Diploma does not equal automatic job. A lot of work, persistence, & luck is needed as well. You might grind for 10 years before you get a great position- or maybe never...
The fact that higher education is viewed as a business as opposed to education is part of the problem. Universities aren't in it to educate the population anymore. They are in it to make money. I still think having a degree says a lot about someone. It shows a certain degree of determination. It shows that someone is self motivated and that they are able to commit to something. I know this because I have a bachelor's degree in math, and I know how hard it was to earn it even though I don't currently use it in my job. But the a lot of the reason people think it isn't worth it is the system. The institution of higher education itself is actually very beneficial to society IMO.
This only works for private colleges. Public colleges are almost completely government funded so the amount of merit based funding they have is very limited.
@joekev27 I have a few friends who got a full ride. So that’s a good deal. I went for less than 20k for my bachelors so I consider that a good deal. All depends.
@@P.90.603Not all college degrees are same. Some degrees help you with careers but other degrees are useless when it comes to careers. How would history majors lead to great jobs? To get a nursing license, you need to get a nurse degree.
@@thomaskim5008 it should lead to great education jobs. True, some degrees are entrepreneurial like history and literature etc. But nursing degrees....healthcare degrees are much more complicated. This is coming from someone with a masters getting bust down to caregiver for a day because they are short staffed. This doesn't happen for lawyers, judges, doctors, psychiatrists but this happens for people they think they can get away with because there are prejudices when it comes to certain careers that people don't think about. When I was a caregiver full time before I got my masters. I was doing it for 3 years while they preached, go to school and get your masters and you don't have to do this anymore. Fast forward 6 years and look at me, right back doing what I am doing. So there are prejudices and the fact is that people respect what they can't do. Which is a drag because not everyone can or should shoot to be a lawyer, psychiatrist etc but to get away from these crap jobs, that's what society is teaching. Go for it even if you are not suited for it. It's a dangerous precedent.
College is useless in this era..You have Asian, African and Indian coming from oversea that come from poverty taking most of the engineering,tech and medical field jobs..🤷♂️Most who graduated college before the pandemic was able to get a job.Job market right now is terrible
@ Not entirely true. Why do you think American tech companies are hiring foreigners instead of Americans. There are not enough Americans who can handle the jobs. We need colleges to train Americans for American jobs. We need colleges to train Americans for the medical field. If you are talking about the humanities and social sciences, we don’t need college unless students want to pay out of their pocket for colleges.
@@thomaskim5008foreigners are cheaper than Americans. Why do all companies have call centers in India or Pakistan? It's dirt cheap to operate there compared to the us.
I'm too old to become an electrical engineer so I'm glad I sat in on classes instead of taking them for real. STEM is over-advertised, especially now. The Wall Street Journal said some computer programming boot camps are closing up shop because the demand for grads has collapsed like the Tropicana casino.
Most people need not be in debt when they finish. Spend a couple of years at the local Community College and then transfer to your home state university system and you are likely to have little to no debt when you graduate. This will vary a bit from location to location but college is very affordable for most. You are right there is no guarantee of a job but that is true if you don't go to college too and picking the right major can help a lot with this. The bottom line is if you have no plan and don't have a clue what you want to do then you really should not be paying someone to find out by going to college. too many people are treating college as just the thing to do without any thought for what value they are really getting from it.
@Nunyabiznessboi This does vary from location to location but $13k a year is not very expensive for a year of college education. If you are getting a degree to get a job that pays $30k a year you should probably rethink getting the degree (this also depends on location though). There needs to be a real up front ROI calculation before even deciding to go to college, that is a large part of how some people are getting themselves into trouble. College is not a place to find yourself or figure out what you want to do. If that is your goal there are plenty of ways to do that without paying for tuition.
A well-educated adult, who really took advantage of this opportunity, is vital to society. College is Not meant to get you a job. If you want that and make $$$ right away, go to trade school.
Whatever happened to "non credit" seeking students? It's my understanding that virtually anyone can attend college & receive an education but there will be no degree. Sounds reasonable to me. Companies can simply test them in the job they're applying for.
Apply for scholarships to help pay for college Kristina Ellis wrote two books on how to pay for college and how to graduate debit free. I read her scholarship book and it’s wonderful. There are lots of books on how to help pay for college no one is talking about it.
Many of those scholarships are for high schoolers when I tried to look for the scholarships while in undergrad there weren’t any available I scoured the internet and asked my university and there weren’t any
Treat it as any investment, which may have high, low, or negative returns, depending on the quality of the both faculty and students’ human capital as well as the labor market conditions. There is definitely no simple yes/no answer across the board for everyone in every field and school.
Yes it is. But if you want to keep tuition down, go to a public school. For example, Cal State University and University of California are both awesome publicly-funded systems with reasonable tuition. Same with the public systems in Texas and New York.
Rich people start businesses, hire recent grads, donate money/fund endowment, give scholarships, and always pay tuition. A college with only rich kids will be successful (even if they aren't the brightest). The professors usually fail to understand rich people make a university great. Affirmative action is bad because it removes the natural relationship between rich alumni and university. Plus the actual coursework and debt provide little value unless it's professional/vocational.
