I was reading a masters thesis about graffiti and she had a quote that said, "if you put a pen in any child's hand, naturally, he will go to the wall" I love that because it seems that there is something in human nature that wants a bigger canvas, aka the wall
It's not art if the only graffiti around are the names of local street gangs scribbled on a public library wall -.- Big difference. You wanna know what was tagged on that wall??? "BNHX13" in black spray paint. That was all. You call that shit art???
Big Gus yep, it's a form of personal deliberate expression which can be evaluated by the level of technique, creativity and skill involved, thus making it an art form... just because you don't like it, or don't get it, doesn't make it non-art, it just makes it art you don't get or like... of course if you mean "fine"art or "accepted" art then sure you can argue that a tag on the wall is not that... But lets look at why i think it's art: not only is it obvious an expression (which is all i need for something to be consider art) but there is also technique, skill and talent involved... the writer spends many hours/months/years honing their letter forms and dexterous control... they study other writers, they try different mediums, it's basically akin to calligraphy but done under intense situations (even life threatening) and yes there are some writers that are better than others, but bad art doesn't make it non-art...
I love graffiti- even just quotes and tags. However, I think it is wrong to deface historic buildings and people's homes and businesses. Otherwise, I always think that a graffitied wall will always look better than a blank one. It's like going through an art gallery that is less refined.
@@j.warburton5269 dont know why my six month old comment got two replies in a day, but im definitely not trying to push any opinions onto anyone. i can totally understand why some people don't like graffiti, but for me personally it just makes walks more colorful and interesting.
I think boundaries SHOULD be established; but boundaries also shouldn’t dominate you or your ability to express yourself. Overall, there needs to be more priority for artists to express themselves, not only as artists; but as people
Sometimes when I read youtube comments they feel like it's virtual vandalism. I guess there those who just label walls and there are those who make art.
this is dumb. TH-cam comments cannot be vandalism. even if something harsh or unpleasant is said, it is not the same as destroying a company's trains or a piece of architecture. I am an artist myself, but the level of entitlement it takes to willingly deface property that is not your own is unreal. vandalism is a crime. I have no problem with graffiti, because it does not have to be on someone else's property. it can be done on your own or on cardboard or something. defacers should not be given a public platform like this.
Michael Sanders I highly recommend the video "Is the internet a public place" by Idea Channel. I coincidentally wrote an academic research paper last semester dealing with the part of that premise which would probably explain my view on comment wall being inheriting private.
I feel that modern graffiti is more an unseen performance art form than a static visual form. It's about the stealth, skill, and speed of the artist's performance than it is about the finished work that the public later sees.
NOEK Absolutely! I don’t buy this narrow perspective of “graffiti art.” I’ve grown up around graffiti writers for over 10 years and this doesn’t capture a common perspective of the actual graffiti community.
I guess graffiti being art depends on how much thought is put into it and how it makes the viewers feel like there's some meaning to it and not some mindless scribbling.
i dont know if art is necessary based on its perception by outsiders. sure thats one reason to make art, but pieces of work can also be labelled art if the artist has, like you said, put their personal feelings into it or makes the artist feel something. music for example, may sound horrible to someone but was created under a specific circumstance that expresses the creators emotions. same thing with graffiti, seen as destruction and arbitrary scribble to some but could be an expression a feelings towards/of politics, humor, anger etc etc. in a unique way.
since when does art have to obey the law? art shapes our culture, and can alter the course of history. art is something greater than law. why would you only recognize art when it's been endorsed by society?
not just anything can be art.but graffiti is art. the most famous works today were the equivalent of graffiti back in their day because they were unconventional and went against what society thought was right.
The first form a graffiti was in 27 Ad when I young man named brian who wrote "romanes eunt Sonia" as a form of rebellion against then Roman rule at the time. this original piece graffiti or what it became known as at the time, graffitus, is what created such a huge art form in your modern civilisation. thanks Brian.
I don't get how people can dislike such a great video like this. Nothing offensive, nothing negative, just pure insightful life lessons. Just so long as the well minded outnumber the dislikers to such a degree makes it alright. Opinions?
Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with you. You see, Ted-Ed covered up not mentioning the history of modern-day graffiti as we know it and reduced it to only including the name of "Taki 183" on the visuals only for a couple of seconds, who is basically its inventor by a seemingly "Thought out" debate about the concept of graffiti without talking about its proper history. This is a serious shortcoming here, it does not teach you anything about hip-hop culture, of which it is an element, not to even mention Banksy. It's pathetic that such valuable knowledge is undermined, only because it comes from the streets it is made less valid.
I think the biggest difference is the purpose for creating the piece. Did you just want to do a quick doodle or name for the rush of getting caught, or did you want to make a statement and ensure it will be seen?
People have different reason why they tag. Sometimes they wanna share their opinions, maybe want people to recognize ur street name or maybe u just do it for fun. They're isn't really a common reason
if I spend all my money in a new house including the costs of the wall painting and etc, I would hate to have someone drawing his own shit on my wall. I think it is indeed art, but it doesn't justify damaging someone's property.
