The days of European Christendom could return but the TVs and ads are run by rabid anti-Christians. I wonder how quickly things would return to Christian order without the hypnotism of secular lusts and secular entertainment monopolized and force fed to the masses from childhood. Can’t go back, they tell us, or your an N-word. A bunch of bull.
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei They were still many princes technically, as in a land ruled by a prince and not a Kingdom But true most fairy tales does involves kings, well tbf theres still France right next to it with over dozens of princes due to previous kings not keeping it in their pants for example, but 1 king
@@boredweeb867 Bro we know. It's just a hypothetical. It's like if we said "wow what if X" and you said "well technically alternative history is impossible due to the deterministic nature of matter and energy states in the universe 🤓", which is technically correct, but we are just imagining things for entertainment
Title: "Duke of the Forrest of Wesselthaw, Prince of the eastern wood, Guardian of the glade, the barron of greener Wesselthaw, and high lord of the greater fertile lands od wesselthaw!" What it actually means: Guy who owns that half acre of trees over there in some middle of nowhere town called Wesselthaw.
At first I was like 'why are the names so small and scattered? Is this some compilation before they start showing them?' Then I noticed what I thought were debris on my computer screen. OH. Woah.
Those were knights of the Teutonic order, a crusader holy order that conquered east Prussia from the pagans but after the leader converted to Protestantism and became a vassal of Poland the knights lost that land
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Those territories of the imperial knights were not about the Teutonic Order. Imperial knights were simply knights who served directly under the emperor with no other lords between them, just as imperial cities had no lord above them but the emperor. .
Ideally, every knight had land. That's how they sustained themselves, at least that was the idea during medieval times, this map is later obviously. But most knights had lords between them and the emperor and their land would be part of some of the other territories we see in the video.
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Well, the German word for knight Ritter mostly refers to a group of low nobility and their titles and privileges only truly lost their meaning with the end of the HRE in 1806. They had long lost their military use, but they were still nobles with control over land, although the high nobility tried it's best to get rid of them and rule directly over their stuff in a sort of small scale absolutism.
I just noticed something... Within the final map, you can DEFINITELY make out Germany's modern-day borders, especially the eastern border. The border between Saxony and bohemia Bavaria and Austria And if you draw a line from the 3-way intersection of Saxony bohemia and Brandenburg up to the southeastern tip of pomerania, you'll see it.
They were originally centralised, but derove more and more into decentralisation until napoleon destroyed the HRE in 1805, after that just 30 were left
Blame the austrians. Ever since the habsburgs took control from the 15th century things went downhill, before that it was a great power when ruled by the saxon and luxembourish dynasty
Great video! Good decision to concentrate on the main territories, and leave out the smallest and most fragmented ones. The video has just the right amount of detail to illustrates what a mess the HRE was, without losing your mind watching (or creating) it.
@@NicolasTheKingphoenix10 And yes, they're the "main" territories, in the sense that some of them were the result of a merger of smaller previous territories, or the progenitors of multiple states that were split off at some date. There's no way to make this an enjoyable video if you acknowledge that there were almost no two years between 800 and 1800 with the same map. The video is a snapshot of what the HRE looked like in 1648. For example, there was a county of Battenberg, which was created in the 13th century when it split from the county of Wittgenstein. In 1464, it merged with Hesse, together with the neighboring county of Hatzfeld, while the county of Wittgenstein later became Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg. Hesse was split in several parts in the 16th century, most of which merged again into two main states by 1648 (Hesse-Kassel and Hesse-Darmstadt).
Excellent!! Great Job! I remember when I was college going on a quest to find all 600 some states of the Holy Roman Empire. Thank you for fulling my unfinished quest.
As always, the French ruining everything. I do not know you my German friend, but I assure you that, as a France hater, I give you my most sincere condolences about your loss.
I think thats interesting. imagine you learning your ancestors was ruled an small piece of land for hundreds of years. so that means you aree technically part of an royal family... man hre is absolutely complex and beautiful.
In my opinion, the HRE was the most interesting part of early/modern European history. Crazy to think that united Germany is younger than the US, before then they were just regional squabbling powers.
@@perpisdich3386 Tbh I wouldn't call germany united at any point before Prussia. Even back in the middle ages the king/emperor constantly had to deal with rebelling vassals, something that countries like France and England rarely had to deal with.
