You can read the book - I have a pair of Sunn 1200S/Fender Bassman 1200 that got busted to fuck in shipping and I was able to get the schematics and service info for them right off Fender's old Sunn archive site. Also, I grew up where a few miles down a backroad and you were literally at the Tualatin Oregon site...when they were building them lol (born in '66)
UPDATE: the last known cache of the old fender support site that had LITERALLY EVERYTHING FROM LEGACY BRANDS on it happened at Jan 26 2021 according to the wayback machine. The pages are there, but all the PDF service docs and manuals are NOT cached, for obvious reasons (they're huge binaries and archive dot org isn't a file service) I am glad I got weird a while back and just started downloading everything I was interested in from the site. I've got a bunch of random service docs if anyone has sun stuff they want to fix but I am 50/50 that I have an actual schematic to an original Sunn Model T. It looks like FMIC made an infrastructure switch and whoever updated their site to the new system and site mapping completely left out legacy brands. You can get a tube count on the 1200S because that was the Fender Bassman Pro 1200, rev 1. There was a whole new line with some DNA in it, silver grating in the front instead of black panel. :-) Point being, if you have a legacy brand that migrated into an actual FMIC branded product, you might find some service data. Otherwise, that ship didn't sail, it was sunk to challenger deep...pruned, with no prejudice. Just dumped. That's a LOT of historic technology flushed down the ol /dev/null crapper
@@russellzauner Fender bought sunn in 1985 and did cabinets and heads and other stuff as it was in Hartzell era. Than it went to sleep in the early 90s. After that in 1997-1998 they decided to release the new heads and cabinets with Fender twist to it. So model T, 300T, 1200S, 412, 115 and 410 cabinets were introduced. Two years later T50C (50W Fender model T in combo and reverb) came to life and additional 112 cabinet. And then in 2002 after only 4 years of doing something to the brand, Fender killed it for good. *more deleted because*
Yeah, I really don't understand why they haven't cashed in on sunn in recent years. Despite fender amps being built like crap nowadays, I'd likely buy one.
I know "less volume" isn't really a JPTR FX thing, but I think a half-power switch or something like the headroom/bedroom switch that Orange does, would be cool. I have a feeling that i could never run this in my flat.
@@LosTroopos half power would be like 75 watts which is basically a twin almost lmao, I actually doubt there would be much difference in the volume level. But I wish there was a way as well
What a monster! Wino from The Obsessed/Spirit Caravan/about a million other bands is one of my all time favourite guitarists so the Model T sound is one really close to my heart. Sounds like JPTR FX absolutely nailed it!
yeah but Wino completely modified his model T. Svetlana 6550 power tubes and EHX preamp tubes. Jug Fulla Sun has the most natural sounding fuzz I've ever heard. Ascending tone.
God I wish someone would do a proper plugin version of this. The Model T and its clones are cartoonishly expensive, not that I would really be able to use one in my apartment to begin with.
Ned Clayton makes a 5w version that ties in pre and power tubes in the line out. Look up Hex Micro T or rectangular Micro T. Pretty amazing little amp especially if you need something for practice/recording but also want to run it out to a larger power amp for live situations.
Great video dude! Thanks for doing my man Chris Jupiter @JPTR FX a solid with a killer demo. I love that guy. He’s one of the coolest dudes in the business. And by the way, great track and great solo! Much different sounding from what I’m used to hear in on your channel.
I really love the enthusisam in that video! And hey, Fluff, love how you still rock the standing playing as in your old videos. 10timescooler than most other youtube guitar performers in a gaming chair. Keep it up!
Oh man! I've been waiting on you to release the demo of this amp since Jupiter's teaser photo's. The Model T is possibly one of my favorite amps of the Stoner/Doom genre, and Chris is such a super cool guy. Holy Cow! Most impressive indeed. Currently waaay out of my personal gear budget, but openly pondering what donating a kidney could fetch on the Dark Web?! Awesome demo as always Fluff, and I especially appreciate you going over as many of it's practical applications. You definitely did Chris an honest and well deserved praise with this one. Very freakin' cool.
I own and love an old Sunn Model T. This amp nails it. If my model T were stolen or something I'd absolutely buy one of these. Easier to find and honestly, given the current market, cheaper than an original.
Finally someone to put the loop jacks on the front! Just don't understand why send is left and return is right when fx pedals have their input jacks right and their output jacks left.
could also depend on which way you face your pedal. do you leave it at the edge of the stage near the mics facing the stage, or do you flip it backwards and leave it at the foot of the cabinet facing the crowd. .