It's about how much effort people put in it. If it means something or is creative i think its art. But if it's some dumb statement about some soccer team thats vandalism.
Graffiti *is* one of the 4 fundamentals of the Hip Hop culture. 1) Graffiting 2) Deejaying 3) Breakdancing 4) Emceeing To say that Graffiti doesn't need to be related to hip hop is like asking if math is related to science. Obviously today, people that do graffiti might associate it with different forms of music, but this is not how everything begun and also we need to clarify here, that we are talking about Graffiti in particular and not for some other form or street art. Graffiti is a form of street art, but not every form of street art is Graffiti.
My town, I feel, embodies this struggle between the accepted and immoral nature of graffiti. Whereas we do experience a lot of senseless 'tagging' done by younger wannabe vandals we also have arrangements that range from something a small as a homeowner to as large as city hall organizing a city wide project where graffiti is used to decorate public and private property alike. Although I personally don't like graffiti my former classmates would argue that graffiti has a different reputation here, even to the extent that my school had an entire class devoted to graffiti art.
It's funny how people are like "Uh, graffiti is not art, they just scribble shit" but pictures that are just plain grey are sold for thousands of dollars to museums. Like, graffiti is art. You don't have to like it for it to be art. I could draw a simple line and declare it art because "art" just means something that is done on purpose but doesn't necessarily serve a purpose. Therefore graffiti is art. It's still vandalism if done on public or not self-owned objects/properties though.
right now, in Italy graffiti is out of hand. You can come to Rome, Milan, Naples etc. and what will you see in the streets is pure vandalism. There are some graffiti that are very artistic and should be on the streets, But most of the graffities are a kind of vandalism.
If we're talking modern graffiti culture, yes, it is vandalism first and foremost. And that is what makes it amazing. When one does graffiti they are vandalizing with art. Its illegal and unathorized art.
Art is supossed to intrigure you. Dance, painting, singing and writing along side of so many other arts.. it is those things that are the ultimate forms of self expression. Art is a human beings ultimate form of self expression. The ability to create art is what seperates us from the animals. Art must be true and raw and real. Music is a reflection of people. Don't mask your true feelings in the creation of art no matter which one that may be. If you are not true to the nature of the arts you are not a true artist. Graffiti is a form of self expression. No matter how raw that may be, it shouldn't be a crime as long as it reflects society. Art reflects life and life is a butterfly. You can not ever put a butterflies in a jar. Butterflies are free.
Sorry for coming off as offensive, that was not my intention. They did not have spray paint, that was not invented yet. They likely used markers of sorts and paint.
From Sega's Jet Set Radio/Jet Grind Radio (2000) Graffiti is art. However, graffiti as an act of vandalism is a crime. Every state/province has vandalism laws that apply to graffiti, and local entities such as cities and counties have anti-graffiti ordinances. Violation of these laws can result in a fine, probation, or a jail sentence.
Graffiti writers don’t write on their own property apart from to practice. Writers who know what their doing sometimes also don’t go tagging in their own neighborhood so that they keep their home address anonymous.
I know that there are some really nice graffiti out there, but the ones I'm used to is nothing but straight up vandalism. It's not art when what's tagged on the wall is hate, profanity, and the names of local street gangs. Don't do that shit on my wall or any public and private property. Do it where it can be better appreciate or where no one cares like a skate park or a flood control channel like the L.A. River.
Im really tired of this "Vandalism or art" argument. It's obviously both. Art is an expression and Vandalism is the destruction or alteration of something the vandal doesn't own..IT'S BOTH
I have just started filming some of the best street art walks in Europe on our youtube channel - there's no ad's or agenda - like this TED talk, just an appreciation. So thanks I really enjoyed the video and have subscribed.
respect to the ancient greek and romans and other cats of antiquity who wrote their name, respect to cornbread and the philly style, respect to new york writers representing their street and getting up on trains, respect to blek le rat & invader for their characters, respect to mastiff dog for pichacao and those crazy freeclimbers, respect to computer nerds cranking out textmode styles on BBS, love and respect to all that get up, even if you utilize your acquired skills for 'non-insider' street art. for something that is not appreciated by the world, all we have is mutual love and respect and a hierarchy of rules to follow. keep it real. scribo ergo sum.
My personal take is that no matter where it is done, or what form it takes it is art , weather it be poltical messaging street art or a tag , the only thing i dont agree with is writting something explicity hateful such as insulting minorities a swastiki or using unessicarly insluting language
I remember back when I was 16, the owner of this building hired a company to paint its wall. Big job, brand spanking new paint. Later that night the neighborhood kids spent hours drawing and writing their names on the wall. I was absolutely horrified. The thing that I noticed is that these kids, 13 to 16 years old, didn't make any mental connections that someone just spent a lot of money painting their property, their mind was more like, "Oh cool, this perfect to draw graffiti. Ever since then I associate graffiti with low IQs.
That's your respond? Close minded because I was horrified over some guy instantly losing thousands of dollars after hiring a bunch of guys to paint his building? I would call you low IQ, and narrow minded, and closed minded. Perhaps a criminal record since you can't associate that ruining something that belongs to someone else for your own person pleasure at that moment is very selfish.
