Abigail is the type of girl that wants you to fight for her when she's literally unsure of everything..she loves the feeling of being wanted but she doesn't know it takes two to tango.
Can't blame the guy, he has been begging for her to tell him how she feels the entire time. What a great guy to put the blame all on him. She needed to open her mouth and tell him how she felt instead of telling the other girls. She has even admitted she self-sabotages. Well, there ya go.
"What a great guy to put the blame all on him." This. It does seem like that was deliberate in the end. I wondered why but then thought, well, when you've fired your last bolt and still got nothing to show, what is the point of rubbing salt in it? She knows. She can blame him if it makes it easier but she knows why he left. Plus, if she responds with "what do you need me to say? Do I have to reciprocate? OK I'm feeling the same way... now can we stay together?" That would be pretty cringey for both of them. If it doesn't come without pulling teeth then it's not there.
@@aahyes9068 exactly. "Victims" always blame others before blaming themselves. She totally messed this one up on her own. He deserves better. I understand that she may not have felt for him like he felt for her but it's a big red flag when someone says they're falling in love with you and then they hear crickets. People don't wait forever. Move on Noah. You deserve better!
But he is so emotionally unintelligent. I bet he doesn’t even know his Myers-Briggs. He needs to read one of my books on how to speak to women. I went to Harvard, you know. If anyone actually thinks this comment is serious you definitely didn’t see Tayshia’s season.
I think she to shy and know who he has the gust to tell him how she really feels and what ever she want to tell him I am thinking she holding it inside of her what ever it is she dont want to push him away or she dont know what she wants
I broke up with a guy for this SAME reason. He wouldn't communicate his feelings he would just stare and blink around just like Abigail. At a certain point, people get exhausted trying to play charade's on how you're feeling. Noah is not a mind reader! She expressed more to the side interviews than with Noah. I can't with Abigail's approach on this.
Disagree Noah has been 100% in for Abigail from day 1. She on the other hand has admitted to friendzoning a lot of guys and that seems to be a problem still here…
Ya I agree and also Noah when he came in the first day said that he came here for Abigail because he used to work with deaf kids lol what is that supposed to mean. Also from what I noticed no one ask Noah on a date I don't know why.
@@edithputhy4948 it was more so the opposite if you listened in with the things Abigail said like for example that she self sabotages relationships by friend zoning a lot of guys… Noah fought for her and even told her he loved her when she always gave him less and he probably broke up with her because he wanted more out of her and it was just too late for her to do anything at that prom
@@taralewis8460 I think by saying he came to paradise to meet Abigail because he used to work with deaf kids probably meant he knew how they operated and that he understood them I wouldn’t read too much into that…
Good for him. In my experience, most men are too much of a coward to leave a relationship where they do not feel fulfilled and these men either cheat or wait until the women decide to end the relationship.
A coward? You ascribe it to the negative thing, instead of, say, to a desire not to hurt the other, to try, hoping it will work out (having no crystal ball), a sense of duty, etc. possible reasons. Wow, it must be fun living with you, manhater!
@@YashKumar-c1x You are a walking red flag. Learn to respect people even if they don't romantically love you - yet - or you will always be alone. Real love is not conditional the way yours is. If you truly love someone - show them respect. Regardless of if they are as far along as you yet or not. I am fully on Noah's side here. But it also proves that he truly did love and care for her BY showing her respect regardless of where she's at. You have some real maturing to do.
Abigail needs to accept his genuine admission to her, feelings take time to figure out and he’s being upfront. It’s not always that easy. I think maturity tells you, you don’t want someone who doesn’t totally want you.
I can relate to him. I love my bf so much and sometimes I feel like he might actually not be the right person for me. It still sad for her, bcuz I know it’s not easy to hear what she was told 🙁
@@Jess-hf9me you can still love someone and walk away if you feel the love isn’t reciprocated. She gave him nothing to work with. She shut down, she winked at him. If someone reacted that way when I said I was falling for them I would probably do the same because it makes you feel like they don’t feel the same way you do. They both are guarded, but she is very guarded.
@@EllDuclos Your correct. I can definitely understand that. I think his choice of words is what throws me off. If he hadve said her not saying it back was making him second guess than okay but him saying he was forcing it after saying your falling in love is why I can understand her reaction/confusion.
@@Jess-hf9me I looked at that as he felt like he was trying to force something that wasn’t there because he was spilling his feelings and she wasn’t saying anything back so maybe that’s why he felt like he was trying to force something that wasn’t there. 🤷🏼♀️ but who knows. Either way, I think it’s best they didn’t work out anyway
@@miny4558 bc the whole time they were together Abigail was holding back. And she even said last night “the reason I didn’t say it back was bc I thought he said it by accident” I mean what kinda excuse is that????
Interesting. Noah is communicating what he wants (Abigail) and what's in the way (a block) and all Abigail hears is a rejection :/. Bravo to Noah for representing what mature men look like on national TV! I wish the best for both of them
Abigail is not ready for a serious relationship. She is very closed off and she was absolutely right when she said she self sabotages. She has some growing up to do before she will be able to be in a committed relationship and will have to learn some communication skills. Maybe if she watches the season back she will gain some insight into what went wrong. I believe Noah was wise to move on from this.
@@angelapolly1 She is lucky that he'd choose be with her again despite her red flag crickets when he was vulnerable telling her he's falling in love with her. I would have been out the door at that point too, there's only so much you can give of yourself getting nothing in return. But she must have learned from that then. I'm happy that she finally unstuck herself and that they are happy now.💖
IM GONNA SAY IT. NOAH DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER. Not saying I don’t love Abigail, but this guy just literally poured his heart out to you. His honest feelings. Props to him for not going through with an engagement just for TV and actually coming clean with how he feels about her.
@@gemarambhajan876 Abigail friend zoned Noah. He knew it half way through the season. Maybe he thought he could move beyond that but she was not interested in romance.
