This City Is Trying to Kick a Family Out of Their Home for Someone Else's Crime
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ย. 2019
- The problem is that Granite City has what it calls a “crime-free” housing ordinance that amounts to a compulsory eviction law. Under the law, if you rent your home in Granite City and any member of your “household” commits a crime-anywhere in the city and, sometimes, anywhere at all-then your landlord is required to evict you. In fact, your landlord can be fined and even lose his rental license if he fails to evict you. That means Jessica and Kenny are on the hook for this past spring’s burglary, even though no one believes they had anything to do with it or even knew about it.
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The Citizens need to evict The CRIMINALS in City Hall!!
Citizens need to stand for a "Crime Free City Hall"
But they won't because if the people stepped up and took them out they would be called criminals and then thugs in blue come take them away anyways
@TheEnd pressure cooker 👹 when evil is present never conform. Don't sign nothing, answer the door. No trespassing signs on all sides. Need fence around property today. Helps knowing when to shoot them on your side. Pissed off America needs to stop lawless thugs running in office.
Your funny. > Citizens need to stand for a "Crime Free City Hall" The town already has a Crime Free law, thats why they are trying to kick out the family that took in the freeloader criminal...
If I'm not mistaken I think the citizens wanted the law was happy with the law and is now pretty upset that the law may go away.
If you own property in a neighborhood and Tenants wreak havoc or become a long-term nuisance what do you think its going to do to your property values, how do you think that's going to affect your children and your general standard of living?
No good deed goes unpunished in the USA.
So True sadly
Not true - fight back and curb you cynicism because we have a great country but we need vigilance to make it Greater, get honest people in office locally and keep an eye on them to make sure they stay honest.
Every single time
@@AleadaA how great is a country that at its highest level of law has legalized the wholesale premeditated killing of unborn children?
So now if ij wins on a case like this it will mean that the homeowners who live next to the houses that are rented to people who constantly do illegal activity in the home must be endured by neighboring homeowners that live there. They must endure the constant police activity.
Even after that tenant moves out, if another tenant like that moves in it can continue like a vicious cycle.
Yes, what I said isn't exactly what took place in this case but that's the way case law is broadly interpreted.
So now someone who gets convicted of murder could be brought back to the home then could be convicted of robbery come back to the home then can get get convicted of rape and can come back to the home as long as they continue being a good graces of the landlord.
If the community as a community doesn't want that then they shouldn't have to put up with it
This is only going to make people all the more unwilling to contact the police if a family member or roommate or friend commits a crime.
And unwilling to help someone in need.
@@helidude3502 the person in need needed to show their appreciation to their host.
The person in question was already homeless, and was going to be homeless again one way or the other.
The parents also needed to focusing on their son and the direction he's traveling
Random Officer: "But but *THEY NEEDS TO TRUST US!* If they don't then we won't have any form of legitimized authority!" 😥
Just goes to show you never want to call the cops EVER unless you want to be victimized or imprisoned.
Well that only applies to some, you saw what took place at the Capitol
@@TruckTaxiMoveIt You mean that 3 hour kerfuffle, which was largely instigated by FBI provocateur's, where no one was armed, and where some windows were broken, and an unarmed woman, who was a veteran, was shot in the neck and killed by some Capital cop with a history of poor gun handling?
Or are you confusing that with the months-long nightly rioting by leftists around the country, in Democratic controlled cities, where two federal courthouses were occupied and burned, as were several police precincts, and Kamala Harris urged folks to bail out any arrested rioters??
Wonder how long it will take before someone realizes that the convict doesn't own the home. Same law would apply to landlords too?
@Nub B Indeed. Cops in Philly can take houses used in crimes under Civil Asset Forfeiture laws.
You are only responsible for your own actions. Not those of others.
This is why I don't believe in "white privilege"
Unless you live in the United States.
Unless you have something they want, like property.
Nothing anyone has said invalidates my original statement.
@@DoubleOddJosh nodody asked you to.
"...nor shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law."
- 5th Amendment of US Constitution.
Writing a statute is not due process. You want their house - you gotta take them court first.
It's not about the house it was about the home -- IJ mislead us in the vid in that regard.
Read the video description.
You can't take someone to court for what someone else did because they aren't a party to the action this a basic fundamental principles of court! The city has zero standing if I remember this they are claiming a contract for housing was violated but you can't be held accountable for any portion of a contract outside of your control! Again basic legal principles! It would be similar to saying that you signed a agreement with a deposit for your rental but because a hurricane damaged the home you don't get your deposit back! There's nothing legal the constitution protects freedom of association it protects helps angels from being illegal it also protects you from getting into trouble simply because you interacted lawfully with someone!