I feel sad for you; thinking everyone that does graffiti is automatically has low IQ. Graffiti is only for those who are open minded, to explain it to someone who doesn't understand something and therefore hates it, is a waste of my time.
And you don't see the other point of view. Somebody has property, someone else comes and defaces it? To me that's close minded, and unable to see the point of view of others. Self focused. An artist is someone who can do things like drawing, make music, but you also have to separate those abilities with an act against somebody else property, especially after seeing that someone just wasted thousands of dollars specifically renovating that property. And most these people are not artist, they're just writing their name, or doing drawings that they could have done on a piece of paper, and looks just as bad as people who don't draw.
Writers do not write on peoples' personal belongings, cars and houses. Writing on a building for example, is ''ok'' in writers' eyes because not ONE direct person is paying for the damage. It is different, however, when ''writers'' paint small businesses. Then, ONE person would pay for the damage unlike painting a building that is run by a cooperation. Side note: Cooperations run the world and will contribute to the end humanity. Many writers hate the system and cooperations and ''rebel'' against them. Writers realize that what they do is vandalism and art. Some writers think everything is temporary and there is no need to be materialistic and want to live life their way because you only have one opportunity. Again, it is very hard to try to explain to someone who doesn't agree with graffiti, explain how some writers think. I agree it is selfish and it is vandalism. But to me, there's an art in that selfishness and vandalism that is called graffiti.
As SEEN godfather of Graffiti said, graffiti writing has nothing to do with hip hop, same is my thinking cause in Greece i started graffiti writing back at 1984 when hip hop did not exist in my country!
Maybe if it's on your own wall, it's art. If it's on my wall, it's vandalism. If I catch the vandal in the act of doing it, they have to answer to my security guards, Smith and Wesson.
It can be both. If you're painting or drawing on property that you don't own then that is graffiti. However some graffiti is artistic, such as the stuff Banksy does or the large murals that get painted. The stupid tags that you see on walls it just plain graffiti.
Painting on other people's property is vandalism. Would want someone spraying paint on your house, car, book bag, coat, your door? People don't think about it until its their property. Solution? Buy a canvas.
Easy answer. Vandalism. If its not yours you cannot deface it. Only artists seem to have a problem understanding property ownership until one of their designs gets defaced or ripped off.
+yüng Tohav You seem to be extremely upset as you post a ton of '''''''rude'''''''' comments as responses what's the matter little guy? need ur blanket?
Thank you. The entire debate about it being art or vandalism is stupid. It's certainly a form of art but it's also vandalism if you do it on someones else property. You're completely in your rights to do graffiti if you own the wall or have got permission from the owner. Otherwise it's destruction of someone else property no matter how beautiful it is.
whitepiano23 That's like telling someone that got stabed. Just recover from the wound and don't prosecute the offender. Or telling the vicitm of an arson to just buy a new house. Also grafiti can be hard to rub off and you might have to do it every day. If you really liike grafiti that much. Let people do it on your walls.
Granted graffiti done right can be art with respected permission. But if you look at my downtown buildings, well, It just paints the picture your living in the slums. Fly a plane and spend some time looking at downtown Jacksonville. You would think we were living in the purge. There is no moderation at all. It's everywhere and it makes me scared to go there. O - O it's horrifying.
Graffiti is both, I see no contradiction, for example, certain Graffiti while made illegally, could be considered "historic" and thus could be given protection even if it was made illegally, something that has been done and has precedent, of course I prefer the civil rights approach and saying well the owners can get rid of it and those who did it probably should be deterred from doing it.
Graffiti and street art are not at all the same, sure they both use paint and do it on walls and stuff, but thats like saying a chef is the same as a knife killer, they both use knives right so they are the same thing.
*Is it art? Is it vandalism? No. It's both.* *Graffiti is, the art of vandalism* *Graffiti is street art, but street art, is not necessarily Graffiti* That means, that there are other kinds of street arts that are not Graffiti. Graffiti is: To get your name up and make it stay there. Simple as that. Everything that doesn't contain your name, is not Graffiti. Graffiti is something more than street art. *It's a way of life*. Its philosophy. If this was a real wall. This comment would not be a Graffiti. But it could very well look allot like it. But it could be something else, Maybe another form of street art.
I honestly feel like the should have more public art opportunities and public walls for garaffiti. A lot of kids graffiti illegal cause they naturaly want to do something like they should but can't find and legal oppurtunities. And honestly graffiti is better than thongs like drugs and gangbanging. People complain about deliquentry youths, but honestly, we are often just looking for something to do and the legal stuff is too exclusive or expensive.
"too expensive"? A quick google search shows that a 20-count box of sidewalk chalk is $2 and a *single can of spray paint* is worth $7 (of course the prices may vary from place to place, but I doubt the price difference makes the chalk more expensive). And don't tell me that chalk is a bad medium, people can do amazing stuff with chalk and the best part is *_it eventually washes away_* so any tacky "art" they make won't be anyone's problem for more than about a week.
