sometimes the ranger will not shoot at max level. and i don't think anyone knows why. just something to say. update: some ranger skins are broken. not all.
@@Dr._Xenonrairvids the upgrade menu says it shoots 3 times but then after that it just stops shooting entirely like just plain useless, i think its supposed to shoot 3 times per wave but it doesnt work
I think with hte reworks they're trying to reduce the upgrades to keep it consistent, 4 upgrades each tower with no filler upgrades. Because a lot of towers have 5 and others have 4
I still say that the new one is very expensive, and although it has 3 multihits, 10 rangers from before made more than 6 rangers now, I think that at least the ranger has a limit of 8 and that they lower the price even a little because even the turret does more dps and costs less (yes it is true that it has a lot of range) but we need to prioritize the dps more for each 1k
ranger is good and all, but its more expensive then engineer or accelerator to max out. someone should test out wether a ranger-accel combo is better than engi-accel combo. and yes you can max all 6 and 8 enginners and accels in one game of fallen.
Honestly you should have mentioned that his range will ALMOST always be actually global, it reaches the whole track now. Despite dps nerf, it still holds quite a lot of value, stack its range boost with dj and you have a whole 50% range buff to your towers, which is also pretty insane sometimes
The ranger has now become my favorite tower after this rework. It's just so fun to use, because of his passive, splash, and INSANE damage. I'd put the ranger in high A tier or low S tier. Accelerator is still the better pick, though. Since it has better value, reliability, higher DPS, and higher placement limit.
Do u Gem tower user towers have a thick skull for u to say that accelerator and engineer isnt the only good tower and everybody is absolute shit to the shit of absolute shit garbage to shit aside farm tower?
I've tried the ranger. I maxed all 6, but you need to be very good at buying and placing farms in a specific way to get the maximum amount of money possible without reaching too far into the game. I bought Ranger 2 days ago and I love having him. I then finally have a loadout that a pro player would have.
However, the new ranger has lower placement limit which you are allowed to place more powerful towers to replace the 4 placement limit ranger has lost. Thus compressing the overall dps into a much higher value for your loadout. Overall, quite handy
The range buff is HUGE! It can now easily cover almost every map if it has cliff. Plus, the range is already maxed out when placed (50) so he can provide coverage no matter where or when hes placed!
What I do is place a bunch of farms, and level them up until they are 4 or 5, and then get rangers which are level 3, but in endgame I max them because for fun. I am new to using the ranger so I am not really sure about any starts or stuff which can help.
for me i recomend spamming lvl 3 and 4 rangers and not max level ones in a game rangers rework has gotten him from a low A to an High A in my list of towers but here are the problems with ranger i found bothering me the most 1. the cost and placement is too damn expensive 2. ranger is a good tower but the max level splash area and dmg is kinda small.. for me i would personally think 250 splash dmg would do the job but with it below would also increase the cost of the upgrade by an prob 5 - 8K 3. rangers firerate at max is heavily increased and the waiting of 7 seconds can be wasted on a speedy enemy with 17 hp left instead of a tanky enemy with 4000 hp meaning that you have to wait a whole 7 seconds again before the ranger can deal damage, i highly recommend placing accels and minis to kill the other smaller enemies while rangers target the bigger threats like tanky enemies, mini bosses and alot more.. ( in more simple words set ranger setting on strongest.. i know yall be like HEY DUDE YOU ARE SO DUMD FOR MENTIONING A PROBLEM ALR SOLVEDDD i know but i still see many players doing those in matches like setting it on first so that is why i deceided to mention it.. and so sorry if i offended you once again this is just my personal opinion )
imo i think it get worse in term of single target dps, because Ranger mainly use for killing single unit, u have mortar to do better job for crowd control the animation is sick, buffing other tower range is fine addition (kinda niche because cliff sometime faraway) and its only buff a while but other than that i think its worse for my use oof
I agree, this might affect lucile strat (the hardcore grinding strat) but I’m not sure, I haven’t attempted to do it yet. Maybe the strat will now be updated to level 3 rangers (the one below max) instead of max level rangers.
