@leila Why isn’t OneNote sync’ing with Outlook on IOS? I am heavily reliant on onenote to work through my emails and other MS Office docs, and I can no longer use ONeNote on the go from my iphone or Ipad
@@thathappyrat I have also used it for years and never experienced losing data. But since the notes are stored in my OneDrive, it might be possible to lose them if they get deleted for some reason.
@@thathappyrat Yes a small part of my data, but that's only because I went through the trouble of manually copy-pasting data from my computer's one note and into the note in my cloud, since the one there only has page titles without the content, and manually write add to it the data from my one note on my phone, since the thing stopped to sync. If not for that, I would have lost every thing when I upgraded to a new computer. It was such a pain that I stopped to use it.
onenote is the best, been using it for years. use it pretty much every day, though i hardly touch any of its features. just a great way to keep information available between pc and phone so no matter where you are you have access. personally i prefer the windows 10 version, just quicker and simpler for basic functions, but the version that comes with 365 will be fine once they retire it.
Splitting features across two versions of OneNote is bit frustrating. Hopefully they will have One OneNote that has all the features soon. Maybe it could be called TwoNote 😊
They really need to consolidate. The split was awful and it's a damn shame because OneNote is a package with no real direct peer. Ditching UWP and continuing from 2016 is the right move for the future, imho. Hopefully they get back to actully improvng it once they get past this 6 year long clusterduck.
Yes, this is the killer feature for me. I actually bought an iPad Pro and Apple Pencil purely on the strength of its OneNote support. (i.e. I spent over £1k to be able to scribble on my OneNote docs! I use it for other things too of course... but mainly OneNote.)
Agreed! She does a much clearer, detailed, richer explanation that makes the software easier and more enjoyable to use. Plus features we never knew about or maybe just found confusing to use. I’ve been using Microsoft since Windows 3.0 and Microsoft’s “improvements” often aren’t.
I agree sometimes their improvements go backwards like dictation on Word prior to this most recent update which is fantastic the one before had a timer that the user couldn’t change so it would turn itself off mid sentence. Very annoying if you were dictating away and hadn’t noticed that it had turned off. Plus it didn’t hear your words correctly and would contract words like social to soc. Very annoying. Anyway I complained every time I used it, but they seemed to have listened because now I can find no fault. It’s perfect, until the next update!
Many years ago, I read a review article that described OneNote as " ... if you like 3-ring binders, you will love OneNote ...". I switched and never looked back ... I use it daily. A terrific program ... many excellent features, but I am particularly fond of 'tags', 'links', and the 'search'. Thank you for the clarification ... very helpful ... and reassuring.
I love OneNote. Not too many people know about it. I show my coworkers how easy it is to keep a daily log and organize data. I find it to be the most useful tool. I've even used it to write operation and service manuals. I was upset when the so-called new version rolled back features. I wish Microsoft improved Table formatting and add more function.
You scared me with the title there. I hope they improve syncing in the OneNote, that's three only downside. Also, OneNote for W10 saved its notebooks in html format making it easy to open in browser. I hope they maintain this option.
That got my attention too. I was like nooooo. Leila that title scared me... 😱😱😱 I have so much info saved. Being able to take notes in all three platforms: windows, iOS and droid - A godsend. But all in all good info.
Thanks for this great content, Leila! I found my OneNote (2016) and my old .One file which Microsoft reported was in 2007 format. I just upgraded it to 2010 format. But all of the old notes are still there. Glad that Microsoft will keep supporting this in one way or another.
My experience is exactly like you said. I was super confused as to which one to use a few years ago. The desktop one had insane functionality compared to Windows 10 that allowed me to really control how everything looked in my notes (even as far as page size), but they seemed to only push and update the Windows 10 one, so I went with that one. I’m glad to have found out from you that I should migrate back to the other version. I thought the new Journal app was the only thing left for a moment 😭 (also a good app, but *very* limited). Thanks for this!!
I've been a OneNote for Windows 10 user for a couple of years now as a college student. I didn't even know of the original OneNote 2016 version because the UWP was already installed on my laptop. I have to say, it has everything I've needed for notetaking and sharing. I have never struggled with the app and will continue to use it until I graduate in 2023. I will say, I mostly use it for the inking feature as I use an iPad and 2in1 laptop to write my notes.
Now that explains my confusion when I was still using Windows 10. 😆 I hated the Windows 10 version I just switched to using Outlook for taking notes (saved as drafts). 😅 I should probably start using it again now that I see the app installed on my PC is the 2016 version. Thank you, Leila! 😃
LOVED the Passport renewal analogy!! That was precisely why I chose NOT to use OneNote during Graduate school and stuck with Evernote. This was a great overview of the history and breakdowns of the feature changes. I only recently gave One Note a second chance, and I am eager to see how it changes moving forward. Definitely wish they integrated a Code block option like Evernote's though. Well done, Leila!
Great explanation. Clear, thorough and easily understood. I use all versions including inking on my Surface, iPhone, iPad. Each has its strengths. Synching is awesome. Be great to have the best of all versions across platforms. Thank you for this update!
Excellent! I have never liked One Note for Windows 10 even though it’s installed on my computers. I continue to use the 2016 version and I’m delighted that it will become once again the primary version. Thank you for that information.
I was in love with Onenote. But they had limited subfolders. In Notion you have unlimited sub folder option. It Keeps everything more organized. Once I transitioned to Notion, I never miss onenote. In fact, I can't be anymore happier.
Seriously! I spent way too much time trying to make heads or tails out of their explanation, until I gave up in despair. Thanks to Leila for clearing it all up!
This reminds me to look for an open source alternative to one note. I switched from evernote in 2015 or so, and have used the app less over time. I really just need to know that it won't radically change as time goes on, so I can remain confident in the integrity of my notes.
I remember the confusion you were talking about with OneNote undergoing some weird changes. This was the moment I switched Windows for a MacBook. Then I started taking notes in Apple’s native app, Notes. Then after some time I had to go back to Windows due to work specificity. Now I use Google Keep as a go-between the two system. The problem with linking your apps to a system you are currently using is their utmost incompatibility with “alien/competitive” systems.
Yeah. Their practice of making the 'ecosystem' hermetic is the only way they can hold users for longer given every fucking product of theirs has an incomparably better, free alternative. One is generally better staying off any microsoft product loop with how fucking undesigned, unoriginal and lacking of reliability they are.
Yeah the features in OneNote 2016 like task sharing and use of tags are more important to me than the inking or text to speech functions for the Win10 version. I am glad that MS listened to feedback for a change. IT seems like it was a internal power struggle between the Windows group and the Office group at MS. Thanks for the overview Leila.
I hope that there will come out an open source alternative to OneNote, that still connects to Microsoft APIs, so that we get to keep our old notebooks. If it comes out for Linux, it will be relatively easy, to use it with WSL, so the Windows users will have seemless integration.
Thanks a lot for this wonderful overview. To me, OneNote is one of the best and useful programs out there and it would be hard for me to live and work without it. I am glad to hear that it will be continued.
I was literally in the process of creating a note taking app for my personal use when I came across one note. I was blown away with how similar the interface and the implementation of the note taking was. It was (I sh*t you not) almost identical with what I was creating even down to the way the notes and pages are layed out. The syncing feature I can not compete with though. I wish it was more developer friendly and would allow custom html/js coding in pages. Also I wish it could highlight code and put them in blocks. It'd be perfect for me then. I still use it begrudgingly because I know I can't compete. But there's much room for improvement when it comes to app developers.
I absolutely love the navigation, simplicity and speed of the modern app. Teach with it all the time, and love it. Amazing for inking. The 2016 app has the top tabs and side pages...so clunky. Class notebook features are built in to the modern app. For 2016 it's a plugin. So, if the navigation is matching and the features match, great. If not...no thanks.