An anonymous person, vadalizing private property, to force others into proximity with their opinion that they are not intelligent enough to disceminat legally. It could be a strong possibility that what a graffiti writer writes is in all likelihood useless, why else would a person have to resort to such a method.
Is it vandalism to print an image off the internet and then stick it on the front window display on a shop like HMV or a similar shop, obscuring one of their adverts?
Well, if it's on private property (like the shop window), then yes, it could be considered vandalism. The owners would probably be especially pissy if the aforementioned "image off the internet" was something tacky that drove customers away. Bottom line, just get the owner's permission. If they say no, back off, if not, great, you can put your meme in the window display.
ART. I have rules no small or private houses and I don't involve politics racism etc. Only names or people and it must look decent if it doesn't then practice at home
I was reading a masters thesis about graffiti and she had a quote that said, "if you put a pen in any child's hand, naturally, he will go to the wall" I love that because it seems that there is something in human nature that wants a bigger canvas, aka the wall
Can I know where can I read this?
Piggybacking off of @mirrafes, could you link us to that thesis? I'm intrigued
@@jaboijiraff I’m trying to find the thesis but it’s been so long! If I find it I’ll link it!
@TheKayPitt any luck? Doing my MA in Fine Art at the moment and could really benefit from reading this
@@IllusionistBeatsOfficial I have tried so hard to find this. Surely they didn’t take it down.
Feels like this person is more of a fan of street art than graffiti.
Yep
same thing
It's not art if the only graffiti around are the names of local street gangs scribbled on a public library wall -.-
Big difference.
You wanna know what was tagged on that wall??? "BNHX13" in black spray paint. That was all.
You call that shit art???
Fonts can be considered art. :P
Big Gus yep, it's a form of personal deliberate expression which can be evaluated by the level of technique, creativity and skill involved, thus making it an art form... just because you don't like it, or don't get it, doesn't make it non-art, it just makes it art you don't get or like...
of course if you mean "fine"art or "accepted" art then sure you can argue that a tag on the wall is not that...
But lets look at why i think it's art: not only is it obvious an expression (which is all i need for something to be consider art) but there is also technique, skill and talent involved... the writer spends many hours/months/years honing their letter forms and dexterous control... they study other writers, they try different mediums, it's basically akin to calligraphy but done under intense situations (even life threatening) and yes there are some writers that are better than others, but bad art doesn't make it non-art...
I love graffiti- even just quotes and tags. However, I think it is wrong to deface historic buildings and people's homes and businesses. Otherwise, I always think that a graffitied wall will always look better than a blank one. It's like going through an art gallery that is less refined.
LOL Ok
Yeah cities should graffiti walls themselves to get that compton aesthetic everyone loves lol
@@j.warburton5269 dont know why my six month old comment got two replies in a day, but im definitely not trying to push any opinions onto anyone. i can totally understand why some people don't like graffiti, but for me personally it just makes walks more colorful and interesting.
@@j.warburton5269 why are you laughing?
I think boundaries SHOULD be established; but boundaries also shouldn’t dominate you or your ability to express yourself. Overall, there needs to be more priority for artists to express themselves, not only as artists; but as people
The narrator has the perfect surname for this.
I was just about to comment that!
Imagine the thing going with vaporwave
Ur a genius
I find it ironic that a video about wall art is made by a person with the last name of wall.
You mean coincidental
I was thinking the same thing!
+Tina Rackliffe No I mean Ironic. Yes it is a coincidence but it's more ironic than anything.
It would be ironic if her name was Kelly Grafittisucks
I find it ironic that a TED-ed fan doesn't know the meaning of ironic when TED-ed made three videos about it.
Sometimes when I read youtube comments they feel like it's virtual vandalism. I guess there those who just label walls and there are those who make art.
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Applause. You sir have made the comment of the day. Great and interesting insight.
+Dirt Bag vandalism*
this is dumb. TH-cam comments cannot be vandalism. even if something harsh or unpleasant is said, it is not the same as destroying a company's trains or a piece of architecture. I am an artist myself, but the level of entitlement it takes to willingly deface property that is not your own is unreal. vandalism is a crime. I have no problem with graffiti, because it does not have to be on someone else's property. it can be done on your own or on cardboard or something. defacers should not be given a public platform like this.
Michael Sanders I highly recommend the video "Is the internet a public place" by Idea Channel. I coincidentally wrote an academic research paper last semester dealing with the part of that premise which would probably explain my view on comment wall being inheriting private.
It's about perspective. Im sure most would feel different if it were their wall. And it was an image or message they didnt agree with.
I feel that modern graffiti is more an unseen performance art form than a static visual form. It's about the stealth, skill, and speed of the artist's performance than it is about the finished work that the public later sees.
This ain’t it chief
@@stevenf5902 u sure
NOEK Absolutely! I don’t buy this narrow perspective of “graffiti art.” I’ve grown up around graffiti writers for over 10 years and this doesn’t capture a common perspective of the actual graffiti community.
