Lol they're so desperate for Chelsea to be title contenders so they can laugh at us when/if we slip up. They're so bitter how well we're doing right now.
@@joshuaninja23 they should have though, they had plenty of well established players and had a massive lead at the top of the league, yet they bottled it.
Do you know what it is... us Chelsea fans dont give a flying fck about being contenders in December its irrelevant. If you're proper title contenders you will be there in March onwards...
Well it doesn't really matter if you give a flying or rolling fvcks does it? The fact is you are 2 pounts off top with a game more played. Thats contending for title
Before the season this gang was putting Chelsea in 10th~ position and now they are demanding chelsea fans to say they are title contenders. If you hade nuanced thoughtful analysis before spewing your opinions maybe you wouldnt be wrong all the time.
The thing is there are so many similarities between this chelsea team and Villa last year, nobody thought they were contenders despite being second around this time of year and they eventually dropped off
the man united fella 3 weeks ago said that Chelsea aren't so far ahead of where united are after that draw , yet he is putting Chelsea as title contenders? does that mean he thinks united are good enough to be contenders as well ? and so by his logic united have already bottled there season 15 games in.... the audacity
Maybe Maresca should look at what Bobby Campbell did in 89. We were in contention for promotion back to the top flight with a young team, playing good football, but still vulnerable defensively. Campbell brought in Dave Beasant in goal along with Graham Roberts and Peter Nicholas to defend the backline, we romped home breaking a few records along the way. I feel that we’re in a similar position now, a couple of battle worn experienced players in key positions would make us contenders.
Flex make a good point about this season u don't have to great to win it Which I agree but still we are not in the title race, but if the title Chase us we will take it
We're a team that hasn't beaten any of the "traditional" top 6 teams except Tottenham, the weakest of the 6, we also haven't beaten any of the current top 6 teams except Bournemouth, the weakest of the 6, yet somehow people think we're in a title race just because we're the closest to Liverpool with a squad lacking experience in this kind of situation, we're just trying to secure top 4 this season. Arsenal are underperforming when they're 8 points off their pace last season, which would be 4 points above us right now, City are massively underperforming so would likely be 6+ points above us and we'd be 4th if those teams we're doing as we've come to expect off them, if we were 4th and 6+ points off top spot nobody would be saying we're involved in the race, they'd be saying we'll be dropping off in the new year. Other teams failings in a title race doesn't make Chelsea in a title race just to have something interesting to talk about rather than expecting Liverpool to walk the league going forward.
The same Bournemouth team who have beaten Arsenal Manchester City Tottenham what about the other teams like Newcastle and Brighton who Chelsea’s taken more points against than Liverpool City and Arsenal combined. Chelsea has lost the less games in the last 12 months than Liverpool City and Arsenal have. Chelsea has lost to Liverpool twice and Arsenal and City.
@@liberalslayer7220 Nobody has said Bournemouth haven't done well this season...but it's still Bournemouth and in terms of their squad they are the weakest of the current top 6, let alone are beating a Tottenham side who leak goals for fun and City who are falling apart, that's not the kind of flex it would be in previous seasons to say they aren't a weak side still in comparison to most of the league's squads. What about Brighton and Newcastle? They're both mid-table? You want to start touting Chelsea as Champions elect because we can beat teams in mid-table like that's not a requirement for any team wanting to be top 4? Lol Calendar year is not this season, people need to stop getting obsessed with this calendar year thing like it means anything beyond just a fun factoid otherwise you start becoming Spurs fans talking about Calendar years means they'd have 2 titles in the Poch era -_-
Aston villa were considered title contenders last season, so why not Chelsea, who sit a clear second ,2 points behind the leaders after spending £1.6 billion and have literally 3 players to each position ?!?
Because Aston Villa weren't considered title contenders is the biggest flaw in your argument there lol Everyone was praising how well Villa were doing but were all talking about how they're doing well enough to secure top 4 which is great for them at that point in time. The only conversation close to "title contenders" was people talking about the calendar year they were second on points but that's not anything to do with "title contenders" when the season isn't a calendar year.
@nathanhenry7692 OK,let's round it down to £1 billion for the sake of it. LAST 3 SEASONS : summer just gone.. Neto (wolves) 60M Jai Felix (Atletico) 52M Dewsbury Hall (Leicester) 35M Filip Jorgensen (villareal) 24.5M Mike Penders (Genk) 16.5M Renton Veige (fc basel) 14M 2023/2024 Moises Conceido (Brighton) 116M Lavia (Southampton ) 62.10M Knunku (Leipzig) 60M Palmer (city) 47M Diasi (Monaco) 45M Jackson (villareal) 37M Ugochwaukwu (Rennes) 27M Sanchez (Brighton) 23M Petrovic (New England) 16M Washington (Santos) 16M Angelo (Santos) 15M 2022/2023 Fernández (Benfica) 121M Fofana (Leicester) 80M Mudrik (shaktar) 70M Cucurella (Brighton) 65M Sterling (city) 56M Kaulabali (Napoli) 41M Badishille (Monaco) 38M Madueke (PSV) 35M Gusto (Lyon) 30 Casadei (Inter) 14.8M Chukwemmeka (Villa) 18M Santos (vasc de Gama) 12.5 Aubamayang (Barcelona) 12M ... These are just some of the main players that Chelsea has bought in the last 3 summers alone..NOW try and tell me you haven't spent at least £1Billion ?!?
