I also thought the 24v battery mod made the bass a little clearer, and I thought I heard a little bit of break up from the amp on one of the notes with the preamp boosted. I don't think it made enough of a difference though to justify the assumed added expense and shorter life of the 24v battery. 20+ years ago I had an ESP 5 string with EMG Hz pickups and EMG 3 band preamp. I noticed shortly after purchasing it that when I dug in hard on the lower frets of the E and B string the tone would distort in a not so pleasing way. After doing some research and communicating with EMG I decided to add a second battery to create an 18v circuit. This mod did the same thing in that it gave the bass a little more output and clarity but it also gave the preamp the extra headroom it needed to completely eliminate the distortion problem. That was definitely worth the minor added time and expense.
You the Man Lobster! After watching this, I used a 18V supply for my stompbox-ized John East and it does something similar to what you got. Improves the dynamics and liveliness.
That's an interesting mod. I did notice a cleaner /tighter signal. The preamp doesn't seem to give you much option of availabile tones though imho. It just stays in the mid range with a little flexibility.
Lobster, I hear what you hear. With the preamps centered there is more clarity from the 24 volts. I find however at full cut the output boost is more prominent. At max any difference is less noticeable. I am new to playing Bass(only since July 21). Life long listener, my ears will sharpen with playing experience. So am I on the right track or miss the train entirely.
Have used this on a Jackson JS3 concert bass as well as a Sterling S.U.B. Ray 4,both are bone stock w/original electronics. Increased headroom on both basses with no issues whatsoever.
Hi Lobster, just started watching the video but the bass sounds great in both configurations. I just wanted to point out that on the 24 volt Mod website they don't recommend using the 24 volt Mod on preamps. I'm thinking because it may hurt the preamp. I also have a video on my TH-cam page for this same mod. The batteries also have a much shorter shelf life, they normally last 3 months max. I'm actually switching back to 9 volt before I sell the bass in my video. Haha
Am a tech and one of my go to mods for a J has been EMG Js with 3x9v/27v with no pre amp. Vol, vol, tone or with their active blend. Very big open sound and no clipping or compressing with heavy attack. Have had players who were not "into active sounds" enjoy this load. Nice to be able to get 24 in small form.
Thanks a lot Lobster, interesting, even if with TH-cam compression I am not sure I heard a tremendous différence... I have to try it on my next build (CDN PN5 in P position , Nordstrand MM5.4 in MM position and EMG BTC). anyway I plan to try 18v (2x9v battery either in series or // for 18 or 9V)
Another fantastic video thanks again for your thorough reviews and bass information. Also you’re a funky bass player!!! Now i also want to say that your intro to your videos is addicting . I’ll give you an example so I’m enjoying my dinner this evening and what comes into my head “Salutations Crustaceans” 😂😂 Keep up the good work Brother Lobster!!! Solid!!!
I bought a version of this adapter from eBay for about £8 - I use it to power the EMG PJ set in my Aria SLB-2 from 1989. It's a plywood body but it sounds mega
Hi there Lobster! Glad to see you doing well and uploading, great vid as always! Lately I've had my eyes set on a Paul Reed Smith SE Kesterl bass which is PRS' take on the jazz bass and I wanted to say I'd love to see a review from you to see what you think! I have full trust on your honest opinion since it was thanks to you that I've discovered a lot of amazing brands and models I would've never found out otherwise. Keep up the amazing work and greetings from Argentina! Cheers!
Nice. Better too end and harmonic information. I’d be curious what the difference would sound like in a mix or even in a live setting against a drum kit. Definitely an enhancement to the 2 pre setup (which is really nice btw).
It doesn't give you more volume, necessarily. it should give you more headroom and dynamics. People think the point of more power is to be louder, but that couldn't be further from the truth - sometimes you need to push some air a long distance, but mostly it gives you some space to move around inside your gear instead of being locked or capped on your settings. And sometimes the preamp isn't set up that well and might have originally been designed for the higher voltage but due to whatever constraints they didn't want to put two or three batteries (or a more appropriate rechargeable battery pack) in the final delivery. It's really more about knowing what you have in your hands and what it will respond best to then matching the best solution to the platform as configured. If you don't know what that is, then experiments must be made or send it to someone who has already done that work and can just optimize mods/setup for your instrument.
interesting... although personally I can't risk this mod due to my future setup (hopefully i will get a good tone)and current playing style. I have a 2016 Jackson cbxnt iv which will get new electronics soon (emg P4+JCS and a OBP-3) and because i am playing reggae, i do not need any more treble, besides that I'm not even sure that pre can even take that many volts. regardless ...thanks for the vid Lobster.
