I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves it. I feel guilty because it's all about Akane suffering through this. But it's beautiful and it really hits your heart.
Akane is NOT vegetarian. That's a translation mistake. She said she has the spirit of dedication & still have a lot to learn, that's why she is the one cooking meat for the others.
No, it's straight up a mistranslation. They translated 精進の身, (which means in training, mentally) but they translated as 精進料理 (Shojin ryouri Buddhist vegetarian diet) because they use the same characters. While Shoujin no mi originally did come from Buddhist training, in modern times it doesn't mean that at all and became a general word for someone who is in mentality of training.
There is a Japanese entertainer that went through a similar thing and ended up dying, whether it's directly based on that or it's just a coincidence no one really knows, and when this episode airs the mother put out a complaint for reminding her of her daughter's tragedy and ironically people ends up harassing her like they didn't learn anything from the episode
@@blackpepper2610 And why not? Even if the episode ultimately wasn't inspired by that incident, the story is still a good reminder to consider people's mental health and think about whether you are getting into personal insult or harassment territory when talking to/about someone on social media, even if you think they deserve it.
@@blackpepper2610 You disagree? Surely you don't think it's fine to tear into people on social media just because it wasn't Akasaka's intent to copy that incident, do you? The family's pain was still real, as was the internet abuse they experienced.
I don't know any particular name or story, but I swear I must've seen quite a number of such stories in Japan. As a tourist destination, Japan is awesome, but I certainly can't imagine living under the pressure and need to conform and not stand out.
The most infuriating part of it is that people started attacking the mother of a su**ide victim just because she complained about their tv show. Isn't that the total opposite of the scene's message
@@riduanaqil1452 They had no right to do that. Kyoko Kimura was always a passionate woman who spoke her mind when she thought somebody was out of line, them telling her about it like she'd want to watch anything that reminds her of the horrible events around her daughter's death is ridiculous.
I feel like partly why Aqua was there to save Akane was because he was a doctor so he had some education about psychology and maybe he had some kind of hunch what could happen because of the online comments and from their group chat where he could see how Akane was reacting etc. (I could be wrong though).
Oshi no Ko will give you whiplash from showing you the cutesy idol culture, to the intricacies of relationships between people in showbiz, to suddenly *this*
I definitely do think that if Akane DID in fact die in this moment, sure it would have been tragic as hell, but it would really HAMMER in the message that "Hey this stuff can/actually happens in real life"
What's sad is that I still see people behaving that way online but I think about it more because of this episode. I was also just thinking about when I first saw this I was yelling at the TV for Akane to put her phone down but I just realized she was probably ego surfing because her boss needed to make sure she had more of a presence.
You need to remember everyone else in the reality show are just high school teenagers but aqua deep down is still 30+ with much more experience. They might be worried about Akane but Aqua is the one who can immediately pick up and understand the changes in her mental state and what it could lead to
he is not only older (after all Memcho as the oldest of the cast was worried as well) but he is also a former doctor and prob knows at least some bits about psychology to realize what is happening
@@calronkeltaran493 he is a labour/women's doctor so i didn't mention it because i am not sure as to how much psychology the major has he might have studied some in the beginning before going for the specific field
@@Hronika-kw5pl I'm also not sure how medicine study goes in this field but I would assume, that he at least knows the basics. he has shown using psycologie before when he explained how he reads kana and made her join B-Komachi or how he knows how to talk with elders. even tho that was something he picked up later, he seems analytical enough so recognize those things
@calronkeltaran493 I'm just not going into the topic of psychology deeper because I might accidentally spoil something, but yes Trying to keep it simple and spoiler free to the max
The funny thing is that, apparently, the works of Aka Akasaka (the creator of this show and Kaguya-sama) tend to be in many ways pretty dark, sad and depressing by nature most of the time. So Kaguya-sama is basically the oddball among his works in terms of writting style rather than the norm.
