Barbarian (2022) MOVIE REACTION! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!
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7mins in and I am cracking up at you two trying to figure this out. That was all of us and we were ALL WRONG!!!! LOL
This is just 1 of MANY amazing horror movies that came out in 2022, Smile, The Menu, The Black Phone, X, Pearl, Scream 5, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Nope, Prey, Bones and All, Terrifier 2, Ext.
Bodies bodies bodies and scream v aren’t the best horror
2022 was a fucking fantastic year.
2022 legit one of the best years for horror I've ever seen. All the films you mentioned are good to phenominal, with some all-timers in there for me.
And it's so crazy how, in comparison, 2023 has been pretty lackluster overall for the genre. Other than Talk to Me, there have been no original major horror films released yet this year
@@maxlopez7671 they're better than yours
The collapse of Detroit’s auto industry is why neighborhoods like that exist. Abandoned cars, abandoned houses. It isn’t just a creepy setting for the movie, it’s a reality that Detroit is only recently starting to improve.
Came here to say something similar “what is that place???” Detroit, good sir. That place is Detroit.
I believe at one point that Detroit was the wealthiest city in the western hemisphere.
they also touch on it in the movie but white flight also happened.
Rich in Black American culture as far as music goes as well.
"white flight" and the race riots during the 60's is also a factor
Just for reference (because I haven't seen a single person pick up on it): Barbarian here is referring to both the old guy in the house and the offspring/daughter/victim/main antagonist. Attaching the -ian suffix to a place makes it an adjective describing the inhabitants of said place (e.g., a Bavarian is an inhabitant of Bavaria). Since the house is on Barbary Street, the old man and the offspring are both "Barbarians," hence the title.
Fuuuuuck you just blew my mind with this. The Barbary/Barbarian connection is the only legit link to the name of the film I've seen. The two owners of the house on Barbary are the 2 antagonists.
And, of course, Tess almost becomes a "Barbarian" herself.
I always thought it was cool that the name of the street was similar, but shiiiiiiid, this is insight.
That’s clever-l hadn’t thought about that.
Justin Long was the Barbarian to me. The woman in the basement was an unfortunate product of her also Barbaric father.
The ending hit me because she just wanted a child and to live like the happy people on the screen but she only knew violence because if she didn’t behave, I assume her father was violent.
Yeah. It actually makes me really really sad in the last few moments.
That serial killer guy. Ffffffuuuuuuuccc.....
Gotta love how people will make excuses for violent females and not for males who commit the same crimes.
@@SnailHatan Thank you for replying to me from beyond the grave
At first I never understood how this creature or women become like this. But when you explain it makes sense. I just thought we get a little more understanding of what the weirdo was doing to these women I that room. I’m not saying they should have shown the violence cause letting our imaginations decide was good enough, I just hated how we had only one scene of him being a weirdo to understand a little
More what occurred in the house. Like one more scene of the women being captive and showing how he was a evil son of bitch
"Be My Baby" playing over the credits is a nice final touch.
When I first saw this movie I honestly didn't know if I liked it or not. Looking back at it though, I really appreciate the tonal shifts and the fact that it's so unpredictable- I mean who could have predicted that cut from the tunnel to Justin Long singing in his car? It makes it hard to pin down what kind of horror this film is, which I kinda like. Also, loved that as the credits started rolling they played "Be My Baby" 😆
100% agree. I watched it in the cinema with my buds and… none of us were sure if we liked it. After my second watch I could appreciate it more and I’m a fan.
End reminded me of the hard cut to blue moon in American werewolf in London
I'd say your criticisms on the scare factor line up with my own, but differ on what it means for the movie. For me, the scariest part was Tess finding that second set of stairs leading further down below the house, and I felt the tension deflate the second the Creature appeared on the screen. If my sole appreciate for the movie was based on how much it could deliver scares, that would be the end for me. But it's not. To say "there was a bit of a message to it" is an understatement.
