How To Corner in a Bike Race or Group Ride

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
  • A 19 minute explanation of the racing line, the DiveBomb, the Outside Line and the Lay Off. I talk about how I used to save energy in races or gain positions when it was needed the most, If you've other tips or tricks that I've quite easily missed pleased drop them in the comments below!
    00:23 Racing line
    01:31 Why a racing line makes a corner look less scary
    03:09 Wet racing line
    04:32 The Lay Off
    07:48 The Divebomb & Concertina Effect
    11:37 The Roundabout
    12:56 A fine Divebomb example
    13:32 The Lay Off gone wrong
    14:38 The Divebomb gone wrong
    16:32 The Outside Line
    18:27 The time you can gain on a bunched peloton in One Corner
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  • @FreeMTrider
    @FreeMTrider 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Two of the fundamentals that I may have missed in your vid.....(thanks for posting by the way!)
    novice and experienced riders doing
    1. Brake too much
    2. Do not lean enough

  • @xlcobra7725
    @xlcobra7725 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Can you do a riding in the pack skills video? Like how to avoid crashes and save energy?

    • @judechamberlain7580
      @judechamberlain7580 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Some pack tips I'm not a pro but I've raced with a few:
      If your not moving up your moving backwards
      If you think your 10th your 20th and if you think your 20th your 30th and so on
      The bunch will usually be an arrow shape and that and the best place is to be in the middle of the arrow but everyone is also trying to get to that point and you will find your self slipping back if not following tip 1
      It's hard to avoid crashes but the further forward you are the less people there are yo crash in front of you but try to be relaxed and look forwards it's easy to stare at the back hub of the rider infront but make sure you look 10-15 meters in front it helps spotting obstacles and also when the bunch waves like a snake a small thing such as a rider loosing a bottle can cause a massive ripple in the bunch and being able to spot that can help you save energy and avoid crashes
      Communication is very important with other riders even if you just yell AY or OIL the usualy get the gist I even if you not speaking the same language but you have to let them know your there if you watch some race onbords from Velon especially in the sprints shows how important it is also a small tap on the hip also helps but not all riders like that
      get used to contact even when traing whit friends if you can get used to bumping shoulders and elbows with them it can help become comfortable with riding in close proximity with other riders
      Be relaxed and just follow the flow and be comfortable with riders on all sides and not be worried and sometimes you will need to just cover the breaks but it can also use up alot of mental energy if you're too stressed out
      Finally learn where the wind is coming from it is alot easier to ride in shelter than in the wind even and knowing how the bunch responds to wind changes is another essay of a comment 😅
      Finally moving up best place is on the side often there are small places where you can jump up a few places and over a few miles it can mean you can get where you need to be you just need to think in advance where you need to position your self for key sections in a race be that a corner before cross winds and climbs it is possible to move up through the middle of the bunch but it is very hard to do and leave you more vulnerable to crashes but will save you more energy peter saran is one rider who was exceptionally good at this but it also leaves no where to go in the case of a crash where as the sides leave you with a muddy ditch as a promising alternative
      So sorry for the massive list
      But hope this helps in your racing

    • @xlcobra7725
      @xlcobra7725 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great!@@judechamberlain7580

    • @rider65
      @rider65 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ugh🙄

  • @Rafael-vu2xn
    @Rafael-vu2xn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey cool channel, thank´s for all the interesting content. All the best for you and greetings from Finland!

  • @rider65
    @rider65 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are 2-3 approaches to Any Corner. A tight line, the racing line and a wide also known as squaring the corner off. The most critical part of a corner is always the exit. And also yes when others are on the brakes and you lay off the brakes you have more control and you are able to navigate the line easier. Whenever you're on the brakes you compromise control. It's a matter of physics. Lateral forces, vertical forces, centrifugal forces, etc.

  • @simonfrost8279
    @simonfrost8279 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid Alex, that section showing the dive bomb not executed correctly is something I know I need to improve 👍

  • @mrazik9365
    @mrazik9365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    love these vids

  • @bleigh6562
    @bleigh6562 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video wish I had someone telling me this so many years ago.
    Thank you

  • @phoenixinthetrees1446
    @phoenixinthetrees1446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Really interesting, with great footage to show each point.
    Could I suggest some improvements? A better quality mic would help, particularly for a 'talky' video. Timestamps for the different sections, and perhaps titles on the screen for each one would also break things up and make it easier to refer back to in future. PS. How's the mountain biking coming along? I'm hopeful you'll give it a go at some point in the season...

    • @AlexDowsettOfficial
      @AlexDowsettOfficial  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Ah yes, I forgot the chapters, appreciate the heads up, will add them in this evening
      The mix issue comes up a lot, I’ve got so many, none of them good enough it seems. Need perhaps a podcasting one.
      Cheers 👌

    • @russellspeight5175
      @russellspeight5175 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dampening the sound makes a world of difference without getting a new mic. Loads of tips on how to do this on TH-cam 👍​@@AlexDowsettOfficial

    • @phoenixinthetrees1446
      @phoenixinthetrees1446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AlexDowsettOfficial Thanks, Alex. I also thought you could do some complementary videos about bike-handling skills - dive-bombing in particular - about being on the hoods or the drops; body position, weighting, braking, etc. You could also do a follow-up to the race in which you had to brake behind a crash on how to brake in an emergency. I'm sure plenty more ideas will come up or could be suggested by viewers.

    • @AlexDowsettOfficial
      @AlexDowsettOfficial  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Really appreciate the constuctive feedback. I've ordered a podcasting mic and was planning on doing a dissection of that crash next, I felt like the chap in red got more stick for it than he should've.
      Braking is a big one I think potentially (?) How to apply brakes in an emergency stop scenario which is even more important with disc brakes now as.
      Thank you again

    • @phoenixinthetrees1446
      @phoenixinthetrees1446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlexDowsettOfficial You're welcome. I look forward to the future videos and new and improved audio! 😁

  • @user-ie2fp3dk2w
    @user-ie2fp3dk2w 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    concentration and awareness of other riders is obviously massively important.. the go pro images showing just how 'fast and furious' it is. just how much information may you be given by the team directors regarding the road layouts at pre race briefings.. do the other riders in the team discuss the same during the racing

  • @superpaulodonnell
    @superpaulodonnell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Sometimes I shout dive-bomb as I’m doing it” 😂😂 putting that tip in my back pocket.
    Huge thanks for these videos you’re doing Alex, really learning and re-learning a lot.

  • @rider65
    @rider65 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, the more you lean the slower the machine. Radius determines speed. Also with regard to apexes, there are usually two apexes to a corner you will have your geographical Apex- i.e. (the highest point of the corner) and you have what is known as the racing Apex. Sometimes it can be prior or after the geographical Apex.

  • @pauldyerdyer2731
    @pauldyerdyer2731 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the fact the opening corner was down the hill to where I work!

  • @umbertobrugnatelli2816
    @umbertobrugnatelli2816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Alex! Love your videos, really good content!! BUT there is something you could do to make it even better, you should buy a proper MICROPHONE , the sound quality you have isn’t very good. But other than that I really enjoy watching your videos, continue! 💪💪

  • @MrBoggins1234
    @MrBoggins1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👌