I have to lean towards Noah’s side on this because he spilled his feelings to her and she winked at him. Anyone would probably shut down and second guess the relationship after that? People just need to learn to communicate their feelings. I feel for Abigail though but to blame Noah for this is unfair.
He should have addressed it on the spot as soon as she didn't respond to him saying he's falling in love with her. She took advantage of the situation after the fact. So annoying.
I love Abigail but she is really cold and emotionless and closed off even after weeks of Noah being patient with her and working with her. I wouldn’t want to be with someone showing no interest in me either.
Even the bartender told Abigail she needed to step up her game and she brushed him off. Her most honest moment was on her first date when she told Noah that she friend zones men.
I feel like Noah does a lot of the talking and Abigail just doesn’t say very much about how she actually feels. But we don’t see all their conversations so who knows
Sometimes I get the impression her hearing is worse than she lets on; she may have years of practice and be really good at pretending and hedging her bets about what was said to her, then has to go talk to a producer to find out what her intimate conversations with her boyfriend were about.
Abigail does not love Noah or care about him one bit. She just tried to turn it around, even calling him a "liar." What a p.o.s. She never even responded when he told her he loved her. HE KNOWS SOMETHING WAS UP AND NOW SHE'S TRYING TO BLAME NOAH. NAH, WE AS BACHELOR NATION ALL SEE YOUR MANIPULATION AND YOU WILL NOT TREAT NOAH LIKE THIS! You never loved him. If you did, you would have told him. Instead you said nothing. can't believe I had to watch a stuck up girl like Abigail treat nice Noah this way. He had tears coming down his face at the prom and you had the audacity to call him a liar. You don't deserve Noah.
@@skrilllz I agree. Abigail's most open and honest moment on the show is when she said she friend Zones men on their first date. Noah never made it out of the friend zone.
She never does say how she feels about him to him. His person would. He has feelings for her, but he's not going to force it. Clearly it's not working. He did what he had to do.
Noah spoke for over two straight minutes about his feelings without a single word from Abigail. This was grueling for me to watch in real time. Having to see and hear his emotions was just painful. I feel like after EVERYTHING Noah said all she “heard” was REJECTION. Noah definitely deserves better🙏🏼🙌🏼💯
I think Noah misspoke when he said he doesn’t know if she’s his person and meant to say he doesn’t know he is her person. Everything has been so one sided and when he told her his feelings and she winked. That had to make him feel defeated and like it wasn’t worth trying to move forward with.
@@sunshinelucy105 , I also, did not, they seemed to really like each other, and that's ok, if they date after leaving Paradise, that will be the test....
This conversation could've been completely salvaged if Abigail would've let her guard down, dropped her ego and told him that she was falling in love with him but she was struggling with how to be open and vulnerable and share her feelings and that open communication is hard but she wants to fight for him and for them. If she would've taken a moment to really be honest with herself the way that she was honest in front of Wells, I think that they could've fought to make this work. However, a relationship isn't one-sided and Noah needed some reassurance.
She told the cameras that she was not in love with him yet. She needed to talk to him more. Noah never made it out of the friends zone. He sensed that half way through the season. He should have listened to his instincts and moved on then.
Noah was pouring his heart out, crying...and Abigail had this stone-cold face. She won't even look at Noah. I mean she didn't even show any emotion at all but then she thought she was blindsided?? Really?? Noah expressed his love for her all the time. She was the one who doesn't know what she wants.
she's a closed off person that doesn't like publicly expressing a vulnerable emotion like that, she literally excused herself to go to the restroom so she could sob there without anyone witnessing it
She's being kind of harsh. She has always been stand offish with him. I think if she would have opened up a little more with him and met him even part of the way, he might not be thinking that she " isn't his person". He was soooo patient with her. I think he was just waiting for some kind of validation and he got it when he said he was falling in love with her and she froze and didn't say anything. Than she acted like it didn't register because he said it so fast. I don't think so. Shes gotta let her walls down or she is going to have lots of trouble with future relationships.
Abigail-Stop blaming Noah. You never told him you loved him. You didn't even respond when he told you that he was falling in love with you. Because you gave him the cold shoulder when he said that, by you not saying ANYTHING, IT CONFIRMED WHAT NOAH HAD BEEN FEELING FROM YOU THE ENTIRE TIME- THAT YOU DON'T LOVE HIM BACK. DON'T YOU DARE BLAME NOAH ON THIS. You yourself said that you always pull back and friend zone guys, and you did exactly that with Noah. Don't even try and blame Noah and cry over it calling him a "liar.'' We see your true colors, and you NEVER LOVED NOAH. HE DID SO MUCH FOR YOU, AND HE WAS HONEST TO YOU, POURED HIS HEART OUT, AND YOU SAID NOTHING. You do not deserve him!
Let’s be honest Noah was hoping she would say she was falling in love with him as well & she could have said something instead she gets mad. She has a lot of growing up to do especially after she says I have nothing to be blamed for in this so childish
We don’t actually know all the conversations and intimate interactions they’ve had. He said himself that she said she always felt like he had one foot in and one foot out. Maybe she had doubts and held back because she was sensing that. But again, maybe he started to feel she wasn’t the one because he felt that his feelings weren’t reciprocated. Either way, they had so much potential as a couple but it seemed that they were just both poor communicators. I don’t blame either in this situation as they both were not ready for a lifelong commitment. I hope they’re together outside paradise and are going at their pace. I do wish them the best. Also, I have to say Noah really surprised me in a good way. He was portrayed very differently on the Bachelorette.
I didn't think he was portrayed differently on Bachelorette. Different situation but he still seemed to handle everything with a pretty mature, fun-loving & positive attitude, just making the best of things.
