Dr. Darren Staloff, Alvin Gouldner

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  • @samuelamsterdam6215
    @samuelamsterdam6215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    thank you for the great lecture, Dr. Staloff may have unrealized potential as a disguise artist

    • @robinsarchiz
      @robinsarchiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not even Dr. Staloff. This man is a master of disguise and the art of the double-cross. We'll never know his true identity.

    • @modusoperandi4769
      @modusoperandi4769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @Nigelangelo85
      @Nigelangelo85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      my first impression was, oh boy a new professor!

    • @allisonandrews4719
      @allisonandrews4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please write that post-post-cold war spy novel. I’m not kidding. I’ll pre-order.

  • @philosopher2king
    @philosopher2king 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that I get to once again listen to these old Great Courses lectures like I did back in the VCR days, is such a treat!

  • @Citizen_J
    @Citizen_J 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Dr. Staloff has reached his final form!
    Another great lecture. Much appreciated.

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Dr. Staloff is not a Pokemon, he is a brilliant intellectual renegade like Gouldner himself.

    • @divinegon4671
      @divinegon4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dr.michaelsugrue ehh…. he’s a pokemon….

    • @HeretykDKn
      @HeretykDKn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.michaelsugrue in other words he is a kindred spirit of mine! 😁 would love to be taught under someone with these qualities. Btw great informative lecture. 😊

    • @studywithmir1994
      @studywithmir1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@dr.michaelsugrue Indeed he is, but Pokemon evolve, final form is usually more a DBZ concept. Thanks for keeping the channel alive :)

  • @The.Nasty.
    @The.Nasty. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Dang, it took me a moment to realize that’s actually Dr Staloff!
    Looking fresh with that goatee buddy!

  • @liamcaldwell7594
    @liamcaldwell7594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Dr Staloff lookin thug af this lecture.

  • @josephasghar
    @josephasghar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I note the loss of his ponytail has not diminished Dr Staloff’s capacity to make me feel intellectually nascent.

  • @TehPieLuver
    @TehPieLuver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I dont think many of us expected ponytail-less Dr. Staloff, but here we are

  • @toadfaceass
    @toadfaceass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I guess the 'Hans Gruber' was a popular look in the 90's

  • @ReynaSingh
    @ReynaSingh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for these lectures

    • @divinegon4671
      @divinegon4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where tf is my sandwich?

    • @xaaacia7611
      @xaaacia7611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@divinegon4671 Yo momma hasn't brought it down to the basement yet. When I'm done with her I'll let her know your hungry.

  • @OnerousEthic
    @OnerousEthic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the most lucid, valid, and defensible condemnation of the Republican Party and American Oligarchy that I have ever seen or heard!
    Well done brothers Darren and Michael! Paragons of truth and justice on this barren planet!

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The Democratic Party is at least equally depraved, both parties are equally oligarchical. Dr. Staloff may be a paragon, but I'm merely close to gone.

    • @OnerousEthic
      @OnerousEthic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.michaelsugrue Yes, yes, yes!! The Demoscats are just sock puppets, animated by the left hand of The Oligarchic Overlord, while the Republitard theater is produced with the right. Those diversions have been adequate to the suppression of democratic reform for two hundred years, but The Twin Towers of idealist perspective, built on the shoulders of giants, have produced the antidote for that poison, and we are in awe. Your existence, and your reply, are Nietzschian affirmations that exceed all expectations. My cup runneth over!!! Thank you brothers!!
      BTW, your humor, self-depreciation, and charming false modesty merely fan the flames of my admiration…

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.michaelsugrue I agree with your political assessment, although I think the Woke Left's capture of the truth-seeking, and sense-making institutions of the culture represents a greater and more durable threat than the authoritarian populism of the Trumpists. The Woke own the episteme, and they are young.
      Also, don't be moribund, Michael; your work is highly appreciated, and will last a long time. Well-done, and thank you.

    • @thewealthofnations4827
      @thewealthofnations4827 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How do you get that out of this? It's a scathing rebuke of the Marxists.

  • @DelandaBaudLacanian
    @DelandaBaudLacanian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    10:21 - Ideologies unmask each other by exposing the hidden or occluded interests behind a particular ideology
    🔥🔥🔥

  • @devilsadvocate7389
    @devilsadvocate7389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was great. I found myself agreeing with every argument made in here. It completely changed my mind of what Marxism is.

  • @Henchgirl7342
    @Henchgirl7342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So weird how a hair cut and a clean shave can make a whole new person.

    • @svalbard01
      @svalbard01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pony tail and shave, or high-and-tight with the gotee... I've bought used cars from guys rocking both looks. Dr. S pulls them both off with aplomb!