I like how they started the show with blatant disclaimer of 'work of fiction, not based on any real events' as a joke, yet it turned out into real legal a5$-cover disclaimer for when it really is the opposite and heavily inspired by real events.
when this part of the story was released very shortly before pretty much the exact same thing happened to someone in japanese tv, sadly she did not have someone that stopped her... This show hits so hard because its not "just an anime" the things shown here are actually happening out there which is disgusting
In Japan, there are several idol groups whose members keep changing as time goes on. One of the oldest groups, Morning Musume, have been around since the late 90s, is still around…but the first generation is the best, IMHO.
So the reuse of the group name will not bring as much criticism as you would think for multiple reasons. #1 The group B-Komamchi continued on after Ai's death for a while but eventually decided to break up because she was the "glue" that held the group together. #2 It is actually common for a new group to inherit a previous groups name because that is justification to use the old songs, creating an eras of [insert band name here] thing. #3 Strawberry Productions would no doubt say that "Ruby loved Ai and was a massive fan who wanted to inherit the name in her memory, not to mention while they can't expose her being Ai's child they can actually say we were so busy that Ai actually was our babysitter most of the time so these kids spent the beginning of their lives thinking of Ai as a second mother, then they could bring up that Ai was watching the children on the day of her death something that no doubt was in the police report which would inspire some fans to think "If anyone will inherit and carry on her legacy it should be the kids she helped raise."
Some facts. There is a real life incident. Hana Kimura a professional wrestler killed herself after a wave of online abuse after appearing in the Japanese reality TV show Terrace House. Unfortunately, there was no Aqua to save her. RIP Hana Kimura.
I will stand by the boss side, his whole rant was directed to the manager that screwed this up, As i understand the proposal probably was made to the agency and the manager pitched for Akane despite she not being well suited for this kinda of exposition. He also makes no move in guiding her in the context of the reality-show or the backlash that she surfers. even more if the agency has other talents that can better use this opportunity. he saying that will protect her is pathetic
@onyacharles3075 Oh piss off. This isn't a spoiler in any shape or form. It's a small tidbit to clear up the mischaracterization of her character, which comes up soon anyway.
This is inspired by a real life story but there was no Aqua to save the day. I think the mother of the victim tried to sue the manga for using her daughter's story but people on the internet started attacking her for trying to sue their fav manga. In a better world, people might've seen the message of this scene but in the end the people defending the scene is doing the exact opposite thing it was meant to teach
Some things I have to say about bands that are reactivated. Currently Linkin Park with new singer Emily Armstrong and new drummer is quite a thing. They even appear in League Of Legends.😂 As for this episode. 13:45 Akane made a mistake and in that moment I realized how much I connect with her. She really is kind and hardworking girl. Just like me, but I'm a man. 😂 Great reaction!😃
This episode was influenced by a true story. Hana Kimura, who was in a reality tv show like this one, got so much hate online that caused her to unfortunately commit s*icide. This episode was a bit controversial in Japan because the mother of Hana Kimura has criticized this episode on twitter/x commenting that the hate comment that akane reveived in the show was exactly or a little too similar to the hate comment Hana reveived. (FYI Hanna got hate for just yelling at the guy because she was mad her wrestling uniform that was precious to her was ruined by him. Apparently her mother reveived a mesage from her that the producer team had told her to slap him for the dramatic effect to the show but she couldn't brkng her self to do it)
Sad fact, the family of the actress who died and this episode was based on blasted the anime for this, saying it was disrespectful for them to use the death of their family member for fictional content. The studio's response was that this was taken directly from the manga, the source material. So they did notbing wrong in simply adapting the source material faithfully
This episode is inspired by hana kimura. She also joined a reality show and sa herself. Some fans of the shows harassed her mother as she commented that some media is using the death of her daughter, which is being used as a free source material. Which is so ironic
The "vegetarian" is a translation mistake, basically she said a word similar to vegetarian but that actually means that she is practicing to cook the meat
What a terrible mistranslation! The mistranslations are so bad I wonder if the translator doesn't understand Japanese at all. Akane is not a vegetarian. She never said so. She says that because she is still training to be an actress, she always makes sure to be considerate of those around her even at mealtimes. Akane used the Japanese word "shojin," which means "in training." This "shojin" is originally a Buddhist term, and "shojin food" refers to vegetarian food, so the translator must have made a mistake. Either way, it's a terrible mistranslation, because Japanese people would never interpret it that way.