Ranger is my favorite tower ever, I was sad when his beautiful majectic hat and cloak got removed but classic ranger skin solves that for me so now I like him even more
its definately not s tier, more like mid-high A tier the only thing that stops it from being completely outclassed by other towers is that it is overall a near perfect tower for every gamemode, only downside being no hd but ranger is still solid esp for events
yeah i got shocked today i hoped into a game after a long time and then saw the upgrade of ranger is 4 ive upgraded him it was much better than before and at the upgrade 4 im like wait a minute ! 1125 dmg? I prefer : Outlaw !
Also this update secretly re-balanced the Ace pilot , And the only thing I know is... -Lv.3-5 has slower fire rate -Lv.5 has more damage (10 dmg and the old version have 9 dmg) -Ace pilot can place only 8 of them
This update is really good. 2 new towers add 2 rework towers best update of all year and your videos are so good keep up the good work you been posting
“light didn’t kill them the death note did” has the same energy as “I didn’t kill him the bullet did”. and vegeta killed nappa, qui, zarbon, dodoria, the whole ginyu squad, a bunch of civilians when fighting android 18, and some more civilians when he went majin against goku, I haven’t watched naruto and I’m not planning on but I’m sure you’re wrong on madara as well
actually i found it extremly easy to max out as if you farm early while your temate defend I found out I could max out ranger around wave 35 and had extra cash to place down other units.
However. Ranger rework is insane good. But we should know. What now cost completely bad. How to use accelerator and ranger now? Its completely so hard. If u want get 6 maxed rangers. you need take more than 250k money. Making dps bigger is good but accelerator still better. Otherwise i'm using only g minigunner with ranger.. at least. it can help.. but i'm not so sure.. Just get 5 or 4 max rangers and then place many g mini's. or reverse.
let me correct u on some of the words said about ranger 1st of all -max ranger is only good for tanky enemies or bosses its completely useless to make it target the little ones since its fire rate is so slow and 2nd -the lvl 3 ranger might be better than the max since its a all rounder which means its just like old max ranger
I do think this rework was needed, considering it was a tower that worked the same for years with occasional bug fixes. I do think it might get nerf considering that DAMAGE! But it is hard to tell.
honestly I liked more the old ranger, its higher single target dps and MOSTLY, the design, it looked more unique back then, I feel like the new design looks kinda generic
i prefer the old one honestly tried the rework in a few games i think overall its a nerf cant be used as ur main dps tower anymore from my experience the splash is decent but still struggles with breakers and the super slow firerate makes it feel useless w/o commander at max
they could also buff bad towers like paint and demo, or you can play btd6, the best tower defense game, for only 15$ on PC or around 7 on mobile devices, and have access to all content in that game
I think he needs to be cheaper and have a placement on 8 to be good man because its so expensive and he takes a long time to kill the molten boss, warden killed the molten boss in like 8 secs but ranger takes a lot more of time honestly a really good rework but still needs some more dps to be worth the slot in my loadout i would give it a high A tier :)
You got a point. The new gamemode probably gonna be harder than Fallen. So it means they can give you more money from the enemies since they got high hp. So they make Ranger and Minigunner have better stats but more expensive because you'll get more money
Where is the hidden dete- (Dies of yes again brcause pie for reason no of 1-10 blue=best number of the alphabet false, krabby patty triple bossy deluxe on a raft 4x4 animal style with extra shingles with a shimmey and a squeeze light axel grease make it cry, burn it, and let it swim.)
I feel like this is more of a nerf because now Ranger is so expensive it is literally only for late-game, and it even has less DPS and value in single target. Ranger's passive ability is also pretty useless as the 15% increase barely makes a dent in a tower ranger. You would much rather use DJ for range.
Not only that but it made it be a sub dps tower and no one used it as a main dps now as of August it got buffed and the placement limit is 7 and does 200 extra damage the average dps with all rangers is somewhere about 1370 dps
Idk if my math is right but i think it takes 22.8s to kill molten boss with coa and 30.4s with out coa and i think 48.8s kill fallen king with coa and 65.1s with out coa ( i just used a calculator to do the maths and dont even know if its right )
Old ranger team 👇(I still like the ranger rework BUT, the reason I like old ranger better is because of the HUGE amount of money that you need for the reworked one)
Glad we finally got some good updates!