Thought perhaps I'm wrong. So I tried it out. Horrible. No - repeat - no Class Notebook toolbar available by default. I have to go to a MS download site and manually install. At school, my IT admin have to manually deploy the toolbar with an msi across the network and, when they do an update to the plugin, they have to remove it and deploy a new one. No auto-update. In a class notebook, each student has a Section group. So because it's horizontal across the top, you get about 8 students of your 32 showing, with the other students in a separate extension panel. When you click on a student, the whole section structure horizontally switches to their sections. You then have to back out of that to see the other students. This is not progress. Try doing that using touch! I use my Surface as a tablet all the time, with inking. This app needs extremely hard work before it's ready to replace the modern app.
Depends what you're using it for. As a single user, both are alternatives and the older app on Office is more feature-rich, historically. But if you're using it in a school for example like I am, the Win10 app is self contained with the tools teachers use to deploy and mark work with students. The full app requires a separate install of a plug-in which has to be network installed by IT admin each time it's updated. A pain. Plus, the in-notebook navigation in class notebooks is still in the full version and nice in the app.
@@NorthTonawanda1 I use a Surface Pro 6, which is really good. With OneNote students and colleagues also use iPad and other tablets, which are just as good. If you have good eyes and lower budget, the Surface Go with smaller screens are good value.
After bouncing around a few different notes apps I settled on OneNote. There didn't seem to be a perfect note-taking app, but OneNote came the closest for me. Then all this confusion about versions came about and made things somewhat difficult for me, so I've recently switched to Obsidian... and I think I may have discovered the perfect app at last.
I love onenote and use it every day. However I prefer the "old" onenote that has the tabs across the top. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be that version for Mac. Office 365 includes the windows 10 style of onenote and I haven't been able to find a version that has the old tab interface.
Leila Gharani is by far one oof the BEST experts/teachers/tutors on TH-cam - her tone, cadence, and overall delivery is incredible - I've been a fan for years!
I did not change from OneNote2016 to OneNote for Windows 10. So this is a good message - Thank you! My main reason was an AddOn (Onetastic Pro) which I found very useful
I LOVE OneNote! I put everything in there! For work and uni! Is just a blessing! I used to use Excel back in the day and my pages were the tabs! When I discovered ON I was immediately sold!! Is amazing.
You are always so helpful. I love one note, but I must confess, forget to use it quite often, I M using it more all the time though, so I am glad its not going away
I love OneNote and am a mac/android user. Very sad they suggested stopping supporting it. Great to see your video. Will watch it with interest. Thank you.
This is why I switched to obsidian that uses markdown. Microsoft always switches programmes like msn, Skype etc. I don’t have time to be reliant on this mega corps
A good portion of my undergrad notes are in OneNote... I went to college for 12 years. I saw the UWP version as a butchering of the app, and I knew they were going to phase out support of the desktop x86 version the minute it came out. And I also figured it would fail because all of UWP will fail. It's not universal, because tablet and phone Windows is a failure.
Right there with you.....a BUTCHERING of the App. Anyone knowing what it was before can't possibly prefer the Windows 10 version. It was painful to use. Its been my GO TO app since 2008 when I did post grad studies and my entire life is in it since. I just refreshed my subscription so lemme go see what the fuss is all about.
I used OneNote on an Atom netbook, Windows 7 (obvi x86) I still have my undergrad notes. Isn't it all on the cloud now? I know that's where I keep my work related notes. Who the fk cares what platform it's on TBH?
I’m mildly confused. I thought Office was something you had to rent on a yearly basis now instead of owning. (Which is why I expect Office to superseded by other software.)
Until I watched this video, I had no idea there were different versions. I have been using OneNote for Windows 10 thinking this was the only version. I use OneNote extensively. I am a language and history student. I find it so useful to compile notes and refer to them. Imagine my surprise when I looked this morning and found I have the 2016 version on my PC as well. I opened it and, lo and behold, there were all features that I used to use that you referred to in this video! I shall now go back to using the 2016 version. Thinking about it, is it the case that OneNote 2016 got installed with Office 365? Anyway I am very grateful as this makes my use of OneNote even better, Just like the old days......... Well, it has to be for me cos I am stuck on Windows 10.
Two other options for note taking, task and knowledge management are Obsidian and Logseq. Both are developed using Electron just like Microsoft Teams. So, they are available on most platforms.
I was working for Microsoft when they announced that OneNote for Win 10 would be the default, and man everyone was disappointed. I was really hoping that ON for Win 10 would fail, because ON 2016 was already established and it was already the perfect platform to build on. Boy, I am happy how things turned out.
I think Win 10 is a fail. MS wants to take control of everything. I don't want all the junk apps that comes along with it and I don't know Linux. I don't want to save all my work to a "cloud" If I want you to have my data, I'll give it to you. If I want an app, I'll download and install it. My PC doesn't have the capability to run Win 11. I'm hoping all those darn updates will quit for Win 10 since they now have Win11 to play with. I've never used OneNote. I am a network of one, my PC. my printer and my Smart (er than me) TV.
@@MihaiKrieger What do you mean local accounts? I use Win 10 as my OS. What other choice do I have? Back in the 80's we used DOS, I had two floppy drives. One with DOS and application data (ROM and very little RAM) Another floppy to store data. Then Microsoft I guess was bloating things even then because eventually one floppy wouldn't hold DOS and App so it would prompt me to insert disc one, insert disc two. Then the mother of all inventions: The MOTHERBOARD!!! RAM prices soared because of no inventory. I remember a PO for about $10,000 for RAM for our newly bought $3,000 computers with learning about chips and RAM and ROM SDRAM, static boards. Our DP dept knew less than I. When I requested their assistance with all this new technology they sent down a guy who had never seen one and stared at the manual, reading with lips every word. He might have known Fortran. They had the big old mainframe computers analyzing numbers. I got two of the original Macintosh's and learned about GIF.. My first modem looked like this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem#/media/File:Analogue_modem_-_acoustic_coupler.jpg
@@MihaiKrieger Absolutely nothing. I was reminiscing the old days. I remember what I paid for RAM 30 years ago, but forget why I'm standing in the middle of my kitchen thinking "Why did I come in here?" Enjoy
Leila i never expected a click bait title or cover from you, you have always been straight to the point, I’m sorry though this video was somewhat informational., was leaning towards click bait! Your loyal follower, I love your videos and even paid to take couple of your courses
Thank you so much for explaining the labeling of OneNote versions and which one is going to persist! I rely on One Note for business and personal notes.
I didn't know about the functionalities of the original OneNote and just realized that it's all I ever wanted. I alsways complained that OneNote for W10 is so limited in exporting options. I hope the export to PDF Option is also way better, allowing for custom formats, that will always fit everything on one virtual page.
I use the latest version at work - very happy as I have a place to keep my notes and it's a great reference, I've been following your page to get new tips and usage. so Thanks.
I’ve learned over the last couple of decades to NEVER jump on Microsoft’s next great plan. They almost invariably lack features that were in the older versions or are more of a “we hope it goes our way” philosophy which is bad for longevity. There have a been a long line of questionable decisions made, I have to assume, by people who don’t actually USE the products. The one saving grace is that they’re willing to backtrack when it becomes obvious that it’s not going to work, unlike some other companies!
"decisions by people who don’t actually USE the products" - that is _always_ a bad argument. How _one_ person uses a product MUST NOT shape development for ALL. Instead, any large company has tons of user data; they know how people use it. M$ strategy here is though to, harder than many others, try to _shape_ (force) usage.
@@johanponken Either if you are worryingly unintelligent or deliberately obtuse.. It is obvious to the reader that they Don't use the product as a power user.