Since reactions have to cut things up, I have to assume that when editing you feel the need to focus on what you think are the most important scenes. To me, cutting out AJ's talk with his agents, his conversation with his friend in the bar, the flashback with the home's original owner, and AJ seeing the tapes made by the owner indicates that they were not as high-priority, when to me, those are what the movie is actually *about.* The kind of creature the monster was wasn't picked from a dartboard to justify what was going on, it represented a festering of male abuse in the world, parallel to Justin Long's character. Through those scenes, we are repeatedly shown exactly what kind of person AJ is, from his outright denial, to lashing out at his victim, to admitting to what he did to his friend in the bar but not seeing anything wrong with it, to calling his victim, to refusing to listen to Tess, to shooting her, to using her as bait. It's abuse after abuse after abuse that's he's building up, but as long as he's confidently moving forward and dismissing blame, he can keep going.
It may not make for something that delivers as much tension or scares per minute as the beginning, but it's not really trying to do that. It just shifted focus. How much that resonates comes down to the viewer.
THIS!!! 💯 allllll of this!
Great comment and so true - the scenes you mention are the whole point.
Yeah this isn't the best edit, zzavid did it better
100%! Seeing what they cut from their reaction was a shock to me because those scenes, especially the backstory about the owner of the house, were important in terms of the movie's major themes and who the real "barbarian" is.
Agreed. They should have known better cutting them. It's odd for them not to catch that
I love the difference between the 2 characters going downstairs. When Tess is about to go in you're wishing she wouldn't. As soon as you find out Justin Long is a you-know-what-ist it's like ok let her have him 😂
Lmao both your faces at the moment the end credits started. I'm dying!! 😂😂
Barbarian are indeed the man in the basement and Justin Longs character 👍🏻 Poor Keith 😱 We all thought he was the bad one 🤦🏼♀️ xx 💋
I agree but it works as a trick cause when I see him in my head I’m like it’s “it” so I assumed he was already the bad guy cause he already played one on another movie before this I think that’s why he’s in the first half to makes us assume he’s going to be a villain here as well
Might honestly be one of my favorite horror films ever. It's so incredibly unique and the casting deserves so much praise. The characters in this film would not be the same without the incredible casting. Never seen another film like this one
“How is she so strong?”
“Drinkin all that milk mate.”
😂😂😂😂
what I liked best about this movie was how different it was and how I legit had no idea what was going to happen next. def one of the more unpredictable movies I've seen in a while
I love how this film players with casting: it sets up Bill Skarsgård as someone we know gets typecast as a creepy villains, and has him act very suspicious, and then has Justin Long who we know *should* be the comic relief or victim, and then just says "Nope" and knocks the legs out from under you and subverts the typecasting. Great casting, and great acting in every role. The plot is a little weak at the end yes, but you have to love the way this films plays with your expectations.
also, “Barbarian” uses only the same letters as “air BnB”. If you’re looking for another “Air BnB” horror, “The rental” from 2020 is great.
I agree it works though we assume he’s the villain here cause mentally we typecast him into thinking he’s the villain I mean I remember “it” coming a year before or the same year so unless you don’t watch movies we already that he was gonna be the villain again
Just remembered that Justin also lost his eyeballs in Jeepers Creepers 👀
I genuinely love the opening scenes and dialogue between Tess and Keith. I thought it was really well-written and both actors pulled it off so naturally, while still conveying the awkwardness of Keith trying not to come off as a creep and Tess' understandable cautiousness. But then I completely disengaged with Tess after she went into the murder dungeon after Keith. What are you going to do, Tess? You didn't grab a weapon, this man who is bigger than you is clearly unable to return because of someone or something, and what if he is actually a creep and was luring you down there? What exactly was the plan? Go find help! And then she did it AGAIN with Justin Long's character, after not even knowing the guy for more than 5 minutes. The only reason I was rooting for her in the end is because I didn't want Weinstein Jr to be the last one standing. I have decades of experience suspending my disbelief with horror movie decisions, but for some reason this one really annoyed me and I can't say why. Maybe because she was making such good decisions in the beginning so the decision to race into some unknown danger without any thought seemed out of character?