I guess graffiti being art depends on how much thought is put into it and how it makes the viewers feel like there's some meaning to it and not some mindless scribbling.
Fuck off
+Head Like A Fucking Orange Wtf man, he made a point
Lol, someone must have spray tagged a penis to his house's wall
In my city it does nothing but ruin historical buildings and landmarks.
i dont know if art is necessary based on its perception by outsiders. sure thats one reason to make art, but pieces of work can also be labelled art if the artist has, like you said, put their personal feelings into it or makes the artist feel something.
music for example, may sound horrible to someone but was created under a specific circumstance that expresses the creators emotions.
same thing with graffiti, seen as destruction and arbitrary scribble to some but could be an expression a feelings towards/of politics, humor, anger etc etc. in a unique way.
since when does art have to obey the law? art shapes our culture, and can alter the course of history. art is something greater than law. why would you only recognize art when it's been endorsed by society?
and that's why art has no value.
if anything can be art, then art means nothing.
@ariel m, Because we just can't draw on other people's house or public bulidings without permission.
not just anything can be art.but graffiti is art.
the most famous works today were the equivalent of graffiti back in their day because they were unconventional and went against what society thought was right.
I hope someone vandalizes your home.
THANK YOU FOR THIS, UR SO RIGHT
The first form a graffiti was in 27 Ad when I young man named brian who wrote "romanes eunt Sonia" as a form of rebellion against then Roman rule at the time. this original piece graffiti or what it became known as at the time, graffitus, is what created such a huge art form in your modern civilisation. thanks Brian.
Lies again? Art Gallery
Was kind of expecting a more contemporary coverage of the graffiti art explosion of the 70/80's in New York. Still very cool
Watch this video with the sound off. It's a drug trip.
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I don't get how people can dislike such a great video like this. Nothing offensive, nothing negative, just pure insightful life lessons. Just so long as the well minded outnumber the dislikers to such a degree makes it alright. Opinions?
Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with you. You see, Ted-Ed covered up not mentioning the history of modern-day graffiti as we know it and reduced it to only including the name of "Taki 183" on the visuals only for a couple of seconds, who is basically its inventor by a seemingly "Thought out" debate about the concept of graffiti without talking about its proper history. This is a serious shortcoming here, it does not teach you anything about hip-hop culture, of which it is an element, not to even mention Banksy. It's pathetic that such valuable knowledge is undermined, only because it comes from the streets it is made less valid.
I think the biggest difference is the purpose for creating the piece. Did you just want to do a quick doodle or name for the rush of getting caught, or did you want to make a statement and ensure it will be seen?
Yass, I agree! I think that art needs to have the intention
both..
graffiti as it evolved in new York was never about the art. it was about getting up, being seen, and people knowing your name.
I disagree if it was never about are then they wouldn’t have stylised the lettering it was about both
People have different reason why they tag. Sometimes they wanna share their opinions, maybe want people to recognize ur street name or maybe u just do it for fun. They're isn't really a common reason
@@ricosmoovetv 99% of tags and 85% of pieces dont have any political meaning, or any meaning except the writers' nicknames
@@mobbdeep615 and to make cool art.
Nah, graffiti was definitely about art during early 80s late 70s before the new bombing era
if I spend all my money in a new house including the costs of the wall painting and etc, I would hate to have someone drawing his own shit on my wall.
I think it is indeed art, but it doesn't justify damaging someone's property.
Most people that graff on peoples property are bums
i think its more about graffitiing on government property to make leftist statements, rather than peoples houses as an overall movement to be honest
There is generally an unspoken rule among the writers in the graffiti scene which prohibits churches, houses, memorials, etc
It's about how much effort people put in it. If it means something or is creative i think its art. But if it's some dumb statement about some soccer team thats vandalism.
Or ## loves ##
Makes me sick, i will remove it
@@Undetected-936 that’s no fun
A brief history without mentioning Hiphop ?
Exactly but I'm glad someone was thinking the same
graffiti doesnt need to be related to hip hop
ur a dumb ass ^
Westcoast EU you are silly. The beginning of hip hop laid the current foundation of graffiti. Learn your history.
Graffiti *is* one of the 4 fundamentals of the Hip Hop culture.
1) Graffiting
2) Deejaying
3) Breakdancing
4) Emceeing
To say that Graffiti doesn't need to be related to hip hop is like asking if math is related to science.
Obviously today, people that do graffiti might associate it with different forms of music, but this is not how everything begun and also we need to clarify here, that we are talking about Graffiti in particular and not for some other form or street art. Graffiti is a form of street art, but not every form of street art is Graffiti.
My town, I feel, embodies this struggle between the accepted and immoral nature of graffiti. Whereas we do experience a lot of senseless 'tagging' done by younger wannabe vandals we also have arrangements that range from something a small as a homeowner to as large as city hall organizing a city wide project where graffiti is used to decorate public and private property alike. Although I personally don't like graffiti my former classmates would argue that graffiti has a different reputation here, even to the extent that my school had an entire class devoted to graffiti art.
