St. Paul and the Mysticism of Suffering
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Thank you, Dr Pitre. Sometimes when one suffers greatly it feels as if one has been abandoned. But it is good to be reminded that our suffering does not mean that Our Lord doesn't love us but that He does and He lives in us. He will provide the graces for us to overcome all suffering.
Amen 🙏
I'm crying, I felt soo guilty because I knew that every time I had problems and seems too heavy I felt so all alone,,, thank you very much Dr. Pitre,, for enlighteng my heart and mind,,, SO SORRY LORD JESUS 😢
Footprints in the sand. Thank you Dr. Pitre for your teachings.
Incredible insight on suffering. Lightbulb moment in my understanding of the purpose of my sufferings as a Christian in union with Christ. More Catholics and other Christians need to know this. I’m sharing this! Thank you Dr Pitre.
"For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
" 1 Cor 2:2
St. Paul Please pray for us that we may grow closer to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ each day Amen.
Brilliant. Thank you
Beautiful
Excellent! Thank you. Blessings!!!🙏🏻
St Catherine of Siena beautifully describes it in her dialogue
Highly recommend Margaret Turek's book _Atonement_ for anyone wishing to go deeper on this topic. After giving the best explanation of Christ's expiation for sin I ever read, she discusses how we participate in Christ's atoning work. Thus are we made 'sons in the Son' as we share in his filial love-suffering for the redemption of sin. Check it out!
Where can we get Margaret's book please? Thanks!
Please read above in my comment and discuss against it.
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Wonderful Dr Pitre..thank you. You explain Catholic truths so that we can understand. No one wants suffering but it's good to teach us so we understand and not feel abandoned when we suffer. God bless you.
What a great explanation
Excellent teaching. Absolutely enjoy this channel.
Thank you, Dr. Pitre!
Suffering is hard. Thank you Dr Pitre
One of the best sermons iver ever heard, a lot to take in.
Wow, that was amazing, thank you! I'm going to reconsider my Christian walk because of this video. God blesd
Thank you, this answers a question I had about the suffering of Christ when He had already risen and ascended yo Heaven. 🙏
Dr. Pitre, my our parish deacon introduced us at our book study to St. Paul, written by the late Pope Emeritus Benedict. Beautiful written, I think you would enjoy it!
This was revealed to me in a very deep sense during a visit to Holy Confession after a long abstinence. Father told me to look at the crucifix hanging on the wall and asked me what I saw, besides the wounds of Christ.
This is a very good one for me. As I help clients with anxiety and internal emotional suffering, it's also important to discern unnecessary or self inflicted suffering and suffering that helps one to lean on God
Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!
So interesting! Thank you 🙏🏼 ❤
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Beautiful explanation, Brant! Thank you! We have another argument for our participation in Christ's suffering to propose. Our participation in his suffering makes additional sense, if we consider that we're allowed to participate in the life of the Holy Trinity through the grace we're given. We're allowed to participate in God's creation of new human life through our cooperation in procreation. Why would he not also allow us to participate in his suffering? As you pointed out, Jesus actually invited us to "take up our cross and follow him" so that we may also be able to someday participate in his Resurrection.
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Amen 🙏
Very well explained about sufferings a subject that can be complex and so unorthodox
I really appreciate your thoughtful and careful handling of the Testimony of God.
incredible analysis , thank you so much !
What bible are you using , id like to know , which one are you referencing from. Thank you
Dr. Pitre, thank you for your wonderful talks and explanations about the Bible. I learned and I'm learning a lot from you and for this I'm grateful. I have one question and I hope will get my answer. The suffering that Paul speaks about in this verse is the suffering he underwent for the church, he was mocked, his trials and imprisonment, persecuted, flogged and stoned nearly to death. this kind of the suffering is what lacking in Christ affliction for the growth of the church, having Paul bearing the marks of Christ it means that he was physically scarred for the sake of the church as a missionary. However, being sick, or facing money difficulties or going through family issue pain, or even undergoing surgery,,, these things cannot be attributed to the suffering of christ for the sake of His body the church. isn't that right?
There's the dogma of supernatural merit that we can earn for ourselves or for another soul while on earth or in purgatory. That merit can be increased bringing us to higher state of glory/sanctfying grace in heaven. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been any purpose in Lent and Christ spending 40 days in the desert..