Unfortunately, this episode was loosely based on the suicide of Hana Kimura, she was a female wrestler who took part in a reality TV show and due to her portrayal on it was bullied online until she took her own life
im pretty sure thats a common misconception the manga had this scene before she died so he literally couldn't base it on that specific event. Its just an unfortunate common incident
AFAIK vegan in asia isn't like vegan in the west. It's not really political/social movement, or some kind of moral statements. Some people just doesn't like the taste of meat so they doesn't eat them. I'm one of them.
There is a real reference in this story that you saw, there was even an initiative by the mother with the author to sue him for exposing a story similar to what happened to her daughter, who did not have someone to save her
So, this unfortunately happened in japan with a popular show in the late 2010's called Terrace House. Super popular, people loved it, it was even on netflix, but a similar scenario happened and the girl on the show that was being bullied took her own life. I like how this is Oshi No Ko's author's attempt at bringing this shit to light to show how shitty it is. Yeah might seem obvious but a lot of people still don't understand that their words have consequences.
show biz + teenagers + internet, can't go more toxic than this combo
Sad truth
Amazing for a hangover, though.
this kinda case actually happen IRL, the Person that actually suicide because of reality show in Japan. @@CaraPrezReacts
+ drugs would be more toxic I think, but yeah, for sure a terrible combo
honestly this episode is one of the best episodes I've watched in any media period, masterpiece
I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves it. I feel guilty because it's all about Akane suffering through this. But it's beautiful and it really hits your heart.
Agree
Akane is NOT vegetarian. That's a translation mistake.
She said she has the spirit of dedication & still have a lot to learn, that's why she is the one cooking meat for the others.
The show is about to cause a legit tsunami next ep
Broke the internet.
I think this one is more like the tsunami one
Yeah…we weren’t ready
Akane's vegetarianism is more of a diet than a moral choice
Edit: it was actually a mistranslation
No, it's straight up a mistranslation. They translated 精進の身, (which means in training, mentally) but they translated as 精進料理 (Shojin ryouri Buddhist vegetarian diet) because they use the same characters.
While Shoujin no mi originally did come from Buddhist training, in modern times it doesn't mean that at all and became a general word for someone who is in mentality of training.
@@aohige すごくわかりやすい！
以前このベジタリアンって訳について、グーグル翻訳とか使いながら自分なりに英語で説明してみたんだけどなかなか難しくて……
2期で手料理ふるまうときとか東ブレの打ち上げの時にも、あかねはベジタリアンなのに～って勘違いしている外国人リアクターがちょいちょいいてもやもやしてました笑
@@tiatea7056 そもそも精進の身が現代の会話で違う使い方されているから起こる勘違いですよねｗ
いや、単なる翻訳者の実力不足だと思う。
語源や由来を知らなくても現代では「精神を集中して励むこと」という意味で一般的に使われているのだから。
@@aohige thx for the correction
There is a Japanese entertainer that went through a similar thing and ended up dying, whether it's directly based on that or it's just a coincidence no one really knows, and when this episode airs the mother put out a complaint for reminding her of her daughter's tragedy and ironically people ends up harassing her like they didn't learn anything from the episode
The author confirmed that it was just a coincidence.
ah, the classic mandatory comment every time oshi no ko episode 6 reaction is uploaded
@@blackpepper2610 And why not? Even if the episode ultimately wasn't inspired by that incident, the story is still a good reminder to consider people's mental health and think about whether you are getting into personal insult or harassment territory when talking to/about someone on social media, even if you think they deserve it.