So...the other day. I get this groove stuck in my head, and the whole time I’m breaking it down, slowing it down and speeding it up. I’m just taking it apart, adding notes, taking notes away....trying to make sense of it...what is the arrangement, who does it, are there words??? It wont go away!!! Why!!! What is this groove! Why is it so familiar!!! Hours and hours go by...i think i know what it is.....but no....is it??no....yes...no...i know the groove....but why can’t i place it.... Yep......... It’s Lobster “...........and here’s the pickup at 50%..........”
Could you do a video on multi scale basses? The ins and outs, pros and cons, what it actually is, stuff like that? I still don’t really understand them
Didn't hear a difference in sound, and one wouldn't. The main benefit of using more voltage is to give the circuit more headroom so that there is less chance of the signal clipping the rails. A really good test would be attacking the strings very strongly to compare the 9v and 24v. If with 9v there is some clipping or distortion, with 24v that should be minimized or completely cured. Important also to have in mind that clipping and distortion can happen on the input of the Daw or amplifier, but that is a different subject.
I think there's a difference in the transient of the note attack. It's crisper, a bit more pronounced with 24v. Perhaps the response of the amplifier (in terms of dynamics) isn't totally linear and the extra voltage might help remedy this.
A loooooooong time ago when you could see them new on GC shelves... I lust after one still. They're awesome. It's a shame they don't come with a pork pie hat though.
@@LowEndLobster He he he… The hat only came with the first 50 basses they released… They Are really great basses though. I wish I would have bought one when I had the chance. The guy at GC actually got pissed that I didn’t buy it after I played it!
there is no way you are noticing that difference in a mix it is so subtle. you did play very light and i wonder if playing very agressivly like Les Claypool or Ryan Martine would make any difference
I did not hear any difference even with good headphones on. You could try adding another batter pack to bring it up to 48 volts and then I might hear crackling as the wires melt. Cheers!
I put an 18v mod in my Spector euro 5 LX (EMG soap bars). The output was way too much. Even at 0 on my interface, it was still clipping, so I roved it... Then I realised the controls were all at 100% when I should have started at 0 and blend from there. Oops. I'll put it back in tonight and try it again
I think I'm fucking deaf because I can't notice shit besides the 24v feeling a tiny bit cleaner when both the EQs were full on and more responsive (?) Maybe it has an increased gain
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I also thought the 24v battery mod made the bass a little clearer, and I thought I heard a little bit of break up from the amp on one of the notes with the preamp boosted. I don't think it made enough of a difference though to justify the assumed added expense and shorter life of the 24v battery.
20+ years ago I had an ESP 5 string with EMG Hz pickups and EMG 3 band preamp. I noticed shortly after purchasing it that when I dug in hard on the lower frets of the E and B string the tone would distort in a not so pleasing way. After doing some research and communicating with EMG I decided to add a second battery to create an 18v circuit. This mod did the same thing in that it gave the bass a little more output and clarity but it also gave the preamp the extra headroom it needed to completely eliminate the distortion problem. That was definitely worth the minor added time and expense.
I've been using 24 volt mods on all of my stuff for years it makes a huge difference
I'm a big fan of the 24V mod, and recommend it on many of my custom guitar and bass builds.
You the Man Lobster! After watching this, I used a 18V supply for my stompbox-ized John East and it does something similar to what you got. Improves the dynamics and liveliness.
Great video as always! Love to see the new thumbnail style, however I would prefer the older ones as you can get to see the whole bass.
Thanks! This isn't a new style, only did it for this and the Sire P10 vid. Next vids will have regular thumbnail
That's an interesting mod. I did notice a cleaner /tighter signal. The preamp doesn't seem to give you much option of availabile tones though imho. It just stays in the mid range with a little flexibility.
Lobster, I hear what you hear. With the preamps centered there is more clarity from the 24 volts. I find however at full cut the output boost is more prominent. At max any difference is less noticeable. I am new to playing Bass(only since July 21). Life long listener, my ears will sharpen with playing experience.