Someone said that Tess going back to help Keith or even Justin's character was because she keeps going back to the people who hurt her? (Something along those line that Keith pointed it out to her during their conversation about her relationship) ..I think that makes kinda sense
@@arushisingh4394 Hmmm, I guess I'm okay with that interpretation since it actually serves some sore of poetic purpose. It makes it a little less maddening if there is some reason. Fingers crossed Tess gets a boatload of therapy after this.
@@michelle6337 agree with the last sentence 😅 if I was Tess, I would thank my lucky stars forevet that I made out of that mess alive despite doing everything they tell you not to do in a horror movie
Hey, you can’t criticize the woman in a film that is clearly about evil men!
@@SnailHatan Keith's not evil, how does he fit into your reductive description?
I think the ending’s great. The pacing and the structure feels so original and it was so exciting seeing it in theaters from beginning to end.
I actually found the end quite sad with the woman saying bae bae and then she kissed her head 😞 She didn’t ask for what happened to her! xx 💋
I loved the reaction! Just wished the edit didn't skip some of the key moments.. :/
I thought the plot was a little too thin for my liking but the concept being so crazy, the directing causing a lot of tension, the acting being very solid, and the buildup to the plot twist being done well enough that it still stood out to me as one of the better movies that have come out.
The good thing about a thin plot is that it allows much more time for well done execution. A thin plot means the director can spend more time building up atmosphere and tension. Which this movie heavily relied on.
absolutely shocked, i love this movie, and the end is what solidified it for me, specifically the last moment between what is essentially two victims, i don't think ANYONE expected an emotional moment there or to feel sorry for what was the monster of the film. I LOVED that moment and it made the entire film for me! i don't think I've seen a moment like that in a horror flick, i even loved her walking away with the music... i didn't realize that had become a trope! but after you're examples i guess it is! lolol
The movie isn't meant to be about some supernatural boogeyman hiding in the shadows but a commentary on the Barbaric actions of people's and what really makes someone a Barbarian.
The fact that Bill Skarsgaard didn’t believe her enough to leave and call the cops is the most believable part of the movie to me. He’s like a lot of frustrating men who aren’t evil, but they will not believe a woman on her word alone when women are more vigilant than men.
The writer and director actually based his writing on a book called The Gift Of Fear which is written about the difference between how women and men generally react to dangerous situations.
Also, it’s strange that you guys cut out all of Justin Long’s storyline and the serial kidnapper.
@@PolitelyOffendProbably to avoid it getting flagged. It's a pretty dark yet rad connection to everything in this flick. Probably gonna sub to their patreon to find outt.
@@PolitelyOffendVery odd they cut that
Women don’t even know what men want 😅
Cinematography-rich horror has become something of a trademark of Detroit filmmaking. There was the same kind of thing visually with "It Follows," and also with the horror-comedy "Only Lovers Left Alive." Also superb soundtracks. The song in the Justin Long's introduction is a crazy earworm: "Riki Tiki Tavi" by Donovan.
Only Lovers Left Alive has my favorite soundtrack. Also a good film.
The cut to Justin Long’s introduction is amazing
That last scene is honestly sad af
It’s more than just a horror film. It’s about the expectations of women to constantly save and nurture everyone, while men don’t. The Barbarians are the men . I thought this was one of the most brilliant horror films in years, possibly decades.
Idk about decades. But definitely good
@@el34glo59 It's called an opinion. Just becuase you disagree doesn't invalidate mine.They can both coexist at the same time
Cliché !
@@dorian8875 I don't know what you mean by that
@@willynilly2545 Keith was a truly a nice man, the actor was shaddy, the homeless dude was trying to help,the one who kidnapped women was sick, men can be many different things, too bad they portray women to be only one thing in this movie, give women some credits just like men they can be warm and nurturing but they can also be cold hearted and deceiving!