  • @michaelprenez-isbell8672
    @michaelprenez-isbell8672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Gouldner lecture! Thanks, Mike! Looking forward to this. I remember being in some awful New Jersey train station listening to this on a cassette player in 1993 or so, after I'd ordered the supplementary lectures set from TTC, it was the one bright spot of the trip.

  • @MultiStu08
    @MultiStu08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just read the trilogy, absolutely brilliant.

  • @AlexanderKoryagin
    @AlexanderKoryagin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you so much for this!

    • @voralom494
      @voralom494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Alex for your HSE series on Political Philosophy, i really enjoyed it!

    • @AlexanderKoryagin
      @AlexanderKoryagin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@voralom494 Thanks for the feedback, I tried my best! :)

  • @bloodyfinn1694
    @bloodyfinn1694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys make lecturing into an art.

  • @pyramida2763
    @pyramida2763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking fresh Mr. Staloff!!

  • @tylerbotzon7174
    @tylerbotzon7174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just finished the trilogy and have been waiting for this lecture!

  • @studywithmir1994
    @studywithmir1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So good to see this keeps going, and with great lectures, never even heard about Gouldner. I was afraid Dr Sugrue would end his archaive eventually, it is really a give to have dr Staloff also. Being said that I have to say Dr Staloff getting on the Dark side of the dialectics and the dead of the philosophical younlings after cutting his phdwan braidtail with a lightcenturysaber.
    I am sorry.

  • @bokagoofy
    @bokagoofy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't even recognize Dr. Staloff at first, but when I got over the shock I now think this new look is very stylish. Great lecture as always, I can't get enough of this content.

  • @TheRussianBoot
    @TheRussianBoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video, thank you for this!

  • @lorenzotomescu5123
    @lorenzotomescu5123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the most important lectures I’ve heard!

  • @7celestialtrumpets
    @7celestialtrumpets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Truly illuminating

  • @sanduceroable
    @sanduceroable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great lecture! I'd add to your list of revolutions in communications (cheap paper, etc) the huge role of the telegraph, aka the beginning of the electric circuitry. In 1851, three after the manifesto, a cable underwater connected Canada and London. Battles and civil wars were won or lost thanks to the cable and the train. The telegram created a new style of writing: symbolism, bc you had to pay per letter, so every word became poetic, loaded with meaning, and anticipated text and life today

  • @ryans3001
    @ryans3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You!

  • @ktuluflux
    @ktuluflux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He went from the cool, just finished my post doc bro to the post tenure having dinner with the dean doyen of academia.

  • @nonplussed7181
    @nonplussed7181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. That was fantastic.

  • @user-dn5kn8qf9u
    @user-dn5kn8qf9u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh what the hell? He's like a totally different person

  • @CatsRidingHorses
    @CatsRidingHorses 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredibly interesting

  • @avecus
    @avecus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Mexico we have a great book called De los libros al poder (by Gabriel Zaid), which is about this.

  • @samismx
    @samismx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody know what the titles / isbns are for the 3 volumes of The Dark Side Of The Dialectic? Can it be found in one binding?

  • @maxnul
    @maxnul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Around minute 17 yes, the lecture proved to be right even in the future; being a venezuelan national this only resonates so much with what the Chavistas did in my country

  • @mikemcdermott393
    @mikemcdermott393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing. Been waiting on this one since the Conclusion of Cultural Criticism lecture. Staloff should have kept the short hair

  • @Jahmilli
    @Jahmilli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    punished Staloff arc

  • @j4ckson206
    @j4ckson206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    More mustache, please

  • @ocalipigio4507
    @ocalipigio4507 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was this recorded?

  • @johncracker5217
    @johncracker5217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is that professor???!!😂

  • @krakenmcbubble6275
    @krakenmcbubble6275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoa

  • @arjunratnadev
    @arjunratnadev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bearded look suits more on Dr. Darren

  • @graalcloud
    @graalcloud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of scientists and marxists think their ideology eludes all type of spiritual or platonic-absolutist thinking. And I thought that was the case for most of my life too. But I've spent a lot more time now looking into it and Marxist ideas actually come from dialectical materialism, which in its own part spawned from the "lunatics" who believed all sorts of odd stuff after Newton had written his theory of gravitation when an apple hit him on the head. Newton did not use reductionism to come to this theory but rather used a practice called "divination" or sometimes called "augury".
    In the ancient world, say Rome for example we know they did this, they used this practice of augury where they would examine the flight of birds or the entrails of animals, and by interpreting that data they would divine all sorts of laws and predictions.
    I had not thought more of this until I read Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes, and in this book in the last chapter Jaynes points out the many ways in which Science is no different than this ancient practice of omen-seeking called augury. And I do believe he has made a good point in drawing the connection, that the aim of ancient spiritual practices and the aim of science are both to divine the Law, which can seem to be very commanding in both circumstances (aka "objective").