We have one guy at work that does EVERYTHING in OneNote. His OneNote size is over 200 gigs at this point, but thankfully Microsoft supports moving it to OneDrive.
Microsoft should also take the opportunity to improve the Android version as well, because it's the most neglected and left behind. Lately, looks like they delivered it to Samsung, because it's very similar to Samsung Notes now. I was avoiding to use it but I think I will check it out again, because I like Samsung Notes for my personal use.
Agreed they gave the Android app a UI refresh but didn't bother with adding some very basic functionality like page sort and section collapse. Sad they treat it like an unwanted step child
I use onenote on my samsung tab for uni and I really dislike how it's much more limited compared to the desktop app, like they added the bare minimum, if someone has a better app to recommend I'd be glad to check it out
Thanks alot for mentioning this up. I've been using One-Note for a while to write down on-the-road notes, to collect them on my PC and process them later. Aha, mine reads 'One Note For Windows-10'. This means it's time to move once again. This is not the first time Microsoft is letting us down. Now it's time to pull-down all my notes on a secure non-cloudy, crispy clear, local, blue sky media of my own.
im so glad i still have the 2016 version. My girlfriend has the onenote for windows10 and it was a nightmare for her. She lost all her notes one day randomly the day before an exam and the next day they came back. And she says she can't even do Ctrl+F to search for anything, which was one of the best things about OneNote that I use daily to find words in my saved long presentations and even in my written notes.
When they said one note was going away the first time I transferred every note to Word and just stopped using One Note all together 👎🏽. You and your vlog are👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
As a creative writer I've been using it since 2015 as a journal and for all my creative writing tasks. I love it. Its very easy to organize everything.
I've never been the biggest fan of the OneNote 2016 app - it always felt super cluttered and bloated. I suppose that the UWP version was missing features that some people would miss, but for me it had better performance, smoother animations, more consistency, and a far nicer design. I hope that Microsoft can bring the benefits of OneNote for Windows 10 back over to the 2016 version.
Yeah I was vwey disappointes by that move. OneNote UWP was already getting feature parity to OneNote 2016, all while not being feeling bloated and still snappy. Probably just another year or so if it was heavily focused to be further developed it might have be totally on par if not straight up better. I liked how OneNore UWP has integration to Windows Share, almost instantaneous launch without a cheat tricks to run in the background just to open quickly, nicer animations, touch native, and UI is far more adaptable. Shame the legacy one is the one will go forward together with its bloat, yeah they can make it pretty but I wonder if they can make it as fluid.
Hmm, not really. The OneNote 2016 is in many ways far better and has a far better performance than that sluggish UWP app. But, like Leila said, there were functions in OneNote 2016 that were not implemented in the UWP version and vice versa. Frustrating.
@@chriss2595 maybe in terms of raw performance the 2016 one was better, but because it supported smooth scrolling and because it had really well-designed animations, the UWP one always felt far more snappy to me.
@@miguelguthridge Which animations in the UWP app? Smooth scrolling - does anyone still use this nowadays? Imho, those 2 arguments are a bit poor. I just tested the UWP again and it's painfully slow, I just can't work in it. So, for me, it's the other way around: OneNote 2016 is fluid, the UWP not. The file formats between the UWP app and the OneNote 2016 are not compatible, a nightmare. OneNote 2016 is solid as a rock, we have hundreds of pages with a lot of screenshots, for manuals in our organization, it never slows down unlike Word. A note app must be fast, practical, versatile and solid. In all these years, I got 2 times a corrupted file, it was fixed easily - one can say it's 2 times too much. On the other hand, there are things to be improved, perhaps things that were implemented in the UWP and not in the 2016 version, or things like support for gif animations (interesting for manuals), a good support for printing (publishing lay-out is awful now), object related allignment like in PPT etc. Just practical things to work with, no more and no less. Let's hope they can make OneNote shine again, it's probably one of the best and easiest apps MS ever made.
I didn't use OneNote before OneNote for Windows 10 and all the times i had trouble sharing my Notebook was crazy. Amazing that OneNote can do it so easily! Very Informative thanks!
@6:25 OMG - I've been wanting Evernote to have such a feature to aggregate todos across notes *forever* - I'm not surprised someone on the Outlook team got smart! I'm really curious if you can scope down your task lists by filtering out specific notebooks/pages? (eg. show me all my tasks in my physics class notebook)
Awesome video! Thank you for the information. I'm a huge OneNote user and would hate to lose any of the information that I've compiled over the past 13 years.
If you’re ever worried about losing your data you could export all your notebooks as your preferred file type like PDF and back it up on a different cloud service like Google Drive, DropBox, whatever. I do this for each semester so I can start with a clean OneNote every semester but still have easy access to past semester’s notes if needed.
I appreciate your videos. I watch a lot of them. However MS is making this app an unbelievable cluster _ _ _ _ ! It's amazingly confusing as to which version etc. etc. I wish Circus Ponies came back with their "Notebook" app. It was Mac only, but could have been made for PC too. That was a great visual notebook app.
I'm Mac&Win user. Yes, there was a riot in my mind and I was tempted to stop using One Note. There was a time when reported a weird behaviour. But fortunely it seems to be fixed. It's the only note taking that goes smooth in the multiverse of M&W. I'm glad they're taking action! Thank you for your professional help!
I feel like this is early phases of preparing for Loop which if is as much of a notion clone as it looks like will be an amazing upgrade to OneNote functionality we've all been waiting for.
I by far prefer one-time licenses. There is one feature of Word that is available only for the subscription version that I would find useful but only makes sense for the subscription. It's the ability to transcribe audio files to text. This requires some pretty good hardware, so Word uploads the audio file to some Microsoft computer. That costs money, so I understand why it's not available for one-time licenses. It's also very good, I found less than 20 errors in two files of about 30 minutes each. There were some formatting issues and a few times when the specific speaker was listed wrong but I don't count those because my specific use required a non-standard format and I would have had to change it anyway. So I definitely recommend the transcription function. I had to use a family member's subscription to access it, and if I needed it on a regular basis I'd probably get a subscription because of it.
Thanks! I never ended up using onenote because I would open any of them randomly and type things, then never find what I had done again - watching your video I understand why. Confusing is an understatement!
Question: Will this also be available for mac? I feel that the macOS applications sometimes lack functions that the windows versions have (but I love my mac :( )
I have OneNote on my Mac and even though it just says "OneNote" in the title, I'm pretty sure its OneNote Windows 10 because of the missing features. It feels very stripped down compared to the one I have on my PC. The ability to interact and move notes between notebooks is much more fluid with the PC OneNote (formerly 2016) version. But I can still use all the ink features on my iPad so I'm happy for now. Hopefully they'll upgrade the Mac version.
Mac line will never have feature parity. MS not only had years but they removed features on the newer version of Outlook. Onenote for Mac feels so out of touch compared to the rest of the Office apps.
Mine still says onenote 2016 and im so glad to hear it isn't going anywhere. I struggle so much with remembering the details of stuff that I use onenote to make checklists, keep notes, use colors, arrows, and other color options to help me pay attention and remember how to do stuff. I love the searchability of onenote. Id be lost without this software honestly, so I hope it never goes away.
The main problem with one note for window 10 are the lack of fundamental functionality such as: endless page export, custom size export or custom page size and format. They are fundamental couse it's nearly imposible to export to pdf with a nice formatting.
Nice to hear they're pushing Windows 10 features as it is better for ink options, but the structure of 2016 (as you highlighted well) is far superior in structure
Thank for that great video. OneNote is my every day app that is so versatile as a Wiki inside a Team, Storing Ideas, Drawing on my iPad, Taking Meeting Notes. It is the most underrated app in the MS universe. I don’t understand why MS is not closing the wiki gap with an enterprise version with a better permission system and dynamic components that can syndicate and update content. I know that they push loop at the moment, but the concept behind it is so far from the real world.