"What is the address of the Airbnb in Barbarian?
Like people pointed out that barbarian is anagram of Airbnb and I did not realize that until way too late. Somebody pointed out that 476 Barbery, the address of the house that is like 476 is the year that Rome fell to the barbarians." -
The themes in this film run very deep. The clever structure of introducing a potential rapist (Bill Skarsgard), a possible rapist (Justin Long) and then a terrifyingly real serial rapist (Richard Brake), then blurring the distinctions between them is what keeps the audiences sympathies and perspectives shifting. The men are the Barbarians, including the police officers who don't believe/or help the lead character. The fact that it takes place in a neighborhood that has been totally gutted and pillaged as if by barbarians of yore is a nice touch, and underscores that societal stability is undergirded by FAMILIES; and this is reflected in the sympathy of the monster, who is protective and wants a family.
I think to, the strength of the monster (which viewers seem to take as very unbelievable or ridiculous) is being taken too literally. I think it's more metaphorical than that. I think it is meant to symbolize women's tenacity, strength and resilience, especially MOTHERHOOD. Our main character repeatedly goes back to save the other men; our monster is such a strong mother that she'll leap off a building to save her "child," and is so apoplectic about the violence, cowardice and horribleness of men that she can rip a head in two!
Ultimately, the main protagonist has more in common with the monster because they are both women; likewise in a line, Bill Skarsgard's "nice guy" routine is still just a long term game to get laid, making him closer to Justin Long. Justin Long, who went further and probably date raped somebody then in turn becomes thematically closer to the man in the basement.
It's just a really rich movie.
If there’s any film that you watch blindly without watching any trailers….it’s THIS one! 😂
I think you’re being too harsh. Sometimes films don’t need to re-invent the wheel, but just deliver it with a fresh perspective. I’d give it an 8/10
This movie had some cool cinematography.
It's always funny seeing people react to the neighborhood. That's just what parts of Detroit look like. Even going to a Detroit Pistons game I saw a abandoned burned down car on the side of the road, few crackheads skittering about, and quite a few abandoned buildings/houses. It's strange, because just a block or two away and you can find a nice area. The Detroit area is a very interesting place in the US.
I think the ending was fantastic. They didn’t even make the monster to be one dimensional as a character. Or that Justin Long was the true Barbarian, or the old man, and the monster was a victim as well. Not sure how they could have ended it better. Also the mystery of what is down there that is worse than the lady monster? There were so many tunnels and the cages, who knows?
I do think another suspicious thing about Keith was that he had no car with him. He would just be there, so you had to wonder if he was the owner and just luring Tess into trusting him. Because if it were a taxi or Uber, I would never drive to that neighborhood. By the way, that is how parts of some cities are in America (Detroit, Baltimore, etc), ravaged by blight. It’s very eerie, and I like how movies have taken advantage, like It Follows, Don’t Breathe, and Barbarian.
It‘s obvious the „what is worse than the monster“ was referring to the old man. Her father. Even she/the creature was afraid of him. He‘s what started it all.
That city is Detroit Michigan in America guys. It has fallen to ruins in the last several years. It was once a booming city called The Motor City where most of the cars were manufactured in America. I don't know all the details of what exactly happened but basically the jobs left anf then the people left and it fell into disrepair. It's pretty interesting, you should look it up sometime if you're interested.
"I've got an Airbnb next week. Is this going to put me off."
Like THE THING puts me off of wanting to visit Antarctica...
I also appreciate the real horror of the neighborhood. That happens. My grandparents lived in a neighborhood in Detroit that was quite nice. They moved when it started going downhill. Tracking it on Google Street View through the years we watched the area go to hell. Houses falling apart. It was an urban area but started to look like it was in a wilderness. Showing that change in the movie and then layering in a horror below that was the human version of long term rot and decay? Very effective. And I don't compare Long to the old man but to the mommy monster. You see her and she's a monster until you discover she herself is actually a victim. By contrast, Long seems a victim but in fact is himself a. Monster in disguise. I really liked it all the way through.
