Really appreciate all your videos. If i'm having an issue or have a question about something specific, you always seem to have the answers I need. Really great channel!!
@@andrewsaraceni so what about the SONY ZV-E1, is it similar across all cameras because i’ve noticed the iso values i’ve been using has been pretty clean lately
@@OGPRODDY The ZV-E1 is going to follow the a7S III/FX3's model, so it's different. I have a video that covers that though: th-cam.com/video/2Mktxhpie1E/w-d-xo.html
Hey mate, you have an awesome channel, I have learnt a lot, really appreciate it! Would love if you did some videos showing how plan and capture footage to allow easier editing, specifically transitions. Cheers!
Great video! Would setting up an auto iso limitation of 800-12800 work for PP8 as a way to hand over some exposure decisions to the camera, or would that cause a variable noise floor in post that would be a headache to deal with?
Ok, interesting update. I did my own tests on the A7CR (I was assuming it would be the same a the A7R5, but my cleanest ISOs are 800 and 3200. I'm also curious about the dynamic range drop-off below base ISO 800. In the same way that 12800 can be "usable" in terms of noise, what would be "usable" in terms of picture quality and dynamic range below 800?
@@mandobaron I would still want manual control of ISO and be inclined to stick to 800 and 2500, vs. an Auto ISO range, as your results/mileage may vary with in-between values depending on the shooting situation, lighting, etc.
How about shooting the night sky with A7RV? I had a lot of trouble trying to catch the Northern Lights on camera with A7RV, I'm not a pro, but I've got too much noise in it as I had to raise the ISO to very high values. Is there any tip or setting that may perform it better? I couldn't even remove to a fair level in post. :) Again, I'm not a pro, just knowing my camera better now.
I would aim for a more shallow depth of field (e.g. f/2.8 or below), and try to do a longer exposure with a tripod or monopod to use a slower shutter speed.
Thanks@@andrewsaraceni , I use 14mm f/1.8, I'm getting the new sigma 14mm f/1.4 for next month as I read wonderful things about it. If i bring the shutter speed too slow it looks like I was shooting with an old Nokia phone. lol
Hey! I want to start shooting video at clubs (low light) and a friend of mine whos using A7s3 told me i might run into problems and too much noise in poorly lit places. What are my options besides getting a different camera? I am not so sure how to begin testing this at home to practice for a real scenario.
Great video Andrew! im planning on buying a new sony camera. I work with both video and photo and i'm struggling between the A7RV and the A7IV. I really want the A7RV but the only thing that is stopping me from making the decision is not knowing if it has the dual ISO 12800 on video mode. Something that i love of the A7IV and A7S3 its the exposure without noise that i can get with the 12800 ISO in PP8 slog3. Does the Sony A7RV has the same feature in video mode PP8 ISO12800? thx!!!
Thanks! Only the a7S III/FX3 has the dual ISO at 12800. Both the a7IV and a7R V have it as well, but at a lower dual value (in S-Log3, 2500 for the a7R V, and 3200 for the a7 IV). I have a video that talks about the a7 IV's dual ISO: th-cam.com/video/FOJrZ14Z7Mo/w-d-xo.html
@@andrewsaraceni thank you for your answer andrew! which one do you think would be best for me between the A74 and A7R5? considering that i do both, photo and video
@@estebanpenovi315 No problem, they're both fantastic. Probably the a7 IV if you're 50/50 photo and video, or the a7R V if you're more into photo or have a little bit more to spend.
@@NataliyaStepanova-e9z I would double check you're using S-Log3/PP8 - 2500 is the 2nd dual (high) ISO for that PP. But 3200 might not be far off noise-performance wise compared to 2500 anyway.
I always thought a lower ISO is always better. So you're saying it's better to use these base ISO values like 800 in SLog-3 instead of something like 100 even if there is plenty of light?
I would opt for shooting the Base ISO in S-Log3 (so yes, 800), but you can still get clean shots using the lower extended ISO range in many conditions.
