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None of this shit matters if you've never DONE the raid, since you have to have gotten the weapon to begin with before it drops in the chests.... Last Wish was the only exception.
It's nice that it's like that in Garden too but also bit me in the butt. On my hunter I never ran it so i thought I'd on be getting guaranteed guns from the chest and it started dropping armor and guns I didn't have/want!
The checkpoint bot also has a checkpoint for the first chest. So if you're lazy like me you can just queue up for one chest and then queue up again for the second.
A few things : - It's possibly to do it from the very beginning. Yes you'll have to kill a few enemies but nothing too complicated. If doing this method, I recommend using Lumina as you can use the projectile as slow grapple. Much easier to get than a rocket. You'll just do the whole thing in reverse order. - To climb up the wall from second encounter to top of the world, multiple options are possible. You can use Salvation's grip and stasis nades to go on the wall near the ledge (I personally did and personally DON'T recommend it, it's very tedious but it was before Skating existed and stand wasn't a thing.), rocket fly/lumina fly (A straight up grapple is far easier than an horizontal one that almost require a macro, that exist by the way), or for the most stylish, Wellskate into icarus dash with heat rises (Warlock only of course). - Garden is (as far as I know) the only raid you can reach the end solo while skipping everything. A fun time when you're bored and want to do random stuff.
I’m really glad fallout posted this updated video. I normally would load in the instance the normal way & try to salvation grip to that first chest but it just hasn’t been working for me lately at all. I never got the grapple rocket down because I wasted so much heavy when I did get in weeks ago that I could only try the rocket grapple once or twice at best. So make sure you put on all reserves on chest. Go to Savathun world to the enclave & top off heavy at 15 shots. Dump all stats into grenade so when u mess up, u can get it back quicker. Put 3 bomber mods on class item so when u miss the grapple , u can pop ur class item & trigger that grenade even quicker. I can’t eager edge skate or nothing so I wondered if it was a skill issue or would ever work for me. On my 3rd attempt I got it with Gally & was so excited when I got to the top, I panicked & dropped right back down on the wrong side. lol but at that point, I knew it was real & now successfully do it every other shot or so. Be patient & don’t quit. 😊
If you have two people you can also backtrack further into the flower wall at the end of encounter 1 (needs a rocket grapple too) and then join on each other from there to get the 2nd chest quicker on all 3 characters You know ya should be good if the area says Embrace instead of Undergrowth
Since my clan died, I’ve been scared of the lfg in game but surprisingly people know what to do, I’ve done at least 5 raids without mics and almost 0 coordination Either they were good at the game or I was just lucky, now I need one more red shotgun to craft it Maybe then I’ll do salvation edge for the first time
First chest is easily obtained by all 3 classes if you load in at the start. Second chest is a bit more complicated and may be difficult for classes other than hunter. Checkpoint bot works best for the second chest.
I’ve never done this raid before. I hope when it comes back as the weekly raid we get some guides on how to farm certain encounters for the red border weapons
you can get to both chests from the beggining of the raid solo without any CP, jut need to clear the portal and do one DSM (Default Spawn Manipulation) sounds complicated but in this case is just die in one specific part of the map, very easy to do
2:20 meh I still prefer the old way since you can get through the invisible wall using the strand warlock super and then with strand warlock you can used the grapple to get up the big ledge to get to the second hidden chest
I had a hard time with the rocket grapple with Gally, but then I switched to a rocket with lower velocity ("Sleepless", with a 30 velocity) and got it first try
The deal I make with my raid team is that I will do this raid with the exception of the last encounter. It's not too difficult or anything I just hate it
I know exactly what you mean. The first three encounters are braindead easy nowadays. The last encounter just takes longer and I don't have the patience for it.
Because I’m truly lazy, only the Hunter can get both chests without a checkpoint, so I’m missing out on two extra chests per week. Might give this backwards path a try, thanks!
Just got a threat detrctor/closing time prophet on try number 5 out of 6 thanks to you bro! Unfortunately barrel and mag mods not the greatest but i cant complain
Never tried a bot cp on console, I can get that 2nd chest super fast/easy from a previous vid, but looks like cakewalk for the 1st chest if bot works. Weapons aside, Hunter cloak is cool too.