On Matt's season, she talked about always getting dumped so I figure she is worried it'll happen with Noah so isn't fully committing or expressing how she feels. Self fulfilling prophecy though as her lack of saying how she feels lead him to believe she wasn't as in it as he was so he essentially talked himself out of loving her to protect himself. By the time she indicated in an itm that she was falling in love and should tell him, it was too late as he'd already made up his mind. It's sad. Her past tanked her future.
I’m with Noah. I think he gave it more to the relationship than Abigail. Since day one he’s been all for her and about her. Maybe they weren’t fully into each other as others may think and that’s okay but saying he blindsided you it’s a bit much I think.
She is an idiot. He felt there was something off with her, in general. Fighting so much and for so long and not to get anything concrete in return, you get tired and start to question everything. She doesn't deserve him. He would always have to do everything for her and it would never be enough and she would never reciprocate.
I don’t think Noah blindsided Abigail, she didn’t give him anything, literally gave a blank stare when he said he was falling in love with her. Abigail wasn’t ready for a serious relationship and Noah realized this
Omg. Am I the only one that finds her annoying? He said told her that he was falling in love with her…and she didn’t say it back. Of course, he would feel unsure. She talks about how hurt she is but he is the only one that is crying. Honestly, this girl needs to go and love herself before she tries to find any sort of romantic love.
I feel bad that in her reality she feels like she is truly the victim and didn’t do anything wrong. It’s sad that she can’t consider Noah’s perspective in any of this. She puts all the blame on him instead of reflecting on herself and considering where she possibly went wrong in the relationship. How would she feel if she told him she was falling in love with him and he literally went silent and didn’t acknowledge her? She needs to get some counselling
This is my exact thoughts! It’s such a sad sad situation. He said “you are perfect in every way” I thought Abigail was the sweetest prettiest girl, even on Matt’s season. I was so happy to see her on Paradise too. I was happy that Noah came to BIP to see her. But She shows up like so is so ready for love but never gives it. I don’t think Ive ever been angry and annoyed by someone and triggered, I can’t believe I am so bothered by her and her emotional unavailability. I can’t tell if she is wounded, traumatized, struggles with low self esteem. Cause she does not show or talk about ANYTHING! That’s my rant. OMG
Some serious tendencies of Vulnerable Narcissism (tendencies). It was creepy to watch how cold she was whilst Noah was being so open and clearly hurt. She never took accountability or apologized for her actions and always found a way to be the victim.
Im sorry but Abigail is toxic - She admitted that she was in love with him but waited to tell him because it didn't "register" that he said that. Then she said she going to tell him during their dance.. meanwhile, he's crumbling because he thinks he did something wrong and this girl still won't give him that truth.. After the dance, he pulls her to the side and she still said nothing! Then she sees him doubting himself and his feelings, she attacks him! Whyyyy didn't she just say she loved him back?
Yes she definitely had time to express her feelings while he was being so vulnerable with her that night. Instead, she decided to blame him, she didn’t take accountability for any of her actions and sadly this seems a bit like some tendencies of Vulnerable Narcissism on her part. I truly wish Noah the best.
Noah literally said Abigail could tell weeks ago that he was half in half out and she was right. Like he literally confirmed he was half in and half out. And while being half in half out he says he's in love with her. Those are contradictory things so yes she gets to be confused and annoyed. Why are y'all trying to villainize her?
To be fair, Abigail never really seemed all that into him. He's not even the same jokey Noah from Tayshia's season. He seems like the life has been sucked out of him. I don't know if the producers just edited the hell out of their personalities or something, but they both are clearly lacking one.
I honestly feel bad for Noah in this. Abigail seems to have some deep rooted issues when it comes to relationships and Noah did come to paradise for her. She needs to accept herself into actually being loved by a guy who wants to make her feel that.
I mean, “I’m falling in love you” to “I don’t think you’re my person. I’ve been losing sleep over it for days (so before the confession)” is a pretty big shift. I do agree she’s also been holding back, but I’m not sure how people wanted her to process and react to that in the moment.
Perhaps "I can certainly see why you'd feel that way. And actually, I was shocked and in disbelief when you said you were falling in love with me the other night." I mean - honesty might have helped. Just tell him once what she tells Wells or anyone else on the beach. If she took a second to ask herself what if he means what he says, she'd have to have been expecting him to eventually reach his limit with the wall.
I understand Abigail must have felt blindsided but what did she expect from him? He tells her he loves her and sees a bright future with her yet she doesn’t say anything to him even though Wells encouraged her too and even during the prom she still waited to say something but didn’t. Did she expect Noah to wait for her to share her feelings whenever it felt necessary to her? The guy has been 100% in with her from day 1..hasn’t gone out with anyone else and in the moment he gets doubts about their relationship and how she hasn’t shared her feelings she decides to essentially blame him for her not opening up about her own actual feelings but also because he wanted to end it??… I love Abigail but I think it was fair for Noah to be honest about the way he’s been feeling and concerns about their relationship. Nobody wants to keep fighting for you if you don’t fight for them back. That’s called a one way relationship..
She didn’t listen to how he was expressing his feelings towards her! She only listen to the part “this isn’t my person. " 😒 come on Abigail, even Wells think you’re the one holding back. 🙄
I went to sleep 2 times on him trying to tell her to get lost and she was just sitting there I felt for him because just say it.... She's just looking at him like she's trying to get him to change his mind ... making him talk more.