While I enjoyed this reaction, I'm quite sad that you cut out a lot of pivotal scenes. The movie is a "Post MeToo" film and you completely omitted Justin Long's backstory and the entire 1980 bit. As well as the way the male cops interact with Tess. You effectively cut out the whole subtext and social commentary of the film. It would have been interesting to see your opinions on Justin Long's reveals, for example.
that camera move when she falls asleep, the one that randomly pans up in the beginning of the movie, it made everyone in the theater freak out. lol! so good!
As a woman, you wouldn’t catch me even GETTING OUT OF THE CAR in the beginning. It’s pitch black, raining heavily? I’m in an unfamiliar neighborhood? I’m at an Airbnb but the owners aren’t answering my calls? BYE. I’m sleeping in my car if I have to. I fully believe anyone else should do the same, regardless of gender.
Truly one of the best horror films I've seen. It subverted expectations for me especially when the movie changes course abruptly and you see Justin Long in a convertible lol. Justin btw did a phenomenal job. The levity he provides was a great respite. But I also found the film campy in a good way. The brutal way the Mother killed the homeless man or how she saved Tess from the fall were so incredibly ridiculous and insane and fun and it made me and my best friend laugh in the theater tbh. Surprisingly I was also moved by the Mother at the end and the choice to play Be My Baby in the bacgkground was just chef's kiss. Btw I heard that the director wanted Justin Long's death scene to be way more gruesome but they had time/production constraints. Nonetheless, that ending was so damn satisfying.
The real barbarian in the film was Justin Long. I think that’s what they were trying to portray.
Top 3 horror film from last year IMO.
This, X and Pearl made 2022 one of my favourite years of horror cinema.
The horrified look on both of your faces at the end was priceless 🤣🤣
Zach Cregger is the Whitest Kid We Know now 😢. RIP Trevor Moore, he have been so proud of his bro
Saw this in theaters middle of the night when it came out. Was fantastic. One of my favorites from 2022.
Theater was dying during that tape measuring scene.
The film has a near perfect knowledge and manipulation of horror film grammar. The shots, expectations, staging, scenes and pace. And it still manages to feel original or fresh. Every question, every reaction we have, especially questioning their actions in certain situations is prompted on purpose by the film. If there's any criticism, it's what Tom said, in that, it almost gets in its own way and doesn't land on a clear story type. Either way, a blessing for genre fans.
Well I’m not sure if the film deserves “near perfect” praise. It’s certainly more incentive then it’s other contemporaries. 🤔
@@slimjimjimslim5923 Well generally, if we look at the genre and intent of the film, the success/perfection is based on - did it achieve what it set out to do.
@@AndyBestHP yeah but then you could say other films also achieved what they set out to do as long as they have mediocre expectations 🤔
@@slimjimjimslim5923 I know you're trying to sound smart dude but give it up.
@@omegashinra7672 am I? Then you must know me better than myself 😏
The first half of this movie is incredible. I just never knew what was going to happen, constantly changing my mind...
Interesting how the movie tries to portray Keith as the creepy weirdo, but Tess is the one going through his things.
Absolutely agree the ending lets the film down. The water tower part especially, due to its implausibility of surviving the fall.
Did I miss something or did you completely edit out the back story??
BTW the femle lead, aka main character, is Georgina Campbell. She deserves a mention
Justin Long somehow gets himself into a worse situation in the movie Tusk (2014)
Great reaction! Your distrust of Keith in the beginning...trying to suss out if he's just awkward or creepy, actually a nice guy. Or murderer?...Welcome to womanhood lol. That's us with every guy, in public or not, day or night. Is he sweet and kinda awkward or is he going to kill me while I sleep? I loved that about this movie, kept us guessing the whole time then BAM. It kind of flipped the usual tropes. As for the neighborhood, Detroit Michigan USA which has alot of neighborhoods like that and is just slowly being renovated over many years. I think the neighborhood in Don't Breathe was like this too. And another thing is that yes they had to show the breastfeeding scene bc it was to show the sexual assaulter being assaulted, just in a different way. He was being made to do something he didn't want to happen. We were supposed to be horrified
Barbarian comes from both the name for a resident of the area Barbary and derived from a Greek word meaning babbler, as in “ba ba ba” like the antagonist keeps saying. Plus of course you could describe her as one.
