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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.พ. 2018
- Diablo creator David Brevik recounts his fascinating career making games, including how a Justice League game led to Diablo, the meteoric success of Diablo and Diablo II, his years at Blizzard, and what he's up to now.
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Brevik coming for a chat? I think I will stay a while and listen.
Rich M good one!
Is it good or bad that I can hear that in the original voice?
@Elvathar Right there with you, brother :-)
Ayyyyyy
He sounds like Larzuk though 😂
One of my earliest childhood memories is watching my older (deaf) brother play Diablo II and I would tell him when gems, Rings, amulets and eventually runes would drop!
Great share !! Just to show that this game was fun for everyone, creating different sort of memories and situations
Diablo 1 will always be my personal favourite of the series. I know many ARPGs follow Diablo II's example, but goddamn was Diablo 1 a memorable experience. It was less about treasure hunting and more about trying to survive.
Hell yeah!! Agreed
@@DjZephy hell yeah indeed
Diablo 1 pre-hellfire is great. 2 has it’s moments but many gameplay decisions make it feel more like a junk food game to me. beyond those two the sequels aren’t worth talking about..
This guy has provided millions of us with countless hours of fun. He's like the Miyamoto of the West.
When the picture of The Skeleton King makes you go back and play Diablo 1...
this guy is an industry legend.
His norwegian cousin is pretty famous aswell :P
An anomaly of sheer beauty
As soon as i seen the beard i automatically knew he was a legend
@@pdr05 the beard confirms it
Lol correct the beard is instant authority
Damn IGN give him a glass of water at least 😂. David talks 10 times more and you can see his eye goes to that metal thermostat every time the host takes a sip.
Did Ryan take a drink? I was enthralled in what they were saying I didn't even notice.
He might've been offered before the interview and turned it down.
Thermos not thermostat. one is a drink container, the other controls a rooms temperature
lol, thanks for explaining to them with exact detail-@@nomadjensen8276
I will never be able to sleep over the thought that Diablo 3 design could have been closer to Diablo 2 than Warcraft 3. This kills me.
I feel you, man. I often times start commenting with my brother (or just a monologue in my head) about how diablo 3 disrespected the diablo 1 and 2 legacy, from art style to story and ridiculous retcons (specifically Aidan being Leoric's son, that one kills me).
You mean WoW? D3 is nothing like WC3…
Path of Exile is the spiritual successor to Diablo 2 ; Lord of Destruction. D2;LoD is still an absolute masterpiece worth an offline LAN playthrough with your friends. Magnificent. Thank you David.
"either Diablo game"
D3 fans triggered.
what fans
I think most of the playerbase just tolerate it.
53:25 for clarification. lol
Jiggerjaw if you like chinese art and video games then d3 is for you! Definetly d3 is trash and nothing like the other 2
You could look at it another way, they were only talking about the first 2, at this time.
Dhat game holds my childhood, alongside with Baldur's Gate, Age of Empire, Starcraft, Heroes of Might and Magic...
Marcelo M.M. I've never played Baldur's Gate, is it still a good game to play in 2018? Or do you think it would be too dated? I played a game called Icewind: Dale once, and greatly enjoyed it. I think they're both along the same playstyle.
Lord Krythic Icewind Dale is the "quick start and fight" version of Baldurs Gate, both share the same engine, so, if you enjoyed ID, you wil love the original.
I will forever be thankful for this man for giving me one of the best years of my childhood. Btw i just finished Baal in Nightmare difficulty 😂😂😂
Gz x)
How can you invite a guest for an hour long+ interview and only bring something to drink for yourself. :o
Daymm... I can't unsee this now :/
Yeah, I noticed that too. Awkward.
Well considering that he's not 4 years old, i think he has the ability to ask for a drink and manage his own thirst like an adult. Its not rude to say "hey need to grab a drink" on a one hour show with such a relaxed format. PRETTY SURE he simply wasn't thirsty.