So am I on the right track or miss the train entirely.
Have used this on a Jackson JS3 concert bass as well as a Sterling S.U.B. Ray 4,both are bone stock w/original electronics. Increased headroom on both basses with no issues whatsoever.
Hi Lobster, just started watching the video but the bass sounds great in both configurations. I just wanted to point out that on the 24 volt Mod website they don't recommend using the 24 volt Mod on preamps. I'm thinking because it may hurt the preamp. I also have a video on my TH-cam page for this same mod. The batteries also have a much shorter shelf life, they normally last 3 months max. I'm actually switching back to 9 volt before I sell the bass in my video. Haha
Thanks for the info! Luckily all the EMG stuff is rated for 27v so we're all good here. But that is a consideration for sure!
Excellent Lobster 🦞🦞
Am a tech and one of my go to mods for a J has been EMG Js with 3x9v/27v with no pre amp. Vol, vol, tone or with their active blend. Very big open sound and no clipping or compressing with heavy attack. Have had players who were not "into active sounds" enjoy this load. Nice to be able to get 24 in small form.
That sounds like a killer setup! I will have to revisit this but only powering a single component like a pickup set.
Not really. I find it pretty comfortable. YMMV
Thanks a lot Lobster, interesting, even if with TH-cam compression I am not sure I heard a tremendous différence... I have to try it on my next build (CDN PN5 in P position , Nordstrand MM5.4 in MM position and EMG BTC). anyway I plan to try 18v (2x9v battery either in series or // for 18 or 9V)
Another fantastic video thanks again for your thorough reviews and bass information. Also you’re a funky bass player!!!
Now i also want to say that your intro to your videos is addicting . I’ll give you an example so I’m enjoying my dinner this evening and what comes into my head “Salutations Crustaceans” 😂😂
Keep up the good work Brother Lobster!!!
Solid!!!
Thank you so much!
I bought a version of this adapter from eBay for about £8 - I use it to power the EMG PJ set in my Aria SLB-2 from 1989. It's a plywood body but it sounds mega
The difference is very subtle, as would be expected. For an easy mod, it might be worth doing if the preamp is up to it. Thanks Lobster.
Thanks Philip!
Always good like the rest 👍 continue !😉☕
Hi there Lobster! Glad to see you doing well and uploading, great vid as always!
Lately I've had my eyes set on a Paul Reed Smith SE Kesterl bass which is PRS' take on the jazz bass and I wanted to say I'd love to see a review from you to see what you think! I have full trust on your honest opinion since it was thanks to you that I've discovered a lot of amazing brands and models I would've never found out otherwise. Keep up the amazing work and greetings from Argentina! Cheers!
Nice. Better too end and harmonic information. I’d be curious what the difference would sound like in a mix or even in a live setting against a drum kit. Definitely an enhancement to the 2 pre setup (which is really nice btw).
It doesn't give you more volume, necessarily.
it should give you more headroom and dynamics.
People think the point of more power is to be louder, but that couldn't be further from the truth - sometimes you need to push some air a long distance, but mostly it gives you some space to move around inside your gear instead of being locked or capped on your settings.
And sometimes the preamp isn't set up that well and might have originally been designed for the higher voltage but due to whatever constraints they didn't want to put two or three batteries (or a more appropriate rechargeable battery pack) in the final delivery.
It's really more about knowing what you have in your hands and what it will respond best to then matching the best solution to the platform as configured.
If you don't know what that is, then experiments must be made or send it to someone who has already done that work and can just optimize mods/setup for your instrument.
24V hahahaha that is insane! great video Mr.Lobster .
You are spot on with your thoughts. I don’t feel it is really worth it to change it but sounds good
Both ways sound great to me maybe a touch more oomph with the 24v but only a touch
interesting... although personally I can't risk this mod due to my future setup
(hopefully i will get a good tone)and current playing style.
I have a 2016 Jackson cbxnt iv which will get new electronics soon (emg P4+JCS
and a OBP-3) and because i am playing reggae, i do not need any more treble,
besides that I'm not even sure that pre can even take that many volts.
regardless ...thanks for the vid Lobster.