@@sammyboy12345 I don't think he was trying to say that Chelsea haven't spent over 1b, just that the 1.6b is inflated when the number is closer to 1.3b and 300m is essentially a transfer window and half in modern day so that's a decent chunk off to put it as a fair question that OP is wrong in quoting 1.6b specifically.
This is such obvious aftv propaganda. If Liverpool don't win it, Robbie will say they bottled it. If Liverpool win he'll moan about the 1.5 billion Chelsea spent. All set up so he can avoid talking about how his beloved arsenal and Arteta have bottled it already.
It's very simple really, if Brentford were 2nd in the league right now, would they be considered title contenders? Absolutely not. It's the same thing for Chelsea. Both teams were not considered contenders before the season started, and while 16 games is enough to start dreaming, it is not enough to warrant a reassessment of our title credentials. Now there is most certainly a number, where after said number of games you would have no choice but to acknowledge a team's title credentials, however that number is not 16. Similarly, are City still contenders? Absolutely. They were strong favourites before the season started, and 16 games is not enough to count them out. Again, there is a number, where after said number of games, if City were still some distance behind 1st, then you would reassess and no longer consider them contenders. Again, that number is not 16. In my personal opinion, if after 2/3 of a season, or about 24-25 games, a team is still only a few points off 1st, then I would say at this stage you would have to acknowledge that team as title challengers, whether that team is Chelsea or Brentford.
It’s actually sickening how desperate these lot are for us to label ourselves title contenders when their teams are dead af, they’re better off concentrating all that focus and energy in their teams.
villa were in a better position by new year and so far off the title by the end this chelsea team doesnt look like title winners to m thats not dissing it just loooks like a title charge
Chelsea fans have seen contending title teams before. We are clam for a reason. We know the qualities it takes to win the big one. Allow us to focus on the next game. You guys wont benefit from us saying we are in the race anyway.
Can you guys just buzz off off....stop boring us chelsea fans. We are free to feel what we want. We don't need you to tell us whether we are in a title race or not.
Much as I would love us to win the league, we simply won't and I'll give you one name for that reason: Sanchez. He doesn't always play badly but he has mistakes in him that will cost us.
We don’t want Liverpool to when the title so just accept the title challenge. Mufc fans and other fans want Chelsea to win the title before Liverpool, City or even Arsenal.
Every club have 25 players , why is every pundits think Chelsea have more😂 they registered 25 players like the other 19 clubs😂
Lol they're so desperate for Chelsea to be title contenders so they can laugh at us when/if we slip up. They're so bitter how well we're doing right now.
Exactly
Hmmm, almost sounds like the exact same thing that was being said about Liverpool fans 🤔
@Luminous242 Matisse is a Real Hypocrite remember two seasons ago when he said Arsenal must win the league
@@____jke7778said no one
@@joshuaninja23 they should have though, they had plenty of well established players and had a massive lead at the top of the league, yet they bottled it.
Do you know what it is... us Chelsea fans dont give a flying fck about being contenders in December its irrelevant. If you're proper title contenders you will be there in March onwards...
Because we have big ambitions. We don't just waffle about, these others don't know nothing about anything
Exactly
Well it doesn't really matter if you give a flying or rolling fvcks does it? The fact is you are 2 pounts off top with a game more played. Thats contending for title
Well said 👏
Nobody is ever gonna remember who finished in 2nd in the future, what matters is who won.
Chelsea fans are calm and realistic and wait till end of season
Never Civil or well mannered when Abbi or AGT is about... 🤣
That AGT guy just wants Chelsea to slip up so bad…his opinion sooo biased
@@ImTonyHendrixhe’s gonna have a rude awakening when Liverpool do… as they have a HISTORY of bottling the league 😂
Before the season this gang was putting Chelsea in 10th~ position and now they are demanding chelsea fans to say they are title contenders. If you hade nuanced thoughtful analysis before spewing your opinions maybe you wouldnt be wrong all the time.
Civil & well mannered does NOT exist AT ALL on this platform😂Only shamelessness, deflection & chaos over here🤣🤣
It’s crazy how Ty can say that arsenal are still in the title race because theres still time but if mah says Chelsea isn’t it’s WW3
We’re a small minded team we just want 3pts
We're just a conference league team interested in 3 points. We're not title contenders, we can't be with that defence and the goalkeeper.