This explains what happened to me when I bought this desktop in (I think) 2020. I had been using OneNote 2016, but when I tried to pull up my writing notebook in OneNote for Windows 10 (thinking I should because it was "the newer version"), it erased all but two pages of the notebook! I was devastated because I'd set up that notebook years before and had a ton of notes I'd collected for my novel series. Also, I'd just bought a new Amazon Fire tablet around the same time, and I was looking forward to accessing my notes from both. However, when the notebook was erased, I could only bring up the two pages that were left behind. I cried for days! It took me two years to be able to trust OneNote again for my story notes. The only reason I came back was I couldn't find a substitute that was free that could hold all the information I need to store. I just needed the time to come to terms with losing the original notebook and be okay with setting up a new one. I'm glad I came back to the right version! I'm totally fine with losing the Win10 version. I never used the other features in that one anyway, so I won't miss them. Thank you for this update!
I been using onenote since office 2016 and is one of my daily apps, all my personal and business tasks are there, I try onenote win 10 but as you said lacks of many features but has it's perks, I was frustrated that were not combined in to one, now you have bring me hope, to bad I still have the 2016 version that only shows onenote, I'm looking forward to get the update, I love how you explained many functions and how to use all this software better every day, coming from a non native english speaker. thank you!
Onenote 2016 : for desk top pc, keyboard data Onenote window 10: for digitizer pc, digitizer data I use onenote versions like this it's really good news for hearing two versions emerging, but i'm afraid this massive change can delete some of my prefer function in onenote 10 or 2016 Such as digital ruler, better ink mode in 10 and mouse middle button scroll in 2016
Thank you because I really was confused as to why I had 2 versions of Onenote on my PC. I've only ever used the 2016 version so I'm glad it's not going away
my first experience with One Note was the Windows 10 version. I liked it but something just felt missing from it. I want to give the new/old one a try to see if I find it more useful.
Onenote is the killer app for note taking. I'm a lawyer and I also lecture and participate in higher education training sessions. I use it for both my professional note taking in trials, lectures, personal projects (I publish several articles) and personal notes. Nothing comes even near it.
I finally switched from OneNote to Notion. I was having syncing problems with OneNote for sometime but it was manageable and I usually reluctant to try new stuff. But then it stopped syncing on my Samsung altogether for days last month. That was the final push for me to move on to Notion. I love it now. OneNote on Samsung and Win 11 lacked feature compared to the desktop version and I do not have a tablet so handwriting or scribbling on OneNote was of no use. Lots of features and customization on Notion on the other hand. A little overwhelming coming from the simpler OneNote. But I am slowly learning Notion features and they are far superior.
Thank you, for the clarification. I was an early, eager adopter of OneNote. Later when Microsoft started changing direction with the OneNote for Windows 10 and it lost functionality, I lost interest. I am now picking it up again where I left it - and it is helpful to understand the bigger picture. I was somewhat surprised when I saw Mike Tholfsen recently explaining about new features coming to the Desktop version - which was supposed to be phased out. Now I understand what is happening.
Leila, thank you for the clear explanation! I want to start using OneNote on my work laptop and have all three version. Now, I know which version to use. Also, my recurring request for you to make ASMR content, I love your voice.
.Actually I started using One Note with the Windows 10 version and I was missing already all the sharing options... I will download the new One Note asap!Thanks for the video, it was really helpful!!
I left OneNote years ago when I lost my password and painfully discovered there was no way to recover or reset it. I’m now a happy satisfied Evernote user.
Man this is another example of the incredibly patient mainstream computer users. There are tons of superior apps, software manufacturers and even operating systems one could use for personal and business benefit but then "you know, I'll simply stick to Microsoft cuz I've always done that". Good luck with every zigzags in the future. At least, your video sums all the confusion up in an understandable way. Cheers.
I teach OneNote extensively and one of the features that's been around forever that i don't think any other note-taking app can do is *perform speech to text processing on audio in either sound files or video files* so that you can do a search on those keywords. *AMAZING!* It doesn't give you a transcript as this process is only done in the background, but wouldn't that be an awesome upgrade?!?! It does require that you 'teach' the speech recognition app how to recognize your speech but that's a one-time only setup and really easy. OneNote is THE best all around application for anything digital. It also offers browser extensions and plug-ins to capture content while you're in a browser.
I just started using it for school as it seems to be more useful because I can easily switch between documents without opening them from the explorer and also it is a lot easier to send them to my smartphone
Thanks for the clarification. This was indeed very confusing, but you made that very clear. I am wondering what will happen with the mobile version on iOS.
I don't quite follow all the instructions she gives in her videos - I just love seeing her and her superb voice. Weird, well yes, maybe. But, man, she is gorgeous!
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@leila Why isn’t OneNote sync’ing with Outlook on IOS? I am heavily reliant on onenote to work through my emails and other MS Office docs, and I can no longer use ONeNote on the go from my iphone or Ipad
I feel Onenote is one of the most under used Microsoft apps. I've used it for years and definitely a big part of my life both personal and business.
Have you ever lost any data with it?
@@thathappyrat I have also used it for years and never experienced losing data. But since the notes are stored in my OneDrive, it might be possible to lose them if they get deleted for some reason.
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@@thathappyrat Yes a small part of my data, but that's only because I went through the trouble of manually copy-pasting data from my computer's one note and into the note in my cloud, since the one there only has page titles without the content, and manually write add to it the data from my one note on my phone, since the thing stopped to sync. If not for that, I would have lost every thing when I upgraded to a new computer. It was such a pain that I stopped to use it.
onenote is the best, been using it for years. use it pretty much every day, though i hardly touch any of its features. just a great way to keep information available between pc and phone so no matter where you are you have access. personally i prefer the windows 10 version, just quicker and simpler for basic functions, but the version that comes with 365 will be fine once they retire it.
My computer has both versions and I have been SO confused about that 😅
Thanks for clearing things up! Glad to hear we're not loosing OneNote.
Yes, me too! I tried reading what I could find about it on the MSFT site and elsewhere, but it only confused me more. Thank you for clearing it up!
We should ditch it tho. Getting handcuffed in microsoft product environment is worse than selling ur company soul to SAP.
Or loosing Spellcheck
Splitting features across two versions of OneNote is bit frustrating. Hopefully they will have One OneNote that has all the features soon. Maybe it could be called TwoNote 😊
Well the binary firm of 2 is 10, so we could call it 10Note. That wouldn't be confusing at all. :D
@@kd7ile 😂
They really need to consolidate. The split was awful and it's a damn shame because OneNote is a package with no real direct peer. Ditching UWP and continuing from 2016 is the right move for the future, imho. Hopefully they get back to actully improvng it once they get past this 6 year long clusterduck.
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The fact that OneNote syncs nicely between windows, and the iPad is a really great functionality
Exactly
Yes, this is the killer feature for me. I actually bought an iPad Pro and Apple Pencil purely on the strength of its OneNote support. (i.e. I spent over £1k to be able to scribble on my OneNote docs! I use it for other things too of course... but mainly OneNote.)
Excellent overview of the OneNote’s transition and what the future holds. Microsoft should ask you to be their lead ambassador.
Agreed! She does a much clearer, detailed, richer explanation that makes the software easier and more enjoyable to use. Plus features we never knew about or maybe just found confusing to use. I’ve been using Microsoft since Windows 3.0 and Microsoft’s “improvements” often aren’t.
Yup. I agree. Mrs Ambassador MVP.
Would like this multiple times if I could.