So...the other day. I get this groove stuck in my head, and the whole time I’m breaking it down, slowing it down and speeding it up. I’m just taking it apart, adding notes, taking notes away....trying to make sense of it...what is the arrangement, who does it, are there words??? It wont go away!!! Why!!! What is this groove! Why is it so familiar!!! Hours and hours go by...i think i know what it is.....but no....is it??no....yes...no...i know the groove....but why can’t i place it....
Yep.........
It’s Lobster “...........and here’s the pickup at 50%..........”
LOL! My phantom grooves ahahaha
Ha ha ha! You too eh?
Could you do a video on multi scale basses? The ins and outs, pros and cons, what it actually is, stuff like that? I still don’t really understand them
Please review the Zon Sonus Billy Gould model as well as a Mike Lull bass. I had two Zon's but dying to play the BG model.
More depth to the signal w/24 volt
We need a video… Your favourite bass(es). 5 or 6…
Didn't hear a difference in sound, and one wouldn't. The main benefit of using more voltage is to give the circuit more headroom so that there is less chance of the signal clipping the rails. A really good test would be attacking the strings very strongly to compare the 9v and 24v. If with 9v there is some clipping or distortion, with 24v that should be minimized or completely cured. Important also to have in mind that clipping and distortion can happen on the input of the Daw or amplifier, but that is a different subject.
Thank you De Castro! Great info! I will keep this in mind
I think there's a difference in the transient of the note attack. It's crisper, a bit more pronounced with 24v. Perhaps the response of the amplifier (in terms of dynamics) isn't totally linear and the extra voltage might help remedy this.
Love the mod.
I recently heard that the dingwall “sound” is that of a reverse p. Is that true? Can you compare the dingwall to a reverse p you have?
Yes! I forget if they're forward or reversed but the Dingwall pickups are indeed P's. Same with the MTD USA soaps, they're reversed P
Have you played the fender Marcus miller jazz bass made in Japan the discontinued one ? If so any opinions?
A loooooooong time ago when you could see them new on GC shelves... I lust after one still. They're awesome. It's a shame they don't come with a pork pie hat though.
@@LowEndLobster He he he… The hat only came with the first 50 basses they released…
They Are really great basses though. I wish I would have bought one when I had the chance. The guy at GC actually got pissed that I didn’t buy it after I played it!
the mod has a little more attack and harmonic boost, to my ears. i think a decent amp can coax similar sounds out of the bass without the mod.
you can modify a powerbank for 24 v ourput
there is no way you are noticing that difference in a mix it is so subtle. you did play very light and i wonder if playing very agressivly like Les Claypool or Ryan Martine would make any difference
I did not hear any difference even with good headphones on. You could try adding another batter pack to bring it up to 48 volts and then I might hear crackling as the wires melt. Cheers!
Thanks! Yeah I really didn't hear much of a difference either.
Vee man from slipknot apparently uses 48 volts in his Status basses so it is possible
Alright Alright
More output that's about it.
And what about a mod of 27volt!!!
What is the 18v Mod for the EHB?-
Almost hear some sub harmonic distortion on the low string at full boost didn't sound bad in fact I dig it cause it makes it growl just a little more.
Lobster will my emg bqc hz work with standard balance pot? I just fried the abc solder point lol
I think you need a 25k
@@LowEndLobster balance pot? I had mn250k since my pickup is passive
Oh i didn't see the hz bit. Yeah 250!
I put an 18v mod in my Spector euro 5 LX (EMG soap bars). The output was way too much. Even at 0 on my interface, it was still clipping, so I roved it... Then I realised the controls were all at 100% when I should have started at 0 and blend from there. Oops. I'll put it back in tonight and try it again
The power supply has nothing to do with the output voltage. You are NOT getting more output with 18v vs 9v.
Well I can't tell the difference?
Yeah I didn't really hear much if anything. In editing I maybe noticed a hint more clarity but it could also be in my head. Still, now we know!
I think I'm fucking deaf because I can't notice shit besides the 24v feeling a tiny bit cleaner when both the EQs were full on and more responsive (?) Maybe it has an increased gain
I don't hear much, if any, difference.
I couldn't tell the difference.
If u close your eyes and just listen u can hear ...
No difference
Lol yeah it's definitely not the most dramatic difference (if any honestly). However now we know!
I didn't hear any differences to be honest