Never did get a decent origin story beyond the day of manufacture. Just “here’s its first victim,” then “here’s it sitting for decades unused because it’s owner somehow died mysteriously.” Maybe the book had more info but all we got in the movie was that old man trying to get rid of a car his brother loved so dearly.
@@MisterMikeTexas And how many Plymouths did YOU OWN!?.I had many Plymouths and the 1966 had a little rust on rear quarter,How about the 1973 Chevy pick up,I had a red one,my brother had the lime green,his bed rusted off totally,mine nearly did! Dad had some Mercurys in mid 70s a White one a bronze one both had severe rust,had a toyota had a honda,both had a lot of rust, Okay cars, MADE OF STEEL,Roads have SALT,Salt makes steel RUST!!.
Jess Hadfield A cording to the video the Plymouth is better of the two. Side by side I like the Plymouth over the Chevy. I grew up after the 1957 Chevy but heard it for ever guys thinking great about it. Was never into 1950's cars. I say the only one like was the later 1950's Corvette.
You cant, they’ve all rusted to dust due to inferior rushed-to-production engineering. You can, however, find a perfectly decent ‘57 Chevrolet still good for lifetime of service.
I graduated from High School in 1965 and remember these cars very well. Boy, you don't know how much I miss those times. There were gas wars in the 1960s and gasoline went down to .10 cents a gallon and we paid with REAL MONEY (SILVER DIMES).
@@scootergeorge7089 The last year I saw U.S. 90% silver coins were dated 1964 because in 1965 the coinage act was passed to remove them from circulation. I remember many of my fellow G.I.s (1966) on board the U.S.S Maurice Rose being shipped to the Vietnam War were making rings out of Silver quarters by hammering them with spoons. Back then, (early 1960s) it cost 10 cents to see a movie. Small pop corn, coke, candy bar (Snickers/Milky Way etc.) ALL cost a Nickel...EACH!....No tax either.
@@juans6639 - I said 1963, it was '64. My bad. But I NEVER saw gas for a dime. Never. Used to ride with my Dad and he's stop at a gas station and the attendant would ask, "Fill it up?" Dad would say, 'A buck's worth of regular" and get 4 to 5 gallons.
I Drove my baby brother home in a red&white 1957 Plymouth station wagon in 1966 Dad&Mom sat in back seat...w baby brother. He passed away@40 in 2006 RIP Joe love u brother.
@@maryrafuse2297 Mary my family were all semi pro musicians,Joe&I were better,Joe was one of the best singers I ever heard,Mom sort of loved him to death!,I had him an audition in Nashville(1985)Mom Ko'd that. Joe had just started back in church He loved Jesus,I'm 70 not very good health...so hope to see you on other side Mary!,Praise Jesus!!
@@mikehenson819 Thank you Mike,My brother was friends with some of the Hinsons So gospel group,I see you name spelled with an E..have a friend Tom Henson a great fiddle player in Southern Indiana.
My first car was a used 57 plymouth. It was a reliable well made car. A friend drove into someone's bedroom and only had to replace the grill and fender. I lived in California and there was no rust on that car and I know others weren't so lucky
My grandfather looked at a gold /white top 57 chevy bel air v8 and 57 Plymouth belevdere 4dr same color and went to order the 57 plymouth because it had more engineering feats with a 3 spd auto even though he had trouble free '51 bel air 6 cyl with powerglide but he went to pick up the 4 dr Plymouth and saw a sport fury with off whit4e and gold trim, my dad talked him into looking at it and they heard it start and it was quicker and had a higher top speed than 301 dr and 57 chevy bel air and once they both heard it start and revved it to make the unique dual quad vacumn fully opened carbs open- that was it. Sales contract was torn up, and they asked to take it home for the night with a deposit and finalized on saturday morning. The engine was good and they took the fury across country and it held over 80 mph from coast to coast and uphills in Colorado air and never overheated, missed and ran better when driven like a police cruiser but low quality and moving to Ca extended its life from rust but from a stop light in Denver, a 4spd 57 bel air just left it in the dust but on US 80 and 40 the fury had the cooling system and brakes to beat it [ and another story in salt lake about it having a 1/4 pedal left when floored to 120 and not missing ]after driving the fury , they left 57 bel air felt like a poor mans cadillac. and I guess the fury's look and power sold them, it became my grandmother's car and many family members took their driving tests in it, it stalled with the push button transmission hesitation and "hot start issue" when parallel parking and in one case needed to lay rubber to keep running when hot and backing into a spot uphill . The inspector smiled and was tech for a city garage and said the police plymouths stalled hot and handled well but chevy's had more room and was more comfortable and felt like a better car than it was. He liked the fury and told her how the officers would jab the top or bottom of accelerator to catch speeders depending on need, the plymouths would also a make special "open carbs" sound and if he heard it , that was a fail, She passed the test. We always wondered what happened to it after it was traded with 95 k miles for new 68 cutlass in CA. Many said they were decent cars when basic but when ordered to be like a desoto or imperial, they got too complicated. We have many family stories on the fury, the dog liked to ride in it too and would jump when it started.
Exner's design for the 1957 Chrysler lineup was so revolutionary that it sent the GM designers back to the drawing board. That's why GM's 1958 models became a one year body style. Too bad Chrysler rushed production. Quality suffered a result.
Nothing influenced GM more than Chrysler's 1957 tailfins. Quality was terrible on '57 Mopars. I had a relative who owned a '57 Dodge. Trans was slipping on day one.
My father bought a new '55 Chevy with V8 and it had a lot of problems - most issues were relatively easy shade tree fixes today but the dealer techs weren't familiar with the new motor. Some pistons cracked and after that was repaired the motor burned a lot of oil when it was only a few months old. When he traded it they found a bolt was missing from the Power-glide which explained why he had to continually add transmission fluid.
True, Exner loved the fact that Torsion bars could lower the car and used this in the design. Chrysler was actually cash strapped at this time. The previous sales years were not good. They got money $250 million from Prudential to develop the next line up. I just wish that one car line up was not winged up. I think Desoto was the best looking with the fins, however the Imperial look was, imho, too much. But then the famous gun sight tail lights would not have been.
I started in advertising in the 1960s and worked at Ross Roy/BBD&O (Chrysler's agency) in the late 90s. This style of presentation makes me feel all warm/fuzzy/proud/nostalgic inside.
Does anyone else find it interesting that once upon a time car ads actually told you about the car in great depth; whereas, these days advertisers seem to think that Blue Tooth connectivity is the most important thing to potential buyers. Must be the same people who post endless drivel on Facebook. So glad I grew up in the 50s and started driving in 1965 before the world became bubble wrapped.
@@badad0166 Yeah, I know. It's obviously way too long for a TV ad. But I can remember as a kid in the late 50s eagerly anticipating and watching the ads that came out in the fall for the new models. In retrospect I guess there was a lot of BS handed out about "lower and longer" with buzz words like "Power Glide" [2 spd auto - what crap] but at least everyone including my parents got a bit excited. These days who cares?
It's all whether you like 1950s proportions or 1960s proportions. The 1957s were a huge engineering change for Chrysler and were intended for 1958 model year. The decision came in development to rush them out for fall 1956 introduction. Needed more testing.
The '57 Chevy became the icon that it did because it was the only one of the '57 "Low-Priced Three" whose bugs were sufficiently worked out to not immediately decay to clunkerdom. It was GM's first "Good Used Car" that didn't have enough appeal to new-car buyers, very much in the vein of the later 3800-engined cars and Cavalier/Sunfires.