Wow......Sunn Lives......Love the Gibson RD Artist also. Know a friend who had three of them. Great guitars. Wonder how this amp sounds with a Bass guitar.
Several years ago, a friend of mine partnered up with a legit amp builder in the hopes of purchasing Sunn from Fender. They used my old raggedy Model T (which had actually previously been owned by Clutch and used on the Robot Hive/Exodus album:) and schematics to make a 50 watt prototype to present to Fender (as per their requirements). Fender approved of the design and it all boiled down to money.....waaaaaay too much money. RIP Sunn :((ooo)))))))
Start with your legs shoulder width apart, have the amp in between, clean and jerk, and you got it, once its in the air above your head start running to the drop off location and ... ya you cant really drop it... sorry i didnt think this all the way through. Oh I know - have a gym mat ready there, clean and jerk and run and drop. Clean and jerk and run and drop, clean and jerk and run and drop, get a good rhythm and you got that amp moved no problems.
Hey Fluff could you make another video of this amp showing off its own overdrive? I know your not really a doom guy but maybe a sludgy riff thrown in for good measure?
Fluff I feel the like you mentioned a Rat just for me. I really want to get my hands on one of these to try. I’d love to pair it with my Matamp and get loud.
Meanwhile, Fender just sitting on the whole Sunn brand like an old book under grandpa's tv stand.
Seriously. And people stop paying top dollar for that later Fender Model T reissue that's just a red knob Twin in a different box.
You can read the book - I have a pair of Sunn 1200S/Fender Bassman 1200 that got busted to fuck in shipping and I was able to get the schematics and service info for them right off Fender's old Sunn archive site.
Also, I grew up where a few miles down a backroad and you were literally at the Tualatin Oregon site...when they were building them lol (born in '66)
UPDATE: the last known cache of the old fender support site that had LITERALLY EVERYTHING FROM LEGACY BRANDS on it happened at Jan 26 2021 according to the wayback machine. The pages are there, but all the PDF service docs and manuals are NOT cached, for obvious reasons (they're huge binaries and archive dot org isn't a file service)
I am glad I got weird a while back and just started downloading everything I was interested in from the site. I've got a bunch of random service docs if anyone has sun stuff they want to fix but I am 50/50 that I have an actual schematic to an original Sunn Model T.
It looks like FMIC made an infrastructure switch and whoever updated their site to the new system and site mapping completely left out legacy brands. You can get a tube count on the 1200S because that was the Fender Bassman Pro 1200, rev 1. There was a whole new line with some DNA in it, silver grating in the front instead of black panel. :-)
Point being, if you have a legacy brand that migrated into an actual FMIC branded product, you might find some service data. Otherwise, that ship didn't sail, it was sunk to challenger deep...pruned, with no prejudice. Just dumped.
That's a LOT of historic technology flushed down the ol /dev/null crapper
@@russellzauner Fender bought sunn in 1985 and did cabinets and heads and other stuff as it was in Hartzell era. Than it went to sleep in the early 90s. After that in 1997-1998 they decided to release the new heads and cabinets with Fender twist to it. So model T, 300T, 1200S, 412, 115 and 410 cabinets were introduced. Two years later T50C (50W Fender model T in combo and reverb) came to life and additional 112 cabinet.
And then in 2002 after only 4 years of doing something to the brand, Fender killed it for good.
*more deleted because*
Yeah, I really don't understand why they haven't cashed in on sunn in recent years. Despite fender amps being built like crap nowadays, I'd likely buy one.
Fluff playing an actual solo! Amazing tone.
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Fluff is a man who has played/ and owned Peavey amps, if he says this is THE heaviest amp he's picked up, I believe him
Trve
Sounds glorious! Chris is a genius for putting the effects loop directly underneath the front-end inputs.
You know Fluff loves an amp when he plays lead lol!
That sounds doooooope!
Just let me know rabea just let me know
@@JPTRFX 😂
Wow!
I know "less volume" isn't really a JPTR FX thing, but I think a half-power switch or something like the headroom/bedroom switch that Orange does, would be cool.
I have a feeling that i could never run this in my flat.
@@LosTroopos its not designed to run in a flat at all
@@LosTroopos half power would be like 75 watts which is basically a twin almost lmao, I actually doubt there would be much difference in the volume level. But I wish there was a way as well
That might be the best sounding amp I’ve ever heard.
that first demo song made me grow a flannel shirt on my back
What a monster!