So basically someone else commits a crime, I report them. I get punished
Time to sue Granite City IL.
Sadly, the lesson seems to be: don't help those who need help. And it does not matter that this couple turned the perp in. I sure hope they win. This case is rediculous.
This where 'zero tolerance' leads to. Zero thought; zero compassion; zero justice.
a man of many parts, true.
Wow, just wow. This is what government does, people.
Death to the fbi and all the police for oppressing us. Praise the democrat party
Sheckie Shabang reminder. The fbi and police work for drumpf. This is occurring because of them. We can only resist by voting democrat 2020
Willie Hawaii
This was caused by the Democrats that run that town you dipshit. They controll everything in Illinois. That’s why Illinois is screwed up worse than Calizuela, libtards had a head start in Illinois.
@@williehawaii9967 yes the dems f.... this one up next they are after your guns, so you can no longer defend yourself from such tyranny.
You think that's bad you should see what corporations do
This video is very important as well as informative. It needs to be pointed out that people that are sight-impaired are not able to read what is printed on the screen. Even with my magnifying glass I am not able to read read it. I think someone is being evicted from their home because of criminal activity. Continue to print on the screen but also speak what is being printed. Sight impaired people would greatly appreciate that.
A family is being evicted for having housed a homeless individual who committed a crime while living with them even though he was immediately turned over to the police.
If you can't read what is on the screen, then clearly you shouldn't be on a 'VIDEO' app!!! The words were HUGE on the screen, and were posted long enough that any literate person would be able to read them.
There is also a description of what happened in the video plus a damn link where the whole story is written out in an article for people to read.
Quit your fucking bitching and go read what happened!
That is very rude comment. what you just wrote was that becausesight impaired people cannot read the writing on top of the actual video we should be denied the knowledge that these videos contain. That is despicable. People like you are the reason the disabilities act was created. I did not ask that they stop printing on top of the video. I asked that read the printing. Karma is looking for you.
@@ooaa5243 clearly you read my comment, so you have no trouble reading print on a screen. So, go fuck yourself you snowflake and quit bitching. All the God damn information was printed for you to read in 3 places. If you can't use that, but can read my comments, then the problem is entirely yours.
Charlie Odom - WOW Chuck.... calm down. I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to even respond to the original comment to start with. You disagree with it... move on. Breathe. They have every right to post their issue, and you have every right to disagree with it. There is no need for the hostility. Best Wishes.
1) Has the accused even been convicted of the crime this family is facing eviction for? Not saying he’s not guilty, but this shows how willing lawmakers are to abandon basic civil rights and due process.
2) Would the family even be permitted to rent another home within the city, or would they have to leave it to obtain housing? This is patently unconstitutional.
That’s eff-ing stupid. So if that be the case, than everyone would eventually get get out of their house in that city. C’mon America!
The public officials responsible should be prosecuted for malicious prosecution, attempted grand theft real estate, and every other crime they've committed from their position of trust and authority. We must treat such criminals as severely as their crimes warrant.
Wow is this for real sue the shit out of the city
that is down right logic,
"see something, say something" and you too go to jail
Wow this is crazy. I live in St Louis about 30 mins from Granite City and I was evicted from the house I rented because of a similar "nuisance law"
I rented this house specifically because I was leaving my extremely abusive ex and took my daughter with me. I told no one except my mom where we were moving to. We had only lived there a few weeks when one day while I was at work my ex broke in and scared the crap out of my babysitter and daughter. I think he had someone follow me from work and found where I moved to. Within the next 2-3 months he broke into my house over 13 times. He robbed me, beat me up, broke windows out. I called the police every time it happened and they did absolutely nothing except take him in for a few hours and let him sober up then release with no charges, even though I had a restraining order. I lived in University City in St Louis which apparently has a law that if a house makes over a certain amount of calls to police they are deemed a nuisance property. After 4 months of living in hell wth no help from anyone we were also evicted. Now it's hard to find anywhere to live because I have an eviction on my record when I did nothing wrong.
How disgusting this is. A kind family saves a child from the streets, he falters now an entire family could be on the street. Someone tell me how that makes logical sense to any person? Rhetorical question of course but it's truly mind boggling. The "tolerant" are the most intolerant I've ever witnessed in my life!
Why does this not suprise me. The entire rust belt is driving all the citizes away from there states.
