The best denoiser in PhotoLab 8, DeepPrime, may not work with astro images. It is AI-reliant, and it seems to need (or want) to know what camera it is working with. With stacked images, this info doesn't come up and the DeepPrime tab won't activate. Let me know if it works for you. But if it doesn't, NoiseXterminator and the denoiser in GraXpert are pretty good.
looks like a great piece of astro editing software. I'm curious how it will work on pulling dust from reflection nebula. Something like Pleiades, where it can be difficult to keep the blues of the main nebula but also pull out all that ribbony dust around it. Or even dark nebula, to get that dust to pop. On your other video you covered a bit about that and it got me thinking about how I could use this tool for some of my projects.
I just posted a video with a brief demo of the workflow. The space around is dark, and the lighter material is the dust and gas coalescing into the darker, colder regions. By leaving the space dark and selectively leaving the surrounding dust and gas brighter, the dark nebula can be revealed, along with the surrounding structures formed by stellar winds. Only this software has allowed me to do this effectively.
You can do a lot of this in the Essentials version but I would honestly recommend the Elite version. You get better masking and tonal control in the Elite version. It was really with the release of PL8 that PhotoLab came to stand out as the superior developing alternative. You can read more about the differences here: www.dxo.com/dxo-photolab/whats-new/
Great video. Am in need of some help - Am trying to do the same and it just won't let me load up an image. It keeps saying that I don't have a DxO module for the camera used to take the shot. In the EXIF data there is no camera detail. My TIF is an uncompressed export from PixInsight. Any suggestions/ideas?
Bear in mind I've only had PL8 under a week, but it only works in TIFF, jpg and raw files. When you load an image, it will look first for the camera and lens to do automatic correction based on the camera/lens combination. However, such default data will not be available for astro cameras and telescopes. Just skip the request and load your image. It'll work fine.
@@SKYST0RY Thanks for responding so quickly. Unfortunately this is not an option for me at present. It flat-out insists on having one of these modules. There is no choosing to not apply a correection module. I'm using the MacOS version. I can't 'load' an image, only select from what is being shown as a folder viewer of the current folder. I'm keen to give this a try but won't risk $229 buying it until I can get past this speed bump.
###### UPDATE - fixed!! I exported as a TIFF from PixInsight - it has to be a 16 bit integer per channel format, no compression. Colour palette info can be embedded. Now off to play with PL8!!!
@@mschmalenbach I was just about to message you back when I saw your reply. I could not get your issue to replicate on my system, so I was unable to figure out a solution. I am glad you found one, and now I see why your situation wasn't working. I never compress my tiff files, and I only save as 16 bit, so I would never have encountered the issue. The only downside to PL8 is you can only use the DeepPrime on raw and DNG images. While FITS files are raw, it is not yet configured for them. I hope they remedy that. I have been looking for a DNG converter, in the mean time.
Which version of PhotoLab8 do you recommend? The Elite version has noise reduction, is this something that works for AP images, or is starxterminator better?
The Elite version, definitely. Better masking, hue ranging, tonal control, etc. However, the DeepPrime denoising, while excellent, only works on RAW file formats. You can read more about the differences between Elite and Essential here: www.dxo.com/dxo-photolab/whats-new/
@@RigoFromSpain Absolutely. I'll probably replace my Uranus-C with another Ares camera. Probably just color, though, since it sits on the little refractor.
Thank you for taking the time to do this wonderful video, I really appreciate it ❤🎉❤
Very nice demonstration of Photolab 8 THANKS !
thanks for this video. Think will try PL8.
Thanks for this video , ive just got Dxo and I'm very excited to try it out , especially the de noising on astro images , fingers crossed.
The best denoiser in PhotoLab 8, DeepPrime, may not work with astro images. It is AI-reliant, and it seems to need (or want) to know what camera it is working with. With stacked images, this info doesn't come up and the DeepPrime tab won't activate. Let me know if it works for you. But if it doesn't, NoiseXterminator and the denoiser in GraXpert are pretty good.
Thank you for your help
looks like a great piece of astro editing software. I'm curious how it will work on pulling dust from reflection nebula. Something like Pleiades, where it can be difficult to keep the blues of the main nebula but also pull out all that ribbony dust around it. Or even dark nebula, to get that dust to pop. On your other video you covered a bit about that and it got me thinking about how I could use this tool for some of my projects.
I just posted a video with a brief demo of the workflow. The space around is dark, and the lighter material is the dust and gas coalescing into the darker, colder regions. By leaving the space dark and selectively leaving the surrounding dust and gas brighter, the dark nebula can be revealed, along with the surrounding structures formed by stellar winds. Only this software has allowed me to do this effectively.
do you need the elite version to do all this or does the essential edition suffice?
You can do a lot of this in the Essentials version but I would honestly recommend the Elite version. You get better masking and tonal control in the Elite version. It was really with the release of PL8 that PhotoLab came to stand out as the superior developing alternative. You can read more about the differences here: www.dxo.com/dxo-photolab/whats-new/
Great video. Am in need of some help - Am trying to do the same and it just won't let me load up an image. It keeps saying that I don't have a DxO module for the camera used to take the shot. In the EXIF data there is no camera detail. My TIF is an uncompressed export from PixInsight. Any suggestions/ideas?
Bear in mind I've only had PL8 under a week, but it only works in TIFF, jpg and raw files. When you load an image, it will look first for the camera and lens to do automatic correction based on the camera/lens combination. However, such default data will not be available for astro cameras and telescopes. Just skip the request and load your image. It'll work fine.
@@SKYST0RY Thanks for responding so quickly. Unfortunately this is not an option for me at present. It flat-out insists on having one of these modules. There is no choosing to not apply a correection module. I'm using the MacOS version. I can't 'load' an image, only select from what is being shown as a folder viewer of the current folder. I'm keen to give this a try but won't risk $229 buying it until I can get past this speed bump.
###### UPDATE - fixed!! I exported as a TIFF from PixInsight - it has to be a 16 bit integer per channel format, no compression. Colour palette info can be embedded. Now off to play with PL8!!!
@@mschmalenbach I was just about to message you back when I saw your reply. I could not get your issue to replicate on my system, so I was unable to figure out a solution. I am glad you found one, and now I see why your situation wasn't working. I never compress my tiff files, and I only save as 16 bit, so I would never have encountered the issue. The only downside to PL8 is you can only use the DeepPrime on raw and DNG images. While FITS files are raw, it is not yet configured for them. I hope they remedy that. I have been looking for a DNG converter, in the mean time.
Which version of PhotoLab8 do you recommend? The Elite version has noise reduction, is this something that works for AP images, or is starxterminator better?
The Elite version, definitely. Better masking, hue ranging, tonal control, etc. However, the DeepPrime denoising, while excellent, only works on RAW file formats. You can read more about the differences between Elite and Essential here: www.dxo.com/dxo-photolab/whats-new/
BTW did you use the 533 Mono?
Yes. Until I get the second observatory built, it will be the only imaging camera in operation.
@@SKYST0RY but it is a great camera, i have the 533 MM fromPlayer One
@@RigoFromSpain Absolutely. I'll probably replace my Uranus-C with another Ares camera. Probably just color, though, since it sits on the little refractor.