Cos of my dyslexia I genuinely thought this video was called: The history of Giraffeity
+FISHY EVERYTHING *er'uoy
+FISHY EVERYTHING lmao
+FISHY EVERYTHING Dog'll get ya for that.
FISHY EVERYTHING Dog will get you for that.
FISHY EVERYTHING “if your dyslexic you can read this” Ha I’m not dyslexic and I can read it
Love graffiti...to see it grow from the 70/80s to the present day and what the grafitti artist can do now.... AMAZING!
I miss when the New York subway was colorful instead of being a metal cage with no color.
It's funny how people are like "Uh, graffiti is not art, they just scribble shit" but pictures that are just plain grey are sold for thousands of dollars to museums. Like, graffiti is art. You don't have to like it for it to be art. I could draw a simple line and declare it art because "art" just means something that is done on purpose but doesn't necessarily serve a purpose. Therefore graffiti is art. It's still vandalism if done on public or not self-owned objects/properties though.
Carla Villegas Predko LOL SAME
@@CarlaVillegasPredko-zd9qo I don't think animal abuse would be considered graffiti though.
Not me using this for my rebuttal for a school essay :>
right now, in Italy graffiti is out of hand. You can come to Rome, Milan, Naples etc. and what will you see in the streets is pure vandalism. There are some graffiti that are very artistic and should be on the streets, But most of the graffities are a kind of vandalism.
when I first read the title, I thought that Kelly "Wall" was some kind of joke.
I really love graffiti art I think it’s a very important way of making your mark in the world
If we're talking modern graffiti culture, yes, it is vandalism first and foremost. And that is what makes it amazing. When one does graffiti they are vandalizing with art. Its illegal and unathorized art.
Art is supossed to intrigure you.
Dance, painting, singing and writing along side of so many other arts..
it is those things that are the ultimate forms of self expression.
Art is a human beings ultimate form of self expression.
The ability to create art is what seperates us from the animals.
Art must be true and raw and real.
Music is a reflection of people. Don't mask your true feelings in the creation of art no matter which one that may be.
If you are not true to the nature of the arts you are not a true artist.
Graffiti is a form of self expression. No matter how raw that may be, it shouldn't be a crime as long as it reflects society.
Art reflects life and life is a butterfly.
You can not ever put a butterflies in a jar.
Butterflies are free.
well no, have you seen those vdeos of elephants painting?
graffiti is better than modern art
Delgado Army no better...Awesome than modern art😉😀
Graffiti IS contemporary art.
Graffiti is never gonna be stopped
So the Vandals were the first to commit vandalism?
What a coincidence.
Where did they get the spray paint??
Your joking, right? There was no spray paint.
Sorry for coming off as offensive, that was not my intention. They did not have spray paint, that was not invented yet. They likely used markers of sorts and paint.
+Josh Marshall The Vandals weren't graffiti artists. They burned and looted Rome.
I must have missed that in the video, sorry. Just ignore all I said then lol
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From Sega's Jet Set Radio/Jet Grind Radio (2000)
Graffiti is art. However, graffiti as an act of vandalism is a crime. Every state/province has vandalism laws that apply to graffiti, and local entities such as cities and counties have anti-graffiti ordinances. Violation of these laws can result in a fine, probation, or a jail sentence.
Who else is here because of a school assignment 😭
Nah I just like graffiti
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As long as you are drawing on you’re own property it’s not vandalism.
Graffiti writers don’t write on their own property apart from to practice. Writers who know what their doing sometimes also don’t go tagging in their own neighborhood so that they keep their home address anonymous.
I know that there are some really nice graffiti out there, but the ones I'm used to is nothing but straight up vandalism. It's not art when what's tagged on the wall is hate, profanity, and the names of local street gangs. Don't do that shit on my wall or any public and private property. Do it where it can be better appreciate or where no one cares like a skate park or a flood control channel like the L.A. River.
Some people care about the skate park...
Im really tired of this "Vandalism or art" argument. It's obviously both. Art is an expression and Vandalism is the destruction or alteration of something the vandal doesn't own..IT'S BOTH
the music and her voice made it feel like a 90s school documentary
I absolutely love this, more so because I watched the Get Down on Netflix. Books is so romantic😍😍
This is really good got it for my homework to write comprehension questions!!
I have just started filming some of the best street art walks in Europe on our youtube channel - there's no ad's or agenda - like this TED talk, just an appreciation. So thanks I really enjoyed the video and have subscribed.
It depends what they draw or how they draw it for me.
If you paint on your own property, it is Art but if you paint on someone else’s property, it is vandalism, pure and simple.
respect to the ancient greek and romans and other cats of antiquity who wrote their name, respect to cornbread and the philly style, respect to new york writers representing their street and getting up on trains, respect to blek le rat & invader for their characters, respect to mastiff dog for pichacao and those crazy freeclimbers, respect to computer nerds cranking out textmode styles on BBS, love and respect to all that get up, even if you utilize your acquired skills for 'non-insider' street art. for something that is not appreciated by the world, all we have is mutual love and respect and a hierarchy of rules to follow. keep it real. scribo ergo sum.