Part of me is mad but the other part I get it Noah told her he was in love with her but she didn’t say anything so of course he would feel scared I’m sad now Abigail has been closed off from him so I understand why he’s like this Abigail girl open up tell him u love him 😭😭😭
It's possible... just playing devil's advocate here... that she wasn't really ever that into him and being insecure and unresponsive til it drives men away is a learned strategy for remaining happily single and everyone still likes her (how can you not at least want to be nice to her / feel sorry for her). I mean it could all be unconscious too but ultimately it's good entertainment and not everyone is in a rush to find their soul mate. You can't get on the show quite so easily if you don't at least make it look like you're trying -- or else you have an over-the-top personality like a Demi type & will screw anybody for a rose. Having a fatal vulnerability is kind of perfect for being a likeable fixture on this franchise. But I lean toward the "it's not entirely deliberate". I think she knows she's not ready to settle down but isn't comfortable admitting it to herself. Maybe even off camera. But I think she did like Noah.
Same but it’s like also Noah has been so open with her and she doesn’t give anything back to him so of course it leaves him doubt especially when the end is near :(
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld so if you told someone you're IN LOVE with them and silence is their response, you wouldn't have done the same thing? Big red flag in my book. Even if she wasn't on the same level as him yet, she could have said that and be like "listen, I can see myself falling for you in the near future but I'm not just there yet, please bare with me and I'll promise you it'll be worth it". Noah deserves better.
@@handmadeetcllc9126 LoL I feel like Noah was panicking and the fact he didn't know what to do with his feelings was strange. Haven't seen that before. Pfft
Abigail avoided eye contact throughout the majority of this conversation. It was almost as though she knew where the tone of this conversation was going. It's sad they couldn't salvage their relationship. Noah and Abigail were my favorite couple on Paradise this season.
She didn't lie during their first date... She doesn't cry!!😂 Abigail is colllllld. Noah handled it the best he could. I don't think Abigail understood what Noah was saying. Its possible to love someone but choose to end it..
But I really don’t think Noah is to fully blame here….. Abigail gave him nothing to work with. She closed herself off and had the biggest guard up. Communication is key.
@@EllDuclos yeah i agree its a two way street for sure and communication is key which is something Abigail has admitted herself is lacking but if she gave him nothing to work with then why did he say he was falling in love with her? He put himself in that situation and not abigail. Dont get me wrong i think its good of Noah to be upfront but his lack of awareness of his feelings just hurt the both of them really.
@@ellegonzi they both lacked awareness of their emotions let’s be real. But honestly I think he was just making excuses for his feelings of rejection. I think he felt rejected and got scared and then tried to do all he could to not admit that he was hurt by the rejection. At the end of the day they lacked communication and when Noah finally started communicating, she wasn’t there yet. At the end of the day probably best it didn’t work out.
@@ellegonzi I don't know anyone who would be able to remain strong and maintain the conviction of being in love with someone when given absolutely NOTHING in response. He handled this a million times better than Greg (in not having Katie say he "loves her" despite her showing him every single time she gave him extra time) and that right there shows how amazing Noah is. When you have a night to mull over an exchange, I am sure that also starts to shift your perspective and I think Noah just got to a point where he felt like he was hitting a complete wall with Abigail.
@Massimiliano Giacometti I’m actually team Noah, never said I wasn’t. And there is nothing wrong with needing attention from your partner, in which Abigail does not give to him…
@Massimiliano Giacometti But she is falling in love with him? She just needed some time to register his confession and recognize her own feelings, and that’s okay. Just like it’s okay for him to end things if he’s not feeling validated or loved in the way he wants.
@@Katrina-zs3qg "Constant" ? lol what? Just because Noah wanted ONE reassurance that she feels the same and wanted Some attention/affection above the Nothing that she gives, then that doesn't mean he was ever asking for "constant" affection lmao😂 Wanting "something" above NOTHING does not equal "everything." 😂Try again.
I don't know how people are on his side with this. She's correct. How do you go from saying your falling in love the night before to this conversation?! He's probably just mad she didn't say it back. Can't stand flip floppers. She will find a super amazing man.
I mean if you put your heart out there and told someone you were falling in love and they winked at you and said nothing, you start to second guess yourself… because clearly you are being shown you are into the person way more than they are into you. She just needed to communicate her feelings more. It’s not fair to paint Noah out to be the only one at fault here… it’s okay it didn’t work.
Abigail needs to be more vocal about her feelings. i feel like she holds back a lot, waiting too long to tell him she falling in love until it's too late. that's what she struggles with. maybe she's afraid. i see their good on social media & have been seen together at events but don't know if they're back together. they just need to communicate better.
I feel for both of them but you said it yourself, she didn’t say anything back. How is he supposed to be in a relationship where the other person can’t open up
Likewise, if she didn't react to some random friend telling her he was falling in love with her, why would she react to him telling her she's not "his person"? I mean if it didn't mean anything and she assumed he "said it by accident" as she actually claimed, then hey, no biggie, it's all good, right?
Seems like he is running away bc he is afraid she will reject him. He tried to get her to open up but she didn’t so I think he assumed she wasn’t feeling the same. Even here it seems he wants more and yet she is not saying anything. Too bad
This situation is something someone knows at least once where you thought there was some form of a bond but it wasn't really there so to speak. There's no easy on either sides but I commend the man for speaking up.
I honestly think he took a u-turn because Abigail didn't tell him she was falling for him too. I think they are both holding back. Makes me sad cus I thought they were both such a good fit.
I can see why Abigail is confused because just the day before Noah said he was falling in love with her BUT she never really seemed sure about her exact feelings towards him. She never said anything back and by the end it just seemed pretty forced. Noah did the right thing by breaking it off because honestly as much as everyone hyped up their relationship - it was always surface level and never really got very deep...anyways at the end of the day we don't know what else happened behind the scenes. Wish them both happiness and the love they deserve!
It seems weird that he would just try to end things after only one day of saying L word, seems like his ego was bruised. No patience. She was obviously trying to resolve through her feelings, and she eventually got there. She seemed to genuinely want to work through that and eventually got there. I think he pulled the plug way too fast. His intentions with her don’t seem genuine. Feels like bs, I’m with Abigail.