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sometimes the ranger will not shoot at max level. and i don't think anyone knows why.
just something to say.
update: some ranger skins are broken. not all.
@@Dr._Xenonrairvids the upgrade menu says it shoots 3 times but then after that it just stops shooting entirely like just plain useless, i think its supposed to shoot 3 times per wave but it doesnt work
yes
Rest in peace ranger's lvl 5 upgrade. You wont be forgotten. Lvl 5 ranger joined his family including mini with 5 levels and same with commander
I think with hte reworks they're trying to reduce the upgrades to keep it consistent, 4 upgrades each tower with no filler upgrades. Because a lot of towers have 5 and others have 4
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I still say that the new one is very expensive, and although it has 3 multihits, 10 rangers from before made more than 6 rangers now, I think that at least the ranger has a limit of 8 and that they lower the price even a little because even the turret does more dps and costs less (yes it is true that it has a lot of range) but we need to prioritize the dps more for each 1k
Ranger was always my favorite tower before, and now, i love it even more! The new rework is insane, especially the new visuals and remodeled skins.
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Sword art onlinewas one of my fav anime, so you can guess what my fav ranger skin is
ranger is good and all, but its more expensive then engineer or accelerator to max out. someone should test out wether a ranger-accel combo is better than engi-accel combo. and yes you can max all 6 and 8 enginners and accels in one game of fallen.
no hd though :(
finally frost ranger skin rework...
Honestly you should have mentioned that his range will ALMOST always be actually global, it reaches the whole track now. Despite dps nerf, it still holds quite a lot of value, stack its range boost with dj and you have a whole 50% range buff to your towers, which is also pretty insane sometimes
I mean, Ranger never had dps unless commanders' abilities would get stacked but that was a really long time ago.
@@OMGREALDUMMYFROMDVNdps can be negative dawg and nobody in tds had negative dps
The ranger has now become my favorite tower after this rework. It's just so fun to use, because of his passive, splash, and INSANE damage. I'd put the ranger in high A tier or low S tier. Accelerator is still the better pick, though. Since it has better value, reliability, higher DPS, and higher placement limit.
And HDN
Do u Gem tower user towers have a thick skull for u to say that accelerator and engineer isnt the only good tower and everybody is absolute shit to the shit of absolute shit garbage to shit aside farm tower?
It doesnt have hidden detec however i guess it could hit them indirectly with the max levels splash
@@VaclavTheHuman I could've sworn that I added something regarding ranger's lack of hidden detection, but oh well.
Ranger is more valuable than accel cos of accel’s cool-down
Dj gonna be working overtime
People who bought the ranger before the update: :)
Is that an ultra overpriced now, or what?
@@coolprometheusfromdvn no idea had it sense 3 years ago
@@coolprometheusfromdvn idk
i did
Me to
This rework was hella fun to try out
I've tried the ranger. I maxed all 6, but you need to be very good at buying and placing farms in a specific way to get the maximum amount of money possible without reaching too far into the game.
I bought Ranger 2 days ago and I love having him. I then finally have a loadout that a pro player would have.
However, the new ranger has lower placement limit which you are allowed to place more powerful towers to replace the 4 placement limit ranger has lost. Thus compressing the overall dps into a much higher value for your loadout. Overall, quite handy
ranger finally got the love he deserved
I’d say it’s really good but not the best. I still think mortar is better for crowds.
Yeah, but with a max commander it goes to under 5 secs a shot and with ability I think it’s around4 secs
@SirEugeneDingle no abilities make it attack quicker other than commander, also I don't think 3 hits, and 4.96 firerate is gonna cut it.
dude, its mortar
They are so much different...
@@Goated_Kanyeewithout the ability it's 5.6 secs
ok great ranger is now a shit ton more overpowered at the cost of my liver and both kidneys very nice
The range buff is HUGE!
It can now easily cover almost every map if it has cliff. Plus, the range is already maxed out when placed (50) so he can provide coverage no matter where or when hes placed!