Shit, millions of people love the look of the 57 Chevy and could care less about that bullshit. Hot Rodders been building the since day one. Not much looks better than a properly built 57 Chevy gasser. Perfect hotrod material, that's why people love them. I've owned a couple myself years ago. When I was a kid in the 70s, my dream car was a 57 Chevy built as a drag car. An AMT 57 Chevy model car kit I built as a youth is what did it for me.
55 56 57 Chevies were popular with gear heads because they were the first Chevy with a V8 and after a couple of years you could pick one up for peanuts. Any Chev engine would fit. Junkyards were full of them and hop up parts were available cheap. 58 and up Chevs were heavier and more complicated, and the 348 and 409 engines were dogs. All cars rusted through in a few year if you lived in the rust belt or near the ocean. Plymouths were bad but Chevs and Fords weren't much better.
@@matrox It was Ford, not Plymouth, that outsold Chevrolet in '57 to GM's embarrassment. First time since the early '30s that Chevy wasn't top seller. Plymouth had traditionally been #3 but in the '50s often slipped to fourth behind Buick.
I had a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere 2-door hardtop with the 318-V8 and one 4-barrel carb, and Torqueflite, two-tone beige and yellow, my parents bought it for me like new in May 1965 for my high school senior graduation gift. It was fast and fun to drive and I felt important and part of the cool guys on campus on my last month of senior class before graduating in June. I loved it! I also had a 1958 Plymouth Fury, like new, in 1968, Buckskin Beige and gold trim, with the Golden Commando 350-V8 and dual quads, with Torqueflite. That thing was the fastest car I ever had! It could do a quarter mile at 5 seconds flat! All factory stock! And in 1969, I bought a 1960 Plymouth Fury 2-door hardtop with the 383-V8, single 4-barrel carb, and Torqueflite.
Agreed. Watching this with modern eyes, it sounds bitter. Like “How come Chevy is still around and we aren’t? I mean, just look at their 57! It’s shorter and narrower! Why would anyone want a car like that?”
Plymouth was sustained by police car sales in the 60s, 70s and early 80s. Once Chevy took the lead in police car sales, the handwriting was on the wall for Plymouth.
Funny how the Plymouth six cylinder engine, which was still an old side valve design from the 1930s, was not mentioned. An overhead valve six, which Chevrolet had always had, wasn't available until 1960, with the famous slant six.
@Sodham G'morris That's why even in '59 that 2/3 of Plymouths came with the 230. The 25 inch L-head was better in some ways and continued to be used on a limited number of trucks until '68. The older Stovebolts with babbitt often got replaced with the newer ones. I don't know why GM was slow in upgrading that motor, I guess it worked well enough. Go babbitt! I'd like a video of a GM engine factory pouring babbitt - seems like more work than its worth.
Chrysler thought the 6 cylinder engine would soon be a thing of the past for standard-size cars. The 58 recession changed their mind though. That's why the Slant 6 came as a larger 225 cube version instead of only a 170.
No matter which car was better, they both exhibited unique styling as did all other cars of the day. Today with the emphasis on aerodynamics, you can't tell one from another. We have lost something in the interest of fuel efficiency.
In 1957 Fury was a sub-series of the Belvedere; it was not until two years later that Fury became its own series. One year later, the 318 (5.2-liter) "V-800" engine was increased in displacement to 350 cubic inches (5.7 liters) and became the "Golden Commando" V8. The year after that, 1959, the displacement was increased again, to 361 cubic inches (5.9 liters).
One of the cars I looked at as my first car was a 57 Ply. The owner wanted $50 for it in 1975. I went to look at it, the owner tried to start it then the engine seized. We checked the oil and the oil was like sludge. I saved up some more money and ended up getting a 69' Ply. Road Runner. Another real classic today.
Unfortunately, most people did not like the torsion-aire ride because it was too firm. Ford actually outsold both in 1957 because Ford offered the softest ride and that is what people wanted. The 1957 Chevrolet will bring in 5 times more today in terms of dollars.
@@waynejohnson1304 thanks for the feedback. Since a week or 2 i got hooked on the fords from 1960 like the starliner or the thunderbird. The kind of beauty you don’t see today.
@@luckym0nk3y A neighbor up the street from us father had a 60'Ford. I never liked the styling. At the time we had a 55' Rocket 88 Oldsmobile 2 door hard top. Another 50s classic. I wish my father would have kept it.
Along with the Ramblers, the '57 GM cars that actually still had chair-height seating. Those Mopars were, across the line, famous for their thin, underpadded seats.
I always remember the 58 Chevy and the beginning of the X-frame GM's. These were known for breaking half in side collisions and dropping the rear bumpers on the ground when rusted.
My father worked as a body-and-fender man at a Pontiac dealer at this time...and by 1958, they were selling patch panels to deal with the rust that blossomed on Plymouths (and for that matter, other Chrysler products--not to mention Fords!) And by '58, the tail lights on the Plymouth were in roughly the same place as they were on the '57 Chevy!)
This early '57s had metal treatment issues, as well as some torsion bar issues (they were too thin), maybe the cost of all new design had a negative effect on the product's quality but, that was for sure solved by the "face lifted" '58 model. I have one and it is safe to say it is surprising, even to modern standards, how it corners for being a 50's car, the smoothness of its shifting and power once you want to overtake, the crazy amount of room in it and the comfort. Brakes are sure not the best, that has to be said as well. Sure the analisis if the video is purely trying to sell Plymouths and trying to underestimate the Chevy in a quite ridicule and annoying way. But sure Chrysler corp suspensions, engines, transmissions... Were ahead back in the day.
Mr. Walter Chrysler and his company were always ahead with implementing new innovative engineering. Great example was hydraulic braking systems at a time when Henry Ford was slow to abandon cable actuated brakes.
Actually, the Plymouth's brakes were indeed better PROVIDING they are properly adjusted and "bedded in". Properly adjusting them is the problem with them.
@@michaelbenardo5695 Adjusted mines many times and were fully rebuilt.. Front "total contact" brakes with twin wheel cylinders worked fine the first first or second step on them... But never the third.... I ended by fitting front disc brakes... Everything was solved. With this brakes and power steering, its nearly like driving a modern thing!
The little “beep” was the signal to hit the button for the next slide. This was a “film strip” with an accompanying sound recording. This was better than trying to get salespeople to read a training manual, and the little slide projector and phonograph were much less expensive and easier to run than a regular movie projector.
Around the third "bink" I was transported through time, back to my childhood classroom. There is a hypnotic Pavlovian effect from that "ding". "Fresh stimuli coming!" Slide shows remained viable and used right up to the early '90's in corporate stuff. Partly "if it ain't broke" and partly because slides could be easily edited for the market. Then came computers...
There's no doubt in my mind , the 57 Chrysler s looked great and as popular as the 57 Chevy is and was it is not as impressive in the styling depth. Having said that I owned a 59 (58 Equivilent US model) right hand drive Australian assembled Desoto Firesweep that were arguably generally better assembled than some of the US model Chrysler bodies as they were considered luxury vehicles here and the South Australian assembly plant workers took a bit more care IMO. It had the 361cu 305 hp V8 providing plenty of power and through the excellent 3 speed Torqueflite not a 2 speed Powerglide as in the Chevy. Maybe due to Australia's warmer and drier climate rust was not as much of a problem and my 59 was still rust free in 1976. I also believe the Desoto was the better looking of the models, Plymouth, Dodge, except for the Chrysler 300 series, the Desoto's beautiful front grille and those 59 Caddy style bullet tail lamps were stunning IMHO. It was quite a stable platform and with a firmer set of shock absorbers handled very well and would stop on a dime, off course brake fade was a possibility on all drum brake models. I did have to replace some torsion bar/ front suspension bushes however but the replacements are held up well. Interestingly many American based models made in Australia were factory fitted with front disc brakes well before basic US models in the mid 60's.