No kidding. Its not enough to deal with no jobs and an opiate epidemic, we have to watch our backs from our own governments
After turning him in, they can hardly be accused of aiding and abetting. Should be a slam dunk, especially if they have their own neighborhood supporting them. If not, it could be a problem. Sounds a little like city backed gentrification could be afoot there. A little more information would be appreciated from this org. These blips of cases they take on are too often not followed up.
Read the description box and follow up at their website.
Government officials need to fear the response of the people.
Let me guess, they are renting and the city is threatening the landlord with fines...
Yep; read the description box.
@@micahmitchell517 Thanks for pointing that out. I found this video on a 3rd party site and that was not visible.
This should be an easy one, just go find someone who's committing a crime at city hall and get them all evicted.
If they can kick you out for a crime, these folks should hire a private investigator to look into the city politicians. Chances are they’ve committed some crime at some time.
This is deplorable! She did the right thing and turned him in, and they want to evict her and her family? Something is wrong with those people.
Never ever call the police it will not end well.
You people are wonderful!
Sounds like a big lawsuit that's going to cost those taxpayers a bunch
Never let anyone live in your house who is not a relative. They are impossible to get out and never have any money to pay you for letting them stay there. No good deed goes unpunished
Politicians, government should go to jail for their colleagues or people they know who commits crime daily. See how they like that rule.
Ridiculous they were not harbouring a criminal.
What the hell is wrong with our local and state governing common sense .
I was involved in a hit and run, the guy cut me off and slammed on the brakes, and I hit the back of his truck, then he sped off. So I went after him long enough to get his plate number then called the cops. The cops said it was my fault because I went after him instead of calling them right away. Got a ticket for careless driving and had to pay to get my own car fixed.
run a red light - lose you place of residence, your 5 year old steals candy - you lose your rental. Just because an ordinance has been enacted does not make it legal.
When government can use "common sense" in enforcing and interpreting laws, then we will be truly safe. That being said, common sense has NEVER been a strong virtue of any politician.
True! Unfortunately common sense doesn't appear to be that common anymore. Best Wishes.
No good deed goes unpunished. Especially in a cesspool like illanoise!
licensure is a root problem here.
Let me tell you I drive threw that town and it's a dump... Flooding all the time.. these folk's maybe it's a sign to get out of that crap hole and move elsewhere...
People are always yelling about the federal government overreaching it’s you local and stay government people should be up in arms about.
That such measures could be enacted against these clearly innocent people is the very proof that they have no place existing in law to be enacted!
Ordinance sounds unconstitutional
See what happens when you try to help someone. People will think twice
I Live in Granite City Illinois and This Doesn't Surprise me at All
This ordinance is in violation of the Constitutional prohibition of excessive fines. Since they can't claim the robber as an income tax deduction, he cannot be considered a member of that household. He is a guest. Jessica and Kenny have a civil rights lawsuit opportunity.
All kinds of scammers out there. You can tell they are lying when their stories change daily and you have no way to verify their stories. They are players
even if it was her own child that committed the crime she cannot be kicked out because she did not commit the crime. Treat every individual as an individual.
No good deed shall go unpunished.
Don’t let dirtbags live in your house!
Sheckie Shabang You have to like your own comment because nobody else will?
@Robert Ross
>drug housrs
laws criminalising drugs should be done away with anyway.
> it has a place.
Nah it doesn't. You shouldn't be punished for something other people do period. You don't have to monitor them. You are not their parents.
Unfortunately, constitutional protections are not available for everyone in every instance. And the worst part is you can never know that you are the one who will be excluded from those protections until you are in the midst of their being denied you. And rather than our elected representatives working to see that abuses don't happen, they daily pass more and broader reaching laws that wind up misapplied to the abuse of more law abiding citizens.
One would think that a law of this sort would be unable to be abused, but the law doesn't have eyes to discern who it is enforced against and most district and city attorneys are so overworked, so overtly competitive and so cynical as to push the responsibility of determining the truthfulness of the accused onto the courts rather than assuming the responsibility for throughly investigating criminal allegations. It is good to see an organization who seeks to right injustices but again, there is still a remnant who are left to endure the wrath of broadly written laws and attorneys and bureaucrats who dispassionately enforce effectively unconstitutional laws and ordinances because they have a job to keep secure by enforcing laws against an unsuspecting citizenry.
State of Chicago. Where lawyers and politics go, too learn how to be corrupt.