Man I was surprised to see everyone agreeing with Noah, what he did was unnecessary. He went from telling her that he was falling in love with her, but then 24 hours said he’s been having doubts for longer than that. It makes no sense, if he knew that they weren’t right for each other he should not have strung her along and he should’ve ended it then.
People need time to ascertain things and see how they really feel. Don't turn into Abigail! He doesn't owe her anything. It's her responsibility to take care of herself, not his. He should take care of himself. GTFO with that altruistic b.s.
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 SERIOUSLY? THIS IS A REALITY SHOW IT’S NOT EVEN THAT DEEP. My point just is if he knew deep down he had that feeling… he was leading her on to believe that everything was ok when he told her he loved her. When in reality he had been feeling like it wasn’t working out for a few days. You don’t from telling someone you are falling in love with them and then 24 hours later say you’ve been having doubts about the relationship. Like what kind of mind games is that. I am totally on Abigail’s side no doubt
I don't blame her at all. He should have been more upfront with this gut feeling of his. It's natural to be blindsided. The hard part though is that it's also very common. A lot of people hide how they really feel to not upset the other person. But it usually ends up backfiring on them.
It's only a blindside if they haven't been discussing this problem to death with each other, with Wells, with their friends and with the camera operators for weeks. I'm not sure he did her a service in the end by pretending it wasn't all about her lack of emotional expression but she has been told before and really does seem to prefer to believe that nobody genuinely has feelings for her. I think Noah maybe confused falling in love with falling into a compulsion to rescue a helplessly wounded puppy but apparently he held out hope that she'd come out of her shell before the show wrapped. Pathos can be a strong bond but it doesn't bring happiness.
BRO I literally felt for Abigail here and although I do feel she shoulda spoke up I think it was more messed up for Noah to backtrack and say she’s not his person literally 1 day after. Feelings do not change that quick, that being said I did see something online saying that the producers set this up and I believe it and yesterday they were spotted together in his hometown in Oklahoma so they’re still together
I think she’s more upset he was saying one thing but saying another now like she said he said he would say anything he didn’t mean but proceeded to do so , that makes her feel she can’t trust what he says.. I like Noah but he can’t just say things without meaning and expect that from her she wanted to do it on her terms not his. And he didn’t even mean it as u can see he’s been feeling unsure for awhile.
How many weeks have they been together? People need to pursue who they really want and that needs patience. Abigail probably needs time to figure out and develop more feelings towards him, women also go through the same with the men that they like. They cannot have it as quickly as they want, noah is obviously impatient and feeling the pressure because couples around them are developing fast and he is not getting what he wanted at the time they are given. But that is the sense of love, it should not be forced. And if he really has strong feelings for her, she should wait for it. How many days had it just been? Wowww! Can’t he just wait? Abigail is worth it, and i admire her for not being like the other girls who mostly jump in every chance they get on and off the cam with their partners. She is obviously hurt too. And she doesn’t look like she just wanted a relationship for a show. In the bachelor and here.
Noah loves her but she didn’t respond positively like saying the same think back to him which made him think that maybe he was pushing her to feel the same as he did which put a question mark in his mind and he started questioning himself .Men don’t know that female marinate THIER feelings before they proclaim how they feel,men make a decision and go for it in a very quick way. And this happens with Noah and Abby.
Not the same,. Kathy was giving Greg a lot of validation throughout the season, even though she was the Bachelorette! Greg was just too insecure and that ended up destroying the whole thing.
I think Abigail is just over it at this point. He has all these expectations of her instead of letting things flow naturally. That's his problem not hers. You can't force someone to be a certain way just because you like them and they like you. If u wanna go all in on the first few dates that doesn't mean your love interest will do the same.
I feel bad for both of them. I think both of them could have done better in terms of communication. Neither of them are wrong but neither are right either
I think his fears came to light once she shut down and winked at him after he opened up. I don’t blame him. She just needs to heal so she can let her guard down and communicate her feelings. It’s okay it didn’t work but it’s not just his fault. 🤷🏼♀️
@Massimiliano Giacometti It’s neither of their faults for having different coping skills and communication styles. Abigail has been upfront about how it’s easier for her to move at a slower pace, and she’s not obligated to reciprocate a falling in love in the moment- she’s allowed to process it. And Noah is allowed to feel cold feet & that he’s not getting things he needs to feel secure in a relationship outside of this. It’s just an unfortunate miscommunication, and they need to learn how to understand and verbalize their feelings. Instead of letting it simmer- Noah literally agreed w the one foot it in, one foot out comment.
One can be decisive only about one's own desires. Can't decide how she's gonna respond so can't really decide she's the one for him by himself. She helped him figure it out.
@Massimiliano Giacometti he was irresponsible, careless or dishonest with his words, and actions speak louder than words & he broke up with her after telling her the night before that he's falling in love with her
Abigail is so closed off. Why would he want to continue this?! Sure fun dates and kisses are nice, but when someone wants more from the person they are falling in love with, that’s nothing.
She said the worst things a guy could hear from a girl. It's really sad for Noah. But I think she likes him but is not in love with him or she doesn't like him and is here for a free vacation and publicity. I think her ego is bruised coz he dumped her. Dang girl. Even I fell in love with Noah. Why did she stick out for so long if she didn't feel any love for him. I think she gaslighted him at the end.
The thing with Abigail is that she hasn't opened up with Noah. Like you can't just smile the whole date and not say a word and expect people to be okay with it. Noah literally poured his heart out when he said I love you and you heard crickets. If I was Noah I would retreat as well. Her crying in the bathroom is the most emotion we've seen out of her this whole season. Then she tries to blame him. Naaaahhh Noah was wise for this. I also feel they're not a good match, just good friends. She told him that in the beginning too.