That Plymouth was pretty sweet riding on the interstate, over the chevy ....i am a lover of the 1954 belair and 1956 belair, never really liked the '57 or 58 belair's. Between 1965 and 1970 Chrysler dodge Plymouth ruled!
Those 57 Plymouth’s are definitely good looking, and make for a good movie car. I personally like the 55 Chevy more over the 57. The 55/56 Ford was also nice.
I believe we will all agree that 1957 was a banner year for the American Auto Industry. Three Brother friends had one each of Chevy, Plymouth Fury and Ford. My favorite was the Ford however, the Chevy was one of the all times favorites.
I remember when both these cars were plentiful on the road when I was a kid. My next door neighbor was a cab driver and had a 57 Ply. which doubled as the family car which was common back then. That being said I have always been a big fan of the 57 Chevy. The 57 Chevy in the 2 door model is just a bad ass looking classic styled car. Think of the 1950s and the 57; Chevy is a great representation. The 57 Ply was over styled until it looked clunky. I thought so then, though the style has grown on me but can't stand up to the 57 Chevy styling.
When Christine came out, I had told my dad what a cool car the Plymouth was. He said the Chrysler products were garbage. Squeaks, rattles, engine and trans problems. My dad had a 56 Chevy in the day. None of my family liked Chrysler products. We are from South of Pittsburgh. Of course every car rusted out there!
Too bad the 57 Plymouth was so poorly built. Conceptually, it truly is a superior car. These 57s were originally going to be 58s, which meant the 57 was a mass produced prototype. The 58 was just as beautiful, even faster, and better quality.
All the 50's cars had more style than cars today. And, although most of the cars were rusting through within 5 years, especially if you lived in the Midwest, Chrysler products were the worst. They did offer some strong engines, however.
My fathers Australian 1948 Chev Stylemaster had factory electric wipers. Yet GM Holden here had vacuum wipers until 1962 or so. So maybe depended on what part of GM's wide range of makes and models.
If the 57 Plymouth was so great, how come you never see one at a car show? But you see many 55, 56, and 57 Chevys. The only good parts from a 57 Plymouth were the full cone styled wheel covers. These were on many cars of the time. The rest of the car was rust bucket junk.
Anyone with a CB or ham radio could hear a 58 Chevy coming from a couple blocks away. They had the noisiest ignition system of any car on the road at the time.
I like the 57 Chevy better, I wouldn't mind owning either one, but would prefer the Chevy, I dad owned 6 57's when I was a kid. They are one of my favorites.
The Riverside Casio has a '57 Plymouth and '57 Chevy next to each other in their museum. The Chevy might as well be a '54. The Plymouth is longer lower wider, "four" headlights. My Parents had '57 Plymouth. I remember my Dad saying the brakes left a lot to be desired. Better than doesn't mean good!
I rode many miles in both types of car as a kid. There were two 57 Chevies on my block, and a friend's dad had a 57 Plymouth he drove us took to the lake two or three summers. Once, playing around in the Plymouth when it was parked, I pushed 2 of the buttons on the push-button transmission, and, to my horror, they got stuck. Cover plate came off with a couple screws, and it was an easy fix. I remember the power steering in that car as being "one-finger" control. I can't say I was particularly crazy about the looks of either, but then I didn't necessarily dislike them. Ironically, I liked the tail lights on the 58 Plymouth more, and they were very similar to the 57 Shaker's. All that said, I'd have to say Plymouth made a pretty compelling case for themselves here. 290 horse, dual quad engine option? Way more tranny options with even overdrive available?? Except for the fact that the Chevy had that cool door in the fin hiding the gas cap, the Plymouth would seem to be the better buy. Nonetheless, car collectors certainly ended up favoring the Chevy. The first car I ever rode in was my Dad's 48 Plymouth. It had a great big gorgeous logo of a square-rigged sailing ship on the huge horn button in the middle of the steering wheel. Maybe it wasn't as big as I remember; after all, back then I could stand on the backseat and jump up and down, no problem. It's always weird to me how many seemingly timeless, 'permanent' auto brands and divisions have disappeared. Besides Plymouth, there's Oldsmobile, which, I think, was the second oldest marque in the world at the time they were shuttered. Mercury, DeSoto, Imperial, Packard, Hudson, the entire American Motors as well as Studebaker... Car biz is brutal.
Yeah the Chevys are still out there on the road. But when's the last time you saw one of those Plymouths on the road or even at a show or a cars and coffee, hum?
Sales of the big Plymouth plummeted in the following years due to the poor quality of this 1957 model. Chrysler Corporation should have either waited to introduce this design until 1958...or kept the new body and kept a conventional suspension at least for this model year to take pressure off their engineering staff. The 1957 Chevrolet had an older taller design but the quality was better than both Plymouth and Ford that model year.
@@Rick-S-6063 Two seat cars are a small niche market. The 1958 Thunderbird had a very late introduction but sold well because it was a new design and created a new personal luxury market. U.S. industry sales were weak for the rest of the industry (except Rambler) during the 1958 model year for two reasons: economic recession and bad styling. GM had decent quality but Harley Earl's final designs were awful, especially Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Buick. FoMoCo suffered with Edsel and Lincoln/Continental which were turkeys and Mercury which didn't sell too well. Chrysler had better quality than 1957 but the public wasn't so sure.
all this talk by plymouth..yet they skipped over any talk of the 6 cylinder engines ....i guess they didnt want to talk about their outdated flathead 6
1957 was one of the few years that FORD was the top selling brand. More than Chevy and more than Plymouth. These days the 1957 Chevy seems to be a more popular buy for the antique car buyer. My father had a 1957 Chevy Bel Air two door coupe. Black exterior with red interior. Three speed stick shift with 6 cylinder engine. Hardly a high performance vehicle but to my eye a more attractive car than the Plymouths. Come 1964 he traded it in for a 1964 Chevy Impala 4 door sedan, so my time behind the wheel was short. So Chrysler cars were indeed "trend setters" but still could not attract all that many buyers away from Chevy.
It was a close race between Ford and Chevrolet in 1957. Ford had two different wheelbases and an all new design. Quality of the Ford body was worse than Chevrolet but better than Plymouth. The 1958 and 1959 Ford were better made but the styling was worse.
Good Lord how embarrassing, i've always loved 50's cars but the 57' Chevy was always outdated & i never understood why it's the 'Face' of the 50's Car when Plymouth or other MoPar's, heck even other manufacturers were so far ahead of the curve with not only styling but mechanical features
Plymouth styling with Chevrolet build quality would have been a fantastic car. I’ve seen several immaculate low mileage ‘57 and ‘58 Plymouths and every one had the optional factory underseal.
I would have still picked the Chevy. Chrysler after they got rid of KT Keller, started to scrimp on build quality for flamboyant design. If they had kept their legendary durability and quality combined with great styling, Chrysler would have regained the number 2 spot.
In '52 Walter Briggs died. Chrysler fearing that a competitor would buy the company rushed to buy Briggs. The engineers found that building their own bodies was difficult and costly - especially since the other manufacturers no longer would buy thousands of bodies made in the former Briggs plants. Briggs bodies were high quality - weren't rust prone. Chrysler kept the production of the Chrysler/DeSoto makes bodies nearly the same as under Briggs management, but did cost cutting on Dodge and Plymouth. The engineering cost studies lead to building the Dodge and Plymouth bodies in 1960 at the assembly plants - the "unibody" - Mopar body quality improved in the '60s. This is a reason that mid to late '50s Mopars suffer from the "tin worm".