@@CHRB-nn6qp lmao french didnt get their shit together until 17th century, precisely the 30 years war..Half of eastern france belonged to hre for 600 years. And england was too irrelevant before industrial revolution.
but they still found together from time to time, eg. when Vienna was sieged by the Ottomans in 1683 most parts of the HRE sent troops to relieve the city, even some Protestant ones.
France: Hey HRE how many Kids do you have ? Holy Roman: Yes France: no i ask how many u have Holy Roman: Ähm so 300 France: What in the name of the holy Baguette
That’s because these territories weren’t a singular „Organisation“ of you want so. They were all owned by individuals, and were direct vassals of the empire, therefore being shown as a single state :)
The one thing I know about Barby is an anecdote my dad told me. Close to the end of WW2 the governor of Barby refused to surrender to the US-american troops - so they bombarded the nearby town of Zerbst (the House of Anhalt-Zerbst is where Sophie Auguste Friederike a.k.a. Catherine the Great is from) and destroyed like 80% of it. Including my grandparents' house. My dad was still in my granny's womb by then and this event contributed heavily to her giving birth to my dad like two months prematurely.
@@leroiarouf1142 The Prussians whooped the Austrians in the Seven Years' War and ripped Silesia from them. The only time they really got smashed prior to 1870 (as the Kingdom of Prussia, NOT Brandenburg) was during the Napoleonic Wars and their defeat to Russia in the former.
@@leroiarouf1142 Prussia was practically equal to Saxony (previously the most powerful German single state) by the end of Frederick William I's reign, and was recognized as the most powerful German state by the end of the Seven Years' War. Even the Electorate of Brandenburg in 1648 was considered to be a major player in the HRE, and as the map shows had a lot of territory, even if a lot of it was swamp and forest.
@@robinrehlinghaus1944 Rather, the city states of Italy became more and more powerful, and imperial authority (in the whole empire) declined. The pope was only one of several Italian powers that challenged and rejected imperial rule.
the south of Italy was never part of the HRE at any point, so not neither Naples nor Sicily proper were part of it. But most of Northern Italy (except Venice), including Verona initially (later it got conquered by Venice) and Genoa, were indeed part of the HRE before leaving (I believe somewhere at the end of the XVth century, thought I'm not certain about the date)
@@dragskcinnay3184 To my knowledge, the Italian states didn't officially leave the HRE, it was just that imperial authority there had become de facto too weak. But the Habsburgs kept some dynastic influence in Lombardy.
knights held land _everywhere_ in Europe. But, apart from monastic states (like the Teutonic order in northern Poland), only in the HRE did knights hold land directly from the sovereign ; besides, in the XVIIth century, knights didn't really exist in the medieval sense anymore, or if they did, they weren't feudal lords anymore... except in the HRE, where Imperial Knights developed into a class of nobility holding land directly from the Emperor
Schooling didn’t really exost yet. The vast majority of people would just live in rural areas never leaving it and just doing the same their parents did. The clergy and nobility were educated, but of course they didn’t have to know ALL territories. Then again, there are about 180 countries today and many people can remember them all, this really isn’t so bad if you’re surrounded by it your whole life
@@Icetea-2000 Schools existed in towns and monasteries, but you had to pay to attend. Commoners and lower aristocrats sent their children there. Richer aristocrats hired private teachers for their kids.
I almost didn't watch this masterpiece At the first seconds I thought you are going to just display names at random places for 4 minutes Later I realized that those names are the names of some tiny tiny dots across an unfinished map
Feudalism. Many tiny states were created for specific purposes, such as small Imperial Cities and Abbeys. Rulers would often inherit titles for territories as well. So you would have one ruler be the Duke of his own duchy as well as the title of whatever territory he would inherit. For example, Ferdinand I of Austria claimed the throne of Bohemia and he was able to establish rule over the Kingdom. He would be Archduke of Austria and King of Bohemia. Later, Austria would inherit Hungary, making them the Kings of Hungary. Duke William of Normandy, aka William the Conqueror, was Duke of Normandy and also King of England after the Normans defeated the Anglo-Saxons. Monarchies often had these cases of another person inheriting the territory even if the land was completely disconnected. Sometimes it was purely diplomatic while other times it was enforced via military.