I feel like they forgot to balance the range each upgrade fr
Like hell 50 on lev 0 THAT A STEAL
@@Empourordude, hes called ranger for a reason
@@noob3702 still It too good I guess
@@Empouror imagine + dj range buff
I still don't understand the 3 hit limit of the maximum level
Even though ranger got buff, i think accel still slightly better due to its dps and have 8 tower limite, tho ranger and accel will be a good team now
What I do is place a bunch of farms, and level them up until they are 4 or 5, and then get rangers which are level 3, but in endgame I max them because for fun. I am new to using the ranger so I am not really sure about any starts or stuff which can help.
Good news is that this ranger is stacked, unique, and really fun to use :) Bad news is I have little reason to use the funni helicopter now :(
i liked the simplicity of the old ranger, but the fact that they leaned hard on its use of high damage, slow firerate is pretty awesome
for me i recomend spamming lvl 3 and 4 rangers and not max level ones in a game
rangers rework has gotten him from a low A to an High A in my list of towers but here are the problems with ranger i found bothering me the most
1. the cost and placement is too damn expensive
2. ranger is a good tower but the max level splash area and dmg is kinda small.. for me i would personally think 250 splash dmg would do the job but with it below would also increase the cost of the upgrade by an prob 5 - 8K
3. rangers firerate at max is heavily increased and the waiting of 7 seconds can be wasted on a speedy enemy with 17 hp left instead of a tanky enemy with 4000 hp meaning that you have to wait a whole 7 seconds again before the ranger can deal damage, i highly recommend placing accels and minis to kill the other smaller enemies while rangers target the bigger threats like tanky enemies, mini bosses and alot more.. ( in more simple words set ranger setting on strongest.. i know yall be like HEY DUDE YOU ARE SO DUMD FOR MENTIONING A PROBLEM ALR SOLVEDDD i know but i still see many players doing those in matches like setting it on first so that is why i deceided to mention it.. and so sorry if i offended you once again this is just my personal opinion )
4 is the max duh
imo i think it get worse in term of single target dps, because Ranger mainly use for killing single unit, u have mortar to do better job for crowd control
the animation is sick, buffing other tower range is fine addition (kinda niche because cliff sometime faraway) and its only buff a while but other than that i think its worse for my use
oof
I agree, this might affect lucile strat (the hardcore grinding strat) but I’m not sure, I haven’t attempted to do it yet. Maybe the strat will now be updated to level 3 rangers (the one below max) instead of max level rangers.
Y'all realize commander exists right?
b-but 1k damage per shot!!!!!!
I think level 3 new ranger is good for single targets as it has faster fire rate, and the splash for crowds of lower bosses
the way that this man explained everything was awesome, your very underrated man and now i know exactly everything that the new ranger does, THANKS!
Tds didn’t lie when they said “there will be better content towards the end of the year”
Ranger is my favorite tower ever, I was sad when his beautiful majectic hat and cloak got removed but classic ranger skin solves that for me so now I like him even more
New ranger has explosive ammos back-OOO BABY YEEEEE
its definately not s tier, more like mid-high A tier the only thing that stops it from being completely outclassed by other towers is that it is overall a near perfect tower for every gamemode, only downside being no hd but ranger is still solid esp for events
yeah i got shocked today i hoped into a game after a long time and then saw the upgrade of ranger is 4 ive upgraded him it was much better than before and at the upgrade 4 im like wait a minute ! 1125 dmg?
I prefer : Outlaw !
Tested it out. Ranger in molten is 23 minutes, while accelerated is 12 minutes. I used Farm, DJ, Commander, Gladiator and Ranger/Accelerator
Also this update secretly re-balanced the Ace pilot , And the only thing I know is...
-Lv.3-5 has slower fire rate
-Lv.5 has more damage (10 dmg and the old version have 9 dmg)
-Ace pilot can place only 8 of them
The first upgrade costs 300 cash instead of 250 now, and starts with 7.5 range instead of 7 range, and the bombs away upgrade no longer give range
This update is really good. 2 new towers add 2 rework towers best update of all year and your videos are so good keep up the good work you been posting
Tower blitz Electrizer's honest reaction: HOW?????
after all the nerfs on outlaw, we have the ranger, then ranger got reworked like crazy, now ranger is just outlaw without the permanent hd
I think ranger price isn’t a problem since it has placement of 6 u can max them faster and get other towers
another problem is the low placement limit of 6, but you can use other towers to compensate
That can be the exact reason why its better
This new ranger is good and all, and I can't wait to test it out for myself, but now strats like Lucille are outdated, seeing as the cost got changed
the new ranger is actually viable in early game if yiu know how to farm properly. Usually place it down at wave 20 on fallen
Overall ranger became op it's just it's expensive as is like the price of the acell now
Hey Corso! You should also rank the reworked ranger skins and the skins from the previous events!