@FalloutPlays This video is missing a very important thing... Mentioning that guardians can hang out in the instance for others in their fireteam to get the chest on different characters. SOO many people are requeueing for the same chest using different characters. The bots are soo busy 😭
I'm going to hazard a guess that this only works if you have the weapons unlocked already by acquiring them once. Which mean's I'm still outta luck for the majority of these. Kinda bummed.
What's the advice for if you've messed up your grapple-rocket pull, and have no rocket ammo left? Special is appearing once empty, but Heavy doesn't seem to be. Just need to quite and reload the checkpoint and backtrack again?
@@bhanson2200 Doesn't work unfortunately. The projectile being slower means you cant get past the wall before the death barrier timer reaches zero. I recommend lumina grappling w/boots of the assembler to spawn noble rounds
For people that play with multiple characters and have a class that hasnt completed GoS yet Id recommend doing your secret chest runs on those. This way youll only get weapon drops
That's not true I tested Never done the raid with my warlock and chest dropped armors and surprisingly it also drop auto rifle where I never unlocked it before was very unlucky with auto rifle iam happy
@@bruiseleeroy7010 yeah I know but secret chests was bugged after the fix now they can drop weapons not only me my friend get the sniper and he only beat final boss once during divinity run And he got red border sniper go figure it's Bungie think
@@bruiseleeroy7010 True for most raids and dungeons, not true for Last Wish. Someone else in the comments said that GoS is now like LW. Previously secret chests in GoS only dropped armor, adding weapons may have broken the 'you need to have unlocked it' bit.
It still feels faster/consistent to just reset checkpoint and do the skip from the first encounter for the first chest. I'll give it a try this way though on reset just to see
Soon as I hit 'turn back' with the rocket grapple, my grapple disconnects and I drop back down. Edit: I was not looking up far enough. Look up until the view literally stops and you cannot look up any farther. This prevents any further upwards recoil from the rocket shot and an immediate grapple should connect.
Somehow the bot is not inviting me. Got into the queue 4 times, waited like 15 min each and never got the invitation. I checked my privacy settings and its all set to public... anyone knows what might be happening? Edit: Fixed it! Thanks
Only some do, VoG onward give spoils, and for some reason DSC used to after it came out but it doesn't anymore. If you can find a checkpoint for post templar, you can nab 20 spoils per character
@@theremnants6807it isn’t Previous it use to be armours only, likely cos last wish chest could be farmed for anything I think it’s the system of weapons you’ve at least discovered appearing in the chest
@@KillerMeme it is. I did the farm and got the titan helmet and shotgun. Showed up as recent discoveries in my collections meaning undiscovered loot does drop.
PLEASE do not skim over the bow. It’s the first kinetic bow in the game with Kinetic Tremors and it procs in TWO shots if enhanced. Reckless Oracle is also a fun void auto rifle choice if Ros Arago’s been boring you.
Well you're so smart it's not that easy to get those chest So you're not as smart as you think you are Because if you got no one that has that checkpoint you can't get the checkpoint And can't get those chest It feels like I'm talking to Daffy duck Elmer Fudd That's all folks
Is this really easier though? You're just going backwards. It feels like the same amount of effort. This video mostly just feels like an ad read and to promote someone. >.>
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None of this shit matters if you've never DONE the raid, since you have to have gotten the weapon to begin with before it drops in the chests.... Last Wish was the only exception.
Also like Last Wish you are not limited to weapons you had unlocked previously
Thank you! That was my question and no one was addressing it.
@ yes I noticed when I got the bow which I was shocked since I had only gotten the Fusion rifle ever
It's nice that it's like that in Garden too but also bit me in the butt. On my hunter I never ran it so i thought I'd on be getting guaranteed guns from the chest and it started dropping armor and guns I didn't have/want!
So if you've never done the raid can doing these two chests give you any of the weapons or are there certain ones tied to each chest?
@@Mr_Ruhl apparently any 🤘🏾
The checkpoint bot also has a checkpoint for the first chest. So if you're lazy like me you can just queue up for one chest and then queue up again for the second.
Not always available at the start of the week so still very helpful.
What’s the checkpoint bot? Is that a discord group?
4:27 - Heed the Gally recommendation: I tried over and over with a rocket with 68 velo, and got it first try when I finally switched to Gally :)
What’s a “friends list”?