@@saxtonhalegaming There was also the issue of inheritance law in many areas demanding that lands be divided up among one's children, instead of one child inheriting everything. So what was once a united administrative region often became a fractured, arbitrary mess when the local ruler died and their children split up the holdings. Repeat that over generations, and it was easy for the land to become laughably atomized among a legion of petty lords.
wars. they fought A LOT and I mean A LOT thats why when germany finally united it was so scarry. it took the entire world put together, twice, to take down this warmonger behmoth
@@tbotalpha8133 That's what happened to the Franks. Every time the ruler died, the kingdom would be divided up between his sons. They would fight and go to war, some would consolidate a large portion of territory, but then when they died this land would go to their own sons. So a land divided into thirds might become divided into 6ths, 7ths, 8ths, or 9ths within a generation or two. Crazy stuff.
@@dinamosflams Wars would not explain the enclaves and exclaves though. In war, usually the victors take land that they can easily control. The reason for the enclaves and exclaves was feudalism and inheritance.
And this *video* alone explains the *reason* why the *Holy Roman Empire* fell aside from *Napoleon* , it was not as *centralized* as *England* or *France* .
Why only show Savoy out of the Italian states? Even though they were cut off from the rest of the Empire, the Emperor still had legal overlordship of the various states of the Kingdom of Italy (Piedmont, Milan, Mantua, Parma, Modena, Tuscany, and so on) until the Treaty of Campo Formo in 1797.
@@warrenhughley1214 There would be more states, as the HRE would be bigger, and also, it's the Middle Ages, so there would be even more duchies and counties and all that stuff due to feudalism, which is why when you see duchies and counties going to war with each other in the Middle Ages, chances are, you're looking at somewhere in the HRE, outside of the HRE, wars between duchies and counties were rare, and unsurprisingly, wars between kingdoms were more common, think of the Hundred Years War between France and England, or the Reconquista, or the Crusades, or even Eastern Europe as a whole, the HRE had always been decentralized throughout its entire existence, actually, it had always been more decentralized than the rest of Europe, so a huge number of states in the HRE are always to be expected.
So does Bohemia get to be called a "kingdom" because its ruler was the Emperor, or is smth else going on here? I always kind of assumed the Hapsburgs were always Emperors during this period of history but I also thought you weren't allowed to have a kingdom in the HRE...
Bohemia is a special case in the HRE. In the later half of the 12th Century the duchy of Bohemia grew more powerful by the day and as a compromise to not get in the way of the emperor, the duchy was elevated to a kingdom rank, whose king was still a vassal of the german King.
@@marsultor6131 often, but not always, the King of Bohemia was also the Holy Roman Emperor, even over changing dynasties (first the Luxemburgers, later the Habsburgs, for one brief moment even a Wittelsbacher - Ferndinand von der Pfalz, the Winter King).
You ever notice how in old fairy tales it seems like there is some new prince around every corner? Now you know why.
HRE the ultimate fairy tale land
@@__chinmay__ I mean a lot of fairy tales are German as well... So it's all making sense now.......
The days of European Christendom could return but the TVs and ads are run by rabid anti-Christians. I wonder how quickly things would return to Christian order without the hypnotism of secular lusts and secular entertainment monopolized and force fed to the masses from childhood. Can’t go back, they tell us, or your an N-word. A bunch of bull.
Except there is only one kingdom in this video which is Bohemia. Most states of the HRE were just imperial knightly estates.
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei They were still many princes technically, as in a land ruled by a prince and not a Kingdom
But true most fairy tales does involves kings, well tbf theres still France right next to it with over dozens of princes due to previous kings not keeping it in their pants for example, but 1 king
"Once upon a time... in a small kingdom"
if you're the ruler of a small state in HRE you will cause a serious war just by shooting your cannons on your land
those small kingdoms only have one city and small territories around it. imagine you walk through three countries to visit your grandmother
Because of the HRE I figured out why all kingdoms are small in childrens’ books. Not to far-fetched after all.
@Legionaru Emanuel Answer: Feudalism
@Legionaru Emanuel because they are in germany
I want an HRE jigsaw puzzle where each state is a piece 🧩
When the piece is the size of a atom or seed:
When there are only the big pieces and not the small pieces:
Hay 120 minis si se te pieren:😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵
Enjoy your pain puzzle
Imagined it shattered?Would we combined back or starting establishing a new Confederation of the Rhine ;)
Imagine the EU if these states were still around. The EU Parliament would look like the Galactic Senate.