@@originaldarkwater sure buddy
@@blackpepper2610 You disagree? Surely you don't think it's fine to tear into people on social media just because it wasn't Akasaka's intent to copy that incident, do you? The family's pain was still real, as was the internet abuse they experienced.
If I remember correctly Akane's situation is based on a real story from Japan, very similar, but without Aqua's last second save.
I don't know any particular name or story, but I swear I must've seen quite a number of such stories in Japan. As a tourist destination, Japan is awesome, but I certainly can't imagine living under the pressure and need to conform and not stand out.
That's not true. The author confirmed that it wasn't based on any of that.
The most infuriating part of it is that people started attacking the mother of a su**ide victim just because she complained about their tv show. Isn't that the total opposite of the scene's message
yeah it was Hana Kimura, my fave in Terrace House...
I loved that show
@@riduanaqil1452 They had no right to do that. Kyoko Kimura was always a passionate woman who spoke her mind when she thought somebody was out of line, them telling her about it like she'd want to watch anything that reminds her of the horrible events around her daughter's death is ridiculous.
This series is a master class of showing you how the entertainment industry is
I feel like partly why Aqua was there to save Akane was because he was a doctor so he had some education about psychology and maybe he had some kind of hunch what could happen because of the online comments and from their group chat where he could see how Akane was reacting etc. (I could be wrong though).
Your reactions are really enjoyable. The banter, the thought process, everything.
Oshi no Ko will give you whiplash from showing you the cutesy idol culture, to the intricacies of relationships between people in showbiz, to suddenly *this*
this chapter its the PEAK of oshi no ko, this is when you know "this is gonna be a master piece"
Breaks my heart every time.
This is one of my fav episodes of ONK, we get so much depth on what is imo the best character in the whole series. Akane!
Still get teary eyed after watching it so many times
Most managers in Japan acts lile a parent figure to their workers. It's more often in Japan than here.
The fact that this is from a real story makes it even sadder….but the person who experienced the same thing didnt have a aqua to save her..💔
RIP Hana Kimura 😔
We had to wait WEEKS for the next episode.....AGHH the cliffhanger we were left on for WEEKS HAHAHA
The irony that she had just done her nail which is probably why its that sharp
I definitely do think that if Akane DID in fact die in this moment, sure it would have been tragic as hell, but it would really HAMMER in the message that "Hey this stuff can/actually happens in real life"
What's sad is that I still see people behaving that way online but I think about it more because of this episode. I was also just thinking about when I first saw this I was yelling at the TV for Akane to put her phone down but I just realized she was probably ego surfing because her boss needed to make sure she had more of a presence.
This ep is so good man. I remember watching it the first time.
Every time they said A-chan I expected a certain office lady to bust through the window
This is a great episode that’s based on true events. It led to the Japanese government introducing laws against online harassment.
9:08 Prez Cute
There, now its in the algorithm
yep. Prez-chan cute. lol... "Ai" though that he was talking about himself too.
The look on Cara's face...so good!
Best reactions frfr
You need to remember everyone else in the reality show are just high school teenagers but aqua deep down is still 30+ with much more experience. They might be worried about Akane but Aqua is the one who can immediately pick up and understand the changes in her mental state and what it could lead to
he is not only older (after all Memcho as the oldest of the cast was worried as well) but he is also a former doctor and prob knows at least some bits about psychology to realize what is happening
@@calronkeltaran493 he is a labour/women's doctor so i didn't mention it because i am not sure as to how much psychology the major has
he might have studied some in the beginning before going for the specific field
@@Hronika-kw5pl I'm also not sure how medicine study goes in this field but I would assume, that he at least knows the basics. he has shown using psycologie before when he explained how he reads kana and made her join B-Komachi or how he knows how to talk with elders. even tho that was something he picked up later, he seems analytical enough so recognize those things
@calronkeltaran493 I'm just not going into the topic of psychology deeper because I might accidentally spoil something, but yes
Trying to keep it simple and spoiler free to the max
@@Hronika-kw5pl fair enough. for this, I also only mentioned stuff that we know so far as both my examples are from Ep 1-2
The funny thing is that, apparently, the works of Aka Akasaka (the creator of this show and Kaguya-sama) tend to be in many ways pretty dark, sad and depressing by nature most of the time. So Kaguya-sama is basically the oddball among his works in terms of writting style rather than the norm.