I agree sometimes their improvements go backwards like dictation on Word prior to this most recent update which is fantastic the one before had a timer that the user couldn’t change so it would turn itself off mid sentence. Very annoying if you were dictating away and hadn’t noticed that it had turned off. Plus it didn’t hear your words correctly and would contract words like social to soc. Very annoying. Anyway I complained every time I used it, but they seemed to have listened because now I can find no fault. It’s perfect, until the next update!
Many years ago, I read a review article that described OneNote as " ... if you like 3-ring binders, you will love OneNote ...". I switched and never looked back ... I use it daily. A terrific program ... many excellent features, but I am particularly fond of 'tags', 'links', and the 'search'.
Thank you for the clarification ... very helpful ... and reassuring.
Click bait video title needs a trigger warning. I love my digital 3 ring binder 😤
I am super 2016 user ...
I love OneNote. Not too many people know about it. I show my coworkers how easy it is to keep a daily log and organize data. I find it to be the most useful tool. I've even used it to write operation and service manuals. I was upset when the so-called new version rolled back features. I wish Microsoft improved Table formatting and add more function.
Biggest gripe, not a lot of table functionality!
Onenote or evernote which one is better
@@surfnyolly year later btw and they still cannot make native tables work properly in Teams (despite them being THE SAME THING). Mental
@@akshitasharma9590 evernote, no comparison even. You're in general better off trying not to use any microsoft stuff. It's gonna bite ur ass one day.
You scared me with the title there. I hope they improve syncing in the OneNote, that's three only downside. Also, OneNote for W10 saved its notebooks in html format making it easy to open in browser. I hope they maintain this option.
Felt the same. Leila scared me at the beginning 😅
That got my attention too. I was like nooooo. Leila that title scared me... 😱😱😱
I have so much info saved. Being able to take notes in all three platforms: windows, iOS and droid - A godsend.
But all in all good info.
Yes you are true
Quelle bonne nouvelle! J’ai toujours préféré OneNote 2016.
That is why they call it click bait
Thanks for this great content, Leila! I found my OneNote (2016) and my old .One file which Microsoft reported was in 2007 format. I just upgraded it to 2010 format. But all of the old notes are still there. Glad that Microsoft will keep supporting this in one way or another.
Thanks for watching, Bill!
My experience is exactly like you said. I was super confused as to which one to use a few years ago. The desktop one had insane functionality compared to Windows 10 that allowed me to really control how everything looked in my notes (even as far as page size), but they seemed to only push and update the Windows 10 one, so I went with that one. I’m glad to have found out from you that I should migrate back to the other version. I thought the new Journal app was the only thing left for a moment 😭 (also a good app, but *very* limited). Thanks for this!!
I've been a OneNote for Windows 10 user for a couple of years now as a college student. I didn't even know of the original OneNote 2016 version because the UWP was already installed on my laptop. I have to say, it has everything I've needed for notetaking and sharing. I have never struggled with the app and will continue to use it until I graduate in 2023. I will say, I mostly use it for the inking feature as I use an iPad and 2in1 laptop to write my notes.
Now that explains my confusion when I was still using Windows 10. 😆 I hated the Windows 10 version I just switched to using Outlook for taking notes (saved as drafts). 😅 I should probably start using it again now that I see the app installed on my PC is the 2016 version. Thank you, Leila! 😃
LOVED the Passport renewal analogy!! That was precisely why I chose NOT to use OneNote during Graduate school and stuck with Evernote. This was a great overview of the history and breakdowns of the feature changes. I only recently gave One Note a second chance, and I am eager to see how it changes moving forward. Definitely wish they integrated a Code block option like Evernote's though. Well done, Leila!
Thanks, David!
I'm using Onenote since the early 00years and I'm happy that it will continue. Can't live without it.
Great explanation. Clear, thorough and easily understood. I use all versions including inking on my Surface, iPhone, iPad. Each has its strengths. Synching is awesome. Be great to have the best of all versions across platforms. Thank you for this update!
OneNote 2016 was always superior with support for extensions. I’ve never like the mobile versions though.
I never liked the Win10 version - the 2016 version so much more useful... I just need to use it more regularly 🙂
Same. I abhor modern MS UX wasting so much screen real estate. 2016 or bust for me.
Excellent! I have never liked One Note for Windows 10 even though it’s installed on my computers. I continue to use the 2016 version and I’m delighted that it will become once again the primary version. Thank you for that information.
I was in love with Onenote. But they had limited subfolders. In Notion you have unlimited sub folder option. It Keeps everything more organized.
Once I transitioned to Notion, I never miss onenote. In fact, I can't be anymore happier.
I'm not sure why MS can't offer such a helpful explanation but I am very glad you did. Thanks.
Seriously! I spent way too much time trying to make heads or tails out of their explanation, until I gave up in despair. Thanks to Leila for clearing it all up!
This reminds me to look for an open source alternative to one note. I switched from evernote in 2015 or so, and have used the app less over time. I really just need to know that it won't radically change as time goes on, so I can remain confident in the integrity of my notes.
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Obsidian. Everyone I've talked to who uses it loves it.
@@football42241 does it support handwriting? I love writing my notes instead of typing.
I remember the confusion you were talking about with OneNote undergoing some weird changes. This was the moment I switched Windows for a MacBook. Then I started taking notes in Apple’s native app, Notes. Then after some time I had to go back to Windows due to work specificity. Now I use Google Keep as a go-between the two system. The problem with linking your apps to a system you are currently using is their utmost incompatibility with “alien/competitive” systems.
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Yeah. Their practice of making the 'ecosystem' hermetic is the only way they can hold users for longer given every fucking product of theirs has an incomparably better, free alternative.
One is generally better staying off any microsoft product loop with how fucking undesigned, unoriginal and lacking of reliability they are.
Yeah the features in OneNote 2016 like task sharing and use of tags are more important to me than the inking or text to speech functions for the Win10 version. I am glad that MS listened to feedback for a change. IT seems like it was a internal power struggle between the Windows group and the Office group at MS. Thanks for the overview Leila.
I hope that there will come out an open source alternative to OneNote, that still connects to Microsoft APIs, so that we get to keep our old notebooks. If it comes out for Linux, it will be relatively easy, to use it with WSL, so the Windows users will have seemless integration.
Thanks a lot for this wonderful overview. To me, OneNote is one of the best and useful programs out there and it would be hard for me to live and work without it. I am glad to hear that it will be continued.
I was literally in the process of creating a note taking app for my personal use when I came across one note. I was blown away with how similar the interface and the implementation of the note taking was. It was (I sh*t you not) almost identical with what I was creating even down to the way the notes and pages are layed out. The syncing feature I can not compete with though. I wish it was more developer friendly and would allow custom html/js coding in pages. Also I wish it could highlight code and put them in blocks. It'd be perfect for me then. I still use it begrudgingly because I know I can't compete. But there's much room for improvement when it comes to app developers.
Interesting :)
For note taking in code formatting, have a look at the addin notehighlight.
@@svgoooo Oh wow dude. Thanks, very much appreciated.
Have you tried Obsidian notes?
Thank you all, this helps
I absolutely love the navigation, simplicity and speed of the modern app. Teach with it all the time, and love it. Amazing for inking. The 2016 app has the top tabs and side pages...so clunky. Class notebook features are built in to the modern app. For 2016 it's a plugin. So, if the navigation is matching and the features match, great. If not...no thanks.
Thought perhaps I'm wrong. So I tried it out. Horrible. No - repeat - no Class Notebook toolbar available by default. I have to go to a MS download site and manually install. At school, my IT admin have to manually deploy the toolbar with an msi across the network and, when they do an update to the plugin, they have to remove it and deploy a new one. No auto-update.