0:11 what's that?.. I'm scared
The difference between defacing and beautifying is permission, much like Underwear vs Bikini.
I did a 10 page research paper on this exact history haha but I added Spokane's Growing visual scene!
Do u still have it?can i read it?thank u
as long as it isn't some where disruptive like on a business or house i think it is pretty cool
To be honest alot of graffiti is very pretty and they truly are wonderful artists
A lot? Maybe you shouldn't exaggerate.
Writers *. Don't mix them together.
In Alaska sailors did graffiti to let other sailors know that they're here.
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めっちゃおもろかった
I expected kelly wall to be like some place where graffiti art got it's start
I love TED-Ed graphics, but this one actually hurt my eyes some how. I hope they don't do anymore in this style
If you get consent to graffiti from the owner of the property, then it's art, otherwise it is immoral. At least in modern times.
+Burhan the Somali immoral or illegal. there are illegal things that most would consider moral.
Putting your name in some else`s truck just because you have nothing better to do is not art.
Equestrian Republican dude graffiti is art you express your self in one word it’s amazing
My personal take is that no matter where it is done, or what form it takes it is art , weather it be poltical messaging street art or a tag , the only thing i dont agree with is writting something explicity hateful such as insulting minorities a swastiki or using unessicarly insluting language
It feels really great to see the mention of taki 183, they have done some great research. And also the artwork of Banksy at the end . 🙌🙌🙌
People should get permission from the city to draw anything on the walls otheewise its just vandalism
I remember back when I was 16, the owner of this building hired a company to paint its wall. Big job, brand spanking new paint. Later that night the neighborhood kids spent hours drawing and writing their names on the wall. I was absolutely horrified. The thing that I noticed is that these kids, 13 to 16 years old, didn't make any mental connections that someone just spent a lot of money painting their property, their mind was more like, "Oh cool, this perfect to draw graffiti. Ever since then I associate graffiti with low IQs.
closed minded.
That's your respond? Close minded because I was horrified over some guy instantly losing thousands of dollars after hiring a bunch of guys to paint his building? I would call you low IQ, and narrow minded, and closed minded. Perhaps a criminal record since you can't associate that ruining something that belongs to someone else for your own person pleasure at that moment is very selfish.
I feel sad for you; thinking everyone that does graffiti is automatically has low IQ. Graffiti is only for those who are open minded, to explain it to someone who doesn't understand something and therefore hates it, is a waste of my time.
And you don't see the other point of view. Somebody has property, someone else comes and defaces it? To me that's close minded, and unable to see the point of view of others. Self focused. An artist is someone who can do things like drawing, make music, but you also have to separate those abilities with an act against somebody else property, especially after seeing that someone just wasted thousands of dollars specifically renovating that property. And most these people are not artist, they're just writing their name, or doing drawings that they could have done on a piece of paper, and looks just as bad as people who don't draw.
Writers do not write on peoples' personal belongings, cars and houses. Writing on a building for example, is ''ok'' in writers' eyes because not ONE direct person is paying for the damage. It is different, however, when ''writers'' paint small businesses. Then, ONE person would pay for the damage unlike painting a building that is run by a cooperation. Side note: Cooperations run the world and will contribute to the end humanity. Many writers hate the system and cooperations and ''rebel'' against them. Writers realize that what they do is vandalism and art. Some writers think everything is temporary and there is no need to be materialistic and want to live life their way because you only have one opportunity. Again, it is very hard to try to explain to someone who doesn't agree with graffiti, explain how some writers think. I agree it is selfish and it is vandalism. But to me, there's an art in that selfishness and vandalism that is called graffiti.
As SEEN godfather of Graffiti said, graffiti writing has nothing to do with hip hop, same is my thinking cause in Greece i started graffiti writing back at 1984 when hip hop did not exist in my country!
This video still leaves me wondering.
Why didn't the Sehawks run the ball?
grafiti is art its were you put it that makes it vandalism
Maybe if it's on your own wall, it's art. If it's on my wall, it's vandalism. If I catch the vandal in the act of doing it, they have to answer to my security guards, Smith and Wesson.
Graffiti are a real forma of art!
You Wall around the city and wow! a masterpice on the Wall!
The entire Place become a art piece!
It can be both. If you're painting or drawing on property that you don't own then that is graffiti. However some graffiti is artistic, such as the stuff Banksy does or the large murals that get painted. The stupid tags that you see on walls it just plain graffiti.
Painting on other people's property is vandalism. Would want someone spraying paint on your house, car, book bag, coat, your door? People don't think about it until its their property. Solution? Buy a canvas.
Why was the Alexamenos graffito shown at 1:01 as graffiti about magic spells?
Easy answer. Vandalism. If its not yours you cannot deface it. Only artists seem to have a problem understanding property ownership until one of their designs gets defaced or ripped off.
"What's this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called Romanes, they go, the house?"
no mention of hip hop? Not accurate anymore.
Oh don't worry, it's cool if you deface my property, it's not like I own it or whatever. Or that I liked the current paint job. They are assholes.