Interesting idea but pretty much impossible. EU formed after WW2
@@boredweeb867 he literally said "imagine" you doodoohead
@@boredweeb867 not even close bro
@@falkrichterr4164
How? If WW2 didn't happen, there would be no incentive for European cooperation which eventually lead to the creation of EU
@@boredweeb867 Bro we know. It's just a hypothetical.
It's like if we said "wow what if X" and you said "well technically alternative history is impossible due to the deterministic nature of matter and energy states in the universe 🤓", which is technically correct, but we are just imagining things for entertainment
Essentially when a poor woman in a Disney movie becomes a princess, she moves into the house next door and becomes co-ruler of about 400 feet of land.
Title: "Duke of the Forrest of Wesselthaw, Prince of the eastern wood, Guardian of the glade, the barron of greener Wesselthaw, and high lord of the greater fertile lands od wesselthaw!"
What it actually means: Guy who owns that half acre of trees over there in some middle of nowhere town called Wesselthaw.
At first I was like 'why are the names so small and scattered? Is this some compilation before they start showing them?' Then I noticed what I thought were debris on my computer screen. OH. Woah.
Lol
Saaame
Same
same
Watching this on the phone so you can imagine how annoying that was
Teacher: "The test wont be that complicated!"
The test:
Have mercy i need an A
Oh you want extra credit? name every single imperial city and barony in the hre circa the 17th century.
Name every political entity from the HRE.
@@benjaminphelps561 I need their acreage and populations too.
Voltaire's nightmare.
"HRE is not that complicated"
HRE: Lordship of Dyck
One day the Emperor could bear his vassal no longer, so he told him to fuck off by making him the Lord of Dyck
it means dyke, the land behind a dyke (that's why it is in the North, near the Netherlands).
The amount of effort you put in to this video is absolutely amazing, especially since the HRE had an absolute mess of borders great job. 👍
The good ol' days when my home city was its own country xD
Venice?
Do you have the slighthest idea how little that narrows it down
State, not Country
@@robinrehlinghaus1944 Ein eigenes Land ganz gewiß!
@@limeliciousmapping4652 Land ist ein sehr vager Begriff... oder verstehe ich da gerade eine Anspielung nicht?
Absolutely amazing work mate!
in the first ten seconds I thought that you made it without a map until I realized there were small yellow dots on the screen.
I thought there was some dust on my computer screen.
Amazing how much land was owned by abbeys and bishops. Also funny to see that land was also rewarded to knights.
Those were knights of the Teutonic order, a crusader holy order that conquered east Prussia from the pagans but after the leader converted to Protestantism and became a vassal of Poland the knights lost that land
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Those territories of the imperial knights were not about the Teutonic Order. Imperial knights were simply knights who served directly under the emperor with no other lords between them, just as imperial cities had no lord above them but the emperor. .
Ideally, every knight had land. That's how they sustained themselves, at least that was the idea during medieval times, this map is later obviously. But most knights had lords between them and the emperor and their land would be part of some of the other territories we see in the video.
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei oh I didn’t know they still had knights even after the end of the mideval era
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Well, the German word for knight Ritter mostly refers to a group of low nobility and their titles and privileges only truly lost their meaning with the end of the HRE in 1806. They had long lost their military use, but they were still nobles with control over land, although the high nobility tried it's best to get rid of them and rule directly over their stuff in a sort of small scale absolutism.
Teacher:You know the Holy Roman Empire?Name every state
Me:
She didn't specify the year. So you can just take her back to the time of Charlemagne: Frankia.
3rd Grade Geography Test:
Name all the States with their respective Capitals.
German Kids in 2024: 😎
German Kids in 1648: 💀
Wow man this is just incredible. This must have been so hard. Great job man
If we had a puzzle like this...😅
Impossible to finish lmao
@@JJLiu-xc3kg Just like the real thing.
It has to be the size of a huge carpet. That can work
the members of every royal family there did.
merging in groups, maybe?🔴🔴🔴🟢🟢🟢🔵🔵🔵🟡🟡🟡
And now realise that this is just a snapshot of 1645. These borders changed a lot and a lot of other regions where in the HRR before.
1648, remember the year, it is important.
I just noticed something... Within the final map, you can DEFINITELY make out Germany's modern-day borders, especially the eastern border.