I’m team Noah here. Abigail shows no emotion ever. I used to like her but now I think she’s just emotionally stunted. Noah did all he could and was trying to be honest and kind. She then turned into a mean girl. Unfollowing her now. Go get some therapy, girl. Please. Stop being mean to others who actually can show their emotions
Dang… “ she’s perfect but she’s not MY person” and the men know exactly how to blindside women.. Ugh has been said so many times to me and it breaks my heart ♥️ Edit : then they go and get in a super serious relationship with someone else. Even though you “ werent” their person, still kinda hurts :/ like Abigail said in matts season “ I'm constantly like, that person that makes men realize what they want next, but they never want that with me ... it's a hard pill that I'm gonna have to swallow."
I guess the crux of it is that perfect doesn't mean the same as "complete" or even "enough" unfortunately. For what she was, Abigail seemed pretty adorable. But long-term girlfriend or even wife material? Get ready for permanent agony. It's like expecting the perfect piece of chocolate the be your breakfast, lunch and dinner. Doesn't matter how perfect it is. Something's missing. Not to imply anything about you though. Those guys may just have been shmucks who didn't know a good thing when they saw one. :)
Noah deserves so much better. Not saying she's a bad person but he just needs someone to love him back. She said "I'm gunna tell him tonight that I love him". Doesn't work that way sweetie. Men nor woman wait forever. Once they get to that point, they walk away. And for her to play the victim? Not cool. He went into panic mode and he's running away from something? When someone tells you they love you, you either say it back or give them an explanation why you don't say it back. Put your big girl panties on.. He has been open and honest from day 1. Sorry Abigail, I agree with Noah on this one.
Abigail is sooo cold what is wrong with this woman can't she talk she says my entire life in paradise is Noah and held her feelings 🙄 express say something ? why did she even come to psradise wasted his time 😬 any woman would love to have Noah good looking decent and honest
Noah solely came to paradise for Abigail. I am glad that he was open about his feelings and not going through an engagement just for tv.
Well next week we'll see 👀
Abigail is the type of girl that wants you to fight for her when she's literally unsure of everything..she loves the feeling of being wanted but she doesn't know it takes two to tango.
She friendzones a lot of guys she admitted to this…
Truthh
Thats totally truth. Nobody said it better than you.
Thank you
This comment👌🏾
Can't blame the guy, he has been begging for her to tell him how she feels the entire time. What a great guy to put the blame all on him. She needed to open her mouth and tell him how she felt instead of telling the other girls. She has even admitted she self-sabotages. Well, there ya go.
"What a great guy to put the blame all on him."
This. It does seem like that was deliberate in the end. I wondered why but then thought, well, when you've fired your last bolt and still got nothing to show, what is the point of rubbing salt in it? She knows. She can blame him if it makes it easier but she knows why he left.
Plus, if she responds with "what do you need me to say? Do I have to reciprocate? OK I'm feeling the same way... now can we stay together?"
That would be pretty cringey for both of them. If it doesn't come without pulling teeth then it's not there.
Totally agree w you.
@@aahyes9068 exactly. "Victims" always blame others before blaming themselves. She totally messed this one up on her own. He deserves better. I understand that she may not have felt for him like he felt for her but it's a big red flag when someone says they're falling in love with you and then they hear crickets. People don't wait forever. Move on Noah. You deserve better!
But he is so emotionally unintelligent. I bet he doesn’t even know his Myers-Briggs. He needs to read one of my books on how to speak to women. I went to Harvard, you know.
If anyone actually thinks this comment is serious you definitely didn’t see Tayshia’s season.
I think she to shy and know who he has the gust to tell him how she really feels and what ever she want to tell him I am thinking she holding it inside of her what ever it is she dont want to push him away or she dont know what she wants
I broke up with a guy for this SAME reason. He wouldn't communicate his feelings he would just stare and blink around just like Abigail. At a certain point, people get exhausted trying to play charade's on how you're feeling. Noah is not a mind reader! She expressed more to the side interviews than with Noah. I can't with Abigail's approach on this.
There’s always been something off between them. I never got the sense that either of them 100% saw the other as their person.
Disagree Noah has been 100% in for Abigail from day 1. She on the other hand has admitted to friendzoning a lot of guys and that seems to be a problem still here…
Ya I agree and also Noah when he came in the first day said that he came here for Abigail because he used to work with deaf kids lol what is that supposed to mean. Also from what I noticed no one ask Noah on a date I don't know why.
@@thatgirl9532 he literally said himself he had doubts from day one and hoped they'd go away eventually
@@edithputhy4948 it was more so the opposite if you listened in with the things Abigail said like for example that she self sabotages relationships by friend zoning a lot of guys… Noah fought for her and even told her he loved her when she always gave him less and he probably broke up with her because he wanted more out of her and it was just too late for her to do anything at that prom
@@taralewis8460 I think by saying he came to paradise to meet Abigail because he used to work with deaf kids probably meant he knew how they operated and that he understood them I wouldn’t read too much into that…
Good for him. In my experience, most men are too much of a coward to leave a relationship where they do not feel fulfilled and these men either cheat or wait until the women decide to end the relationship.
Well said! I was very impressed watching Noah handle this situation. He has great integrity and treated Abigail with respect.
A coward? You ascribe it to the negative thing, instead of, say, to a desire not to hurt the other, to try, hoping it will work out (having no crystal ball), a sense of duty, etc. possible reasons.
Wow, it must be fun living with you, manhater!
@biancamichelle11 well she doesn't deserve respect because she said on camera she doesn't love him.
@@YashKumar-c1x You are a walking red flag. Learn to respect people even if they don't romantically love you - yet - or you will always be alone. Real love is not conditional the way yours is. If you truly love someone - show them respect. Regardless of if they are as far along as you yet or not.
I am fully on Noah's side here. But it also proves that he truly did love and care for her BY showing her respect regardless of where she's at.
You have some real maturing to do.