Great movie but i felt the same way about the character barbarian. Making her this monster kind of flattened the mood the whole movie was creating at first
I missed the scenes with the old man in the basement. But this movie is such a old school exploitation movie, I love it
Yes where was it? And the backstory? Was it cut off to avoid copyright?
This is the first time a film reminded me of a game and I preferred the game's story (Twelve Minutes). Totally agree with your assessment Tom, the first half when it was still a thriller was so promising. Putting a creature in it was a first draft idea, a bit lazy.
Hey Cinema Rules or CR lol. Love the reaction and keep up the awesome work. I saw this movie in theaters and it scared the heck out of me from the suspense. You should check out Smile when u can.
I like the two of you have a friend who goes to the movies with me to specifically watch horror cuz we both love it and neither his wife or my husband like horror. We watched right after Pearl (the sequel to X) and this just went off and we like it a lot, probably better than Pearl but Pearl was not this kind of film but it just was so good. That transition after the Skarsgaard getting ended was something else.
The fact it was directed by Gallon of PCP guy makes it even better.
Guys been watching your reactions & subscribed since you began & just want to say your channel is awesome.
Shaun & Tom your both great reactors & your love & passion for movies shines in every reaction you do.
Great horror film brilliant reactions.
FINALLY!!! So glad you guys got around to react to this.
Funny seeing two Brits try to think how lore-wise why the neighbourhood is destroy but its just Detroit
Your faces during this video was EVERYTHING!!
“What on earth is this place?”
That’s just Detroit bro lol
When this movie came out in theaters, it got a lot of word of mouth, and everyone said, "don't watch the trailer, or read anything about it. It's awesome just see it." Also, everyone the girl didn't trust was actually trustworthy, and Justin long she did trust, and he was awful. The scene where they show they neighborhood in the 70s is crazy too.
That area is just outside of Detroit Michigan. I think they just filmed suburban Detroit.
I really enjoyed this movie. It had a lot of familiar elements to be sure, but the direction and performances really knocked it up a notch or two for me. It's definitely paying homage to movies like The Hills Have Eyes and such, but the really horrifying thing is that the isolation that leads to the situation (and the resultant horror) takes place entirely in an urban area. It shows how isolated we have all become, even in the biggest and most populated cities in the world. Chilling to think about, and that really hit home. Loved your reactions to it, guys. They probably mirrored my own when I saw it!
Your faces when the end credits started to roll. Oh man..😂😂
People hyped this movie up too much before I watched it so my expectations were a bit too high but I have absolutely LOVED the reaction videos to this film 😜
Tom and Sean, believe it or not that's real. I'm in the city of Detroit where this was filmed and there are abandoned burnt down houses everywhere that were never torn down. Its everywhere guys but so glad you enjoyed the movie.
You can rate t whatever you want. Opinions vary. I fucking loved it. One of my favorite horror films of the past decade. from casting pennywise to throw everyone off, the basement reveal, Justin Long playing a great douchbag-this movie was on fire.
Long is perfect for a dbag. But yeah I loved it too
The father and Justin along were the Barbarbians. Not just because they did awful things but they were the homeowners of the house on BARBARY St. So quite literal as well.
They used Skarsgard's previous casting to trick the audience to cast a doubt on him. Also, apparently the director placed all of the 'red flags' behaviors on his character early in the scene to make the audiences feel unsettled.