    • @grippercrapper
      @grippercrapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The crux of what Newton did was to start with the assumption that the moon was falling just like the apple. Figuring out the variable that made the moon appear to be different from the falling apple, velocity, had all sorts of practical applications that would inevitably follow. The assumption was the leap.

  • @fuanon3441
    @fuanon3441 ปีที่แล้ว

    also at the end he states the theory that capitalism didnt arise in china and india because they didnt have a property class turning into a bourgeoise. however , Japan did develop nascent capitalism on its own in the dojima rice exchange which was like a proto stock exchange
    (World's First Futures Exchange - ... In the Edo period (1603-1867)). wonder if Japan comparatively had more of a propertied class than the rest of asia?

  • @drkissinger1
    @drkissinger1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long live these UChicago alums still flying the flag of intellectual seriousness.

  • @OnerousEthic
    @OnerousEthic ปีที่แล้ว

    Gentlemen of culture! Why am I not surprised that you bring the same level of superficiality here as everywhere else?

  • @dionysianapollomarx
    @dionysianapollomarx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never heard of Gouldner. It would seem he does for Marx what Foucault and Derrida also kind of do. In a way. That is interesting.

  • @CuShorts
    @CuShorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audio is out of sync with video -_-

  • @granitstudenica1066
    @granitstudenica1066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is an example of visual media de-ideologizing us against traditional authority, Dr. Staloff, who is in turn explicitly ideologizing us in socratic marxism which de-ideologizes against ideology, which we have voluntary ascented to in the face of its explicit assumptions or interfences.

  • @OnerousEthic
    @OnerousEthic ปีที่แล้ว

    23:03 The intelligentsia is a flawed universal class? Excuse me? 😧
    43:50 “Moral philosophy might be all about the platonic complex”

  • @MrBernardthecow
    @MrBernardthecow ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great critique of marxism. It tears it apart from Marx's own work

  • @christopher.saint.christopher
    @christopher.saint.christopher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has the Professor read/considered covering Industrial Society and Its Future by Ted Kaczynski?

  • @pendejo6466
    @pendejo6466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No more lectures until the ponytail returns!

  • @izzya2702
    @izzya2702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Marxist view on marriage?

  • @OnerousEthic
    @OnerousEthic ปีที่แล้ว

    To our brothers Michael and Darren
    Old men forget; and all shall be forgot,
But we'll remember, with advantages,
The posts you made to TH-cam. Then shall your names,
Familiar in our mouths as household words-
Sugrue and Staloff-
Be in our flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
The web you wove shall the good men teach their sons;
And the fight against Fascism shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be triumphant -
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that shares right mind with us
Shall be our brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now offline
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any posts
In agreement with your idealist truth for democratic reformation
    On this sacred, blessed, daseinian day.

  • @user-hu3iy9gz5j
    @user-hu3iy9gz5j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:36 Orobourous, a snake eating its own tail
    11:19 All sciences, even Natural Science, are founded upon leading assumption or ultimate givens. A science of cause and effect can certainly be persued with private property as an ultimate given
    14:50 🎉
    The exact reason why Marx' analysis of societal struggle for political dominance is mistaken. Almost never has the political struggle been fought between slaves and masters, for how could such a struggle occur between two groups having such disperate interests?
    Instead, the key players in revolutions and regime changes could be conceived of as aspiring masters outcompeting conventional masters

  • @wolvie_b
    @wolvie_b ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol Conservatives are like "I hate postmodernists, they're purely negative, they don't give any solutions to the problems they point out!... Oh I love that Alvin Gouldner! He's purely negative! He only criticizes and doesn't offer any solutions!"

    • @mrbreeze9116
      @mrbreeze9116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe because by the sound of this lecture it seems that he points out the problems with Marxism, an ideology that conservatives are skeptical of.

  • @fuanon3441
    @fuanon3441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marxism is not a science except in the 19th cent sense of the german word "wissenschaft". Besides that good lecture

    • @fuanon3441
      @fuanon3441 ปีที่แล้ว

      i see he addresses this point at the end somewhat

  • @zadaszenie
    @zadaszenie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He eventually cut that stupid ponytail ? Thank god

    • @Tom-rg2ex
      @Tom-rg2ex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The ponytail was glorious and its loss makes me more mournful than Socrates' students at his prison cell in the book of Phaedo.

    • @betafever6579
      @betafever6579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Tom-rg2ex ahahahahah the ponytail was majestic.