Abigail needs to accept his genuine admission to her, feelings take time to figure out and he’s being upfront. It’s not always that easy. I think maturity tells you, you don’t want someone who doesn’t totally want you.
I can relate to him. I love my bf so much and sometimes I feel like he might actually not be the right person for me.
It still sad for her, bcuz I know it’s not easy to hear what she was told 🙁
But the very night before he said he was falling in love?! It doesn't make sense.
@@Jess-hf9me you can still love someone and walk away if you feel the love isn’t reciprocated. She gave him nothing to work with. She shut down, she winked at him. If someone reacted that way when I said I was falling for them I would probably do the same because it makes you feel like they don’t feel the same way you do. They both are guarded, but she is very guarded.
@@EllDuclos Your correct. I can definitely understand that. I think his choice of words is what throws me off. If he hadve said her not saying it back was making him second guess than okay but him saying he was forcing it after saying your falling in love is why I can understand her reaction/confusion.
@@Jess-hf9me I looked at that as he felt like he was trying to force something that wasn’t there because he was spilling his feelings and she wasn’t saying anything back so maybe that’s why he felt like he was trying to force something that wasn’t there. 🤷🏼♀️ but who knows. Either way, I think it’s best they didn’t work out anyway
I think I’m with Noah on this one. Tbh I feel like Abigail has been holding back since day one and Noah has been up front and honest about everything.
Right and her excuse for the reason why she didn’t say she loved him back was bs “I thought he said he was falling for me by accident” lmao what?
Absoluty she prentent like he need to run behind her
Telling someone you love them the day before and then breaking up with the next day is not being honest at all. I am confused by your comment
@@miny4558 bc the whole time they were together Abigail was holding back. And she even said last night “the reason I didn’t say it back was bc I thought he said it by accident” I mean what kinda excuse is that????
Yes she is responsible for this break up she didn’t give him anything .
Interesting. Noah is communicating what he wants (Abigail) and what's in the way (a block) and all Abigail hears is a rejection :/. Bravo to Noah for representing what mature men look like on national TV! I wish the best for both of them
Abigail is not ready for a serious relationship. She is very closed off and she was absolutely right when she said she self sabotages. She has some growing up to do before she will be able to be in a committed relationship and will have to learn some communication skills. Maybe if she watches the season back she will gain some insight into what went wrong. I believe Noah was wise to move on from this.
Yes!! This!!
well said !
They are probably in a relationship now but i bet it is kindof hell for noah. probably wouldn't admit it tho
they stayed together after the show and now they’re married. so… i guess you were wrong 🙂
@@angelapolly1 She is lucky that he'd choose be with her again despite her red flag crickets when he was vulnerable telling her he's falling in love with her. I would have been out the door at that point too, there's only so much you can give of yourself getting nothing in return. But she must have learned from that then. I'm happy that she finally unstuck herself and that they are happy now.💖
Love Noah. Such mature way to break up with someone. He articulates his feelings so well. Both him and Abigail deserve pure love.
they’re married now
IM GONNA SAY IT. NOAH DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER. Not saying I don’t love Abigail, but this guy just literally poured his heart out to you. His honest feelings. Props to him for not going through with an engagement just for TV and actually coming clean with how he feels about her.
I'm going to say it. You deserve so much better. You are beautiful, and I believe you are my person
@@GandalftheWise LMAOOO im dead
Abigail never said to his face how she felt about him although he pours his ❤ out to get
Seriously. She's nuts.
@@gemarambhajan876 Abigail friend zoned Noah. He knew it half way through the season. Maybe he thought he could move beyond that but she was not interested in romance.
I have to lean towards Noah’s side on this because he spilled his feelings to her and she winked at him. Anyone would probably shut down and second guess the relationship after that? People just need to learn to communicate their feelings. I feel for Abigail though but to blame Noah for this is unfair.
He should have addressed it on the spot as soon as she didn't respond to him saying he's falling in love with her. She took advantage of the situation after the fact. So annoying.
I love Abigail but she is really cold and emotionless and closed off even after weeks of Noah being patient with her and working with her. I wouldn’t want to be with someone showing no interest in me either.
Even the bartender told Abigail she needed to step up her game and she brushed him off.
Her most honest moment was on her first date when she told Noah that she friend zones men.
I feel like Noah does a lot of the talking and Abigail just doesn’t say very much about how she actually feels. But we don’t see all their conversations so who knows
Sometimes I get the impression her hearing is worse than she lets on; she may have years of practice and be really good at pretending and hedging her bets about what was said to her, then has to go talk to a producer to find out what her intimate conversations with her boyfriend were about.
Abigail does not love Noah or care about him one bit. She just tried to turn it around, even calling him a "liar." What a p.o.s. She never even responded when he told her he loved her. HE KNOWS SOMETHING WAS UP AND NOW SHE'S TRYING TO BLAME NOAH. NAH, WE AS BACHELOR NATION ALL SEE YOUR MANIPULATION AND YOU WILL NOT TREAT NOAH LIKE THIS! You never loved him. If you did, you would have told him. Instead you said nothing. can't believe I had to watch a stuck up girl like Abigail treat nice Noah this way. He had tears coming down his face at the prom and you had the audacity to call him a liar. You don't deserve Noah.
@@skrilllz I agree.
Abigail's most open and honest moment on the show is when she said she friend Zones men on their first date. Noah never made it out of the friend zone.
She never does say how she feels about him to him. His person would. He has feelings for her, but he's not going to force it. Clearly it's not working. He did what he had to do.
I don’t think she’s ready for any kind of serious relationship tbh… she is always so closed off and acts like an innocent girl
Noah spoke for over two straight minutes about his feelings without a single word from Abigail. This was grueling for me to watch in real time. Having to see and hear his emotions was just painful. I feel like after EVERYTHING Noah said all she “heard” was REJECTION. Noah definitely deserves better🙏🏼🙌🏼💯
Abigail was not showing any interest in Noah so he did the right thing
I agree…she was pissing me off ….