@@andrewsaraceni Ok, thanks. So even in bright light, 800 should have lower noise than for example, 100. I never realized this but I'm not a professional photographer, not even an amateur photographer, just some idiot with a camera🙂 I'm going to be doing some storm chasing next month and this frequently puts you into low light conditions. I just got the A7RV but I also have an A7SIII so I'm thinking the best plan is to use the SIII for video and the RV for stills, both in SLog-3. I believe the SIII base ISO is 640 so I assume start with the 640 on SIII and 800 on the RV and move up the 3x+ when lower light requires it.
@@mfkhometheater7742 That sounds like a good plan re: the a7S III and the a7R V (for video and stills, respectively). Though the ISO rules are different for the a7S III; I have a video on that: th-cam.com/video/2Mktxhpie1E/w-d-xo.html
Really appreciate all your videos. If i'm having an issue or have a question about something specific, you always seem to have the answers I need. Really great channel!!
Thanks, glad to hear this is helpful to you!
Great content as always
Your gonna be at a million subscribers this year 🤙
Thanks! We'll see how far we get this year... haha
glad i’ve seen this, so every 5 stops the iso range is cleaned up basically, because i’ve been doing that and my shots are much cleaner
Technically it's 1.7 stops (5 clicks of a 1/3 stop of light on the ISO wheel), but yeah, that's how they've implemented it in the a7R V.
@@andrewsaraceni so what about the SONY ZV-E1, is it similar across all cameras because i’ve noticed the iso values i’ve been using has been pretty clean lately
@@OGPRODDY The ZV-E1 is going to follow the a7S III/FX3's model, so it's different. I have a video that covers that though: th-cam.com/video/2Mktxhpie1E/w-d-xo.html
@@andrewsaraceni perfect
Great Video brother!
Thanks!
Hey mate, you have an awesome channel, I have learnt a lot, really appreciate it! Would love if you did some videos showing how plan and capture footage to allow easier editing, specifically transitions. Cheers!
Thanks Michael! I have a bunch of editing-related videos (for FCPX) on the channel that are relevant, but I'll think about covering that specifically.
Hey man thank you so much for making this video! I was just gonna test this tomorrow. Does the same apply for Slog-2?
No problem Lukas! Yes the same rules/system applies for S-Log2 as well.
Hello,
Do you know if it is the same on A7riv?
Thank you so much for your time explaining these interesting infos !
No problem, can't say for sure if the a7R IV is the same or not - haven't gotten my hands on one to test.
SUPER helpful. THANK YOU!
No problem, Karl!
How do you explain the A7sIII having a dual ISO of 640 and 12800 if we are applying the multiplying method?
a7S III has an entirely different system, in terms of the numbers/math. I cover that in this video: th-cam.com/video/2Mktxhpie1E/w-d-xo.html
Great video! Would setting up an auto iso limitation of 800-12800 work for PP8 as a way to hand over some exposure decisions to the camera, or would that cause a variable noise floor in post that would be a headache to deal with?
Ok, interesting update. I did my own tests on the A7CR (I was assuming it would be the same a the A7R5, but my cleanest ISOs are 800 and 3200. I'm also curious about the dynamic range drop-off below base ISO 800. In the same way that 12800 can be "usable" in terms of noise, what would be "usable" in terms of picture quality and dynamic range below 800?
@@mandobaron I would still want manual control of ISO and be inclined to stick to 800 and 2500, vs. an Auto ISO range, as your results/mileage may vary with in-between values depending on the shooting situation, lighting, etc.
does it apply to stills? what is the best value to pick? obviously the lowest values but without the line below the digits?
Yes it applies to stills as well, I talk about this around 1:30 and 3:55.
How about shooting the night sky with A7RV? I had a lot of trouble trying to catch the Northern Lights on camera with A7RV, I'm not a pro, but I've got too much noise in it as I had to raise the ISO to very high values. Is there any tip or setting that may perform it better? I couldn't even remove to a fair level in post. :) Again, I'm not a pro, just knowing my camera better now.
I would aim for a more shallow depth of field (e.g. f/2.8 or below), and try to do a longer exposure with a tripod or monopod to use a slower shutter speed.