Wino from The Obsessed/Spirit Caravan/about a million other bands is one of my all time favourite guitarists so the Model T sound is one really close to my heart.
Sounds like JPTR FX absolutely nailed it!
yeah but Wino completely modified his model T. Svetlana 6550 power tubes and EHX preamp tubes. Jug Fulla Sun has the most natural sounding fuzz I've ever heard. Ascending tone.
dude, that little song is the best thing and the best tone i´ve heard in years
First note played and I must say this is the best tone I have heard in your channel yet! It is so smooth! Great purchase!
God I wish someone would do a proper plugin version of this. The Model T and its clones are cartoonishly expensive, not that I would really be able to use one in my apartment to begin with.
Can you imagine like a SUNN O))) suite from Neural DSP or something? A man can dream...
@@fumaani I know right? Been dreaming of that for a while.
@@fumaani I'd probably just throw money at the screen if that happened.
Ned Clayton makes a 5w version that ties in pre and power tubes in the line out. Look up Hex Micro T or rectangular Micro T. Pretty amazing little amp especially if you need something for practice/recording but also want to run it out to a larger power amp for live situations.
I believe Amplitube has a model of it. IIRC it's in the Jimi Hendrix pack?
Great video dude! Thanks for doing my man Chris Jupiter @JPTR FX a solid with a killer demo. I love that guy. He’s one of the coolest dudes in the business. And by the way, great track and great solo! Much different sounding from what I’m used to hear in on your channel.
This is exactly the sound I've been looking for
I got goosebumps when you said it was a shoegazers dream. This is definitely an amp I would consider getting thanks for the great content
FX loop on the front panel: BRAVO!
I was pretty suprised how good that DOD sounded with that amp.
Man, I keep coming back to this vid just for the mix. Fluff may have really found something with his tone in this one. I hope he does more with it.
Here is hoping for a full Fluff Stoner Rock EP.
Whoa the effects loop in the front is a game changer!
Frick yeah! JPTR is the next big thing
I really love the enthusisam in that video! And hey, Fluff, love how you still rock the standing playing as in your old videos. 10timescooler than most other youtube guitar performers in a gaming chair. Keep it up!
Wicked! love it in the full mix!
That tone and playing through the RD just made me grin like crazy. That's what I'm talking about.
Wow. First off I loved today’s mix, second, the amp was killing it.
Some of the best sounds I have heard you get man. Great track dude.
Creamy and gooiest drive. Did you just add GOOIEST to our gear vernacular? Love that. That amp is sick.
I was more impressed with the Boss Reverb pedal than I was the amp.
Dude when you turned on the OCD the bass on my sound system started bounce. BTW this amp sounds great! DOOM MACHINE!
This is such a great amp. I am glad it landed in your hands dude!
3:38 sick riffs and tone
Made in 26382 Wilhelmshaven - Germany. Thats my hometown. ❤️
I kind of sh*t myself when you mentioned the price - I thought it was going to be much higher.
Especially since the Sunn's sell used for around there in the US. Very reasonable.
If you have 'Ohnmacht' it means you have fainted! Must be a beast.....🎸🤘
Great Video. Now Please get a Rat pedal and make a Doom/Drone Video ;)
Dang, that sounded amazing.
Commenting before i watch... Gonna need huge sludge stoner dooom riffs!!
That Big Muff Sunn T tone... HOLY SCHNIKES so good, so thick, so rifftastic!
Wow dude, sick riffs. Even sicker Amp!
Very interesting & pleasing distortion on this one. Thanks for the demo Fluff 💯
Oh man! I've been waiting on you to release the demo of this amp since Jupiter's teaser photo's. The Model T is possibly one of my favorite amps of the Stoner/Doom genre, and Chris is such a super cool guy.
Holy Cow! Most impressive indeed. Currently waaay out of my personal gear budget, but openly pondering what donating a kidney could fetch on the Dark Web?!
Awesome demo as always Fluff, and I especially appreciate you going over as many of it's practical applications. You definitely did Chris an honest and well deserved praise with this one.
Very freakin' cool.
I've been waiting for a while for this video to finally drop. Certified dream amp right there. Hope I can get one for myself one day.
I own and love an old Sunn Model T. This amp nails it. If my model T were stolen or something I'd absolutely buy one of these. Easier to find and honestly, given the current market, cheaper than an original.
Danke!