I’m not so sure durability sells anything. Look at f series trucks. They’ve sold millions despite the modular shitshow. And the 2009 + cab off service trucks people will buy anything that looks good. However fleets will not. In truck upfitting, 2008 and down f trucks were dominating fleet sales 2009 came and that was it. All of a sudden we were building dodge and Chevy trucks day in and day out. 2010 and 11 we did just a handful of fords. Mostly gassers. A lot of fleets don’t like diesels because they are noisy in urban areas…enter Ford with the 6.0l Scorpion. Holy shit! Put a pto on and the truck sounds like a bag of hammers. At idle. And right at that moment gm decided to get out of medium trucks completely. For a couple of years it was nothing but dodge. But they couldn’t supply them fast enough. Because Cummins couldn’t build engines fast enough. Fleets are fickle. They will buy what doesn’t break but if you can’t supply or service fast enough they move on. To v10 fords until the 6.7 came out Then they started buying those As fast as they could because they were more tolerant of the b20 they like to burn. Long story short they go with what works but if you can’t fix them they will move on to what they can fix Good bad or ugly. Ps GM is back in the medium market but apparently not in Canada. They’ve left it to the partner in their new medium trucks international to deal with Canada. Strange because a lot of tow company’s here stuck with gm even when the best they could do was a 3500. And they paid extra to uprate the springs etc so they could use gm trucks.. no reward for loyalty to gm in Canada. But yeah. That’s Generic Motors for ya.
I like the styling of the Plymouth,but the sad fact is that by 1960 you would be shovelling up your 57 Plymouth up off the driveway.From a power train perspective they were very good tho.
As most people don't know Ford outsold Plymouth and Chevy for 1957 so they should have compared to Ford . Plymouth had all new styling for 1957 but so did Ford and Thunderbird sales were 5 times Corvette sales , it would get worse in 1958 with the 4 seat Thunderbird . This was made early in the model year when they assumed that Chevy would be the best seller , but the better built Fords were their true competition they just didn't know it yet . As by 1959 Plymouth products had a poor reputation for build quality that was well deserved .
The Bel Air was better looking then, and it's an iconic classic now. No one cares about the Plymouth. The Bel Air still attracts crowds. Harley Earl was a legend.
A lot of people love these Plymouths, the Chevy survival rate was far better since they were better built. Plymouths rotted out within three years. Put them side by side today and car enthusiasts will be more interested in the far rarer Plymouth than the 20 or more Tri-Chevies you see at every show.
"Dad,are we getting a new Plymouth?"
"You bet Son!"
"What will we name it?"
"Son let's name it Christine!"
Hahaha!
Robert Keefer oh yeah. Let’s get brutally murdered
@@isaacsrandomvideos667 atleast the repair Bill's are nonexistent
Never did get a decent origin story beyond the day of manufacture. Just “here’s its first victim,” then “here’s it sitting for decades unused because it’s owner somehow died mysteriously.” Maybe the book had more info but all we got in the movie was that old man trying to get rid of a car his brother loved so dearly.
@@UmmYeahOk and we got horror. And we got to see that red chrysler drive itself and murder assholes
It is funny to watch this now, knowing that like it or not the 57 chevy ended up being one of the most iconic cars ever made.
Partly because it didn't rust as fast as the Plymouth.
Crappy Chevrolets aré garbage
@@MisterMikeTexas And how many Plymouths did YOU OWN!?.I had many Plymouths and the 1966 had a little rust on rear quarter,How about the 1973 Chevy pick up,I had a red one,my brother had the lime green,his bed rusted off totally,mine nearly did!
Dad had some Mercurys in mid 70s a White one a bronze one both had severe rust,had a toyota had a honda,both had a lot of rust, Okay cars, MADE OF STEEL,Roads have SALT,Salt makes steel RUST!!.
I can't argue about the bel Air being a really iconic vehicle but thanks to John Carpenter the fury/Belvedere also became a iconic horror movie car
Jess Hadfield A cording to the video the Plymouth is better of the two. Side by side I like the Plymouth over the Chevy. I grew up after the 1957 Chevy but heard it for ever guys thinking great about it. Was never into 1950's cars. I say the only one like was the later 1950's Corvette.
That's it, I'm sold. I'm going out and buying me a brand-new 1957 Plymouth right now!
Well as close to a brand new one you can.
You cant, they’ve all rusted to dust due to inferior rushed-to-production engineering. You can, however, find a perfectly decent ‘57 Chevrolet still good for lifetime of service.
....I'll fire up the Delorean
@@wolfmanradio if you have enough money you can find anything you want.
speed lover: That’s true.
I graduated from High School in 1965 and remember these cars very well. Boy, you don't know how much I miss those times. There were gas wars in the 1960s and gasoline went down to .10 cents a gallon and we paid with REAL MONEY (SILVER DIMES).
I graduated high school in 1970 and never saw gas under 20 cents per gallon. BTW, the US Mint stopped making pure silver coins in 1963.
@@scootergeorge7089 The last year I saw U.S. 90% silver coins were dated 1964 because in 1965 the coinage act was passed to remove them from circulation. I remember many of my fellow G.I.s (1966) on board the U.S.S Maurice Rose being shipped to the Vietnam War were making rings out of Silver quarters by hammering them with spoons. Back then, (early 1960s) it cost 10 cents to see a movie. Small pop corn, coke, candy bar (Snickers/Milky Way etc.) ALL cost a Nickel...EACH!....No tax either.
@@juans6639 - I said 1963, it was '64. My bad. But I NEVER saw gas for a dime. Never. Used to ride with my Dad and he's stop at a gas station and the attendant would ask, "Fill it up?" Dad would say, 'A buck's worth of regular" and get 4 to 5 gallons.
@@scootergeorge7089 He means money, not charge-a-plates.
@@michaelbenardo5695 - What does "charge-a-plates" mean?
I Drove my baby brother home in a red&white 1957 Plymouth station wagon in 1966 Dad&Mom sat in back seat...w baby brother. He passed away@40 in 2006 RIP Joe love u brother.
May Joe rest in peace and may light perpetual shine upon him. Amen
Sweet memories. So sorry about your brother.
@@maryrafuse2297 Mary my family were all semi pro musicians,Joe&I were better,Joe was one of the best singers I ever heard,Mom sort of loved him to death!,I had him an audition in Nashville(1985)Mom Ko'd that. Joe had just started back in church He loved Jesus,I'm 70 not very good health...so hope to see you on other side Mary!,Praise Jesus!!
@@mikehenson819 Thank you Mike,My brother was friends with some of the Hinsons So gospel group,I see you name spelled with an E..have a friend Tom Henson a great fiddle player in Southern Indiana.
@@packingten spelling doesn't matter. We're all from the same clan out of Yorkshire England. God bless you and yours. Every day is a gift!
My first car was a used 57 plymouth. It was a reliable well made car. A friend drove into someone's bedroom and only had to replace the grill and fender. I lived in California and there was no rust on that car and I know others weren't so lucky
Too bad it was an absolutely ridiculous looking car
@@SKANK_HUNT49 It was a great looking car. It doesn't look like the face of the Herman/Unger cartoons in the paper.