“light didn’t kill them the death note did” has the same energy as “I didn’t kill him the bullet did”.
and vegeta killed nappa, qui, zarbon, dodoria, the whole ginyu squad, a bunch of civilians when fighting android 18, and some more civilians when he went majin against goku,
I haven’t watched naruto and I’m not planning on but I’m sure you’re wrong on madara as well
Bro can you say what is better new ranger or mortar?
ranger used to be a speedrunning tower for the molten boss, this changes everything
Don’t forget that the ace pilot has change.
gmini was supposed to be 4th place and ranger was supposed to be 3rd so im happy that happend they just feel so much better to use
Try the black ops skin in the ranger, it looks sick!
7 seconds until next shot is crazy but this is where comander comes in play
actually i found it extremly easy to max out as if you farm early while your temate defend I found out I could max out ranger around wave 35 and had extra cash to place down other units.
nice vid and I like the rework ranger
However. Ranger rework is insane good. But we should know. What now cost completely bad. How to use accelerator and ranger now? Its completely so hard. If u want get 6 maxed rangers. you need take more than 250k money. Making dps bigger is good but accelerator still better. Otherwise i'm using only g minigunner with ranger.. at least. it can help.. but i'm not so sure.. Just get 5 or 4 max rangers and then place many g mini's. or reverse.
Good thing i had ranger since 2020 when i bought idk what i do on 2019
But it was fun when i use frost invasion skin!
Its somewhat of a nerf in its max total dps but the range, 20 sec range buff and the aoe I guess balances the nerf out
Commander
Lucille strat is ruined😢 but i alr have accel and engi so idk
let me correct u on some of the words said about ranger 1st of all
-max ranger is only good for tanky enemies or bosses its completely useless to make it target the little ones since its fire rate is so slow and 2nd
-the lvl 3 ranger might be better than the max since its a all rounder which means its just like old max ranger
Who here had the ranger when it used to be called a outlaw
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I do think this rework was needed, considering it was a tower that worked the same for years with occasional bug fixes. I do think it might get nerf considering that DAMAGE! But it is hard to tell.
No, even with the dj, it costs an absurd amount of money. They probably made the rework because one of the nights for the event is extremely hard
bro this is already a nerf
If it gets a nerf it will be gutted
@@Okayguysyususuit's not like everything other than single target dps got a buff
@@tapgames3465 rangers absolutely ass at crowd control lol and ion need allat range
honestly I liked more the old ranger, its higher single target dps and MOSTLY, the design, it looked more unique back then, I feel like the new design looks kinda generic
Do one for minigunner aswell as the new skins pls😊
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I bought ranger one day before the rework lol
When's this guy gonna do a vid on the new mini?
minigunner got a small buff but it now allows it to solo fallen mode with supports
yo rlly?
Not even a small buff mini used to do 70 dps now it does a whopping 103 dps and golden mini 140 dps 🥶
i prefer the old one honestly tried the rework in a few games i think overall its a nerf cant be used as ur main dps tower anymore from my experience the splash is decent but still struggles with breakers and the super slow firerate makes it feel useless w/o commander at max
How is it a nerf it does 1k+ dmg insane boss killer just bring accel
Or mini
Does 1k damage tho
@@Vross_MKII but so slow
@@Man_fard772Also has splash damage + cooler
@@phm904 i still miss the old one
I haven’t played the game in the year
the game has changed alot
no wonder ranger is so expensive to buy
I could imagine 25 max rework rangers 25k damage imagine 70k boss
You can only place 6 so 6x4 is 24 (excluding the 5/6 people bug)
What about mini gunner bro??
Golden mini is S tier too Since Its cheap and does really high dps and Its spammable
Just bcuz the dmg is REALLY high doesnt mean its the most op
Those who has the ranger gotta be happy rn for them buffing it
You forgot to say that the old level 3 ranger also got lead detection.