A few things :
- It's possibly to do it from the very beginning. Yes you'll have to kill a few enemies but nothing too complicated. If doing this method, I recommend using Lumina as you can use the projectile as slow grapple. Much easier to get than a rocket. You'll just do the whole thing in reverse order.
- To climb up the wall from second encounter to top of the world, multiple options are possible. You can use Salvation's grip and stasis nades to go on the wall near the ledge (I personally did and personally DON'T recommend it, it's very tedious but it was before Skating existed and stand wasn't a thing.), rocket fly/lumina fly (A straight up grapple is far easier than an horizontal one that almost require a macro, that exist by the way), or for the most stylish, Wellskate into icarus dash with heat rises (Warlock only of course).
- Garden is (as far as I know) the only raid you can reach the end solo while skipping everything. A fun time when you're bored and want to do random stuff.
I’m really glad fallout posted this updated video. I normally would load in the instance the normal way & try to salvation grip to that first chest but it just hasn’t been working for me lately at all. I never got the grapple rocket down because I wasted so much heavy when I did get in weeks ago that I could only try the rocket grapple once or twice at best.
So make sure you put on all reserves on chest. Go to Savathun world to the enclave & top off heavy at 15 shots.
Dump all stats into grenade so when u mess up, u can get it back quicker. Put 3 bomber mods on class item so when u miss the grapple , u can pop ur class item & trigger that grenade even quicker.
I can’t eager edge skate or nothing so I wondered if it was a skill issue or would ever work for me.
On my 3rd attempt I got it with Gally & was so excited when I got to the top, I panicked & dropped right back down on the wrong side. lol but at that point, I knew it was real & now successfully do it every other shot or so. Be patient & don’t quit. 😊
i was told liking the video, watching the video from beginning to end and leaving a comment helps the creator
If you have two people you can also backtrack further into the flower wall at the end of encounter 1 (needs a rocket grapple too) and then join on each other from there to get the 2nd chest quicker on all 3 characters
You know ya should be good if the area says Embrace instead of Undergrowth
Hmm, like the old method, but backwards
For real, with mountaintop you can get up the second wall as Titan first try
I just checked it, old way still not patched surprisingly. Much faster with strand now too.
The old method is much easier, the only thing u need is Salvation's Grip.
any heavy grenade launcher works
Or navigator
I did it with a rocket launcher
Since my clan died, I’ve been scared of the lfg in game but surprisingly people know what to do, I’ve done at least 5 raids without mics and almost 0 coordination
Either they were good at the game or I was just lucky, now I need one more red shotgun to craft it
Maybe then I’ll do salvation edge for the first time
First chest is easily obtained by all 3 classes if you load in at the start. Second chest is a bit more complicated and may be difficult for classes other than hunter. Checkpoint bot works best for the second chest.
I’ve never done this raid before. I hope when it comes back as the weekly raid we get some guides on how to farm certain encounters for the red border weapons
Hey, nice guide. I really like going from the start as welllock, especially the second chest is a bit harder to reach but so fun to do with a skate
Thanks for the tips! I've mastered this now so much appreciated
you can get to both chests from the beggining of the raid solo without any CP, jut need to clear the portal and do one DSM (Default Spawn Manipulation) sounds complicated but in this case is just die in one specific part of the map, very easy to do
Great music choice, very relaxing
the bow with k. tremors once enhanced cam two tap in PVP
2:20 meh I still prefer the old way since you can get through the invisible wall using the strand warlock super and then with strand warlock you can used the grapple to get up the big ledge to get to the second hidden chest
I had a hard time with the rocket grapple with Gally, but then I switched to a rocket with lower velocity ("Sleepless", with a 30 velocity) and got it first try
The deal I make with my raid team is that I will do this raid with the exception of the last encounter.
It's not too difficult or anything I just hate it
I know exactly what you mean. The first three encounters are braindead easy nowadays. The last encounter just takes longer and I don't have the patience for it.
0:20 No, you’re handsome 😊
Because I’m truly lazy, only the Hunter can get both chests without a checkpoint, so I’m missing out on two extra chests per week. Might give this backwards path a try, thanks!
Does it only drop weapons you've had drop since the red boarders came out?
Just got a threat detrctor/closing time prophet on try number 5 out of 6 thanks to you bro! Unfortunately barrel and mag mods not the greatest but i cant complain
Thanks for the tip. Much appreciated. Is this like the Last Wish loot where it's once a week to get?