@@michaelbenardo5695 what? 😄
My grandfather looked at a gold /white top 57 chevy bel air v8 and 57 Plymouth belevdere 4dr same color and went to order the 57 plymouth because it had more engineering feats with a 3 spd auto even though he had trouble free '51 bel air 6 cyl with powerglide but he went to pick up the 4 dr Plymouth and saw a sport fury with off whit4e and gold trim, my dad talked him into looking at it and they heard it start and it was quicker and had a higher top speed than 301 dr and 57 chevy bel air and once they both heard it start and revved it to make the unique dual quad vacumn fully opened carbs open- that was it. Sales contract was torn up, and they asked to take it home for the night with a deposit and finalized on saturday morning. The engine was good and they took the fury across country and it held over 80 mph from coast to coast and uphills in Colorado air and never overheated, missed and ran better when driven like a police cruiser but low quality and moving to Ca extended its life from rust but from a stop light in Denver, a 4spd 57 bel air just left it in the dust but on US 80 and 40 the fury had the cooling system and brakes to beat it [ and another story in salt lake about it having a 1/4 pedal left when floored to 120 and not missing ]after driving the fury , they left 57 bel air felt like a poor mans cadillac. and I guess the fury's look and power sold them, it became my grandmother's car and many family members took their driving tests in it, it stalled with the push button transmission hesitation and "hot start issue" when parallel parking and in one case needed to lay rubber to keep running when hot and backing into a spot uphill . The inspector smiled and was tech for a city garage and said the police plymouths stalled hot and handled well but chevy's had more room and was more comfortable and felt like a better car than it was. He liked the fury and told her how the officers would jab the top or bottom of accelerator to catch speeders depending on need, the plymouths would also a make special "open carbs" sound and if he heard it , that was a fail, She passed the test. We always wondered what happened to it after it was traded with 95 k miles for new 68 cutlass in CA. Many said they were decent cars when basic but when ordered to be like a desoto or imperial, they got too complicated. We have many family stories on the fury, the dog liked to ride in it too and would jump when it started.
Exner's design for the 1957 Chrysler lineup was so revolutionary that it sent the GM designers back to the drawing board. That's why GM's 1958 models became a one year body style. Too bad Chrysler rushed production. Quality suffered a result.
The '59 Chevy was GM's response to the '57 Plymouth. I like the '59 now, my father had a '59 Chevy 2 door Biscayne. All the '57s are good looking.
Nothing influenced GM more than Chrysler's 1957 tailfins. Quality was terrible on '57 Mopars. I had a relative who owned a '57 Dodge. Trans was slipping on day one.
My father bought a new '55 Chevy with V8 and it had a lot of problems - most issues were relatively easy shade tree fixes today but the dealer techs weren't familiar with the new motor. Some pistons cracked and after that was repaired the motor burned a lot of oil when it was only a few months old. When he traded it they found a bolt was missing from the Power-glide which explained why he had to continually add transmission fluid.
55, 56, 57, 58 and maybe others were all 1 year body styles.
True, Exner loved the fact that Torsion bars could lower the car and used this in the design. Chrysler was actually cash strapped at this time. The previous sales years were not good. They got money $250 million from Prudential to develop the next line up. I just wish that one car line up was not winged up. I think Desoto was the best looking with the fins, however the Imperial look was, imho, too much. But then the famous gun sight tail lights would not have been.
I love the 1957 Plymouths.
Why didn't they compare the 1960 Plymouth to the 1960 Chevrolet?
@@galeroy3103 Should have. 1960 P.lymouths were lightyears ahead of the 57s.
I started in advertising in the 1960s and worked at Ross Roy/BBD&O (Chrysler's agency) in the late 90s. This style of presentation makes me feel all warm/fuzzy/proud/nostalgic inside.
Does anyone else find it interesting that once upon a time car ads actually told you about the car in great depth; whereas, these days advertisers seem to think that Blue Tooth connectivity is the most important thing to potential buyers. Must be the same people who post endless drivel on Facebook. So glad I grew up in the 50s and started driving in 1965 before the world became bubble wrapped.
Yes, todays ads are all about your lifestyle ...nothing about the car.
This is internal sales, not for public consumption. Corporate rah rah for the sales team.
@@badad0166 Yeah, I know. It's obviously way too long for a TV ad. But I can remember as a kid in the late 50s eagerly anticipating and watching the ads that came out in the fall for the new models. In retrospect I guess there was a lot of BS handed out about "lower and longer" with buzz words like "Power Glide" [2 spd auto - what crap] but at least everyone including my parents got a bit excited. These days who cares?
I'm sorry you feel threatened by Bluetooth
@@lukerinderknecht2982 I hope you're joking.
The enhanced tail fins give it motion, thrust and power! Not just more dead weight..
LOL!
It's all whether you like 1950s proportions or 1960s proportions. The 1957s were a huge engineering change for Chrysler and were intended for 1958 model year. The decision came in development to rush them out for fall 1956 introduction. Needed more testing.
The '57 Chevy became the icon that it did because it was the only one of the '57 "Low-Priced Three" whose bugs were sufficiently worked out to not immediately decay to clunkerdom. It was GM's first "Good Used Car" that didn't have enough appeal to new-car buyers, very much in the vein of the later 3800-engined cars and Cavalier/Sunfires.
Shit, millions of people love the look of the 57 Chevy and could care less about that bullshit. Hot Rodders been building the since day one. Not much looks better than a properly built 57 Chevy gasser. Perfect hotrod material, that's why people love them. I've owned a couple myself years ago. When I was a kid in the 70s, my dream car was a 57 Chevy built as a drag car. An AMT 57 Chevy model car kit I built as a youth is what did it for me.
55 56 57 Chevies were popular with gear heads because they were the first Chevy with a V8 and after a couple of years you could pick one up for peanuts. Any Chev engine would fit. Junkyards were full of them and hop up parts were available cheap. 58 and up Chevs were heavier and more complicated, and the 348 and 409 engines were dogs.
All cars rusted through in a few year if you lived in the rust belt or near the ocean. Plymouths were bad but Chevs and Fords weren't much better.
Chevy outsold Plymouth in 57' almost 2 to 1, so your comment is senseless. Chevy sold over 1.5mill units, to Ply less than 600k units.
@@mrdanforth3744 Bad? It was the technology back then. There was no body treatment for rust back then.
@@matrox It was Ford, not Plymouth, that outsold Chevrolet in '57 to GM's embarrassment. First time since the early '30s that Chevy wasn't top seller. Plymouth had traditionally been #3 but in the '50s often slipped to fourth behind Buick.
I had a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere 2-door hardtop with the 318-V8 and one 4-barrel carb, and Torqueflite, two-tone beige and yellow, my parents bought it for me like new in May 1965 for my high school senior graduation gift. It was fast and fun to drive and I felt important and part of the cool guys on campus on my last month of senior class before graduating in June. I loved it!
I also had a 1958 Plymouth Fury, like new, in 1968, Buckskin Beige and gold trim, with the Golden Commando 350-V8 and dual quads, with Torqueflite. That thing was the fastest car I ever had! It could do a quarter mile at 5 seconds flat! All factory stock! And in 1969, I bought a 1960 Plymouth Fury 2-door hardtop with the 383-V8, single 4-barrel carb, and Torqueflite.
That dated dialogue sounds like a jealous woman citing everything she can criticize about another woman, lol
You're right, and it's quickly boring. I couldn't stand it (or her, lol) more than 5 minutes.
Agreed. Watching this with modern eyes, it sounds bitter. Like “How come Chevy is still around and we aren’t? I mean, just look at their 57! It’s shorter and narrower! Why would anyone want a car like that?”
Plymouth was sustained by police car sales in the 60s, 70s and early 80s. Once Chevy took the lead in police car sales, the handwriting was on the wall for Plymouth.