Also, this film highlights the fact that we, just like the protagonist, often ignore our internal alarm bell despite our conviction that we are careful people. We always excuse it under "Ah, they seem harmless and charming to boot", "I'm just imagining things", "It will be fine, I'm rattled for nothing". When in reality, we should definitely NOPE out the minute our internal alarm bell blaring, warning us that something about someone or a place is off.
The first time I watched “Barbarian” I was alone in a darkened hotel room in the middle of nowhere Michigan…not far from Detroit…
This was SUPER disturbing for me in that moment…
And I’ve watched it multiple times ever since❤
I was more intrigued by the serial killer aspect, than the crazy deformed lady... shoulda done more with that. also still dunno how a malnourished woman whose never seen sunlight gained super human strength.... 3rd act was weak imo. Perfectly cast, and they shoulda done more with Pennywise
This is one of them movies that are better on the second watch. All the shocking changes throw your brain off too much on the first viewing. Watching it again, there's actually a lot to catch. I thought it was trash the first time, but I love it now.
I think Justin Long is the barbarian. But also, they do live on Barbary Lane, so the people at the house are also Barbarians...
Interesting choice to edit out the entire plot hahah
I thought you were going to say what bothered you might be what 'nagged' at me - if 'she' was just a 'human offspring', no matter how vile the parentage, there was no justification for the supernormal strength/powers.
Shaun: "Uh oh."
LOL, best reaction of 2023!
This movie was so sad. She was stronger than me, cause not gonna lie I couldn’t bring myself to shoot at that point. I pitied her so much I would’ve tried to save her.
I still can’t decide if I like this movie or not because it’s really two different movies.
I couldn't help but laugh at you guys reacting to the shot of a Detroit neighborhood 🤣
This feels like a slight remake of "Death Line" AKA "Raw Meat" 1972. Similar themes and much more engaging actors in this 70s version.
OK guys...I must say that I usually really like your reactions, but I'm really disappointed this time. This movie was so so good as audiences have attested too. It really is just about a perfect horror movie in every way. I don't think I've ever seen you two try so hard to find holes to criticize it for. And asking "has it been done before?" is just such a let down. If you try you can pretty much compare every new movie to a movie from the past and say it's been done before...but so what? Even if a story is similar to a past one...that doesn't mean it's not still a great movie on it's own merit. I don't think I've been to a movie in the theater that had as big of a terrified reaction from the entire audience as when I saw this. And I think you need to watch your own reactions back because this movie did exactly what it set out to do to the both of you VERY effectively. I'm sorry but at the end there it just seemed like you were both trying to convince yourselves that you were smarter than the movie than appreciating this movie for it's brilliance. Sometimes you should just enjoy the film guys.
My favorite reaction this year!! Great one, guys!!
Well done, glad to see the two of you back at it doing a freakish film.
This movie is unabashedly a genre film but it is an extremely well crafted genre film and a hell of a lotta fun. This is a fun horror movie and we don’t get a lot of em in my opinion so I enjoyed it.
As a small piece of insight, Cregger talked about the first third with Bill Skarsgard being a Takashi Miike film (specifically Audition) where the whole thing was about ambiguous sexual threat between men and women. He based all of his questionable interactions with her (saying her name is pretty, making her tea, acting cagey, offering for her to stay, stressing what a nice guy he was) on a book called 'The Gift of Fear' that's about all of the red flags men put off to women without realizing it. Out of context it's benign, but in context totally inappropriate, which is great because it totally has you questioning his intentions every step of the way. The basement stuff is, according to Cregger, a Sam Raimi tribute. The whole directing style changes completely and it turns into a gonzo horror film, which I love.