It's nice to offer the Legend something to drink, but maybe he did before the show and David didn't want anything to drink, who knows.
daerthan totally agreed with you buddy 😂😂
Blizzard may have more money and employees than it once did, but it doesn't have a soul anymore. The company and people that made the classic games no longer exists. I mean Brevik has been gone for a decade, Bill Roper has been gone a long time, Chris Metzen retired...The guys who made up the heart and soul of the company and who were the brainiacs behind the classics aren't there. Blizzard was once like, a small band of brothers who took risks (RPGs were a dead genre when Diablo was developed; it was a big risk)...Now they're just another corporation who pushes out product after product.
keep preachin brudda
Activision...
not sure. Overwatch for one was a success, finely polished, well thought out and an innovation on the current best class shooter team fortress 2. Hearthstone was a labor of love, it wasn't developed originally as a commercial product, it was an internal passion project. Diablo 3.... they tried to be original and to me atleast it didnt feel like a diablo game, diablo isnt diablo without feeling a bit opressive, the combat is way too fast and also they completely fuxed up the itemization and made it quite plain.
@@mauriciorossi8477 Hearthstone wasn't developed as a commercial product? HA! That's so cute. Dude, Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone are blatant cashgrabs. Don't be so naive xD
Matt Uelmen also was _very_ important to the team
Diablo 2 the best game ever
Truly spectacular for it's time and still very playable to a basic enjoyable degree today, lots of nostalgia to back it up. The entire loot acquisition system functions, but not to an enjoyable degree. There's thousands of bugs and balance issues and as fun as the builds have been, there's not a lot to choose from, (without getting stale at a point.)
Been playing D2 since it's launch (still do on Path of Diablo) and it's the same old cookie-cutter stuff. The game hasn't aged well, but has left me with great memories. I am more than confident if it received a massive overhaul and remaster, it would be the #1 ARPG game, once again. Fingers crossed!
i think Remastered will not bring me away from D2 cause i still play Median XL :) and i doubt mods will work on it :/
still to this day easily the best game of its genre. A classic.
Not even close but it's a good game.
well who cares... just play path of exile if u want to play "real d3" :D
I still have so many fond memories of playing that first Diablo demo when I got my first PC.
Can't believe this is happening!!! David Brevik is the top 3 most interesting to listen to people in the industry. Glad Unfiltered is resurrected.
This is one of the best segments on IGN, so amazing to see the passion from the developers and giving them an opportunity to share these awesome stories.
I'm shocked to find myself enjoying IGN content.. the last time this happened, TH-cam didn't exist.
m0rthaus so true. I feel the same way.
Exactly my position
Wow..I had to remember my days on ign forums looking at various game walkthoughs
@@bamnasitis775 im a gamefaqs guy, through and through.
This interview was rated 11/10 IOTY. "Must see before you die" --"This interview changed the way I watch interviews forever" --"Gritty, action packed, honest interview"
David Brevik is keeping the 90's alive with that eyebrow ring.
its funny how back then these games were made so fast, and so many decision by the seat of their pants. Tacking in multiplayer 6 months before release? Maybe the small team with passion is why these games turned out so good
Yeah. Nowadays there is so much planning and what seems to be, a lot less passion.
TheDeecWun Kush all for the money like u said for the passion and the team loved there job
Back then, screen sizes were rarely larger than 640x480 resolution. That’s 307,200 pixels. Nowadays, the average screen size is 1920x1080 pixels. That’s 2,073,600 pixels. That’s 675% more pixels.
That’s a lot more pixels to work with, not to mention a lot more RAM, a lot more hard drive space, a lot more powerful graphics card, and a lot more powerful CPU, all to work with. When faced with that huge amount of resources, it’s easy to see why AAA gaming is the way it is today: these companies try to use all of the resources available to them.