In fairness though, the narrator did say if Chevy did something better.
Funny how the Plymouth six cylinder engine, which was still an old side valve design from the 1930s, was not mentioned. An overhead valve six, which Chevrolet had always had, wasn't available until 1960, with the famous slant six.
Even in its last year in a Plymouth, 2/3 of the '59s were ordered with the 230 L-head six.
Don't you mean "Slant sick"
@Sodham G'morris That's why even in '59 that 2/3 of Plymouths came with the 230. The 25 inch L-head was better in some ways and continued to be used on a limited number of trucks until '68. The older Stovebolts with babbitt often got replaced with the newer ones. I don't know why GM was slow in upgrading that motor, I guess it worked well enough. Go babbitt! I'd like a video of a GM engine factory pouring babbitt - seems like more work than its worth.
Chrysler thought the 6 cylinder engine would soon be a thing of the past for standard-size cars. The 58 recession changed their mind though. That's why the Slant 6 came as a larger 225 cube version instead of only a 170.
@@timothykeith1367 Chevrolet didn't build a babbitt rod engine after 1954.
And in 1958-59 the Plymouth taillights dropped down to just above the bumper. In 1960 they were high again as in 1956.
The big 1960 Plymouth was an imitation of the 1959 Cadillac. The 1960 Dodge Dart was more toned down and took sales away from Plymouth.
I'd take either one brand new now.
I'd undercoat the living daylights out of it
No matter which car was better, they both exhibited unique styling as did all other cars of the day. Today with the emphasis on aerodynamics, you can't tell one from another. We have lost something in the interest of fuel efficiency.
In 1957 Fury was a sub-series of the Belvedere; it was not until two years later that Fury became its own series. One year later, the 318 (5.2-liter) "V-800" engine was increased in displacement to 350 cubic inches (5.7 liters) and became the "Golden Commando" V8. The year after that, 1959, the displacement was increased again, to 361 cubic inches (5.9 liters).
My first car was a 57 Belvedere identical to the one in the promo. I paid 100 dollars and drove it home 150 miles from where it sat since 1974
One of the cars I looked at as my first car was a 57 Ply. The owner wanted $50 for it in 1975. I went to look at it, the owner tried to start it then the engine seized. We checked the oil and the oil was like sludge. I saved up some more money and ended up getting a 69' Ply. Road Runner. Another real classic today.
Unfortunately, most people did not like the torsion-aire ride because it was too firm. Ford actually outsold both in 1957 because Ford offered the softest ride and that is what people wanted. The 1957 Chevrolet will bring in 5 times more today in terms of dollars.
With wich designs? Just asking
@@luckym0nk3y The Ford Victoria outsold both the Plymouth Belevedere and Chevrolet Bel Air in 1957.
@@waynejohnson1304 thanks for the feedback. Since a week or 2 i got hooked on the fords from 1960 like the starliner or the thunderbird. The kind of beauty you don’t see today.
@@luckym0nk3y I agree. None of today's cars are what I would call awe-inspiring either.
@@luckym0nk3y A neighbor up the street from us father had a 60'Ford. I never liked the styling. At the time we had a 55' Rocket 88 Oldsmobile 2 door hard top. Another 50s classic. I wish my father would have kept it.
I love getting to see these videos! So neat.
I’m convinced, where do I get one?
I'd take the 57 desoto...
I'll take the 1957 Chrysler which had the cleanest design.
My husband's best friends parents had a 1957 Desoto with a heritage probably blow the doors off both
Oops I meant a hemi
Along with the Ramblers, the '57 GM cars that actually still had chair-height seating. Those Mopars were, across the line, famous for their thin, underpadded seats.
I always remember the 58 Chevy and the beginning of the X-frame GM's. These were known for breaking half in side collisions and dropping the rear bumpers on the ground when rusted.
My father worked as a body-and-fender man at a Pontiac dealer at this time...and by 1958, they were selling patch panels to deal with the rust that blossomed on Plymouths (and for that matter, other Chrysler products--not to mention Fords!) And by '58, the tail lights on the Plymouth were in roughly the same place as they were on the '57 Chevy!)
This early '57s had metal treatment issues, as well as some torsion bar issues (they were too thin), maybe the cost of all new design had a negative effect on the product's quality but, that was for sure solved by the "face lifted" '58 model. I have one and it is safe to say it is surprising, even to modern standards, how it corners for being a 50's car, the smoothness of its shifting and power once you want to overtake, the crazy amount of room in it and the comfort. Brakes are sure not the best, that has to be said as well. Sure the analisis if the video is purely trying to sell Plymouths and trying to underestimate the Chevy in a quite ridicule and annoying way. But sure Chrysler corp suspensions, engines, transmissions... Were ahead back in the day.
Mr. Walter Chrysler and his company were always ahead with implementing new innovative engineering. Great example was hydraulic braking systems at a time when Henry Ford was slow to abandon cable actuated brakes.
Actually, the Plymouth's brakes were indeed better PROVIDING they are properly adjusted and "bedded in". Properly adjusting them is the problem with them.
The 58 was better, and even faster.
@@michaelbenardo5695 Adjusted mines many times and were fully rebuilt.. Front "total contact" brakes with twin wheel cylinders worked fine the first first or second step on them... But never the third.... I ended by fitting front disc brakes... Everything was solved. With this brakes and power steering, its nearly like driving a modern thing!
@@riejurv50 To properly adjust them, you need a Brake Gauge, or a dummy drum. Otherwise, for a long time until they wear in, they will be lousy.
I'm convinced, I will head down to my local Plymouth dealer and buy a brand new Plymouth Fury!
Both beautiful cars
Both were great looking cars but the Chevy had that iconic ‘50s styling
The little “beep” was the signal to hit the button for the next slide. This was a “film strip” with an accompanying sound recording. This was better than trying to get salespeople to read a training manual, and the little slide projector and phonograph were much less expensive and easier to run than a regular movie projector.
Around the third "bink" I was transported through time, back to my childhood classroom. There is a hypnotic Pavlovian effect from that "ding". "Fresh stimuli coming!" Slide shows remained viable and used right up to the early '90's in corporate stuff. Partly "if it ain't broke" and partly because slides could be easily edited for the market. Then came computers...
I was 3 years old when this came out
There's no doubt in my mind , the 57 Chrysler s looked great and as popular as the 57 Chevy is and was it is not as impressive in the styling depth.
Having said that I owned a 59 (58 Equivilent US model) right hand drive Australian assembled Desoto Firesweep that were arguably generally better assembled than some of the US model Chrysler bodies as they were considered luxury vehicles here and the South Australian assembly plant workers took a bit more care IMO.
It had the 361cu 305 hp V8 providing plenty of power and through the excellent 3 speed Torqueflite not a 2 speed Powerglide as in the Chevy.
Maybe due to Australia's warmer and drier climate rust was not as much of a problem and my 59 was still rust free in 1976.
I also believe the Desoto was the better looking of the models, Plymouth, Dodge, except for the Chrysler 300 series, the Desoto's beautiful front grille and those 59 Caddy style bullet tail lamps were stunning IMHO.
It was quite a stable platform and with a firmer set of shock absorbers handled very well and would stop on a dime, off course brake fade was a possibility on all drum brake models.
I did have to replace some torsion bar/ front suspension bushes however but the replacements are held up well.
Interestingly many American based models made in Australia were factory fitted with front disc brakes well before basic US models in the mid 60's.