Meanwhile, the f*ckin' Shinomiya family…
Meanwhile, Shirogane's mother…
I like how they started the show with blatant disclaimer of 'work of fiction, not based on any real events' as a joke, yet it turned out into real legal a5$-cover disclaimer for when it really is the opposite and heavily inspired by real events.
when this part of the story was released very shortly before pretty much the exact same thing happened to someone in japanese tv, sadly she did not have someone that stopped her...
This show hits so hard because its not "just an anime" the things shown here are actually happening out there which is disgusting
We had to much goofyness last episode time to remind us of what this show is realisticly dark.
The fact that all these disasters would've been avoided if the production crew didn't air that scene still upsets me to this day.
In Japan, there are several idol groups whose members keep changing as time goes on. One of the oldest groups, Morning Musume, have been around since the late 90s, is still around…but the first generation is the best, IMHO.
Oh wow. I remember them.
So the reuse of the group name will not bring as much criticism as you would think for multiple reasons.
#1 The group B-Komamchi continued on after Ai's death for a while but eventually decided to break up because she was the "glue" that held the group together.
#2 It is actually common for a new group to inherit a previous groups name because that is justification to use the old songs, creating an eras of [insert band name here] thing.
#3 Strawberry Productions would no doubt say that "Ruby loved Ai and was a massive fan who wanted to inherit the name in her memory, not to mention while they can't expose her being Ai's child they can actually say we were so busy that Ai actually was our babysitter most of the time so these kids spent the beginning of their lives thinking of Ai as a second mother, then they could bring up that Ai was watching the children on the day of her death something that no doubt was in the police report which would inspire some fans to think "If anyone will inherit and carry on her legacy it should be the kids she helped raise."
I'm enjoying watching it
RIP Hana Kimura
Some facts. There is a real life incident. Hana Kimura a professional wrestler killed herself after a wave of online abuse after appearing in the Japanese reality TV show Terrace House. Unfortunately, there was no Aqua to save her. RIP Hana Kimura.
I also though Prez was saying that he did egosurfing 😭
Did prez just called Akane A-chan? www
I will stand by the boss side, his whole rant was directed to the manager that screwed this up, As i understand the proposal probably was made to the agency and the manager pitched for Akane despite she not being well suited for this kinda of exposition. He also makes no move in guiding her in the context of the reality-show or the backlash that she surfers. even more if the agency has other talents that can better use this opportunity. he saying that will protect her is pathetic
And Akane as a character only gets better from here on out.
Akena isn't a small upcoming star. She's quite an established actor, but more so in stage plays. This reality TV show biz, however, is new to her.
Bro it's not revealed yet💀
Stop spoiling the show
@onyacharles3075 Oh piss off. This isn't a spoiler in any shape or form. It's a small tidbit to clear up the mischaracterization of her character, which comes up soon anyway.
This is inspired by a real life story but there was no Aqua to save the day. I think the mother of the victim tried to sue the manga for using her daughter's story but people on the internet started attacking her for trying to sue their fav manga. In a better world, people might've seen the message of this scene but in the end the people defending the scene is doing the exact opposite thing it was meant to teach
Some things I have to say about bands that are reactivated. Currently Linkin Park with new singer Emily Armstrong and new drummer is quite a thing. They even appear in League Of Legends.😂
As for this episode. 13:45 Akane made a mistake and in that moment I realized how much I connect with her. She really is kind and hardworking girl. Just like me, but I'm a man. 😂 Great reaction!😃
This episode was influenced by a true story. Hana Kimura, who was in a reality tv show like this one, got so much hate online that caused her to unfortunately commit s*icide.