It’s easy enough to grapple over the barrier wall if you do this from the start of the raid. No need for a boss checkpoint.
FYI - using Winterbite grappling is much more consistent/easy (albeit not as much height).
Does it get you high enough to get over the blue wall?
Does it still work if you had not unlock the weapons in collection yet ?
Yes :)
No :(
Yes it works
@@toqez130no, you dont need to have previously unlocked these guns to do this
I feel like we need a series of "ChilloutPlays" videos which are just random clips from Fallout's streams to relaxing music.
chill beats to fallout to
That's way easier than other videos I've seen
I think you should do more gambit videos, Gambit is an untapped market so they'll surely be peak (pls)
Never tried a bot cp on console, I can get that 2nd chest super fast/easy from a previous vid, but looks like cakewalk for the 1st chest if bot works. Weapons aside, Hunter cloak is cool too.
@FalloutPlays This video is missing a very important thing...
Mentioning that guardians can hang out in the instance for others in their fireteam to get the chest on different characters.
SOO many people are requeueing for the same chest using different characters. The bots are soo busy 😭
Damn, no mention of the only bow in the game that can get kinetic tremors (which procs in 2 arrows fyi) thats craaazy...
Thanks much! Very helpful as always good sir
I have a question is it harder to get deepsight weapons in gos or just rng? Cause I have done more than 20 runs and barely got 2 crafted weapons
Do you have to have a clear on the raid first?
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I'm going to hazard a guess that this only works if you have the weapons unlocked already by acquiring them once. Which mean's I'm still outta luck for the majority of these. Kinda bummed.
Do you have to have completed the raid already to get these chests or is it ok that I have never done a raid?
Loot will drop from chests no matter the amount of completions you've done. 0 or 1k doesn't matter
What's the advice for if you've messed up your grapple-rocket pull, and have no rocket ammo left? Special is appearing once empty, but Heavy doesn't seem to be. Just need to quite and reload the checkpoint and backtrack again?
Reload and start over lol
Idk cry ig
Try the Big Friggen' Glaive. It's projectile is slower and easier to grapple.
@@bhanson2200 Doesn't work unfortunately. The projectile being slower means you cant get past the wall before the death barrier timer reaches zero. I recommend lumina grappling w/boots of the assembler to spawn noble rounds
@@beaufy2428I tried crying. Didn't work
For people that play with multiple characters and have a class that hasnt completed GoS yet Id recommend doing your secret chest runs on those. This way youll only get weapon drops
That's not true I tested
Never done the raid with my warlock and chest dropped armors and surprisingly it also drop auto rifle where I never unlocked it before was very unlucky with auto rifle iam happy
@cangooz2240 Hmm that cant be right, secret chests dont drop anything you havent collected from an encounter
@@bruiseleeroy7010old raids do
@@bruiseleeroy7010 yeah I know but secret chests was bugged after the fix now they can drop weapons not only me my friend get the sniper and he only beat final boss once during divinity run
And he got red border sniper go figure it's Bungie think
@@bruiseleeroy7010 True for most raids and dungeons, not true for Last Wish.
Someone else in the comments said that GoS is now like LW. Previously secret chests in GoS only dropped armor, adding weapons may have broken the 'you need to have unlocked it' bit.
It still feels faster/consistent to just reset checkpoint and do the skip from the first encounter for the first chest. I'll give it a try this way though on reset just to see
1/4 skip on hunter or warlock is a LOT faster than this lol, this is just a really dumbed down reversed version for people who cant skate at all
For some Bungie reason, Omni Eye can't equip Enhanced PI.
This way is WAY easier. Thank you so much Mr. Fallout. This is gonna to save a lot of time or frustration!
No it isnt stop lying 💀
@ for me it is. And that’s what I replied with. And that’s all I care about.
Also you have to have completed it first to get red borders that three different content creators with click bait headlines
This is false. I've never completed a single encounter of Garden and have 1 or 2 pattern progress for each weapon already. Works just like Last Wish!
It always removes my grapple from the rocket almost immediately
wow i didnt realise the second one was so easy to get
this is great ty fallout
Does this work for consoles?
The rocket grapple is so frustrating.
Soon as I hit 'turn back' with the rocket grapple, my grapple disconnects and I drop back down.