The border between Saxony and bohemia
Bavaria and Austria
And if you draw a line from the 3-way intersection of Saxony bohemia and Brandenburg up to the southeastern tip of pomerania, you'll see it.
Jupp
How many states do you want?
Ferdinand von Bayern: Yes.
Imagine if the HRE centralised all these kingdoms and created states, the power they would wield would be incredible.
They were originally centralised, but derove more and more into decentralisation until napoleon destroyed the HRE in 1805, after that just 30 were left
Yeah until 1200 the hre Was a super power
R E V O K E
T H E
P R I V E L I G I A
Blame the austrians. Ever since the habsburgs took control from the 15th century things went downhill, before that it was a great power when ruled by the saxon and luxembourish dynasty
@@thepretorian5292 Yeah, it's always the Austrians. Whatever bad happens to Germany, it's always an Austrians fault
I love how this has the most epic music playing in the background
3:33: Fun fact: The County of Bentheim under this name and in these boundaries still exists today as a Landkreis in Lower Saxony.
Great video!
Good decision to concentrate on the main territories, and leave out the smallest and most fragmented ones. The video has just the right amount of detail to illustrates what a mess the HRE was, without losing your mind watching (or creating) it.
Those were the main territories?!
@@NicolasTheKingphoenix10 That's the fun thing about the Holy Roman Empire. It's "turtles all the way down".
@@NicolasTheKingphoenix10 And yes, they're the "main" territories, in the sense that some of them were the result of a merger of smaller previous territories, or the progenitors of multiple states that were split off at some date.
There's no way to make this an enjoyable video if you acknowledge that there were almost no two years between 800 and 1800 with the same map. The video is a snapshot of what the HRE looked like in 1648.
For example, there was a county of Battenberg, which was created in the 13th century when it split from the county of Wittgenstein. In 1464, it merged with Hesse, together with the neighboring county of Hatzfeld, while the county of Wittgenstein later became Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg. Hesse was split in several parts in the 16th century, most of which merged again into two main states by 1648 (Hesse-Kassel and Hesse-Darmstadt).
@@NicolasTheKingphoenix10
Yeah, many of the most microscopic territories like knight lands, were shown as one group rather than individual rulers.
Me: you are exaggerating mom, my room is not that messy
My room:
When they said: "Every man will be a king" I didn't expect this.
actually there was only one king
It was a beautiful ecosystem of feudal kingdoms
There was only one kingdom in the video, Bohemia.
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei Feudal realms then?
It wasnt beutiful,it was stupid
tf does realm meme? Sounds like minecraft
Excellent!! Great Job! I remember when I was college going on a quest to find all 600 some states of the Holy Roman Empire. Thank you for fulling my unfinished quest.
1:27 - the county of Holzapfel was founded my ancestors. They gained this area following the Thirty years war, but lost it after the Napoleonic wars.
As always, the French ruining everything. I do not know you my German friend, but I assure you that, as a France hater, I give you my most sincere condolences about your loss.
I think thats interesting. imagine you learning your ancestors was ruled an small piece of land for hundreds of years. so that means you aree technically part of an royal family... man hre is absolutely complex and beautiful.
also how your family is gained this lands?
It was purchased from Nassau by a field marshal who had become rich during the thirty years war.
In my opinion, the HRE was the most interesting part of early/modern European history. Crazy to think that united Germany is younger than the US, before then they were just regional squabbling powers.
A united germany did exist before the US, just that the unity broke down over time
The kingdom of Germany was around in the 900s and early 1000s
@@perpisdich3386 Tbh I wouldn't call germany united at any point before Prussia. Even back in the middle ages the king/emperor constantly had to deal with rebelling vassals, something that countries like France and England rarely had to deal with.
@@CHRB-nn6qp You migjt want to read up on French and English history then
@@CHRB-nn6qp lmao french didnt get their shit together until 17th century, precisely the 30 years war..Half of eastern france belonged to hre for 600 years. And england was too irrelevant before industrial revolution.
the moment when you have your own country but its even smaller than a minecraft map
AcTuAlLy, a minecraft world is the size of Neptune
I’m pretty sure people have made Minecraft bases bigger than everything in the first half of the video at least
The treaty of Westphalia (1648) essentially killed the Holy Roman Empire, for it gave all it's states the right to follow their own foreign policy.