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The honest answer is no, and the coming from a college professor. Colleges do absolutely nothing to get students jobs or gainful employment, which at the end of the day is what matters.
You can ask but please know that doesn't mean you are going to get it. I don't want you to be set up for disappointment. He is also correct that you can go to many schools but employers are biased towards the school you go to for their internships and new grad programs.
It depends on what YOU study for and it's purpose. You really think that a liberal arts theater major or gender studies is worth the financial burden? Pursue something that actually guarantees you a job.
Nope not worth it at all! Even with a six figure job that mostly hires from expensive schools the investment and the effort is just not worth it. You are better off saving tuition cost, working a lower paying job and invest in an index fund. I had no student loans but I was $40,000 less richer after college that only landed me a low paying job. If I invested that $40,000 in an index fund it would be worth more than my total net income for several years 😢
Its only worth it if you need specialized training or uou like learning. Getting a degree for the sake doesn't help. Like those feminist degrees or a degree in movoe making. Just do it for free
Depends on the store,the manager, your team lead,other team leads,your work life can drain your soul making your work life hell,making the deal not worth it
There has to be a way to mute this man dying off screen
came for this commment
bro ripping a cart off screen
Someone give poor guy some water😂
Diploma does not equal automatic job. A lot of work, persistence, & luck is needed as well. You might grind for 10 years before you get a great position- or maybe never...
The fact that higher education is viewed as a business as opposed to education is part of the problem. Universities aren't in it to educate the population anymore. They are in it to make money. I still think having a degree says a lot about someone. It shows a certain degree of determination. It shows that someone is self motivated and that they are able to commit to something. I know this because I have a bachelor's degree in math, and I know how hard it was to earn it even though I don't currently use it in my job. But the a lot of the reason people think it isn't worth it is the system. The institution of higher education itself is actually very beneficial to society IMO.
This only works for private colleges. Public colleges are almost completely government funded so the amount of merit based funding they have is very limited.
It’s worth it as long as you get a good deal. Some do some don’t. Be smart. Understand the risk vs reward
Lol show me the people getting a good deal. Unless your getting a full ride scholarship your always getting a bad deal.
@joekev27 I have a few friends who got a full ride. So that’s a good deal. I went for less than 20k for my bachelors so I consider that a good deal. All depends.
I'll make this easy for you, it isnt.
@@P.90.603Not all college degrees are same. Some degrees help you with careers but other degrees are useless when it comes to careers. How would history majors lead to great jobs? To get a nursing license, you need to get a nurse degree.
@@thomaskim5008 it should lead to great education jobs. True, some degrees are entrepreneurial like history and literature etc. But nursing degrees....healthcare degrees are much more complicated. This is coming from someone with a masters getting bust down to caregiver for a day because they are short staffed. This doesn't happen for lawyers, judges, doctors, psychiatrists but this happens for people they think they can get away with because there are prejudices when it comes to certain careers that people don't think about. When I was a caregiver full time before I got my masters. I was doing it for 3 years while they preached, go to school and get your masters and you don't have to do this anymore. Fast forward 6 years and look at me, right back doing what I am doing. So there are prejudices and the fact is that people respect what they can't do. Which is a drag because not everyone can or should shoot to be a lawyer, psychiatrist etc but to get away from these crap jobs, that's what society is teaching. Go for it even if you are not suited for it. It's a dangerous precedent.
College is useless in this era..You have Asian, African and Indian coming from oversea that come from poverty taking most of the engineering,tech and medical field jobs..🤷♂️Most who graduated college before the pandemic was able to get a job.Job market right now is terrible
@ Not entirely true. Why do you think American tech companies are hiring foreigners instead of Americans. There are not enough Americans who can handle the jobs. We need colleges to train Americans for American jobs. We need colleges to train Americans for the medical field. If you are talking about the humanities and social sciences, we don’t need college unless students want to pay out of their pocket for colleges.
@@thomaskim5008foreigners are cheaper than Americans. Why do all companies have call centers in India or Pakistan? It's dirt cheap to operate there compared to the us.
oh good, an out-of-touch old guy telling kids how to plan their future.
Unlike the young people taking out $100,000 in loans for a degree in gender studies.
@NunyabiznessboiLOLOL Keep telling yourself that. By the way, trump won because of people like you.
I'm too old to become an electrical engineer so I'm glad I sat in on classes instead of taking them for real. STEM is over-advertised, especially now. The Wall Street Journal said some computer programming boot camps are closing up shop because the demand for grads has collapsed like the Tropicana casino.
It's a racket. There's no guarantee that you will get a job & and you're in debt. Once you get the degree
Most people need not be in debt when they finish. Spend a couple of years at the local Community College and then transfer to your home state university system and you are likely to have little to no debt when you graduate. This will vary a bit from location to location but college is very affordable for most. You are right there is no guarantee of a job but that is true if you don't go to college too and picking the right major can help a lot with this. The bottom line is if you have no plan and don't have a clue what you want to do then you really should not be paying someone to find out by going to college. too many people are treating college as just the thing to do without any thought for what value they are really getting from it.