This episode was a bit controversial in Japan because the mother of Hana Kimura has criticized this episode on twitter/x commenting that the hate comment that akane reveived in the show was exactly or a little too similar to the hate comment Hana reveived.
(FYI Hanna got hate for just yelling at the guy because she was mad her wrestling uniform that was precious to her was ruined by him. Apparently her mother reveived a mesage from her that the producer team had told her to slap him for the dramatic effect to the show but she couldn't brkng her self to do it)
INFO: This literally happened to one of the person in real life but unfortunately she didnt had Aqua in her life. May her soul rest in peace.
Sad fact, the family of the actress who died and this episode was based on blasted the anime for this, saying it was disrespectful for them to use the death of their family member for fictional content. The studio's response was that this was taken directly from the manga, the source material. So they did notbing wrong in simply adapting the source material faithfully
This episode is inspired by hana kimura. She also joined a reality show and sa herself. Some fans of the shows harassed her mother as she commented that some media is using the death of her daughter, which is being used as a free source material. Which is so ironic
The "vegetarian" is a translation mistake, basically she said a word similar to vegetarian but that actually means that she is practicing to cook the meat
Akane is gonna become the best girl here on 😚
🔥🔥
Your lie in April please
What a terrible mistranslation! The mistranslations are so bad I wonder if the translator doesn't understand Japanese at all.
Akane is not a vegetarian. She never said so.
She says that because she is still training to be an actress, she always makes sure to be considerate of those around her even at mealtimes.
Akane used the Japanese word "shojin," which means "in training."
This "shojin" is originally a Buddhist term, and "shojin food" refers to vegetarian food, so the translator must have made a mistake.
Either way, it's a terrible mistranslation, because Japanese people would never interpret it that way.
The description says episode 7 you silly gooses
My bad I will admit it this time😂 - Prez
@@CaraPrezReactsHonest mistake
4:18 nah bro, there's difference between Animal Rights Activists Vegans and People who just want to eat healthy LMAO
Unfortunately, this episode was loosely based on the suicide of Hana Kimura, she was a female wrestler who took part in a reality TV show and due to her portrayal on it was bullied online until she took her own life
im pretty sure thats a common misconception the manga had this scene before she died so he literally couldn't base it on that specific event. Its just an unfortunate common incident
1:34 Cara died?!?! 😦
Prez cute
AFAIK vegan in asia isn't like vegan in the west. It's not really political/social movement, or some kind of moral statements.
Some people just doesn't like the taste of meat so they doesn't eat them. I'm one of them.
man, ya think this was good. y'all aint ready for s2!
Please upload the reaction of the kaguya sama movie in youtube also
Aqua is one of the worst and one of the best characters in this show 😅 (worst because of his manipulation)
Yeah and kisse his own sister 🤢
@@Brainfocus81 well to be fair it was the sister who kissed him, he didn’t want to do it nor even thought of doing it🤷♂️😅
@@Random_Python well he did... for a film scene, so that doesn't realy count
also @Brainfocus81 get over it
@@Brainfocus81 thanks for the spoilers jackass
There is a real reference in this story that you saw, there was even an initiative by the mother with the author to sue him for exposing a story similar to what happened to her daughter, who did not have someone to save her
#PrezCute
earlyyyy ❤🔥
First❤
So, this unfortunately happened in japan with a popular show in the late 2010's called Terrace House. Super popular, people loved it, it was even on netflix, but a similar scenario happened and the girl on the show that was being bullied took her own life. I like how this is Oshi No Ko's author's attempt at bringing this shit to light to show how shitty it is. Yeah might seem obvious but a lot of people still don't understand that their words have consequences.