In a class notebook, each student has a Section group. So because it's horizontal across the top, you get about 8 students of your 32 showing, with the other students in a separate extension panel. When you click on a student, the whole section structure horizontally switches to their sections. You then have to back out of that to see the other students.
This is not progress. Try doing that using touch! I use my Surface as a tablet all the time, with inking. This app needs extremely hard work before it's ready to replace the modern app.
Depends what you're using it for. As a single user, both are alternatives and the older app on Office is more feature-rich, historically. But if you're using it in a school for example like I am, the Win10 app is self contained with the tools teachers use to deploy and mark work with students. The full app requires a separate install of a plug-in which has to be network installed by IT admin each time it's updated. A pain. Plus, the in-notebook navigation in class notebooks is still in the full version and nice in the app.
@@NorthTonawanda1 I use a Surface Pro 6, which is really good. With OneNote students and colleagues also use iPad and other tablets, which are just as good. If you have good eyes and lower budget, the Surface Go with smaller screens are good value.
After bouncing around a few different notes apps I settled on OneNote. There didn't seem to be a perfect note-taking app, but OneNote came the closest for me. Then all this confusion about versions came about and made things somewhat difficult for me, so I've recently switched to Obsidian... and I think I may have discovered the perfect app at last.
I love onenote and use it every day. However I prefer the "old" onenote that has the tabs across the top. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be that version for Mac. Office 365 includes the windows 10 style of onenote and I haven't been able to find a version that has the old tab interface.
Leila Gharani is by far one oof the BEST experts/teachers/tutors on TH-cam - her tone, cadence, and overall delivery is incredible - I've been a fan for years!
I did not change from OneNote2016 to OneNote for Windows 10. So this is a good message - Thank you!
My main reason was an AddOn (Onetastic Pro) which I found very useful
I LOVE OneNote! I put everything in there! For work and uni! Is just a blessing! I used to use Excel back in the day and my pages were the tabs! When I discovered ON I was immediately sold!! Is amazing.
You are always so helpful. I love one note, but I must confess, forget to use it quite often, I M using it more all the time though, so I am glad its not going away
I love OneNote and am a mac/android user. Very sad they suggested stopping supporting it. Great to see your video. Will watch it with interest. Thank you.
This is why I switched to obsidian that uses markdown. Microsoft always switches programmes like msn, Skype etc. I don’t have time to be reliant on this mega corps
markdown is the way to go
They don't switch. They always remain same. MSN still remains Skype still remains, So OneNote does as well. There are 1 app instead of 2 that is it
For me Microsoft is never going away
Hail Obsidian, very happy to find an Obsidian user here 😅😁✌️
And you can right with markdown and easy link with double brackets. Two thinks ON is still a dinosaur
A good portion of my undergrad notes are in OneNote... I went to college for 12 years. I saw the UWP version as a butchering of the app, and I knew they were going to phase out support of the desktop x86 version the minute it came out. And I also figured it would fail because all of UWP will fail. It's not universal, because tablet and phone Windows is a failure.
Right there with you.....a BUTCHERING of the App. Anyone knowing what it was before can't possibly prefer the Windows 10 version. It was painful to use. Its been my GO TO app since 2008 when I did post grad studies and my entire life is in it since. I just refreshed my subscription so lemme go see what the fuss is all about.
I used OneNote on an Atom netbook, Windows 7 (obvi x86) I still have my undergrad notes.
Isn't it all on the cloud now? I know that's where I keep my work related notes.
Who the fk cares what platform it's on TBH?
It’s not going anywhere. It remains a part of Microsoft Office. I get updates to it all the time. I’m in the office insider’s program.
I’m mildly confused. I thought Office was something you had to rent on a yearly basis now instead of owning. (Which is why I expect Office to superseded by other software.)
Until I watched this video, I had no idea there were different versions. I have been using OneNote for Windows 10 thinking this was the only version. I use OneNote extensively. I am a language and history student. I find it so useful to compile notes and refer to them. Imagine my surprise when I looked this morning and found I have the 2016 version on my PC as well. I opened it and, lo and behold, there were all features that I used to use that you referred to in this video! I shall now go back to using the 2016 version. Thinking about it, is it the case that OneNote 2016 got installed with Office 365? Anyway I am very grateful as this makes my use of OneNote even better, Just like the old days......... Well, it has to be for me cos I am stuck on Windows 10.
Yup, it would have... as OneNote was always part of the basic office Suites
Two other options for note taking, task and knowledge management are Obsidian and Logseq. Both are developed using Electron just like Microsoft Teams. So, they are available on most platforms.
Teams is atrociously bad though :). Not sure if it's the dev env or the feature creep. Maybe both.
I was working for Microsoft when they announced that OneNote for Win 10 would be the default, and man everyone was disappointed. I was really hoping that ON for Win 10 would fail, because ON 2016 was already established and it was already the perfect platform to build on. Boy, I am happy how things turned out.
I think Win 10 is a fail. MS wants to take control of everything. I don't want all the junk apps that comes along with it and I don't know Linux. I don't want to save all my work to a "cloud" If I want you to have my data, I'll give it to you. If I want an app, I'll download and install it. My PC doesn't have the capability to run Win 11. I'm hoping all those darn updates will quit for Win 10 since they now have Win11 to play with. I've never used OneNote. I am a network of one, my PC. my printer and my Smart (er than me) TV.
@@donnaarehartpiffier8800 windows 10 works with local accounts too.
@@MihaiKrieger What do you mean local accounts? I use Win 10 as my OS. What other choice do I have?
Back in the 80's we used DOS, I had two floppy drives. One with DOS and application data (ROM and very little RAM) Another floppy to store data. Then Microsoft I guess was bloating things even then because eventually one floppy wouldn't hold DOS and App so it would prompt me to insert disc one, insert disc two. Then the mother of all inventions: The MOTHERBOARD!!! RAM prices soared because of no inventory. I remember a PO for about $10,000 for RAM for our newly bought $3,000 computers with learning about chips and RAM and ROM SDRAM, static boards. Our DP dept knew less than I. When I requested their assistance with all this new technology they sent down a guy who had never seen one and stared at the manual, reading with lips every word. He might have known Fortran. They had the big old mainframe computers analyzing numbers. I got two of the original Macintosh's and learned about GIF.. My first modem looked like this.
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@@donnaarehartpiffier8800 nice story but what does this have to do with OneNote though? 🤔
@@MihaiKrieger Absolutely nothing. I was reminiscing the old days. I remember what I paid for RAM 30 years ago, but forget why I'm standing in the middle of my kitchen thinking "Why did I come in here?" Enjoy
Leila i never expected a click bait title or cover from you, you have always been straight to the point, I’m sorry though this video was somewhat informational., was leaning towards click bait!
Your loyal follower, I love your videos and even paid to take couple of your courses
OneNote is such a fantastic app and I’m happy to hear it’s living on and getting even better.
Me too! Using it every day.
@@LeilaGharani I just prefer the Navigation of WIN10 !
Thank you so much for explaining the labeling of OneNote versions and which one is going to persist!
I rely on One Note for business and personal notes.
I didn't know about the functionalities of the original OneNote and just realized that it's all I ever wanted. I alsways complained that OneNote for W10 is so limited in exporting options. I hope the export to PDF Option is also way better, allowing for custom formats, that will always fit everything on one virtual page.
I use the latest version at work - very happy as I have a place to keep my notes and it's a great reference, I've been following your page to get new tips and usage. so Thanks.
I’ve learned over the last couple of decades to NEVER jump on Microsoft’s next great plan. They almost invariably lack features that were in the older versions or are more of a “we hope it goes our way” philosophy which is bad for longevity. There have a been a long line of questionable decisions made, I have to assume, by people who don’t actually USE the products. The one saving grace is that they’re willing to backtrack when it becomes obvious that it’s not going to work, unlike some other companies!
