video
I can hear the fake interior sound over here. It's thát obvious. Luckily most cars you can just unplug it, not sure with Mini/BMW though.
Carbon bits look grim
love mini, great car ...but any mini over 200hp needs to be 4wd
Should be take two
Title improvements : D.
For me it is either manual or electric. Why settle with a no fun to drive ICE car?
yall remember when matt killed that chipmunk? Rip lil homie you are missed
How does this thing have a check engine light ?
Because bmw
Because it isn’t running. Only the accessories are on.
lol brand new car check engine is on
That’s because it isn’t running. Just the accessories are on.
First gen (BMW) Minis are the best... R53 FTW
SUPER GP!!!!!
I love watching Matt being a terrible passenger lol
I've watched one takes for a while, but I've never really seen Matt ride shot gun and look so scared / uncomfortable, it's hilarious!!
You should watch their ride in the V6 Super Cooper....
It always feels faster In the passenger seat
he looked high to me lol idk
@@CJ-ht2fd That car was bananas.
Kid was haulin
It's odd when manufacturers make a car aimed at enthusiasts, especially limited production, and bring out a car that seems like they didn't even ask an enthusiast what they would want.
secrecy is more important to them than actually launching a good product
Probably because enthusiasts are incredibly picky and represent a fraction of the market. Whereas they can build this pile and sell it to tons of people with more money than sense. 😂
That's your mistake right there. It's an "enthusiast" car for people who aren't enthusiasts. All Mini products are like this - brilliantly targeted at the car guy equivalent of a "gamer girl". "I'm a car guy, but I'm not like other car guys. Look at how crazy the dials are! It's British! It's QUIRKY! Like ME!". And then the JCW GP comes along, in very small numbers of course, as a way to strengthen the perceived performance authenticity of the brand for the majority of people who buy regular Minis. When their wife's boyfriend brings up Ring times, they can nod knowingly and say "Oh yeah, the Nurburb Ring. They took a Mini to the Nurburb and it did really good. Super good racing wins. I'm really into car stuff."
The car is excellent at what it was designed to do. The problem is, if you're watching this video, the car most likely wasn't meant for you.
That's what BMW does, they confidently launched the lung grills on the 4 series. It is just like Michelin star restaurant chefs never asking what the customers want.
I loved the mini with the supercharger this is a dull 2 series
Weird engine sound, not in a good way. It sounds like PS1 Gran Turismo.
emissions restrictions...
Mostly fake noise. I used bimmercode to turn it off in my Countryman JCW and the natural car sound is actually pretty good for a turbo 4. Quiet while puttering around but quite aggressive with "barks" from the exhaust when you get on it.
14:15 the performance package adds +$2100 which puts the price just under 30k for Veloster N
Yea when Matt said $35k for PP Veloster N I was like hold up. A lot of cars with PP are selling at dealerships for around $27k. Those things are a tune away from having the same or more power than this. Hard pass.
Thanks for mentioning this. I think the Veloster N is pretty good value at 30, but at 35 Id start to look else where like the type R.
R53 was one of my favorite cars I've owned. Super neutral through the turns, made all my GTIs feel like mini vans. Intake, pulley, injectors, and it was so much fun
I just bought my chalk white 2020 Veloster N with the performance package. Paid 26k. Also doesn’t have pretty much any torque steer and can get Very stiff in sport +, actually too stiff. Idk who is going to buy this 40k hot wheels car.
They have been completely sold out. I tried to buy one and all the allocations had been filled and was put on a waiting list.
This thing is a fail. I have a 2012 Cooper S and have no interest in this car whatsoever. $10k+ too expensive.
Agreed, 2012 R55 S here. If you can't get a manual and auto is trash, and the throttle response is bad, then why is this the enthusiast halo mini?
Yup. Glad i didn't trade my GP2 for this.
This is good value for the amount of changes they made to the standard JCW. Trust me, they will make no money selling these cars, with a different drive train and bespoke panels, homologation for such a short production run.
@@jamesbaggaley1460 this has absolute crap value when compared to any other hot hatch on the market. you are paying for the name and the looks more than anything with this car and def not the build quality. having good value for having more differences then the regular JCW doesnt say much. this car new is used bmw m2 money and even then used low mile bmw m2s are thousands cheaper. i would have a much better opinion of the car if it was like 35k and came with a dct. those "bespoke" panels are just lipstick on a pig
Mom felt the same. Owns a 2012 Cooper S in manual, drove a maybe 17-18 manual jcw. Has driven every auto mini. I think she'd take any manual mini over an auto.