@Булат Тимиргазин ???
but they still found together from time to time, eg. when Vienna was sieged by the Ottomans in 1683 most parts of the HRE sent troops to relieve the city, even some Protestant ones.
@@ekesandras1481 Quite right. The Habsburgs were still powerul, and the The fall of the imperial capital to the muslims was a dreadful thought.
France: Hey HRE how many Kids do you have ?
Holy Roman: Yes
France: no i ask how many u have
Holy Roman: Ähm so 300
France: What in the name of the holy Baguette
≈1800
it was holy
it was Roman
it was an Empire
And it was Glorious!!!
XD
Yes
No
HOLY ✅
ROMAN ❌
EMPIRE ✅
Best video i ever see!
Respect to you
In the beginning I thought I didn't clean my computer screen but those specks of dust were actually tiny HRE states lol
Now that is what we have always wanted, thank you, it's wonderful!
The territory of imperial knights killed me. Its one of the biggest, but absolutely is just static over the whole of the empire.
That’s because these territories weren’t a singular „Organisation“ of you want so. They were all owned by individuals, and were direct vassals of the empire, therefore being shown as a single state :)
Incredible work
2:16 present day Liechtenstein?
Actually about three-quarters of present-day Liechtenstein...Schellenberg at 0:37 supplied the rest.
Most of it
Juste impressionnant comme travail. Bravo
My favorites: Barby, Burgberg, Rot, Weil der Stadt (XD) and Dyck (legendary)
Fugger for me.
The one thing I know about Barby is an anecdote my dad told me. Close to the end of WW2 the governor of Barby refused to surrender to the US-american troops - so they bombarded the nearby town of Zerbst (the House of Anhalt-Zerbst is where Sophie Auguste Friederike a.k.a. Catherine the Great is from) and destroyed like 80% of it. Including my grandparents' house. My dad was still in my granny's womb by then and this event contributed heavily to her giving birth to my dad like two months prematurely.
don't forget fugger and ulm
If you like Burgberg... Come to my local burger restaurant in Bergedorf, and try their Bergeburger!
My heart when I was betrayed by a friend
4:44
"There's my boy."
Prussia is noob until 1870
@@leroiarouf1142 The Prussians whooped the Austrians in the Seven Years' War and ripped Silesia from them. The only time they really got smashed prior to 1870 (as the Kingdom of Prussia, NOT Brandenburg) was during the Napoleonic Wars and their defeat to Russia in the former.
The one that I hate the most
@@leroiarouf1142 Prussia was practically equal to Saxony (previously the most powerful German single state) by the end of Frederick William I's reign, and was recognized as the most powerful German state by the end of the Seven Years' War. Even the Electorate of Brandenburg in 1648 was considered to be a major player in the HRE, and as the map shows had a lot of territory, even if a lot of it was swamp and forest.
@@baraxor nah prussia became strong cause of french hugenot( prostestan minoriti) who give to prussia french stuff
i needed this!
The HRE had more area bck in the 13th century= Two sicilys and teutonic order and verona and (i think) genoa for example
Almost all of italy at some points. The popes just pulled more and more under their jurisdiction and ignored imperial authority
@@robinrehlinghaus1944 Rather, the city states of Italy became more and more powerful, and imperial authority (in the whole empire) declined. The pope was only one of several Italian powers that challenged and rejected imperial rule.
@@varana That's true, I just wanted to point out the pope as the major italian player. Next to Venice possibly.
the south of Italy was never part of the HRE at any point, so not neither Naples nor Sicily proper were part of it. But most of Northern Italy (except Venice), including Verona initially (later it got conquered by Venice) and Genoa, were indeed part of the HRE before leaving (I believe somewhere at the end of the XVth century, thought I'm not certain about the date)
@@dragskcinnay3184 To my knowledge, the Italian states didn't officially leave the HRE, it was just that imperial authority there had become de facto too weak. But the Habsburgs kept some dynastic influence in Lombardy.
‘sorry for breaking your yellow vase man’
‘np man i can put it back together watch’
The fact that some knights had lands of any recognizable size, and that there were so many of them, is completely absurd. Only in the HRE.