In general, using those resources to their utmost requires a lot more manpower (or in the case of highly skilled developers, smarter and more efficient use of existing manpower), and a lot more money to employ that extra manpower (or to increase the wages of the smarter, more efficient workforce they employ). More technical capabilities leads to more resources leads to higher manpower requirements to use all of those resources leads to the need for larger financial success to employ the manpower to use all the new resources effectively. Thus, modern AAA gaming chases the buck at the expense of the player, because there’s no other way to push the technical boundaries of what games can be otherwise. And, when traditionally “small teams with passion” try to team up to recreate a AAA experience, the result is more often games like No Man’s Sky (a small studio of 18 people, whose previous game was Joe Danger, an indie game) and less often games like Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice (AAA game made on a shoestring budget).
Small teams simply can’t leverage all the resources modern computers can use (they obviously use some of them, but they are rarely gonna max out your RAM or CPU or graphics card in an attempt to render all the stuff on screen, or calculate AI behavior, or insert-any-game-feature), and that means small teams with passion are no longer pushing the boundaries of the technology of game development. Sure, they can still make great games, but the next technical showcase like Crysis is never gonna come out of an indie studio again.
Gaming has grown up, and has become a lot more powerful, technically and artistically. To long for the past and wish for it to come back is to throw under the bus the future that those “small teams with passion” back then laid the foundation for; those “small teams with passion” laid the foundation for today’s AAA games industry. It’s bass-ackwards to act like we don’t want gaming to have a future and that it should slavishly chase the past at the expense of what games could otherwise be doing; if those “small teams with passion” back then followed that philosophy, games would never have evolved beyond paper-and-pen RPGs. We would never have had VR. No consoles, no PC games, because back then the “good old days” was Dungeons and Dragons. Computer gaming would be this ultra-obscure garbage made by hipsters for hipsters, building off of the one-off successes of PAC-Man and its ilk.
Chasing the past prevents growth and development. Best to keep the memories of the past as just that: memories. We’ll always remember the days of being PK-killers, and having better hacks than anybody else to stomp the other hackers. We’ll always remember the first time we roll for initiative. However: what are we gonna play next? Where do we go from there? That, in my opinion, is a LOT more exciting than wanting our childhood games to come back with a shiny new coat of paint.
7 dislikes? Must be the prime and lesser evils.
Diablo II : Best of All Time !!!
Hearing about Richard Garriot from David Brevik... not to mention him starting with an Apple II+ (like I did)... is just the best thing ever.
MAN I miss Richard Garriot... and Jon Van Caneghem too.... and Romero/Carmack... *SIGH*
Man, listening to this makes me really want a "The Social Network" kinda movie but about game development like this.
So this is the man that I must thank. I was 12 when d2 came out that June. I literally stayed inside the whole summer lol 😆 love you man!
I owe this man a lot. You and your teams two games Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 converted me into a passionate gamer. Thank you so much for those gifts in my life..playing those two games are some of my most fondest memories in gaming
Still play D2 and still love it .
Boogie Woo on classic or lod.?
Lod. think most people play lod nowadays
I play D2 LoD in HC on plugy
did he said that he created a 2nd d2 expansion, and got no more questions about it.
lol
I know right!?
Fantastic interview David Brevik's story of learning programming on a computer disecting artciles from Byte magazine or whatever mag he got them from was exactly how I learned program on the Commodore 64. I only wish my life had turned out as well as his. Life choices can take you on so many paths!!
There is only one thing I find here that is really disturbing me. As a professional, you bring drinks for you, but don't let the guy have a sip of water for 1 and a half hour while he is constantly talking. I mean it's reporter 101, take care of your guest.!
I feel like the real reason Blizzard North was disbanded was because a Diablo 3 from Brevik wouldhave made WoW appear hollow and boring by comparison.
Interesting, it might be the case.
This show needs it's own Channel or at least a playlist here on IGN.
There's a playlist. I'm surprised the videos get _that few_ views.
This show is so important in providing history and insight into a fascinating industry. It is essential viewing and a breath of fresh air amongst the fun/cool but repetitive content which permeates the TH-cam gaming channels. Long may it continue Ryan!
yeah, i feel that some strange evil is permeating in the air through your comment :D
Let's be honest, diablo 3 was crap. Diablo II and LOD was amazing
Diablo 1 for its time, was my favorite gaming experience. Diablo 2, for its time, was my second favorite gaming experience. Diablo 3, for its time, made me get a refund so I could buy a Path of Exile beta key.