That Plymouth was pretty sweet riding on the interstate, over the chevy ....i am a lover of the 1954 belair and 1956 belair, never really liked the '57 or 58 belair's. Between 1965 and 1970 Chrysler dodge Plymouth ruled!
Was the Plymouth auto trans the Powerflite or Torqflite?
Those 57 Plymouth’s are definitely good looking, and make for a good movie car. I personally like the 55 Chevy more over the 57. The 55/56 Ford was also nice.
I believe we will all agree that 1957 was a banner year for the American Auto Industry. Three Brother friends had one each of Chevy, Plymouth Fury and Ford. My favorite was the Ford however, the Chevy was one of the all times favorites.
Oh what a beautiful Plymouth.
I am sold I am headed to the Plymouth dealer right now to pre-order one of these. Think I will name the car Christine
I remember when both these cars were plentiful on the road when I was a kid. My next door neighbor was a cab driver and had a 57 Ply. which doubled as the family car which was common back then. That being said I have always been a big fan of the 57 Chevy. The 57 Chevy in the 2 door model is just a bad ass looking classic styled car. Think of the 1950s and the 57; Chevy is a great representation. The 57 Ply was over styled until it looked clunky. I thought so then, though the style has grown on me but can't stand up to the 57 Chevy styling.
When Christine came out, I had told my dad what a cool car the Plymouth was. He said the Chrysler products were garbage. Squeaks, rattles, engine and trans problems. My dad had a 56 Chevy in the day. None of my family liked Chrysler products. We are from South of Pittsburgh. Of course every car rusted out there!
Too bad the 57 Plymouth was so poorly built. Conceptually, it truly is a superior car. These 57s were originally going to be 58s, which meant the 57 was a mass produced prototype. The 58 was just as beautiful, even faster, and better quality.
The Plymouth has faded into the sunset many years ago, and the 1957 Chevrolet is a very popular car then and very popular today.
Not since the movie "Christine" hit theaters back in 1983. Now you'll pay more for a '57 or '58 Plymouth, especially a 2 door model than a '57 Chevy.
Anybody ever notice how much the famour '57 Chevy looks like the '56 Plymouth?
All the 50's cars had more style than cars today. And, although most of the cars were rusting through within 5 years, especially if you lived in the Midwest, Chrysler products were the worst. They did offer some strong engines, however.
and yet more hyperbole repeated.
The 58 was better. GM's 58s were the best quality 1958 cars. They didn't rust.
@@michaelbenardo5695 that x frame tho 🥶🥶🥶
@@tedkaczynski3126 That's a design issue, not so much a quality issue. Mercedes used a similar frame in the 50s.
Why did I watch this? I already want a 1958 fury. So why would I watch an ad for one????.? I’m so jealous
Any 57 Plymouth’s still in use? Not as many as 57 Chevy.
Very cool.
This was a lot of fun to watch,
But for my money, I’ll take the Studebaker.
📻🤣
All Chrysler products came with electric wipers - GM was still using vacuum wipers.
My 57 Chevy coupe had electric wipers and came from the factory that way.
@@toltec13 excellent
My fathers Australian 1948 Chev Stylemaster had factory electric wipers. Yet GM Holden here had vacuum wipers until 1962 or so. So maybe depended on what part of GM's wide range of makes and models.
Chevy had electric wipers in 55..
If the 57 Plymouth was so great, how come you never see one at a car show? But you see many 55, 56, and 57 Chevys. The only good parts from a 57 Plymouth were the full cone styled wheel covers. These were on many cars of the time. The rest of the car was rust bucket junk.
I can't afford a 57 Plymouth but at least have a 58 Chev. Either is still better than the 57 Chev in my opinion.
Anyone with a CB or ham radio could hear a 58 Chevy coming from a couple blocks away. They had the noisiest ignition system of any car on the road at the time.
@@memyname1771 interesting.
That darn Edsel was the machine boy
Studebaker was the car to have. They built some monsters.
The anouncer must be an old "politician",,because it's getting DEEP!
I like the 57 Chevy better, I wouldn't mind owning either one, but would prefer the Chevy, I dad owned 6 57's when I was a kid. They are one of my favorites.
In new condition, I’d like either of these cars better than what’s in my driveway right now.
The Riverside Casio has a '57 Plymouth and '57 Chevy next to each other in their museum. The Chevy might as well be a '54. The Plymouth is longer lower wider, "four" headlights. My Parents had '57 Plymouth. I remember my Dad saying the brakes left a lot to be desired. Better than doesn't mean good!
Suddenly it's 1960. Except for Chrysler brakes, which were still 1950.
@@StreetFreaksGarage But they had the look of four headlights.
@@StreetFreaksGarage Yes 2 headlights. Electric wipers vaccum wipers are HORRIBLE!!!!!!.
Those chevys are well know for broken chassis and undercarriage Rust
I rode many miles in both types of car as a kid. There were two 57 Chevies on my block, and a friend's dad had a 57 Plymouth he drove us took to the lake two or three summers. Once, playing around in the Plymouth when it was parked, I pushed 2 of the buttons on the push-button transmission, and, to my horror, they got stuck. Cover plate came off with a couple screws, and it was an easy fix.
I remember the power steering in that car as being "one-finger" control. I can't say I was particularly crazy about the looks of either, but then I didn't necessarily dislike them. Ironically, I liked the tail lights on the 58 Plymouth more, and they were very similar to the 57 Shaker's.
All that said, I'd have to say Plymouth made a pretty compelling case for themselves here. 290 horse, dual quad engine option? Way more tranny options with even overdrive available?? Except for the fact that the Chevy had that cool door in the fin hiding the gas cap, the Plymouth would seem to be the better buy. Nonetheless, car collectors certainly ended up favoring the Chevy.
The first car I ever rode in was my Dad's 48 Plymouth. It had a great big gorgeous logo of a square-rigged sailing ship on the huge horn button in the middle of the steering wheel. Maybe it wasn't as big as I remember; after all, back then I could stand on the backseat and jump up and down, no problem.
It's always weird to me how many seemingly timeless, 'permanent' auto brands and divisions have disappeared. Besides Plymouth, there's Oldsmobile, which, I think, was the second oldest marque in the world at the time they were shuttered. Mercury, DeSoto, Imperial, Packard, Hudson, the entire American Motors as well as Studebaker... Car biz is brutal.
How could you forget Pontiac!
Bad quality control rusted the Plymouth .............even four doors are hard to find
i had a 58 plymouth belvedere it had 313 cu i engine a real good all around car
you've got me sold, i would have bought the plymouth.
8:10 ah... the "years behing stick selector" of the Chevy - as opposed to the radio buttons of the Chrysler that were there to stay 🤪
Yeah the Chevys are still out there on the road. But when's the last time you saw one of those Plymouths on the road or even at a show or a cars and coffee, hum?
Well, there's always the McDonald's defense...
That is because the "all new body" lacked rustproofing.
I've got a 57 plymouth all original and rust free. It depends on what part of the country there from for rust issues.
Sales of the big Plymouth plummeted in the following years due to the poor quality of this 1957 model. Chrysler Corporation should have either waited to introduce this design until 1958...or kept the new body and kept a conventional suspension at least for this model year to take pressure off their engineering staff. The 1957 Chevrolet had an older taller design but the quality was better than both Plymouth and Ford that model year.
Actually, ALL sales plummeted (Except Rambler) because of a recession
@@Robbi496 The U.S. recession happened in 1958.
@@Rick-S-6063 ...and so did the fall introduction of the 1958 models.