"decisions by people who don’t actually USE the products" - that is _always_ a bad argument. How _one_ person uses a product MUST NOT shape development for ALL.
Instead, any large company has tons of user data; they know how people use it. M$ strategy here is though to, harder than many others, try to _shape_ (force) usage.
@@johanponken I think it's a valid argument. Bill Gates, after all, uses pen and paper. Nadella uses OneNote but on iPhone not desktop.
@@JBrierley02 You think. No argument for why though.
Google are just the same, you just get used to using their latest development project, and they pull the plug on it.
@@johanponken Either if you are worryingly unintelligent or deliberately obtuse..
It is obvious to the reader that they Don't use the product as a power user.
We have one guy at work that does EVERYTHING in OneNote. His OneNote size is over 200 gigs at this point, but thankfully Microsoft supports moving it to OneDrive.
Microsoft should also take the opportunity to improve the Android version as well, because it's the most neglected and left behind.
Lately, looks like they delivered it to Samsung, because it's very similar to Samsung Notes now. I was avoiding to use it but I think I will check it out again, because I like Samsung Notes for my personal use.
Agreed they gave the Android app a UI refresh but didn't bother with adding some very basic functionality like page sort and section collapse. Sad they treat it like an unwanted step child
@@mjnz Which is ironic because their partnership with Samsung was very smart and the only way they could compete with Google on the mobile space.
I use onenote on my samsung tab for uni and I really dislike how it's much more limited compared to the desktop app, like they added the bare minimum, if someone has a better app to recommend I'd be glad to check it out
@@caterinatarantino7050 I use Nebo on my iPad for handwritten notes that I can then transform into text that I can export to use with Word
I use Samsung notes for tracking ephemeral stuff. Like post It's on steroids. It's superb.
For serious note taking it has to be One Note for me.
Thanks alot for mentioning this up. I've been using One-Note for a while to write down on-the-road notes, to collect them on my PC and process them later. Aha, mine reads 'One Note For Windows-10'. This means it's time to move once again. This is not the first time Microsoft is letting us down. Now it's time to pull-down all my notes on a secure non-cloudy, crispy clear, local, blue sky media of my own.
Just wanted to express how helpful your videos are!! you are extrely good at explaining tNice tutorialngs in-depth but still at a basic level for
im so glad i still have the 2016 version. My girlfriend has the onenote for windows10 and it was a nightmare for her. She lost all her notes one day randomly the day before an exam and the next day they came back. And she says she can't even do Ctrl+F to search for anything, which was one of the best things about OneNote that I use daily to find words in my saved long presentations and even in my written notes.
When they said one note was going away the first time I transferred every note to Word and just stopped using One Note all together 👎🏽. You and your vlog are👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
As a creative writer I've been using it since 2015 as a journal and for all my creative writing tasks. I love it. Its very easy to organize everything.
I've never been the biggest fan of the OneNote 2016 app - it always felt super cluttered and bloated. I suppose that the UWP version was missing features that some people would miss, but for me it had better performance, smoother animations, more consistency, and a far nicer design. I hope that Microsoft can bring the benefits of OneNote for Windows 10 back over to the 2016 version.
Yeah I was vwey disappointes by that move. OneNote UWP was already getting feature parity to OneNote 2016, all while not being feeling bloated and still snappy. Probably just another year or so if it was heavily focused to be further developed it might have be totally on par if not straight up better.
I liked how OneNore UWP has integration to Windows Share, almost instantaneous launch without a cheat tricks to run in the background just to open quickly, nicer animations, touch native, and UI is far more adaptable. Shame the legacy one is the one will go forward together with its bloat, yeah they can make it pretty but I wonder if they can make it as fluid.
Hmm, not really. The OneNote 2016 is in many ways far better and has a far better performance than that sluggish UWP app. But, like Leila said, there were functions in OneNote 2016 that were not implemented in the UWP version and vice versa. Frustrating.
@@chriss2595 maybe in terms of raw performance the 2016 one was better, but because it supported smooth scrolling and because it had really well-designed animations, the UWP one always felt far more snappy to me.
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Which animations in the UWP app?
Smooth scrolling - does anyone still use this nowadays? Imho, those 2 arguments are a bit poor. I just tested the UWP again and it's painfully slow, I just can't work in it. So, for me, it's the other way around: OneNote 2016 is fluid, the UWP not.
The file formats between the UWP app and the OneNote 2016 are not compatible, a nightmare.
OneNote 2016 is solid as a rock, we have hundreds of pages with a lot of screenshots, for manuals in our organization, it never slows down unlike Word. A note app must be fast, practical, versatile and solid. In all these years, I got 2 times a corrupted file, it was fixed easily - one can say it's 2 times too much.
On the other hand, there are things to be improved, perhaps things that were implemented in the UWP and not in the 2016 version, or things like support for gif animations (interesting for manuals), a good support for printing (publishing lay-out is awful now), object related allignment like in PPT etc. Just practical things to work with, no more and no less.
Let's hope they can make OneNote shine again, it's probably one of the best and easiest apps MS ever made.
@@chriss2595 you sure you used the same app as me?
I didn't use OneNote before OneNote for Windows 10 and all the times i had trouble sharing my Notebook was crazy. Amazing that OneNote can do it so easily! Very Informative thanks!
@6:25 OMG - I've been wanting Evernote to have such a feature to aggregate todos across notes *forever* - I'm not surprised someone on the Outlook team got smart!
I'm really curious if you can scope down your task lists by filtering out specific notebooks/pages? (eg. show me all my tasks in my physics class notebook)
Awesome video! Thank you for the information. I'm a huge OneNote user and would hate to lose any of the information that I've compiled over the past 13 years.
If you’re ever worried about losing your data you could export all your notebooks as your preferred file type like PDF and back it up on a different cloud service like Google Drive, DropBox, whatever. I do this for each semester so I can start with a clean OneNote every semester but still have easy access to past semester’s notes if needed.
I appreciate your videos. I watch a lot of them. However MS is making this app an unbelievable cluster _ _ _ _ ! It's amazingly confusing as to which version etc. etc. I wish Circus Ponies came back with their "Notebook" app. It was Mac only, but could have been made for PC too. That was a great visual notebook app.
I'm Mac&Win user. Yes, there was a riot in my mind and I was tempted to stop using One Note. There was a time when reported a weird behaviour. But fortunely it seems to be fixed. It's the only note taking that goes smooth in the multiverse of M&W. I'm glad they're taking action! Thank you for your professional help!
Thanks for this video. This explains a lot. I love one note, it has completely replaced paper for me and has made me much more productive
Good that they are consolidating the versions.
I feel like this is early phases of preparing for Loop which if is as much of a notion clone as it looks like will be an amazing upgrade to OneNote functionality we've all been waiting for.
Finally a clear explanation as to what is going on with OneNote. Thanks!
I love Notion
I by far prefer one-time licenses. There is one feature of Word that is available only for the subscription version that I would find useful but only makes sense for the subscription. It's the ability to transcribe audio files to text. This requires some pretty good hardware, so Word uploads the audio file to some Microsoft computer. That costs money, so I understand why it's not available for one-time licenses. It's also very good, I found less than 20 errors in two files of about 30 minutes each. There were some formatting issues and a few times when the specific speaker was listed wrong but I don't count those because my specific use required a non-standard format and I would have had to change it anyway. So I definitely recommend the transcription function. I had to use a family member's subscription to access it, and if I needed it on a regular basis I'd probably get a subscription because of it.
Thanks! I never ended up using onenote because I would open any of them randomly and type things, then never find what I had done again - watching your video I understand why. Confusing is an understatement!