Edit: I was not looking up far enough. Look up until the view literally stops and you cannot look up any farther. This prevents any further upwards recoil from the rocket shot and an immediate grapple should connect.
i'm having same problem. fixes?
@@klassek edited my initial comment 👍
Somehow the bot is not inviting me. Got into the queue 4 times, waited like 15 min each and never got the invitation. I checked my privacy settings and its all set to public... anyone knows what might be happening?
Edit: Fixed it!
Thanks
old method is really easy if you just grapple to a winterbite shot for the wall that's annoying to climb, why waste the time grabbing a checkpoint
Does the boss cheese on the 2nd encounter still work?
It's the third encounter you're thinking about, and yes it still works.
The fusion is beyond broken in PVP
**sighs**
**hurls recently crafted Techeun Force into the Vault**
is this patched? my grapple grenade wont stay attached to gjally rocket?
Do u need a raid completion to get loot form these chests
if its like last wish no but probably
No need for raid completion
You don’t need a completion, but only weapons and armor you have already unlocked can drop!
You do not, I've been able to get both armour and weapons from these chests even though I'd never even set foot in GoS before.
@@blazegamez6544nope all weapon and armor can drop
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Thank you 🥺
Do chests not give spoils anymore? I use to farm the Vow start chest on each character to get 45 spoils every week for free
I believe it's certain raids and they just change the raids that give spoils every year
Only some do, VoG onward give spoils, and for some reason DSC used to after it came out but it doesn't anymore.
If you can find a checkpoint for post templar, you can nab 20 spoils per character
@@BistoNationDSC came before VoG
Im pretty sure that nothing new tho? Ive been farming the chests for weapons for weeks now
FALLOUT THANK YOU FOR THE RAID GUIDS YOUR THE BEST, FIRST!!
I don't know.. opening up twitch and waiting for a bot to invite me takes more effort than the original route..
Is this possible on console ? Ty
Yes
Since we are using cp bots, why not just use the 2 chest cps to make it easier? No need to do rocket grapple
Wow in 7 days
Mfw when garden skip is easier and faster
Is this one of those videos where you bait me with an extreeeeeemely liberal use of the word "solo"?
Tried 3 separate times with that bot queue thing and it just didn't work, never got the invite once (yes all my stuff is set to public)
You have to have crossave enabled for the bots to invite you
also invite codes are case sensitive so check that
@@ForeverParm-tf6gq I do
@@mnaiskilla2137 it was correct
What did you type into queue?
Hopefully this doesnt need a raid completion.
I believe it's like last wish. Even loot you've never picked up you'll get from them
@@theremnants6807it isn’t
Previous it use to be armours only, likely cos last wish chest could be farmed for anything
I think it’s the system of weapons you’ve at least discovered appearing in the chest
@@KillerMeme it is. I did the farm and got the titan helmet and shotgun. Showed up as recent discoveries in my collections meaning undiscovered loot does drop.
@theremnants6807 hell yeah. Gonna be busy trying to get them, since I don't raid. (Personal choice, I'm just bad at PvE content, lol.)
PLEASE do not skim over the bow.
It’s the first kinetic bow in the game with Kinetic Tremors and it procs in TWO shots if enhanced. Reckless Oracle is also a fun void auto rifle choice if Ros Arago’s been boring you.
Fusion and shotgun are also really good for pvp with the right perk combinations. Honestly the only weapon that's just ok here is the sniper
no spoils 😢
Or just do the raid
7:25 vid and you don't even give all the info
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Well you're so smart it's not that easy to get those chest So you're not as smart as you think you are Because if you got no one that has that checkpoint you can't get the checkpoint And can't get those chest It feels like I'm talking to Daffy duck Elmer Fudd That's all folks
Its like you idn't even watch the vid. You use the bot to get the checkpoint.
That's where I come in, bud
Is this really easier though? You're just going backwards. It feels like the same amount of effort. This video mostly just feels like an ad read and to promote someone. >.>
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My brother in the light ain't nobody got time for this but I'm going to still watch the video
Me getting the final boss from the start of the raid solo because I know how to break this raid open like an egg and then scramble it 😊
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FUCKING STOP
Or just do the raid which is actually easier than this as long as you got some time
Getting a checkpoint from someone else (even a bot) is not solo.
Bruh the raid is not hard just master the raid and get 20 min clears that’s so easy even without skating
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