I’m just looking forward to finally hitting 40 points and hopefully get far in the conference league 🙏
I am a Chelsea fan as well but this is top notch shithousery😂
We Chelsea, we thrive under chaos and Italians always win something in their first year. All I'm saying, nevertheless, we KTBFFH
Matise trying his best to “stay humble eh” 😂😂
The Abbi girl speaks with so much pride, poise and confidence that it is hard to believe she backs Tottenham. Is there no more shame in this world?😅😅😅
The thing is there are so many similarities between this chelsea team and Villa last year, nobody thought they were contenders despite being second around this time of year and they eventually dropped off
comparing villa's squad to chelsea is insane.. villa have nowhere near the quality chelsea do
the man united fella 3 weeks ago said that Chelsea aren't so far ahead of where united are after that draw , yet he is putting Chelsea as title contenders? does that mean he thinks united are good enough to be contenders as well ? and so by his logic united have already bottled there season 15 games in.... the audacity
Maybe Maresca should look at what Bobby Campbell did in 89. We were in contention for promotion back to the top flight with a young team, playing good football, but still vulnerable defensively. Campbell brought in Dave Beasant in goal along with Graham Roberts and Peter Nicholas to defend the backline, we romped home breaking a few records along the way. I feel that we’re in a similar position now, a couple of battle worn experienced players in key positions would make us contenders.
Chelsea doesn’t do title races. When we win titles there is no race. We are honest about ourselves when we’re not there yet.
Lol the arrogance. 07/08 you drew on the last day to lose the title by 2 points.
Arsenal fans are hilariously delirious
being contenders means nothing if u DONT WIN and we dont have a squad to win the league so IT DONT MATTER
If we win it by mistake it's not our fault... 😢
Flex make a good point about this season u don't have to great to win it Which I agree but still we are not in the title race, but if the title Chase us we will take it
lol i thought the title of the video was sarcastic but they actually did have a civil conversation LMAO
We're a team that hasn't beaten any of the "traditional" top 6 teams except Tottenham, the weakest of the 6, we also haven't beaten any of the current top 6 teams except Bournemouth, the weakest of the 6, yet somehow people think we're in a title race just because we're the closest to Liverpool with a squad lacking experience in this kind of situation, we're just trying to secure top 4 this season. Arsenal are underperforming when they're 8 points off their pace last season, which would be 4 points above us right now, City are massively underperforming so would likely be 6+ points above us and we'd be 4th if those teams we're doing as we've come to expect off them, if we were 4th and 6+ points off top spot nobody would be saying we're involved in the race, they'd be saying we'll be dropping off in the new year. Other teams failings in a title race doesn't make Chelsea in a title race just to have something interesting to talk about rather than expecting Liverpool to walk the league going forward.
Got lucky to beat Bournemouth as well. The squad is great, lots of potential, but there's a long way to go before we can challenge for the title.
The same Bournemouth team who have beaten Arsenal Manchester City Tottenham what about the other teams like Newcastle and Brighton who Chelsea’s taken more points against than Liverpool City and Arsenal combined. Chelsea has lost the less games in the last 12 months than Liverpool City and Arsenal have. Chelsea has lost to Liverpool twice and Arsenal and City.
@@liberalslayer7220 Nobody has said Bournemouth haven't done well this season...but it's still Bournemouth and in terms of their squad they are the weakest of the current top 6, let alone are beating a Tottenham side who leak goals for fun and City who are falling apart, that's not the kind of flex it would be in previous seasons to say they aren't a weak side still in comparison to most of the league's squads.
What about Brighton and Newcastle? They're both mid-table? You want to start touting Chelsea as Champions elect because we can beat teams in mid-table like that's not a requirement for any team wanting to be top 4? Lol
Calendar year is not this season, people need to stop getting obsessed with this calendar year thing like it means anything beyond just a fun factoid otherwise you start becoming Spurs fans talking about Calendar years means they'd have 2 titles in the Poch era -_-
2:45 Robbie, its still December. Your club bottle the league in April after 200+ days on Top.
Aston villa were considered title contenders last season, so why not Chelsea, who sit a clear second ,2 points behind the leaders after spending £1.6 billion and have literally 3 players to each position ?!?
Can you give a breakdown of £1.6bn? I think you’re just clutching at figures.
Because Aston Villa weren't considered title contenders is the biggest flaw in your argument there lol Everyone was praising how well Villa were doing but were all talking about how they're doing well enough to secure top 4 which is great for them at that point in time. The only conversation close to "title contenders" was people talking about the calendar year they were second on points but that's not anything to do with "title contenders" when the season isn't a calendar year.