$2500 euros??
really like the looks of that RD. i've played everything, i thought, but never an RD.
Oh yeah. Been wanting this since I played the prototype at 42 Gear Street. Want want want.
Always loving your clean sound !
And this amp is really amazing dude
The Fuzz tones from this amp sound really nice.
Finally someone to put the loop jacks on the front! Just don't understand why send is left and return is right when fx pedals have their input jacks right and their output jacks left.
could also depend on which way you face your pedal. do you leave it at the edge of the stage near the mics facing the stage, or do you flip it backwards and leave it at the foot of the cabinet facing the crowd. .
@@666thsense good point. Haven't thought of that
thank you so much for showing us guitar gear heads what is available out there-love your channel
Oh man! Tones for daysss! Great demo Fluff!
This sounds sick!!!
Wow......Sunn Lives......Love the Gibson RD Artist also. Know a friend who had three of them. Great guitars. Wonder how this amp sounds with a Bass guitar.
God damn now I really want to hear a Fluff stoner rock album!
I thought I wanted a Friedman JJ-100, but here we are.
Several years ago, a friend of mine partnered up with a legit amp builder in the hopes of purchasing Sunn from Fender. They used my old raggedy Model T (which had actually previously been owned by Clutch and used on the Robot Hive/Exodus album:) and schematics to make a 50 watt prototype to present to Fender (as per their requirements). Fender approved of the design and it all boiled down to money.....waaaaaay too much money. RIP Sunn :((ooo)))))))
I love anything JPTR FX! Pedals are amazing.🐲
C’mon Fluff, you know you wanna dime that thing...
1 of 2 amps you've had on here that I just looked at and said I need that in my life the other was a Revolt Plexnstien witch I now own
"In the mix" tone was the SCHNIZ!
Page not found.. where can I buy now
7:47 left side of the table - ghost???
Hell yeah! Been waiting for these stoner riffs from you for years, Fluff.
tbh i liked the clean tone the most!
Super Distortion was my first pedal, ever.
It amazes me that u get so many different amps and get them all to sound the same.
because its the same person playing these
You need to make this a whole song then make a whole album of this
Chris rules!
Play this way... this is the best sound! 😍😍😍
Wow, this amp sounds awesome! Big, fat and dangerous. I love it. Thanks for the review!
Oh I've been waiting for this :D
2500EUR amp with a big muff sound test?
What the Fluff is really goin on !! 🤘🎸🤘
if the mix is just straight in using the amp gain, thats awesome.
Start with your legs shoulder width apart, have the amp in between, clean and jerk, and you got it, once its in the air above your head start running to the drop off location and ... ya you cant really drop it... sorry i didnt think this all the way through. Oh I know - have a gym mat ready there, clean and jerk and run and drop. Clean and jerk and run and drop, clean and jerk and run and drop, get a good rhythm and you got that amp moved no problems.
What happened to this amp, already discontinued??
I'm excited to snag one of these soon!
That is one of hte nicest sounding amps I've heard in a dogs age. Wow :)
What 4x12 cab and speakers would you be most inclined to match up with this amp?
The bigger the better
Finallly this amp is reviewed!
Great sound! Well done, sir!
how similar would you say a bassman and model T preamp are??
Hey Fluff could you make another video of this amp showing off its own overdrive? I know your not really a doom guy but maybe a sludgy riff thrown in for good measure?
@fluff: even the bass was recorded via the Ohmmacht?
This thing would be amazing for sludge, doom, and shoegaze. Can't afford it, but I want it. 😁
Wow, That tone, sound all of it is so FN perfect, how much do these Cost Fluff???????
That tone is thick af. I really want to hear some riffs with the neck pickup for that really meaty sound.
Whoa!🤘🤘 Seriously rad amp!
Replacing those KT88's is going to hurt the pocketbook. But I love the sound of them. I had a 200 watt Marshall Major back in the day .
Every 4 years 200 euros but 4 years of full volume
Dayum!! Dream amp right there.
Sounds awesome !!
The Construction 👌👌👌👌
That demo song was fuckin awesome, and so was the tone
Really enjoyed this one fluff 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Fluff I feel the like you mentioned a Rat just for me. I really want to get my hands on one of these to try. I’d love to pair it with my Matamp and get loud.
Fernweh is one of my favs.
Fluff!! What amp did you use for the intro video to all of your videos?? Sounds like a plug in??
F**k. Imma have to buy one of these now. It sounds sooo good!
New signature plugin?
You had me at KT88's.