I played Diablo 3 for 10 hours and then that is it ! It's new, it isn't a bad game but it didn't give me the feeling that im playing a Diablo game ! I remember that i got so disappointed that i tried to push through the story but it's just another typical RPG that i could find on any market in China
All three are great, in my experience. Diablo 3 started out rough, absolutely, and they have worked hard to make it a lot better, and they've succeeded, to me. D3 on the console is an amazing game, and a somewhat different game than the PC version.
Souths very slick graphics look great but at the same time take away much of what was DII, Diablo 4 should be D II with the D3 graphics engine and updated DII models. But don't tell Blizzard they no longer care about having the best rpg on the market.
d2 community still thriving hahaha. Also replying to a year old comment ftw.
I'm sorry but this interview is absolutely amazing! Diablo brings back some incredible memories for me growing up and to see the person that brought that to life is actually inspiring. I chose a creative industry for my career path due to my love for video games! Great job on the interview!!!
If you read this, really good stuff Ryan! As a programmer it is so cool and fun to hear stories from legends like this. At the end when he talks about building games from the ground up with his own engine in C, not even C++, that is insaaaaaane, no one would do that anymore, but he learned all the tricks of the trade back in the day and it is second nature! Super cool, what a god.
Great interview! Thanks for everyone's hard work on these shows and the devs who are kind enough to indulge our curiosity on the media we love. The best media humans make! VIDEOGAMES!
Some people wish for successful careers, true love, health and happiness... I wish for Brevik to spearhead the creation of a potential Diablo 4 title.
Best show on IGN! Keep up the great work, Ryan :)
I will, thank you!!
Still wonder why no other game outlet has done this yet. Kudos for doing it :D
Prepare to Try is the best... But yeah, this one is close second
yeah i really enjoy the behind the scenes stuff us normal people dont see
Lord Nuker Hey Lord Nuker, if you haven't watched the content on NoClip yet you owe it to yourself to check it out.
Awesome interview! Thank You! I remember all the great times I had back then when Diablo came out. I spent so many hours with that game. Was such a blast. I love Diablo 2 and Diablo 3, but nothing will have the same feelings that Diablo had. The game was so eerie and tense. Even today when I hear the awesome sound clips from the game it takes me back.
Seeing the computer gaming take off back then was such a cool experience.
Thank You David and thank You Blizzard!
Really enjoyed that interview, I felt like I was with David at every job. Love seeing this kind of passion.
Solid interview! Very interesting to hear. I've seen multiple interviews with Brevik, but this was very well narrated and down-to-earth, pinned lots of funny details and it's such an amazing story of how things has evolved from when he started in the industry and till present time. He's a very interesting and inspirational man.
Love these type of videos. Great work, Ryan!
What did you think of Diablo III?
"I though it was great. I thought it really held up the Diablo legacy."
*crickets*
Let's talk about Hellgate London...
Yeah like i think he just plain lied on that one
I am by no means a sports fan by any stretch. However, in my youth one of my favorite games was Super High Impact! The more I learn about this David Brevik guy the more I admire/respect him.
Can someone finally ask him about the crazy complex drop system D2 has and who came up with that and defined all the probabilities.
It was probably him.
Not really all that crazy and complex when its just suffix and prefix connotations
i mean item generation. The stuff where each monsters builds a treasure class weighted tree\graph (with numerous equipment tiers, and items having different probabilities inside tiers) and does up to a gazilion of rolls to determine the item from it, then chooses quality (probabilities also differ on a good dozen of factors), then chooses extra stuff like stats variations...
oh yea, looking at its code would hurt my head don't remind me :p
meh... maybe it's complex when you look at the code, but when you read (if you still can get somewhere one of those) Jarulf's guide to D2 it starts to be obvious. it was started back in D1 and then evolved somehow in D2. so it's old mechanic that was designed to grind the game. if you want to complete game? ok, easy peasy, few hours, bye. but D1 was something new back then. people wanted to stay with the game so they've neede some purpose. then drop system comes in. now look at D3 drop system... you think it's better? :x
Awesome insight from brevik. Being a huge Diablo fan, this interview really amazed me! Good job guys!
