@@Ocarus0Cycleyou’re right. There’s nowhere near as much enjoyment to play, but it is more fun to watch. Ultimately a detrimental thing to the lifecycle of the game though
@@LukeNortherI agree. I think it probably kills the card, but I feel it’s already getting out of hand a bit. Too easy to get going with the current set. Rotation might fix it, as they lose death growl and reska. So the only way to double up on the DR is Buccaneer and Viper. Which makes it slightly easier to play around then.
As cool as this miniset is, i just can't bring myself to redownload this game lol. I feel like it'd only be setting up for disappointment, even though i really don't want to miss the event. Hope you enjoy it, Clark. Thanks as always for all your content! Great stuff. 😊
Honestly, Zerg DK is really strong right now and can snowball out of control when the conditions are met. But, I do agreed that it doesn’t need to be nerf. Yes, there are people who don’t like the new DK archetype but this deck depends on Infestor to work otherwise it’s dead in the water. Most of the games are won only if you are able to get a lot of value out of Infestor. Against most meta decks right now, if you don’t draw infestor by turn 5 then you are pretty much losing the late game. And based on the data collected in HSGuru, the deck performance hover around 50% - 55% compared to a stronger deck like Battlecruiser Shaman that are being played more and perform well over 58% - 62% winrate vs most meta decks right now.
Well, unfortunately for me, I haven't met too many DKs that don't have the pirate minion on 2 that makes every deathrattle reborn and then have the infestor right after that. It's like clockwork. It's been very annoying.
Rare opinion but I hope they don't even touch this deck. I'd rather play 2 months of nothing but Zerg DK mirror matches than go back to facing handbuff paladin, swarm/asteroid shaman and cycle rogue for the upteenth time.
I personally don’t play it, but I do agree it’s kinda refreshing to see board based decks becoming meta relevant again. The only thing I am worried about is how much the meta is warped around these aura effects. Sure the whole deck isn’t unbeatable per se. There are direct counters to it in multiple classes, there is deafen, hex, silences, well timed early giants from warlock or rogue or a similar stats push can beat it… but so overwhelming and so popular that playing anything like control/midrange paladin lists or control warrior pushes becomes kinda unthinkable. But as deck’s popularity isn’t necessarily tied to its power level (as we saw with reno warrior for example), I am not sure how much blizzard can do about it, except for buffing up something else which people might want to partially switch towards
I just had a nuts game. Beat a protoss mage by dropping buccaneer into infester into yodeler on the same turn with death growl to spread to the buccaneer and yodeler. I could see them nerfing death growl by making it only spread to zergs.
Day9 was playing this deck the other day and he got like a 8 winstreak. He literally just full muligan for the Infestor every game, the one game he didnt got it he lost
Im surpised priest didnt already calm down this Zerg DK, control priest got everything to suvive in that meta even armor (starships), he sucks on WindCond btw but i think it's just a question of time a priest will become a really good answer to this AND dungar druid
I can maybe see that angle. It’s a further kick in the teeth for control, as you pull their wincons. I had a few games where I could’ve come back but ended up getting my Boom, Fizzle, Boomboss etc pulled. (As you can probably tell, I’m a salty Hydration warrior enjoyer and I hate that this deck just murders control decks.
Also I don’t mind 1 or 2 vipers. But the fact they so consistently get additional copies of this just starts to tilt me. I could see Viper going to “give your minions reborn, they all attack a random minion”
They will probably give Infestor the +1 mana nerf in some patch eventually. This deck is just way too fast in it's current form. Deafen is a strong counter, but only Priest/Rogue has access to it while every other class just gets steamrolled.
Its a super broken deck rn yes. But they still have to be very careful with how they nerf it. Because dk already loses yodeller and death growl at rotation. It could drop from being the best deck to being a hot garbage deck very easily if they overkill it.
I played against the most zerg DK hater deck in existence he was running conductivity with the 4 hex cards, little naga boy to get more and would just fill my board with junk 0/1's.
I agree that double frost is the best. I hit legend with it today, feels very strong and on another level than all the other decks that I tried. Weapon rogue counters it hard. And Priest has some counters against it with deafen but if you play smart against them they don't pose that much of a threat. Infestor will probably go to 4 mana. Overall you should have no problems climbing with it, it's a cool deck with cool mechanics.
The perma +1 hp is messing up with reborn indeed. It's more like a ressurect effect, all zergs become like Cairn Bloodhoof, a legendary card.
u can’t compare 2025 hs with 2014
@@Ocarus0Cycleyou’re right. There’s nowhere near as much enjoyment to play, but it is more fun to watch.
Ultimately a detrimental thing to the lifecycle of the game though
Without it however the deck is useless 😂
The card needs card to only give +1 attack, give em some other kind of buff, the +1 hp is stupid
@@LukeNortherI agree. I think it probably kills the card, but I feel it’s already getting out of hand a bit. Too easy to get going with the current set.