I see the ending being completely justified for a few reasons. The Mother character being the most absurd, horrifying product of abuse imaginable works for me because when you're catastrophizing these uncertain situations you end up thinking about crazy things like torture basements, assault, etc. Tess finds herself living the worst case scenario possible. The Mother being revealed to be sympathetic is one of those great horror moments where it makes the audience check their own assumptions a little. The Barbarians in the film are most definitely Richard Brake's character and Justin Long. Their meeting in the basement is the meeting of two awful, kindred spirits. Long establishes early that he definitely assaulted his costar, and finds ways to self-justify, exactly in the same way he tells himself he'll be better before pushing Tess off the water tower. Tess alternately, is revealed to be an altruist. She puts others before herself, and in the end learns the hardest of lessons that she can't survive living like that.
I think all of it is super character forward and makes sense especially on rewatch. The Mother is meant to be a pretty uncomfortable entity, and seeing it again you pick up on so many minor details that reconfirm why each character does what they do, even if it isn't what I myself would- which is great! Can't appreciate this thing enough for making its first mission to be entertaining and surprising as hell while also addressing some very queasy upsetting themes. It has restraint in all the right places, is beautifully directed, and that structure is pretty extraordinary for a modern horror imo. I'd give it a solid 9/10 which I don't do that often.
2022 was a damn good year for horror films.
10:03 i totally missed the 'death from below' hint when i watched this haha. Nice little foreshadowing
I love how everyone is suspicious of Keith (me included) when watching for the first time 😄
Loved this film so much, so glad this was selected. Not sure if it has been mentioned, but the old barbaric guy plays the Night King in Game of Thrones and is well known for his costume/horror work.
I generally agree, the first and second act are brilliant, with the third a slightly tepid finish, but all in all a solid horror. Excited to see more work from the write/director. I do get “parasite” vibes with the sudden mood shift halfway through the film, which I reckon we’ll see more filmmakers using over the coming years. Great work as always fellas!
Brilliant reaction video boys (hell, even my Ma has gotten into watching you and enjoying your videos too!) 😃
Couple of quick points I wanted to make that I felt were important here:
When I first saw this upon release, my reaction post-viewing was pretty much the same as yours - this feeling of not quite being sure how I felt about it as a cohesive whole, but really enjoying it all the same. The thing is, give it a few months or so and come back to it. I guarantee you it’s even better upon a second watch, as you have some understanding of its structure and you get to see it for how subversive it actually is and flipping conventions on their head in many ways.
Tbh, I’m no Horror fan - my brother is a huge gore-hound though - but this is a perfectly-pitched Horror movie for me. For some reason it reminds me of “Cabin in the Woods” - but that movie left me wanting with its ending. (I wished they had just pushed it a little more into the absolutely unimaginable transpiring as I felt the shock wasn’t nearly pronounced enough). Anyway, I’m rambling - trust me: watch it again in several months time and I guarantee you’ll appreciate it a whole lot more second time around, especially if you’re able to watch it with others who’ve not seen it and don’t know what to expect.
Finally, I found it interesting that nobody ever seems to mention how Keith’s immediate reaction is that he doesn’t believe Tess - which is a whole other layer going on there too!
I’d love to know if you see this comment guys, as I really do reckon you’ll love it even more 2nd time around. So if you do get to read this, throw it a comment or an emoji - hell, throw it a comment! (Just don’t throw the “babbehhh” out with the bathwater) 😬
The main positive in this movie is its extreme unpredictability. I think it's a pretty decent horror movie mainly because of that. Oh, and because Bill Skarsgard, who is always AMAZING. But I think 7.5 is a good rating... perhaps it deserved an 8 from you just because you guys were both scared and SO horrified in several moments, so horrors deserve bog props for that I think!
I adore this movie, 10/10. Love the commentary about the characters portrayed in this, just excellent. Then turning it into a monster flick amidst the entirely altruistic final girl and the self-centered-manipulative actor was just the icing of the cake for me.
It reminded me a ton of the change of pace in Jeepers Creepers where the second half isn't anything like the first.
Keep the reactions coming boiiiis 🍻
I love everything up to the 3rd act. Then it sorta falls short. Overall, super enjoyable and inventive. thanks for the reaction!
I feel like it should’ve ended like Perfect Blue
Why did you cut out the entire subplot of the father?