I love every unfiltered. Keep going
Great interview, but next time give the man a class of water, he was eyeballing your thermos every time you took a sip 😂🤣😂
So juicy: it's really cool to hear the details of all the things he only mentions about Diablo in his Classic Game post-mortem talk.
Amazing interview, so happy to see David Brevik being engaged with the gaming community at a time where developers have more of a voice than ever before. Can't wait for It Lurks Below!
This is such a great interview. Thanks Ryan and IGN. David Brevik changed my life! Also, Hellgate London was awesome, despite it's flaws. I loved that game!
50? ... if it wasn't for the gray hair he would look like 30
Hans Gerber, So true!
Exaclty my thoughts! He has a young looking face behind that huge beard.
It's funny to watch a man with that much experience and talent telling his story and then noticing how his story is actually quite similar to my own.
The only difference between our stories is that I was a graphic designer and not in video games in the beginning and video games was what I decided to start working on when I was facing this ultimatum: Web Designing or Game Development? (There's also our age as I'm almost 31 so I got plenty of time left.)
But the difficulties David Brevik had when he was working on his own project, I have lived through those myself over the last 2 years. Built quite a couple of games up to their prototypes stage with fully functional systems and all, but ended up putting those on ice since I would need, at least, a small team for 2-3 years to complete them. Then I went to a mobile game project which would have been alright... but money wise not that wise and finally returned to one of my oldest project, cut down "at least" half of the visual complexity of it (moved from photorealistic to cartoon-like, models have 5x-8x less polygons, the inventory system is simplified, etc.)
This is the best thing IGN is producing these days. I just finished the podcast and had to make a comment just so it could be heard. Another incredible episode Ryan! If IGN shuts down this show, I'll form a one-man riot.
David the legend !
I hope one day he returns to Blizzard to make a new Diablo.
Blizzard North (Condor) was never really considered part of Blizzard Entertainment. Most of the (former) employees of the two companies make the distinction. :D
iV1rus0 Blizzard is a cesspool. Blizzard North was a separate company. I hope he never goes to Blizzard
once u decide to leave u dont come back...logic
right they really hurt diablo and the fans with a cash grab game it fell like on relase.
wont happen his relationship with blizz is pretty negative especially after he ripped diabloe 3 apart when it was initially released (which he was 100% right about). He also cannot stand Activision so the fact that they merged is even worse.
this was an awesome interview!! Good work Ryan please never stop :)
Awesome interview, great here all those moments that made these games amazing!
48:00 - 52:00 loved this fight. When things go wrong and you barely make it. There isn't anything more satisfying. Can't wait to experience this again and within Pantheon.
Diablo and Fallout were the two games that got me into PC gaming. I didn't realize that Diablo had multiplayer until Diablo 2 came out.
I was so excited for D3. After playing it, I doubt I’ll give D4 a chance
I think sadly the both of us will still buy it because we will think "Surely they have learned from their mistakes". However, if they released that D4 will carry over D3 end game, Paragon levels and just GR I will definitely not buy it. No trading? I won't buy it.
D4 is no more lol
I wish he went into more detail of what those other characters that got axed were. Would of been interesting to know
Much respect to this man. I learnt a lot as a businessman, gamer, idealist and communicator just from this interview.
IGN ty so much for having a talk with this absolute legend this has been so long awaited
What A great video and interview. I love hearing about the history of this game and the creators
Awesome interview
Awesome interview! Diablo 2 is one of my all time favorite games, alongside age of empires 2, serious sam, counter strike 1.6... etc.