100%
+yüng Tohav You seem to be extremely upset as you post a ton of '''''''rude'''''''' comments as responses
what's the matter little guy? need ur blanket?
Thank you. The entire debate about it being art or vandalism is stupid. It's certainly a form of art but it's also vandalism if you do it on someones else property. You're completely in your rights to do graffiti if you own the wall or have got permission from the owner. Otherwise it's destruction of someone else property no matter how beautiful it is.
+Edward Karlsson just rub it off. its art
whitepiano23 That's like telling someone that got stabed. Just recover from the wound and don't prosecute the offender. Or telling the vicitm of an arson to just buy a new house. Also grafiti can be hard to rub off and you might have to do it every day. If you really liike grafiti that much. Let people do it on your walls.
Granted graffiti done right can be art with respected permission. But if you look at my downtown buildings, well, It just paints the picture your living in the slums. Fly a plane and spend some time looking at downtown Jacksonville. You would think we were living in the purge. There is no moderation at all. It's everywhere and it makes me scared to go there. O - O it's horrifying.
Graffiti is both, I see no contradiction, for example, certain Graffiti while made illegally, could be considered "historic" and thus could be given protection even if it was made illegally, something that has been done and has precedent, of course I prefer the civil rights approach and saying well the owners can get rid of it and those who did it probably should be deterred from doing it.
graffiti can be vandalism and art but they are not the same thing
facts
Well it depends where you are doing your grafitti
these guys should reaalllly consider a collab with HISHE
Name of the artist at 3:20 ? I know it I just can't remember and it's bothering me big time.
keith harring
@@DV15TooStronk bro i know you replied this like 3 years ago, but thank you very much lmao, been searching this guy's name for quite a long time...
@@WithinAR ;)
I like someone name is Kelly Wall talking about graffiti, get it, WALL.
is music noise? or disturbance? is architecture art ? or optical pollution? are humans good? or bad?
Was expecting Kelly Wall to be mega mad about graffiti. All those walls painted, she doesn’t want her to be as well or something idk.
Great video. I wish your team the best.
She didnt tell that graffiti is part of hiphop culture
Graffiti and street art are not at all the same, sure they both use paint and do it on walls and stuff, but thats like saying a chef is the same as a knife killer, they both use knives right so they are the same thing.
*Is it art? Is it vandalism? No. It's both.*
*Graffiti is, the art of vandalism*
*Graffiti is street art, but street art, is not necessarily Graffiti*
That means, that there are other kinds of street arts that are not Graffiti.
Graffiti is: To get your name up and make it stay there. Simple as that.
Everything that doesn't contain your name, is not Graffiti.
Graffiti is something more than street art. *It's a way of life*.
Its philosophy.
If this was a real wall. This comment would not be a Graffiti.
But it could very well look allot like it. But it could be something else,
Maybe another form of street art.
I honestly feel like the should have more public art opportunities and public walls for garaffiti. A lot of kids graffiti illegal cause they naturaly want to do something like they should but can't find and legal oppurtunities. And honestly graffiti is better than thongs like drugs and gangbanging. People complain about deliquentry youths, but honestly, we are often just looking for something to do and the legal stuff is too exclusive or expensive.
"too expensive"? A quick google search shows that a 20-count box of sidewalk chalk is $2 and a *single can of spray paint* is worth $7 (of course the prices may vary from place to place, but I doubt the price difference makes the chalk more expensive). And don't tell me that chalk is a bad medium, people can do amazing stuff with chalk and the best part is *_it eventually washes away_* so any tacky "art" they make won't be anyone's problem for more than about a week.
i can't be the only one who's here for school
We did a persuasive text about this!
Depends on if the owner approves or not
Well if the person has permission then it's not a problem, but if the person doesn't have permission then it's problem.
An anonymous person, vadalizing private property, to force others into proximity with their opinion that they are not intelligent enough to disceminat legally. It could be a strong possibility that what a graffiti writer writes is in all likelihood useless, why else would a person have to resort to such a method.
Is it vandalism to print an image off the internet and then stick it on the front window display on a shop like HMV or a similar shop, obscuring one of their adverts?
Well, if it's on private property (like the shop window), then yes, it could be considered vandalism. The owners would probably be especially pissy if the aforementioned "image off the internet" was something tacky that drove customers away.
Bottom line, just get the owner's permission. If they say no, back off, if not, great, you can put your meme in the window display.
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All cities should have public spaces for graffiti. Artists should be required to use water-soluble paint.
Great. Now clean my damned wall!!!!
Even knowing the answer, we must watch
Does writing "is stupid" under someone's name tag on their cubby count as destruction or beautifying? Someone did that to me.
Can you do one on Olbers' paradox?
Get it? Graffiti... Kelly *Wall*...
these visuals are fantastic
DO MORE RIDDLES PLEASE!!!!
ART. I have rules no small or private houses and I don't involve politics racism etc. Only names or people and it must look decent if it doesn't then practice at home
psst some typographers are graffiti writers... (and so are some graphic designers...)... shhhhh
that's it, I'm gonna start spray painting messages like "Victori pro Spiculus" all around arenas