Thanks@@andrewsaraceni , I use 14mm f/1.8, I'm getting the new sigma 14mm f/1.4 for next month as I read wonderful things about it. If i bring the shutter speed too slow it looks like I was shooting with an old Nokia phone. lol
Hey! I want to start shooting video at clubs (low light) and a friend of mine whos using A7s3 told me i might run into problems and too much noise in poorly lit places. What are my options besides getting a different camera? I am not so sure how to begin testing this at home to practice for a real scenario.
I actually recorded a video recently around low light shooting that might help: th-cam.com/video/PEANK5sZh1c/w-d-xo.html
Great video Andrew! im planning on buying a new sony camera.
I work with both video and photo and i'm struggling between the A7RV and the A7IV. I really want the A7RV but the only thing that is stopping me from making the decision is not knowing if it has the dual ISO 12800 on video mode.
Something that i love of the A7IV and A7S3 its the exposure without noise that i can get with the 12800 ISO in PP8 slog3. Does the Sony A7RV has the same feature in video mode PP8 ISO12800?
thx!!!
Thanks! Only the a7S III/FX3 has the dual ISO at 12800. Both the a7IV and a7R V have it as well, but at a lower dual value (in S-Log3, 2500 for the a7R V, and 3200 for the a7 IV). I have a video that talks about the a7 IV's dual ISO: th-cam.com/video/FOJrZ14Z7Mo/w-d-xo.html
@@andrewsaraceni thank you for your answer andrew! which one do you think would be best for me between the A74 and A7R5? considering that i do both, photo and video
@@estebanpenovi315 No problem, they're both fantastic. Probably the a7 IV if you're 50/50 photo and video, or the a7R V if you're more into photo or have a little bit more to spend.
@@andrewsaraceni hi! In my a7rV, 2th value - 3200 if i use slog-3. On 2500 iso i have a more noise than at 3200. Why all say a 2500 2th number?
@@NataliyaStepanova-e9z I would double check you're using S-Log3/PP8 - 2500 is the 2nd dual (high) ISO for that PP. But 3200 might not be far off noise-performance wise compared to 2500 anyway.
very interesting info, thank you
No problem!
Would you say that at 12800 shooting video it's a lot noisier than a A7iv??
Not a lot, but I would say you'll see more noise above the high ISO, given the difference between the two (2500 vs. 3200 for S-Log3).
So here high ISO mean the place where the dual native ISO kicks in ?
Yes, that's a good way to think of it.
Great Video
Thanks Joe!
What about in photo mode?
Same idea - check the points in the video when I talk about Still/Photo (PP2 or PPOff).
I always thought a lower ISO is always better. So you're saying it's better to use these base ISO values like 800 in SLog-3 instead of something like 100 even if there is plenty of light?
I would opt for shooting the Base ISO in S-Log3 (so yes, 800), but you can still get clean shots using the lower extended ISO range in many conditions.
@@andrewsaraceni Ok, thanks. So even in bright light, 800 should have lower noise than for example, 100. I never realized this but I'm not a professional photographer, not even an amateur photographer, just some idiot with a camera🙂
I'm going to be doing some storm chasing next month and this frequently puts you into low light conditions. I just got the A7RV but I also have an A7SIII so I'm thinking the best plan is to use the SIII for video and the RV for stills, both in SLog-3. I believe the SIII base ISO is 640 so I assume start with the 640 on SIII and 800 on the RV and move up the 3x+ when lower light requires it.
@@mfkhometheater7742 That sounds like a good plan re: the a7S III and the a7R V (for video and stills, respectively). Though the ISO rules are different for the a7S III; I have a video on that: th-cam.com/video/2Mktxhpie1E/w-d-xo.html
Does this apply to a7CR?
Yes! Same ISO rules apply.
@@andrewsaraceni thanks!
TEAM SONY 😊🎉❤.
It's a great team to be on. 🙂
Great vid thx
No problem, Christian!
Is the dual Iso only for video or does it work for photos too?
It works for photos as well, see around the 3:55 mark.
@@andrewsaraceni Great thanks I will :)
But Sony A7R V doesn't have official dual base iso 😂
It may not be "official" by Sony, but it's fairly known and testable as the examples show. 🙂
@@andrewsaraceniIs there dual ISO in r7v settings???
@@grg.000 There's nothing in the settings to indicate it, so you have to just know it.