This is what authorities do when they're given powers like these - they abuse them. It's vital to understanding the mentality of law enforcement that they don't care about right and wrong, they only care about getting results, and ANY result will do. It doesn't matter to them that these people are on their side, if they can get them kicked out, that's a result, a notch on the gun barrel.
Why are city governments so commonly lame like this? These kinds of stories are really discouraging. Crime free neighborhood is really geared towards criminal activity such as drug production and sales, or any other criminal activity that a property is being used to facilitate. It was never meant as a means to remove somebody for making a mistake. There is a big difference between somebody committing a crime, especially somewhere else, and a property being used for criminal activity. This is where overreach becomes a big problem and justice is definitely not being served at all. Thank God we have an organization like you guys.
Granite City is not a viable municipality and should be dissolved
this is ridiculous
At least there are a few good lawyers left, too bad there all in the Institute for Justice and not district attorneys
That's so stupid.
Another all or nothing law which prohibits extenuating circumstances to even be considered.
Just because a law is past does not mean it is a legal law. Only when challenged in a court of law can it be considered a law. I do not believe this law will stand testing and redress will be given to this family.
Yet another terrible policy that continues to exist in certain places. Getting evicted for someone else's crime in not acceptable.
How the fuck is the “crime free ordinance” even a real thing? That’s so bs
Go get them!
Reminds me of those stories you hear about some dope fiend getting busted by the cops while driving his mother's car which she lent him to go to the store or something, so they impound it and essentially steal HER car even though she did nothing wrong.
How can they kick them out they own house anyway BC someone else committed a crime. So if a kid stole a bike the parents lose they house what kind of bullshit is this. I hope these people sue the hell out of this city.
This is just wrong. A family takes in someone in need. Now, government construes law to their advantage. Clean the swamps.
I forget which one of the ferengi rules of aquisition this is.No good deed goes unpunished.
I hope they win and keep their home
Illinois
Nuff said
Ok so if that is even an enforceable law why do section 8 and/or rent subsidized people not get held to the same standards as these people? Punish the workers but not the dead beats???
Do they own their home or have a mortgage on it?
Is the home rented from the city or a housing association?
Did they know the homeless guy was a little shit before they took him in?
My question: why would they want to live in a city with such a bullshit rule anyway?
This is why we have the second amendment
If anyone can answer this, how can you become evicted from a home you own. You can't. Is it public housing? Then I can see it. Otherwise we're not getting the whole story. If they own the home then I can see the issue. But if they don't own the home, well sorry to say it might be tough luck. It must be public housing or some kind of housing program they are involved in. If you own property you can't get evicted. Someone please give me more info if you have it.
Why doesn't IJ ever post updates and outcomes to their videos?
Sometimes, settlements are made with the stipulation that they be kept confidential. However, one of their cases that took place in the city where I live was all over the news when IJ won, and they did post a followup video with their victory.
Unfortunately, another reason why they don't post followups is that sometimes they lose (and maybe don't want to talk about it further). This appears to have happened with the suit in California about the requirement that students in a school to learn how to work with horses have a high school diploma or a GED.
They usually post Updates about the cases on their own website.
No good deed goes un-punished. Someone commits a crime, kick um out and tell the police nothing. These morons will tale any opportunity to steal your property.
If we were to add anything to the Constitution it would be this one thing.
Any infringement on the rights of any citizen of the United States by any citizen who is acting in an official government capacity; the offending citizen acting in a governmental capacity SHALL be held criminally liable and shall lose all benefits, pay, position and authority and be barred from any government position for life upon conviction of said crime. Said convicted citizen SHALL pay for all legal fees, loss in work time, medical fees or any financial losses incurred by the offended citizen in the process of jury trial and conviction. This law SHALL not be construed to be at all applicable to the citizenry at large but to those elected, appointed, or otherwise operating in any official government capacity. Citizens operating in a governmental capacity SHALL maintain their own individual rights and that conviction on the grounds of violation of another citizens rights does not forfeit their right to due process of law. They will be awarded the return of full faith and fellowship of their fellow citizens once they have served their sentence and paid in full their debt to the offended and society at large; with the exception they SHALL never serve in in any governmental capacity again.
Anyway something like that is what I have in mind. It would keep alot of these scum politicians and police in check. At least in my opinion.
I hear a lot of bad things about government in Illinois.
Granite City is wrong to so. This is prejudicial treatment.
wtf.... unbelievable...
Is this not prosocution without due process?