@nathanhenry7692 yes every player cost 1.6 bl collectively facts sources football
@nathanhenry7692 OK,let's round it down to £1 billion for the sake of it. LAST 3 SEASONS :
summer just gone..
Neto (wolves) 60M
Jai Felix (Atletico) 52M
Dewsbury Hall (Leicester) 35M
Filip Jorgensen (villareal) 24.5M
Mike Penders (Genk) 16.5M
Renton Veige (fc basel) 14M
2023/2024
Moises Conceido (Brighton) 116M
Lavia (Southampton ) 62.10M
Knunku (Leipzig) 60M
Palmer (city) 47M
Diasi (Monaco) 45M
Jackson (villareal) 37M
Ugochwaukwu (Rennes) 27M
Sanchez (Brighton) 23M
Petrovic (New England) 16M
Washington (Santos) 16M
Angelo (Santos) 15M
2022/2023
Fernández (Benfica) 121M
Fofana (Leicester) 80M
Mudrik (shaktar) 70M
Cucurella (Brighton) 65M
Sterling (city) 56M
Kaulabali (Napoli) 41M
Badishille (Monaco) 38M
Madueke (PSV) 35M
Gusto (Lyon) 30
Casadei (Inter) 14.8M
Chukwemmeka (Villa) 18M
Santos (vasc de Gama) 12.5
Aubamayang (Barcelona) 12M
... These are just some of the main players that Chelsea has bought in the last 3 summers alone..NOW try and tell me you haven't spent at least £1Billion ?!?
@@sammyboy12345 I don't think he was trying to say that Chelsea haven't spent over 1b, just that the 1.6b is inflated when the number is closer to 1.3b and 300m is essentially a transfer window and half in modern day so that's a decent chunk off to put it as a fair question that OP is wrong in quoting 1.6b specifically.
Right now Chelsea not only contenders their favourites as well
So much delusional from the Panel, from saying Chelsea could be relegated to forcing us to say we are in a title race?
We are not title contenders we just want 3 points every game
This is such obvious aftv propaganda.
If Liverpool don't win it, Robbie will say they bottled it. If Liverpool win he'll moan about the 1.5 billion Chelsea spent. All set up so he can avoid talking about how his beloved arsenal and Arteta have bottled it already.
It's very simple really, if Brentford were 2nd in the league right now, would they be considered title contenders? Absolutely not. It's the same thing for Chelsea. Both teams were not considered contenders before the season started, and while 16 games is enough to start dreaming, it is not enough to warrant a reassessment of our title credentials. Now there is most certainly a number, where after said number of games you would have no choice but to acknowledge a team's title credentials, however that number is not 16.
Similarly, are City still contenders? Absolutely. They were strong favourites before the season started, and 16 games is not enough to count them out. Again, there is a number, where after said number of games, if City were still some distance behind 1st, then you would reassess and no longer consider them contenders. Again, that number is not 16.
In my personal opinion, if after 2/3 of a season, or about 24-25 games, a team is still only a few points off 1st, then I would say at this stage you would have to acknowledge that team as title challengers, whether that team is Chelsea or Brentford.
It’s actually sickening how desperate these lot are for us to label ourselves title contenders when their teams are dead af, they’re better off concentrating all that focus and energy in their teams.
villa were in a better position by new year and so far off the title by the end this chelsea team doesnt look like title winners to m thats not dissing it just loooks like a title charge
Chelsea fans have seen contending title teams before. We are clam for a reason. We know the qualities it takes to win the big one. Allow us to focus on the next game. You guys wont benefit from us saying we are in the race anyway.
Chelsea will win Epl if Liverpool keeps on making mistakes. They are in the title race .
The Premier League is a race. Let's see how Chelsea are doing come mid March/beginning of April.
Please enough of this title,focus on ur team this is December until end of March pls ask the gaffer.
How does a spurs fan understand a title race…
Can you guys just buzz off off....stop boring us chelsea fans. We are free to feel what we want. We don't need you to tell us whether we are in a title race or not.
Much as I would love us to win the league, we simply won't and I'll give you one name for that reason: Sanchez. He doesn't always play badly but he has mistakes in him that will cost us.
we cant keep a clean sheet to save our lives
This is not civil/well-mannered at all 😅
Title is abt as trustworthy as Tottenham this season
What waffle, Forest much bigger club than pensioners
I think man united are in the title race.
This white girl always cracks me up with her bias 😂
corny
These chelsea fans get on my nerve , just accept it bro
No!
Stay on what you'll were on in August
You guys predicting us to finish 6th-13th stay on that side
Just tryna reach 40 points mate.
@ET.1506that was a reasonable prediction in August
@ exactly so stand by that prediction
We don’t want Liverpool to when the title so just accept the title challenge. Mufc fans and other fans want Chelsea to win the title before Liverpool, City or even Arsenal.