Definitely curious about your experience in a "regular" Cooper S or JCW, hopefully with a manual. The value isn't great new, but I bought a used '16 Cooper S manual at 36k mi with 10 months on the warranty for 17k. A few select tweaks, like a beefy rear sway bar that makes it tripod, and it's been a great fun car on back roads, plus plenty of torque to maintain good pace on wider roads too, but torque steer has been a non issue. I turned off the simulationed engine noise immediately, and added an exhaust for fun and they actually sound pretty decent opened up. Test drove a Veloster N a couple times too, great car, but I like tinkering, so went used and the Cooper S had a lot of potential at the depreciated price point. F series cars have so far been way more reliable than 07-14, we'll see.
I think you did good!
I love this! Please do more of these “dual takes.” They remind me of some Canadians car reviewer twins, except for people that care more about the driving experience.
Don't you dare besmirch those Canadians they are a treasure, lol.
Devin Baker haha no doubt! Theyre great! But there will be no visor tests here lol
I’d have a Civic Type R, a Golf GTI TCR, a Focus ST or a i30 N over one of these. Maybe even a Megane RS
don't forget about a alpine a110 S
at its heart its still a shitty mini just with big breaks and a body kit. i would take every other hot hatch over this tbh.
Gandalf721 there’s thousands for sale here in the UK
Alex Mylin It’s not really in the same category of car.
Megane RS most certainly
Soooo the guy in the background when you start driving at about 2 min is taking a leak? 😂
He's looking at his camera but it def looks like he's peeing.
California
I’ll take the Civic Type R over that.
A mk7 GTI would be better value unless for some reason you want the fwd exclusively. Civic TR better a Golf R or 370z
R Rod if I want something more refined I’d go with the Golf R. Plus the AWD works great
who wouldnt... at 45k this thing is a terrible deal.
Yes, get Toyota or Honda over this Mini/BMW trash.
I’m currently a happy R53 owner. I had high hopes for the mini electric, but they spoiled it with the range. It makes me happy to hear that you prefer the 06 over modern minis. Even after 16 years and 220k miles I still think my mini is fantastic. :)
I'll take the R56 JCW with GP2 diffuser and stage 2 tune on it over this any day
DomBounty Finally a man with some sense
@@xtrabadnuke8067 I'm slightly bias, as that is what I have HAHAHA
@@DomBounty Currently rocking an R55 JCW with a melted cat 😎😂.
They are missing the point ,, The automatic clutch / gearbox set up is similar to a dual clutch hence downshift up shift is always in gear
Sad, Mini has lost there way
their
Safety and environmental Regulations have killed it too.
They shouldnt listen to people that complain about its size, it's a damn mini. If anything they should continue its small size and just focus on making it better for cheaper or much better for some extra change. Get a focus or Golf if you want something bigger imo....which isn't shit.
I have an 06 Mini Cooper and currently want a Veloster N, so it may be obvious that I agree with everything said here, but I probably would have been even harsher - a mini with delayed inputs and a slushbox is hardly a Mini at all. This car not having a manual is inexcusable.
I was just quoted 28k for a Veloster N with performance pack. FYI
Thats a no brainer!
They still haven't solved the tramlining! At least the suspension isn't crashy. Great video as always guys, spat my coffee at the TV packing comment hahaha
The transmission is laaaaagy bro, you can tell just by listening to the Motor in this video. What’s up with that? 🤷
probably burnt through another clutch.
Automatics suck, that's why..
HomeWrecknKneeKnockr I have to agree on a ‘performance oriented’ car they should’ve had a manual, if not then at least a DCT.
Hey I think the 2 Takes are the best content on this channel but it would be even better if you put the interior cam in one of the lower corners
Type R MSRP is 37,000, Veloster N with package is 30,000, it's a pretty big difference in price, this cooper is just way out there.
It should be manual.
I owned a 2013 GP(about the most fun I’ve ever had) and seeing this new car is highly disappointing. Probably never buying another mini again.
What number was your 2013 Gp2?
Pyramid Motorsport One V10 Music 493 of 2000 of I remember correctly. Do you have one or have you had one?
@@jaredstueckel Yes sir, I had the Gp #203! It was a garage queen driven less than 500 miles a year. I miss mine. Hope to find another low mileage one in great shape for the right price! Ps. I'm still undecided on the new one..
@Pyramid Motorsport One V10 Music I only had mine for a year and it was mostly just for autoX and perfect weather driving. I got rid of mine 4 years ago for a 91 skyline GTR and got rid of that a year ago for a Lexus ISF. That’s the current best option for my wife and I as a fun weekend/track car now that we have a 2 and 3 year old. I’m stuck with 4 door options for awhile lol
Recently got #0072, it's great!