@Nunyabiznessboi This does vary from location to location but $13k a year is not very expensive for a year of college education. If you are getting a degree to get a job that pays $30k a year you should probably rethink getting the degree (this also depends on location though). There needs to be a real up front ROI calculation before even deciding to go to college, that is a large part of how some people are getting themselves into trouble. College is not a place to find yourself or figure out what you want to do. If that is your goal there are plenty of ways to do that without paying for tuition.
A well-educated adult, who really took advantage of this opportunity, is vital to society. College is Not meant to get you a job. If you want that and make $$$ right away, go to trade school.
How about you make it so people only have to take their major. Not more of the basics or irrelevant electives.
Whatever happened to "non credit" seeking students? It's my understanding that virtually anyone can attend college & receive an education but there will be no degree. Sounds reasonable to me. Companies can simply test them in the job they're applying for.
Apply for scholarships to help pay for college Kristina Ellis wrote two books on how to pay for college and how to graduate debit free. I read her scholarship book and it’s wonderful. There are lots of books on how to help pay for college no one is talking about it.
Many of those scholarships are for high schoolers when I tried to look for the scholarships while in undergrad there weren’t any available I scoured the internet and asked my university and there weren’t any
I would say it is worth it if you pay for two classes at a time until you can afford the time and effort and tuition of four classes per semester.
Treat it as any investment, which may have high, low, or negative returns, depending on the quality of the both faculty and students’ human capital as well as the labor market conditions. There is definitely no simple yes/no answer across the board for everyone in every field and school.
Yes it is. But if you want to keep tuition down, go to a public school. For example, Cal State University and University of California are both awesome publicly-funded systems with reasonable tuition. Same with the public systems in Texas and New York.
College is amazing! Now join our career fair with MLM companies 😃😃
@@P.90.603 everyone has to work bro you cant live off loans forever
@@P.90.603 You could start a business? Your time has passed. Move on, or be pushed.
Rich people start businesses, hire recent grads, donate money/fund endowment, give scholarships, and always pay tuition. A college with only rich kids will be successful (even if they aren't the brightest). The professors usually fail to understand rich people make a university great. Affirmative action is bad because it removes the natural relationship between rich alumni and university. Plus the actual coursework and debt provide little value unless it's professional/vocational.
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Hello
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Yeah. If you're a sucker and you think DEI won't come right back by another name, then pay for your college tuition. 🤣
Dont waste your money on college. Learn skills instead. Employers care less about degrees and more about current skills
We asked these questions, yet what is really going to change? What choice do we have before and after something falls?
No unless you are on a scholarship or if the government is paying for you.
You have to be dirt poor for the government to give you grant these days. Most assistance are loans.
Sounds like that interviewer is down to just four packs a day! Congrats, buddy! It’s a tough habit to quit lol
The honest answer is no, and the coming from a college professor. Colleges do absolutely nothing to get students jobs or gainful employment, which at the end of the day is what matters.
Hell yeah!!!!
For most people, no
You can ask but please know that doesn't mean you are going to get it. I don't want you to be set up for disappointment.
He is also correct that you can go to many schools but employers are biased towards the school you go to for their internships and new grad programs.
Why is the reporter keep coughing…it is so distracting!
The answer is no. I just saved you 10 minutes
Only if you get a degree that’s in demand or relatable to a career field, otherwise no
He lost me when he started whining about anti semitism.
The quick answer is no
Haha i got a good laugh in this morning thanks lol.
It depends on what YOU study for and it's purpose. You really think that a liberal arts theater major or gender studies is worth the financial burden? Pursue something that actually guarantees you a job.
Maybe if it's for finance...
Nope not worth it at all! Even with a six figure job that mostly hires from expensive schools the investment and the effort is just not worth it. You are better off saving tuition cost, working a lower paying job and invest in an index fund. I had no student loans but I was $40,000 less richer after college that only landed me a low paying job. If I invested that $40,000 in an index fund it would be worth more than my total net income for several years 😢
Its only worth it if you need specialized training or uou like learning.
Getting a degree for the sake doesn't help. Like those feminist degrees or a degree in movoe making. Just do it for free
NO!
absolutely nothing good to say regarding college
This is hilarious lmao this man is dying right on camera
Walmart pays for your college 😉 be smart!
Depends on the store,the manager, your team lead,other team leads,your work life can drain your soul making your work life hell,making the deal not worth it
Not worth it.
No!
not really.
No.
Worth the cost? I attended a tuition-free university and received my Bachelors in Computer Science. I make 6 figures.
No
It's easier to get in because enrollment rates are at an all time low
Its only worth the time spent with all expenses paid i.e rich kids.
trade school is the only way
no lol.
Major in Beyonce and expect someone else to pay for it
@@P.90.603Trump won, you lost. Accept it.
No
No.
No