>only in HRE
*All over Europe thanks to the crusades
knights held land _everywhere_ in Europe. But, apart from monastic states (like the Teutonic order in northern Poland), only in the HRE did knights hold land directly from the sovereign ; besides, in the XVIIth century, knights didn't really exist in the medieval sense anymore, or if they did, they weren't feudal lords anymore... except in the HRE, where Imperial Knights developed into a class of nobility holding land directly from the Emperor
Imagine being in school in 1648 and having to learn all of them 😂
Good thing the modern education system was only invented more than a century later by Prussia
Schooling didn’t really exost yet. The vast majority of people would just live in rural areas never leaving it and just doing the same their parents did.
The clergy and nobility were educated, but of course they didn’t have to know ALL territories. Then again, there are about 180 countries today and many people can remember them all, this really isn’t so bad if you’re surrounded by it your whole life
@@Icetea-2000 Schools existed in towns and monasteries, but you had to pay to attend. Commoners and lower aristocrats sent their children there. Richer aristocrats hired private teachers for their kids.
4:32 that guy is from the iberian union
Yeah, Burgundy was ruled by Spain
so
Magnifique travaille. 👏👏👏 beautiful work.
I almost didn't watch this masterpiece At the first seconds I thought you are going to just display names at random places for 4 minutes Later I realized that those names are the names of some tiny tiny dots across an unfinished map
Man literally took the time to make this video.
Damn legend
Back when a map of "the Germanies" looked like a Jackson Pollack painting.
How did so many tiny states come about in only the hre and why do so many of them have enclaves and exclaves?
Feudalism. Many tiny states were created for specific purposes, such as small Imperial Cities and Abbeys. Rulers would often inherit titles for territories as well. So you would have one ruler be the Duke of his own duchy as well as the title of whatever territory he would inherit. For example, Ferdinand I of Austria claimed the throne of Bohemia and he was able to establish rule over the Kingdom. He would be Archduke of Austria and King of Bohemia. Later, Austria would inherit Hungary, making them the Kings of Hungary. Duke William of Normandy, aka William the Conqueror, was Duke of Normandy and also King of England after the Normans defeated the Anglo-Saxons. Monarchies often had these cases of another person inheriting the territory even if the land was completely disconnected. Sometimes it was purely diplomatic while other times it was enforced via military.
@@saxtonhalegaming There was also the issue of inheritance law in many areas demanding that lands be divided up among one's children, instead of one child inheriting everything. So what was once a united administrative region often became a fractured, arbitrary mess when the local ruler died and their children split up the holdings. Repeat that over generations, and it was easy for the land to become laughably atomized among a legion of petty lords.
wars. they fought A LOT
and I mean
A
LOT
thats why when germany finally united it was so scarry. it took the entire world put together, twice, to take down this warmonger behmoth
@@tbotalpha8133 That's what happened to the Franks. Every time the ruler died, the kingdom would be divided up between his sons. They would fight and go to war, some would consolidate a large portion of territory, but then when they died this land would go to their own sons. So a land divided into thirds might become divided into 6ths, 7ths, 8ths, or 9ths within a generation or two. Crazy stuff.
@@dinamosflams Wars would not explain the enclaves and exclaves though. In war, usually the victors take land that they can easily control. The reason for the enclaves and exclaves was feudalism and inheritance.
Great Video
3:39 the absolute best place in the HRE
* 4:26
@@theultimatefreak666Pfalz Neuburg?
@@KingJupiter yeah, Berg is under them at this point in time 😔 (fucking Erbfolgestreit)
@@theultimatefreak666 I'm just glad they didn't Unite Nassau and Nassau Saarbrücken
4:10 - Very cool borders👍👍👍👍
It was all of the homes of knights that became incredibly small countries
Imagine being forced to recite all of this and the task is worth 69%of your grade
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL
🙏💜🙏
Amazing!
In time to see my favourite mess be assembled
And this *video* alone explains the *reason* why the *Holy Roman Empire* fell aside from *Napoleon* , it was not as *centralized* as *England* or *France* .
lets just hope the EU doesnt fall in the same manner against more centralised opponents.
@@louisbourdeau4976 On the contrary, let's hope it does.
As late as 1918, the German Empire had more than two dozen semi-independent polities.
@@kafon6368 based
If the EU is gone European countries will become pawns in great power games between China, America and even Russia
this would look like a galactic senate if all rulers joined in one meeting
Ce bordel. Super travail
So, most of lords at the time are lords over just a city or even town.
Awesome man, congratulations
I need an interavtive map of the whole political world during all of history in this detailed level!