Would suffering from diseases be suffering for the cause of Christ? Or would it only be the suffering for the gospel’s sake that is for the cause of Christ?
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Dr Pitre, St JPII in Salvificis Doloris apostolic letter says the redemption of Christ is complete ("It is finished" Jn 19:30). Redemptive suffering seems to only belong to Christ although it is a Mystery as you say.
This is my interpretation for discussion: Christ initiated two expansion waves of His Mercy (like drops in the ocean of Old Creation). First (in time), God (trinity) sets in motion the wave of the New Creation with Jesus baptism in the Jordan. Later, the wave of Redemption on the Cross for our salvation where the Old Creation passed away (finished). Both waves are continuing to exert its power (effects) through time. They have joined and are overlapped and expanding.
The 'redemptive wave' brings the joy of the good news that we were saved (from death), for past (Jesus preaches in hell before resurrection), present and future generations, to the end of time through the Church.
The 'New creation wave' brings suffering as we need to cooperate in the establishment of the Kingdom of God on Earth through the Church as well, i.e. our participation on Christ's Cross in building to the Kingdom of God, that is Love.
Love being restored in a fallen world can makes us certainly suffer (as Paul), as it is working in concupiscence (impossible without Jesus) and against evil powers. Our Cross seems that of doing the will of God (obedience even to the point of death) as Christ did on the Cross to cooperate in installing (restoring) the New Creation (Paradise lost).
For me, that seems the reason of the confusion of sufferings as these waves are seemingly overlapped. If we visualise these two waves, we can better understand the reason why suffering of the truly Christian is joyful, because 'redemptive joy' and 'new creation suffering' are kind of overlapped.
There may be a temptation for us to label and accept in our lives certain sufferings as redemptive (placing ourselves in the place of Christ?).
Finally, suffering without joy may be pointing that is unnecessary, not redemptive, and does not help for the New Creation. This type of suffering certainly comes from the Devil, as his job since the fall is to make us suffer and be damned (sin, death, suffering). All this suffering was healed by Jesus. Hope it makes sense!
You would also like Balthasar's _The Christian and Anxiety._ He also discusses how there is no sharing in Christ's suffering unless one has shared in Christ's joy. He is also very clear, there is no taking the place of Christ.
Does anyone know what a paragraph is anymore? English wasn’t even close to being my best subject in school but seriously, this is annoying as hell. Just reading this would cause me suffering.
@@michaelibach9063 fair enough! Edited. God bless!
PRAYER TO MARY, QUEEN OF THE ANGELS
[ August Queen of Heaven Prayer ]
An Indulgence of 500 days.
(S. C. Ind., July 8, 1908; S. P. Ap., Mar. 28, 1935)
August Queen of Heaven and Mistress of the Angels, thou who hast received from God the power and the mission to crush the head of Satan: we humbly ask thee to send to us thy heavenly legions so that, under thy command, they may pursue the demons let loose upon the earth, fight them everywhere, vanquish their audacity, and drive them back into the abyss.
“Who is like unto God?”
O good and tender Mother, thou shalt ever be our love and our hope.
O divine Mother, send the Holy Angels to defend us [me] and repel far from us [me] the cruel enemy.
Holy Angels and Archangels, defend and keep us. Amen.
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The faithful are asked to say this prayer frequently and fervently. It is of great importance given the following remarkable background:
[1] The prayer was dictated by the Blessed Mother herself to the holy and venerable priest, Fr. Louis-Édouard Cestac, on January 13, 1863 as a means to combat the powers of Hell.
[2] An exorcism prayer in itself, this is a formidable prayer for “spiritual battle” especially needed for our times when the ravages caused by the fallen angels are everywhere conspicuous and unrelenting.
[3] It is a prayer approved by the Church: It was recommended to the faithful by Pope Pius IX, and later indulgenced by both Popes Leo XIII and Pius X.
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What is it with Pitre and the word mysticism? Everything is mysticism to him. Does he use a crystal ball or pull rabbits out of a hat? Mysticism has to do with magic. Jesus nor any of the Apostles had anything to do with mysticism or magic. Suffering for Christ is not mystic.
People all over the world are suffering for Jesus. They use prayer and worship to get through while they are suffering. Some die for Christ. I truly doubt Pitre has ever gone through any of the kind of pain they have.