Question: Will this also be available for mac? I feel that the macOS applications sometimes lack functions that the windows versions have (but I love my mac :( )
I have OneNote on my Mac and even though it just says "OneNote" in the title, I'm pretty sure its OneNote Windows 10 because of the missing features. It feels very stripped down compared to the one I have on my PC. The ability to interact and move notes between notebooks is much more fluid with the PC OneNote (formerly 2016) version. But I can still use all the ink features on my iPad so I'm happy for now. Hopefully they'll upgrade the Mac version.
Mac line will never have feature parity. MS not only had years but they removed features on the newer version of Outlook.
Onenote for Mac feels so out of touch compared to the rest of the Office apps.
Wow. I thought I preferred Windows 10 UI until you demonstrated what I was missing. Thanks.
Mine still says onenote 2016 and im so glad to hear it isn't going anywhere. I struggle so much with remembering the details of stuff that I use onenote to make checklists, keep notes, use colors, arrows, and other color options to help me pay attention and remember how to do stuff. I love the searchability of onenote. Id be lost without this software honestly, so I hope it never goes away.
The main problem with one note for window 10 are the lack of fundamental functionality such as: endless page export, custom size export or custom page size and format. They are fundamental couse it's nearly imposible to export to pdf with a nice formatting.
Nice to hear they're pushing Windows 10 features as it is better for ink options, but the structure of 2016 (as you highlighted well) is far superior in structure
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Thank for that great video. OneNote is my every day app that is so versatile as a Wiki inside a Team, Storing Ideas, Drawing on my iPad, Taking Meeting Notes. It is the most underrated app in the MS universe. I don’t understand why MS is not closing the wiki gap with an enterprise version with a better permission system and dynamic components that can syndicate and update content.
I know that they push loop at the moment, but the concept behind it is so far from the real world.
I was very worried for a minute there, now ive found theres an even better version of OneNote! happy days!
This explains what happened to me when I bought this desktop in (I think) 2020. I had been using OneNote 2016, but when I tried to pull up my writing notebook in OneNote for Windows 10 (thinking I should because it was "the newer version"), it erased all but two pages of the notebook! I was devastated because I'd set up that notebook years before and had a ton of notes I'd collected for my novel series. Also, I'd just bought a new Amazon Fire tablet around the same time, and I was looking forward to accessing my notes from both. However, when the notebook was erased, I could only bring up the two pages that were left behind. I cried for days!
It took me two years to be able to trust OneNote again for my story notes. The only reason I came back was I couldn't find a substitute that was free that could hold all the information I need to store. I just needed the time to come to terms with losing the original notebook and be okay with setting up a new one. I'm glad I came back to the right version! I'm totally fine with losing the Win10 version. I never used the other features in that one anyway, so I won't miss them. Thank you for this update!
I switched to OneNote Windows 10 about a year ago and got use to the simplified view & use. Thanks for all the information. Very helpful to know.
My pleasure, Dave!
I been using onenote since office 2016 and is one of my daily apps, all my personal and business tasks are there, I try onenote win 10 but as you said lacks of many features but has it's perks, I was frustrated that were not combined in to one, now you have bring me hope, to bad I still have the 2016 version that only shows onenote, I'm looking forward to get the update, I love how you explained many functions and how to use all this software better every day, coming from a non native english speaker. thank you!
Onenote 2016 : for desk top pc, keyboard data
Onenote window 10: for digitizer pc, digitizer data
I use onenote versions like this
it's really good news for hearing two versions emerging, but i'm afraid this massive change can delete some of my prefer function in onenote 10 or 2016
Such as digital ruler, better ink mode in 10 and mouse middle button scroll in 2016
I love OneNote, I've always used it qnd I want to get a tablet to be able to take better notes while at university
woooowww what an extraordinary explanation!!! best in my life, i´d been looking for it for several years!!! thank you very much
Thank you because I really was confused as to why I had 2 versions of Onenote on my PC. I've only ever used the 2016 version so I'm glad it's not going away
my first experience with One Note was the Windows 10 version. I liked it but something just felt missing from it. I want to give the new/old one a try to see if I find it more useful.
Onenote is the killer app for note taking. I'm a lawyer and I also lecture and participate in higher education training sessions. I use it for both my professional note taking in trials, lectures, personal projects (I publish several articles) and personal notes. Nothing comes even near it.
Thank you for posting this. Much appreciated. So pleased OneNote is not going away.
I'm SOOOO happy to hear that OneNote (2016!) has now been recognized as a fan favorite and is not going anywhere. Thanks for letting us know!
My pleasure, Charlotte!
I finally switched from OneNote to Notion. I was having syncing problems with OneNote for sometime but it was manageable and I usually reluctant to try new stuff. But then it stopped syncing on my Samsung altogether for days last month. That was the final push for me to move on to Notion. I love it now. OneNote on Samsung and Win 11 lacked feature compared to the desktop version and I do not have a tablet so handwriting or scribbling on OneNote was of no use. Lots of features and customization on Notion on the other hand. A little overwhelming coming from the simpler OneNote. But I am slowly learning Notion features and they are far superior.
Thanks Leila. What about the Mac version? Do you have any news about that? Also, the tabbed regions are not available it seems for Macs
Thank you, for the clarification. I was an early, eager adopter of OneNote. Later when Microsoft started changing direction with the OneNote for Windows 10 and it lost functionality, I lost interest. I am now picking it up again where I left it - and it is helpful to understand the bigger picture. I was somewhat surprised when I saw Mike Tholfsen recently explaining about new features coming to the Desktop version - which was supposed to be phased out. Now I understand what is happening.
Leila, thank you for the clear explanation! I want to start using OneNote on my work laptop and have all three version. Now, I know which version to use. Also, my recurring request for you to make ASMR content, I love your voice.
Since this video is so good, I had to rewatch it again for the simple way you explained the concepts of OneNote. Thank you again.
You scared me there. All my recipes are in OneNote. I was like, "Oh no! Now where am I going to keep them!" I am glad it isn't disappearing.
.Actually I started using One Note with the Windows 10 version and I was missing already all the sharing options... I will download the new One Note asap!Thanks for the video, it was really helpful!!
Glad to hear that, Marta!
The 'Insert Screen clipping' is my most useful feature. If it goes, I go with it..
I left OneNote years ago when I lost my password and painfully discovered there was no way to recover or reset it. I’m now a happy satisfied Evernote user.
I have watched many of your videos and consistently find them well produced and informative. The same was true here. Keep up the good work!
Much appreciated!
Man this is another example of the incredibly patient mainstream computer users. There are tons of superior apps, software manufacturers and even operating systems one could use for personal and business benefit but then "you know, I'll simply stick to Microsoft cuz I've always done that".
Good luck with every zigzags in the future.
At least, your video sums all the confusion up in an understandable way. Cheers.
I teach OneNote extensively and one of the features that's been around forever that i don't think any other note-taking app can do is *perform speech to text processing on audio in either sound files or video files* so that you can do a search on those keywords. *AMAZING!* It doesn't give you a transcript as this process is only done in the background, but wouldn't that be an awesome upgrade?!?!
It does require that you 'teach' the speech recognition app how to recognize your speech but that's a one-time only setup and really easy. OneNote is THE best all around application for anything digital. It also offers browser extensions and plug-ins to capture content while you're in a browser.
I just started using it for school as it seems to be more useful because I can easily switch between documents without opening them from the explorer and also it is a lot easier to send them to my smartphone
Thanks for the clarification. This was indeed very confusing, but you made that very clear. I am wondering what will happen with the mobile version on iOS.
I don't quite follow all the instructions she gives in her videos - I just love seeing her and her superb voice. Weird, well yes, maybe. But, man, she is gorgeous!