Not understanding how this is in any way legal
That's Bullshit!!!! They turned him in!!!! Let them stay!!!!!!!!!!
so the law is like we want more homeless people on our streets? so maybe everyone works now but someone messes up then everyone around them goes homeless? i guess its not all that bad you'll be able to leave town with your family to search for new housing but you'll end up homeless in another city. triple digits :) when i say its not that bad i meant for the city when the family has to leave their town lol
Of course they do. Those in power who desire to maintain or grow that power always wish to move things toward a state of aristocracy whether they are conscious of it or not. How better to do that than by pushing people bellow them on the social ladder down to reestablish "the peasantry".
That is invasive and wrong.
Ummm... regardless of the details about the friend, the law is unconstitutional. They can't just force you out of your home (it's not clear if they are seizing it or forcing the person to sell) because you committed a crime... that's the job of the courts. You commit a crime, get arrested, get tried and convicted, and go to jail. AFAIK, you *still* have the rights to your property unless it was part of the crime and seized or unless the court has it seized to pay back restitution to the victims of the crime. It's essentially an illegal seizure of property, no? And any crime is supposed to be handled in court - even parking tickets if you choose to fight them. It's like the dumbest zero-tolerance law ever... commit a crime and we will make you homeless, so that you will have to commit more crimes in order to survive and never be able to get back on your feet; or so we can put you into a for-profit prison which we get kickbacks from. Sounds like some naive and stupid Karen had the bright idea that if they just kicked out all the criminals out of town there'll be no more crimes!
Ironically we the public, the people are the problem. We ignore the various politicians we elected at various levels, we complain about them but don't truly hold the accountable. Why because mostly we busy with are lives, so we let the Politicians turn over various issues to the Bureaucracy of the Government be it local, county, state or federal. The Bureaucracy does things based on various reasons of special interest or the public good etc etc, we the people don't think much about it because it hasn't caused anything to harm yours/our individual lives. And when we hear about it we feel bad and hope things work out, again because we are busy individually with are own lives and until it disrupts that bubble we just watch.
Wow! You get it better than anyone else on this posting. How right you are!
@@williamdean4101
If anything Right, Wrong it brings more though to a bigger issue involving the Public, the Government and how's it's no longer for the People, by the People.
Do miss understand there is still a lot of good things here in the USA but they become precarious depending on other's and their agenda.
Move to Canada where people are actually free
Until you call someone by the wrong pronoun.
Free to carry a handgun? Free to be its own sovereign? Freedom to winter in a sub-tropical province? I'm just joking. There's pros and cons for both sides of the border. We both have civil forfeiture and eminent domain. The U.S. allows a corporation to have a vote in political elections. Some people now call us "The Corporate States of America".
And people want more government
And what was the outcome of the case?
Hope they win and buy a bigger house in a better town
They are renting thus subject to this. Read the description box; it clarifies this.
It doesnt matter they shouldn't be kicked out either way, but is it their home or govt subsidized housing? The woman should be getting a reward either way, just wondering.
In my opinion, kicking a whole family out of their house, for a crime 1 person, who is not even a member of their family, but only a friend of one of their kids did, is absolutely wrong. The mother did the right thing by turning the person who did the crime in. But the city has no grounds to kick the family of their own house, the family did nothing wrong. The city is 1 million % wrong.
I believe IJ is leaving out some critical parts.
Does this involve public housing and or use of public funds like housing grants for Section 8 or some other type of state or federal funding?
If so then I am familiar with that policy in which the federal govt by way of the state terminates housing grants or residency within Federal funded housing facilities if it has been proven that the residence has been used for drug or crime activity.
The logic behind it is that there is a very very long waiting list for public housing and public housing grants so there's no need to tolerate nuisances
It is highly likely that the restaurant robbery was the final straw that broke the camel's back and that the household was a general nuisance over and above that specific crime I would not be surprised if that address had numerous interactions with police.
I just read the video description that should have been included in the video itself
Is this in north korea?
China?
Maybe someone doing the judging doesn't like them or they're trying to do it for greed. Shame.
Seriously?
Yeah that's kind of nonsensical, the law doesn't punish anyone one of government or city official cuz they're kids or family members are caught with drugs or other pretty crimes. Turn the tables around and then we can say that's fair...right!
Is this for real?
Update?
Hell I would have left that leftist state years ago ,,but shit ain't right like so many. Other things in Illinois
Stop breaking your oaths. Code can only be law if it does not interfere with the
supreme law. The law that you swore an oath to protect and to serve against all
enemies foreign and domestic. If code interferes with said law it is and was
void Ab Initio at its conception. By enforcing said codes you are guilty of
subversion/treason.