Rotation might fix it, as they lose death growl and reska.
So the only way to double up on the DR is Buccaneer and Viper. Which makes it slightly easier to play around then.
As cool as this miniset is, i just can't bring myself to redownload this game lol. I feel like it'd only be setting up for disappointment, even though i really don't want to miss the event. Hope you enjoy it, Clark. Thanks as always for all your content! Great stuff. 😊
Honestly, Zerg DK is really strong right now and can snowball out of control when the conditions are met. But, I do agreed that it doesn’t need to be nerf. Yes, there are people who don’t like the new DK archetype but this deck depends on Infestor to work otherwise it’s dead in the water. Most of the games are won only if you are able to get a lot of value out of Infestor. Against most meta decks right now, if you don’t draw infestor by turn 5 then you are pretty much losing the late game. And based on the data collected in HSGuru, the deck performance hover around 50% - 55% compared to a stronger deck like Battlecruiser Shaman that are being played more and perform well over 58% - 62% winrate vs most meta decks right now.
Well, unfortunately for me, I haven't met too many DKs that don't have the pirate minion on 2 that makes every deathrattle reborn and then have the infestor right after that. It's like clockwork. It's been very annoying.
Rare opinion but I hope they don't even touch this deck. I'd rather play 2 months of nothing but Zerg DK mirror matches than go back to facing handbuff paladin, swarm/asteroid shaman and cycle rogue for the upteenth time.
I personally don’t play it, but I do agree it’s kinda refreshing to see board based decks becoming meta relevant again.
The only thing I am worried about is how much the meta is warped around these aura effects.
Sure the whole deck isn’t unbeatable per se. There are direct counters to it in multiple classes, there is deafen, hex, silences, well timed early giants from warlock or rogue or a similar stats push can beat it… but so overwhelming and so popular that playing anything like control/midrange paladin lists or control warrior pushes becomes kinda unthinkable.
But as deck’s popularity isn’t necessarily tied to its power level (as we saw with reno warrior for example), I am not sure how much blizzard can do about it, except for buffing up something else which people might want to partially switch towards
There's two more factions on the miniset
It's an ok deck board based and fun
Orbital moon with the banelings are free full health after a few infestors. I cant even tell how many times it saved my ass
Honestly, Zerg dk meta much better as the old stuff. 😅
Just popular, not the best WR, again its this fcn dungar...
I just had a nuts game. Beat a protoss mage by dropping buccaneer into infester into yodeler on the same turn with death growl to spread to the buccaneer and yodeler. I could see them nerfing death growl by making it only spread to zergs.
lol why would it only spread to zergs😂 it’s not part of that mini set. Most likely nerf the mana cost or spread to one adjacent minion.
Day9 was playing this deck the other day and he got like a 8 winstreak. He literally just full muligan for the Infestor every game, the one game he didnt got it he lost
Booger worm aah title 😭🙏
(Yes The situation is really insane)
Im surpised priest didnt already calm down this Zerg DK, control priest got everything to suvive in that meta even armor (starships), he sucks on WindCond btw but i think it's just a question of time a priest will become a really good answer to this AND dungar druid
the infestor ain't the issue, it's the Viper
I can maybe see that angle. It’s a further kick in the teeth for control, as you pull their wincons.
I had a few games where I could’ve come back but ended up getting my Boom, Fizzle, Boomboss etc pulled.
(As you can probably tell, I’m a salty Hydration warrior enjoyer and I hate that this deck just murders control decks.
Also I don’t mind 1 or 2 vipers. But the fact they so consistently get additional copies of this just starts to tilt me.
I could see Viper going to “give your minions reborn, they all attack a random minion”
They will probably give Infestor the +1 mana nerf in some patch eventually. This deck is just way too fast in it's current form. Deafen is a strong counter, but only Priest/Rogue has access to it while every other class just gets steamrolled.
Its a high roll deck if you dont draw infestor in the early turns this deck gets demolished
Play the warlock deck on nohands feed, counter
I bet my savings on infestor going to 4 mana in a week
Just be like me and always draw your infestors at turn 10 😊
Its a super broken deck rn yes. But they still have to be very careful with how they nerf it. Because dk already loses yodeller and death growl at rotation. It could drop from being the best deck to being a hot garbage deck very easily if they overkill it.
I played against the most zerg DK hater deck in existence he was running conductivity with the 4 hex cards, little naga boy to get more and would just fill my board with junk 0/1's.
I agree that double frost is the best. I hit legend with it today, feels very strong and on another level than all the other decks that I tried. Weapon rogue counters it hard. And Priest has some counters against it with deafen but if you play smart against them they don't pose that much of a threat.
Infestor will probably go to 4 mana.
Overall you should have no problems climbing with it, it's a cool deck with cool mechanics.
This deck is the same as the caverns below. It needs to be ajusted ASAP
Take silance and u will win against him 😅