You mean lead penetration?
he still has lead detection
it got moved to level 0
@@piotrm5635 what I mean is that he didn't mention that the old ranger gained lead deatction at level 3
in my opinion i like the new ranger but i my idea of the rework he got a buff who him have hd (hidden detection) by a time of 30 or 25 second
If you have problems with low cash just place 15 coyboys on max and you will get so many cash
new one is better cause it gives the same impact of 10 old rangers while only needing 6, thats like, 4 free golden minigunners
The ranger has returned to his old roots with the explosion damage, however we cant stck him anymore and stcak his firerate ;(
Is their 2 engineer skins in the battlepass if their is I hope one of them goes to the crate bc that’s a waste of a spot
they could also buff bad towers like paint and demo, or you can play btd6, the best tower defense game, for only 15$ on PC or around 7 on mobile devices, and have access to all content in that game
Demo already got reworked paint baller is balling
@@leonardotrujillo8661 im not following the meta rn since tds is a bad game. whats new with demo and paint?
Corso now please show us all skins on ranger
I think he needs to be cheaper and have a placement on 8 to be good man because its so expensive and he takes a long time to kill the molten boss, warden killed the molten boss in like 8 secs but ranger takes a lot more of time honestly a really good rework but still needs some more dps to be worth the slot in my loadout i would give it a high A tier :)
it would be too op then. 10 old rangers are litterally almost equal to 6 new ones.
It's good You know when it can SHOOT MORE THAN 2 TIMES
still didnt update the renders
Only real og's remember the outlaw
I have been always a ranger user and this make me happy
If you're worried about the cost, I believe they are preparing for the next update. With it's new game mode
You got a point. The new gamemode probably gonna be harder than Fallen. So it means they can give you more money from the enemies since they got high hp. So they make Ranger and Minigunner have better stats but more expensive because you'll get more money
@@fathullahgaming9317to sum this up, harder gamemode = more cash gains
They mentioned chaos mode was gonna replace hardcore
@@Counltdookuit better not be
They should just overhaul hardcore so the main game has the same high quality as the events since solar eclipse
i mean ig increasing the firerate was the only way to make 1125 damage balanced but i feel like 7 seconds is too long
Jeez 63K?! Farms better be getting a buff or else I cant afford this.
It’s not that much bro
Where is the hidden dete- (Dies of yes again brcause pie for reason no of 1-10 blue=best number of the alphabet false, krabby patty triple bossy deluxe on a raft 4x4 animal style with extra shingles with a shimmey and a squeeze light axel grease make it cry, burn it, and let it swim.)
So ya saying the the new ranger have the explosive headshot upgrade from mvm tf2?
I got the ranger years ago lol i used to go bonkers with the laser party lol
The slow with the pumpkin head made me laugh
the new final upgrade cost is 35k in molten if that helps
Im kind of sad about this. I think it should be slightly buffed. Im talking about the explosion limit. Only 4 explosions for ranger? Nah.
Yay Ranger a upgrade
It kinda not really good at max lvl since it shoots very slow at max, i think place 6 lvl 3 rangers then max one by one
Accel rn:so back again on your feet old man???? (Ranger/outlaw is much older than accel yes?) Well lets begin round 2 shall we?
I feel like this is more of a nerf because now Ranger is so expensive it is literally only for late-game, and it even has less DPS and value in single target. Ranger's passive ability is also pretty useless as the 15% increase barely makes a dent in a tower ranger. You would much rather use DJ for range.
Not only that but it made it be a sub dps tower and no one used it as a main dps now as of August it got buffed and the placement limit is 7 and does 200 extra damage the average dps with all rangers is somewhere about 1370 dps
He is quite literally a "Range"r now
Idk if my math is right but i think it takes 22.8s to kill molten boss with coa and 30.4s with out coa and i think 48.8s kill fallen king with coa and 65.1s with out coa
( i just used a calculator to do the maths and dont even know if its right )
The ranger now costs 12k
Old ranger team
👇(I still like the ranger rework BUT, the reason I like old ranger better is because of the HUGE amount of money that you need for the reworked one)
good now do minigunner review