I remember seeing warcraft 1 at an electronics boutique and being mesmerized. never bought a console after that.
No one else is making this clever and interesting gaming industry content. I'm sure these are epensive for IGN to make - please keep them coming. What a great story!
Always a brilliant host, patient and probing, brilliant stories in this one! :)
Hellfire added a Monk class, not barbarian.
Also respecs has been in D2 for a long time. There's a quest reward in ACT1 that lets you reset your skill tree, you can do it once per difficulty.
Can't wait for "It Lurks Below"!
I'm at the age where I rather have a good, well designed retro looking game than a title with the latest in graphics technology. Take your time David, and deliver the game only when it's ready!
"Business Applications were so boring to me..." I feel you Brevik T-T
Diablo is my all-time favorite. No other game has consumed more of my free time. ❤️👍
I really wonder why Vivendi were so unhappy with Diablo 3 development compared to Diablo 2.
Thanks to Mr. Brevik and his team we have a game that still remains popular after 16 or so years with populatedservers across the world. Congratz and thank you for such a brilliant game!
About 17 years now.
P. S. Seriously, what number of games can boast that?
Man, these are the games of my childhood. First game I ever played online on dial-up was the first Diablo. #slowclap
And comparing battle stories and character builds and loots at school during breaks was what made Diablo 2 one of my all-time favourite games ever.
Interviewer is very likeable. Good job.
Woah this went pretty far back, and into good detail too. Nice work!
If you manage to bring Leonard Boyarski asnd ask him about Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines you´d make me HAPPY
He's a pioneer. He learned it from the ground up, because there was no one before him.
I think my favorite part of this interview is when he brings up blizzard's history of great april fools jokes
I need to say, Hellgate: London was my favorite game at release. I'm really sad it didn't became a success.
Same. It was an incredible game. Absolutely loved it.
I still have a copy of super high impact! That's awesome to think one of Diablo's creators worked on it, fun game.
Santa is real!! He made Diablo my best childhood gift!
That screen with the medieval game behind David, with the skeleton shining red, is that Diablo 1?
Yep
that was a cool interview thumbs up!
I liked Diablo way more than Diablo II
Stay a while and listen. Always cool to listen to David
I'm playing Diablo 2 while listening to this. Its gold.
I used to wonder as a kid why JL or Shadowrun on the Genesis and SNES were different games coming out near each other with the same title. I would have never thought of 2 developers back then.
But what about the gem in the chat window?!?!?! What’s it for???
Muted for disclosing fishing secrets.
Cool to see who was behind the game of Diablo never played but I want too start with diablo 2
I'd recommend just starting at D1. It won't take you long. Whatever you do though, hope you enjoy
Computer Boy the first one is great man. Check it out.
these are old games, u can even finish it in a few nights . would be better if u start with diablo 1 and expension
Zetrominator
I'd recommend checking out Diablo 1 before you dive into D2. Both of those games are so good they still haven't been able to capture the magic those two games created. Such a classic.
If you start with Diablo 2 you might not ever play the first one
Ryan’s like a different guy on Unlocked... He’s Much better here than on Unlocked. Great job man! Here’s to many many more Unfiltered episodes.
Yooooooooooo, this line/series is AWESOME! I'm used to IGN pissing me off, but this show is 👍👍👍👍. Host is absolutely great, too. Keep doing this.
What was the other character classes that didn't make Diablo 2?
I would love to interview David! I personally have never met him, but I'm pretty sure he knows who I am; Tifas-Revenge, #1 sorceress to level 99 on August 27th, 2004 during ladder season 2 - during the "When Worlds Collide" contest. :) Heck they even immortalized me in the timeline of Diablo events in the past! But hey, if you ever want to interview with me about how I got to level 99 in v1.10 so fast (1.5 months), I would be honored.
this interview should be at 10 million by now
David is one of my heroes. My gaming life started in 1996 with Diablo. Followed by Fallout then fallout 2 then diablo 2.
Chris Avellone is my other hero btw lol
Absolutely a great interview 😎