''Which nations have you been to?''
''It's complicated...''
Also imagine having to draw borders in 1648
One could hear a synchronized sight of relief once the cartographers heard of the unification of Germany.
The first couple minutes just looked like i had a dirty screen
Your work is amazing!
But Savoy was not like this before the 18th century. The whole Piémont, Aosta, Geneva, Nice and Monaco were part of it
But not all of Savoy was in the HRE, I think this just shows the parts of Savoy that were HRE. Austria also had territories outside of HRE.
@@DiMacky24 as did Brandenburg/Prussia.
Where you found all the maps?
Do you have even those of smaller states?
Thats amazing!!
Now we need a Yakko's World-style song listing these.
Yup
Imagine if Burgberg became the dominant power and established the Hamburger empire
why not Hamburg establishing a Hamburger Empire?
I wonder how Eurovision looks like in 1648 :
And finally 12 point goes to Habsburg
The "Mouse that roared" should be about a German state.
Someone should produce a jigsaw puzzle based on this map.
I expected a detailed map of the HRE with every state lighting up in succession.
This is from smallest to largest, already pretty hard to do
@@randomstuffs8495 Very true.
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Why only show Savoy out of the Italian states? Even though they were cut off from the rest of the Empire, the Emperor still had legal overlordship of the various states of the Kingdom of Italy (Piedmont, Milan, Mantua, Parma, Modena, Tuscany, and so on) until the Treaty of Campo Formo in 1797.
The Heisburg family was just living in a castle in Switzerland, how could they rule most of Europe
those are just HRE's lands, not habsburgs' lands
I think the video strictly sticks to all the parties that singed the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648.
This Rorschach test reminds me of the very border gory Holy Roman Empire as it was in 1648 AD.
Damn, Johann von Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorf from Lubeck was an absolute unit.
Napoleon: This is way too convoluted, let's clean it up a bit, shall we?
you should do the HRE states but when the HRE was actually in its territorial height in the 1200's
That video would be even longer...
@@candyneige6609 so?
@@warrenhughley1214 There would be more states, as the HRE would be bigger, and also, it's the Middle Ages, so there would be even more duchies and counties and all that stuff due to feudalism, which is why when you see duchies and counties going to war with each other in the Middle Ages, chances are, you're looking at somewhere in the HRE, outside of the HRE, wars between duchies and counties were rare, and unsurprisingly, wars between kingdoms were more common, think of the Hundred Years War between France and England, or the Reconquista, or the Crusades, or even Eastern Europe as a whole, the HRE had always been decentralized throughout its entire existence, actually, it had always been more decentralized than the rest of Europe, so a huge number of states in the HRE are always to be expected.
@@candyneige6609 content is content, youtubers will do anything to get more views
@@warrenhughley1214 Exactly.
So does Bohemia get to be called a "kingdom" because its ruler was the Emperor, or is smth else going on here? I always kind of assumed the Hapsburgs were always Emperors during this period of history but I also thought you weren't allowed to have a kingdom in the HRE...
Bohemia is a special case in the HRE. In the later half of the 12th Century the duchy of Bohemia grew more powerful by the day and as a compromise to not get in the way of the emperor, the duchy was elevated to a kingdom rank, whose king was still a vassal of the german King.
@@marsultor6131 often, but not always, the King of Bohemia was also the Holy Roman Emperor, even over changing dynasties (first the Luxemburgers, later the Habsburgs, for one brief moment even a Wittelsbacher - Ferndinand von der Pfalz, the Winter King).
i was looking for a timeline in years...then i realized it wasn't SINCE 1648, it was just 1648
People can make an entire Wesnoth Campaign, hell even world building after the HRE
wow this is incredible
I’m gonna learn all of these to impress my friend
Her: c’mon meet my family, we ain’t that many to remember!
The family:
F in chat for 1648 cartographers who had to draw maps of this place
This is so epic.
Ah yes, a feudal state made of hundreds of tiny lil divisions. Just how I like it
"Lordship of Steinhal" sounds kinda cool TBH
0:04 - "Burgberg"
Can you do the 1800 version pls bc i dont know the states yet
Her: I think I can fix him.
Him:
I thought these were dirty spots on my screen at first.
Why is nobody talking about how the music lines up so well with the video, if you skip to any part then you will see it
And people wonder why we simplify the HRE on maps.