@@Rick-S-6063 Two seat cars are a small niche market. The 1958 Thunderbird had a very late introduction but sold well because it was a new design and created a new personal luxury market. U.S. industry sales were weak for the rest of the industry (except Rambler) during the 1958 model year for two reasons: economic recession and bad styling. GM had decent quality but Harley Earl's final designs were awful, especially Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Buick. FoMoCo suffered with Edsel and Lincoln/Continental which were turkeys and Mercury which didn't sell too well. Chrysler had better quality than 1957 but the public wasn't so sure.
All car sales fell the next year, 1958 was a massive recession year, now considered a depression year. What an ass.
Look at which one is an icon and a collector car. Nuf said......
They both are.
@@CycolacFan. Exactly
I like Chevy better.
Motion.. thrust.. power...
Just what I thought.
That's what she said...
all this talk by plymouth..yet they skipped over any talk of the 6 cylinder engines ....i guess they didnt want to talk about their outdated flathead 6
1957 was one of the few years that FORD was the top selling brand. More than Chevy and more than Plymouth. These days the 1957 Chevy seems to be a more popular buy for the antique car buyer. My father had a 1957 Chevy Bel Air two door coupe. Black exterior with red interior. Three speed stick shift with 6 cylinder engine. Hardly a high performance vehicle but to my eye a more attractive car than the Plymouths. Come 1964 he traded it in for a 1964 Chevy Impala 4 door sedan, so my time behind the wheel was short. So Chrysler cars were indeed "trend setters" but still could not attract all that many buyers away from Chevy.
It was a close race between Ford and Chevrolet in 1957. Ford had two different wheelbases and an all new design. Quality of the Ford body was worse than Chevrolet but better than Plymouth. The 1958 and 1959 Ford were better made but the styling was worse.
i had a 57 ford fairlane convertable with a 292 cui v8 itwas a piece of crap if the temp went below freezing it would not start
These now Dead sales men didn't like the Chevy back in 1957 Jump to 2023 my cousin just sold his 1957 Chevy business coupe 289V8 2 door...for $30,000
It's 1960.... And the 57 Plymouth is already rusted into the ground
I see 57 chevys all the time, and a 57 Chrysler product maybe once a year, I drive trucks
Ford won the sales race in 1957. Funny how the film never mentions Ford. They were totally new in '57 as well.
Good Lord how embarrassing, i've always loved 50's cars but the 57' Chevy was always outdated & i never understood why it's the 'Face' of the 50's Car when Plymouth or other MoPar's, heck even other manufacturers were so far ahead of the curve with not only styling but mechanical features
You've got me sold, except i wasn't even born in 1957.
Plymouth styling with Chevrolet build quality would have been a fantastic car.
I’ve seen several immaculate low mileage ‘57 and ‘58 Plymouths and every one had the optional factory underseal.
Chevrolet build quality? Let me tell you about my Bereta
@@anthonyfalzon57 was it built in the 1950s...? 😄
I would have still picked the Chevy. Chrysler after they got rid of KT Keller, started to scrimp on build quality for flamboyant design. If they had kept their legendary durability and quality combined with great styling, Chrysler would have regained the number 2 spot.
In '52 Walter Briggs died. Chrysler fearing that a competitor would buy the company rushed to buy Briggs. The engineers found that building their own bodies was difficult and costly - especially since the other manufacturers no longer would buy thousands of bodies made in the former Briggs plants. Briggs bodies were high quality - weren't rust prone. Chrysler kept the production of the Chrysler/DeSoto makes bodies nearly the same as under Briggs management, but did cost cutting on Dodge and Plymouth. The engineering cost studies lead to building the Dodge and Plymouth bodies in 1960 at the assembly plants - the "unibody" - Mopar body quality improved in the '60s. This is a reason that mid to late '50s Mopars suffer from the "tin worm".
I’m not so sure durability sells anything. Look at f series trucks.
They’ve sold millions despite the modular shitshow. And the 2009 + cab off service trucks people will buy anything that looks good.
However fleets will not.
In truck upfitting, 2008 and down f trucks were dominating fleet sales
2009 came and that was it. All of a sudden we were building dodge and Chevy trucks day in and day out. 2010 and 11 we did just a handful of fords.
Mostly gassers. A lot of fleets don’t like diesels because they are noisy in urban areas…enter Ford with the 6.0l
Scorpion. Holy shit! Put a pto on and the truck sounds like a bag of hammers. At idle. And right at that moment gm decided to get out of medium trucks completely.
For a couple of years it was nothing but dodge. But they couldn’t supply them fast enough. Because Cummins couldn’t build engines fast enough.
Fleets are fickle. They will buy what doesn’t break but if you can’t supply or service fast enough they move on.
To v10 fords until the 6.7 came out
Then they started buying those
As fast as they could because they were more tolerant of the b20 they like to burn. Long story short they go with what works but if you can’t fix them they will move on to what they can fix
Good bad or ugly.
Ps GM is back in the medium market but apparently not in Canada. They’ve left it to the partner in their new medium trucks international to deal with Canada. Strange because a lot of tow company’s here stuck with gm even when the best they could do was a 3500. And they paid extra to uprate the springs etc so they could use gm trucks.. no reward for loyalty to gm in Canada. But yeah. That’s Generic Motors for ya.
Yeah but which one became iconic?
That settles it. I'm going right down to my dealer and buying a 57 Plymouth.
I like the styling of the Plymouth,but the sad fact is that by 1960 you would be shovelling up your 57 Plymouth up off the driveway.From a power train perspective they were very good tho.
The rear of the 57 chev looks almost identical to the 56 plymouth
Too bad they didn't show not even one shot of the 1957 Plymouth Fury. I loved it!
I remember those Rambler commercials, you won't hear any squeaks, lol.
If I liked at that time, I would, after all this, buy a '57 Buick Century.
in 1958 plymouth reversed the tailights and backup lights.
Lol and today which car is the classic?
Still fun to watch though.
Them late 50s Plymouths were pretty cool cars tho.
I was born when this came out.
I was next year's model
As most people don't know Ford outsold Plymouth and Chevy for 1957 so they should have compared to Ford . Plymouth had all new styling for 1957 but so did Ford and Thunderbird sales were 5 times Corvette sales , it would get worse in 1958 with the 4 seat Thunderbird . This was made early in the model year when they assumed that Chevy would be the best seller , but the better built Fords were their true competition they just didn't know it yet . As by 1959 Plymouth products had a poor reputation for build quality that was well deserved .
If it wasn't for Stephen King, this generation of Plymouth would have been forgotten about.
1960 vs. timeless... who won in the end.... I wonder
Chevy that's why thay are still here
And the winner is: the 57 Chevy!
Everybody still wants a 57 Chevy not many are out looking for a 57 Plymouth
05:50 Remember what the say about Plymouths 56' tail fin? "Plymouth done it in 56', but Chevy done it right in 57'.
chevy's steering wheel looks like a nose breaker, if you get into a accident.
12:21 lol @that
I'm surprised that Chrysler never had an answer to the Vette and the T-Bird!
Which one is worth a fortune now..That is the true test of time.
2:59...Early '50's Chrysler product on the right to the '57 Chevy on the left..."Eat my smog!"
The Bel Air was better looking then, and it's an iconic classic now. No one cares about the Plymouth. The Bel Air still attracts crowds.
Harley Earl was a legend.
My 57 Plymouth gets plenty of attention.when people see it. The 57 Chev is certainly a good looking car, but it's mopar for me.
A lot of people love these Plymouths, the Chevy survival rate was far better since they were better built. Plymouths rotted out within three years.
Put them side by side today and car enthusiasts will be more interested in the far rarer Plymouth than the 20 or more Tri-Chevies you see at every show.