I think Noah misspoke when he said he doesn’t know if she’s his person and meant to say he doesn’t know he is her person. Everything has been so one sided and when he told her his feelings and she winked. That had to make him feel defeated and like it wasn’t worth trying to move forward with.
It's kinda the same thing because if someone doesn't feel the same as you they are not your person.
I didn’t really sense a strong connection between them. Unfortunate
I agree 💯
@@sunshinelucy105 , I also, did not, they seemed to really like each other, and that's ok, if they date after leaving Paradise, that will be the test....
He felt something was off since their first date. She said she doesn’t make anyone her boyfriend until after months and he was like, “wait what?”
This conversation could've been completely salvaged if Abigail would've let her guard down, dropped her ego and told him that she was falling in love with him but she was struggling with how to be open and vulnerable and share her feelings and that open communication is hard but she wants to fight for him and for them. If she would've taken a moment to really be honest with herself the way that she was honest in front of Wells, I think that they could've fought to make this work. However, a relationship isn't one-sided and Noah needed some reassurance.
She told the cameras that she was not in love with him yet. She needed to talk to him more. Noah never made it out of the friends zone. He sensed that half way through the season. He should have listened to his instincts and moved on then.
Noah was pouring his heart out, crying...and Abigail had this stone-cold face. She won't even look at Noah. I mean she didn't even show any emotion at all but then she thought she was blindsided?? Really?? Noah expressed his love for her all the time. She was the one who doesn't know what she wants.
She did cry afterwards and was tear eyed here, they are at completely different levels in their comfort of showing their emotions
@@lunaxz36 exactly… not everyone is going to break down. Some people are fighting a mental battle for a long time before it shows physically.
He was crying while breaking up with her lol If he is crying while confessing that he love her is totally different.
she's a closed off person that doesn't like publicly expressing a vulnerable emotion like that, she literally excused herself to go to the restroom so she could sob there without anyone witnessing it
She's being kind of harsh. She has always been stand offish with him. I think if she would have opened up a little more with him and met him even part of the way, he might not be thinking that she " isn't his person". He was soooo patient with her. I think he was just waiting for some kind of validation and he got it when he said he was falling in love with her and she froze and didn't say anything. Than she acted like it didn't register because he said it so fast. I don't think so. Shes gotta let her walls down or she is going to have lots of trouble with future relationships.
Abigail-Stop blaming Noah. You never told him you loved him. You didn't even respond when he told you that he was falling in love with you. Because you gave him the cold shoulder when he said that, by you not saying ANYTHING, IT CONFIRMED WHAT NOAH HAD BEEN FEELING FROM YOU THE ENTIRE TIME- THAT YOU DON'T LOVE HIM BACK. DON'T YOU DARE BLAME NOAH ON THIS. You yourself said that you always pull back and friend zone guys, and you did exactly that with Noah. Don't even try and blame Noah and cry over it calling him a "liar.'' We see your true colors, and you NEVER LOVED NOAH. HE DID SO MUCH FOR YOU, AND HE WAS HONEST TO YOU, POURED HIS HEART OUT, AND YOU SAID NOTHING. You do not deserve him!
Good on Noah for not settling for less than what he wants in a relationship. I never understood the hype around Abigail.
Me too
You don’t need to drag Abigail???
@@keilaniii A drag involves having no mercy. I gave my opinion like everyone else in this comment section.
Noah seems like a mature and genuinely nice guy. I wish him well.
Let’s be honest Noah was hoping she would say she was falling in love with him as well & she could have said something instead she gets mad. She has a lot of growing up to do especially after she says I have nothing to be blamed for in this so childish
Abigail has zero emotional intelligence lol
It's a really sad situation. I think Noah does love her, but for some reason she can't say it back. Of course he's doubting the whole relationship.
We don’t actually know all the conversations and intimate interactions they’ve had. He said himself that she said she always felt like he had one foot in and one foot out. Maybe she had doubts and held back because she was sensing that. But again, maybe he started to feel she wasn’t the one because he felt that his feelings weren’t reciprocated. Either way, they had so much potential as a couple but it seemed that they were just both poor communicators. I don’t blame either in this situation as they both were not ready for a lifelong commitment. I hope they’re together outside paradise and are going at their pace. I do wish them the best. Also, I have to say Noah really surprised me in a good way. He was portrayed very differently on the Bachelorette.
I didn't think he was portrayed differently on Bachelorette. Different situation but he still seemed to handle everything with a pretty mature, fun-loving & positive attitude, just making the best of things.
On Matt's season, she talked about always getting dumped so I figure she is worried it'll happen with Noah so isn't fully committing or expressing how she feels. Self fulfilling prophecy though as her lack of saying how she feels lead him to believe she wasn't as in it as he was so he essentially talked himself out of loving her to protect himself. By the time she indicated in an itm that she was falling in love and should tell him, it was too late as he'd already made up his mind. It's sad. Her past tanked her future.
I’m with Noah. I think he gave it more to the relationship than Abigail. Since day one he’s been all for her and about her. Maybe they weren’t fully into each other as others may think and that’s okay but saying he blindsided you it’s a bit much I think.
She is an idiot. He felt there was something off with her, in general. Fighting so much and for so long and not to get anything concrete in return, you get tired and start to question everything. She doesn't deserve him. He would always have to do everything for her and it would never be enough and she would never reciprocate.
I feel like she’s way overrated. People paint her to be this angel but she was emotionally immature this whole season.
@@bears445 My wife said the same thing after just a few episodes.
I don’t think Noah blindsided Abigail, she didn’t give him anything, literally gave a blank stare when he said he was falling in love with her. Abigail wasn’t ready for a serious relationship and Noah realized this
I see no chemistry between this pair but theyre both deserving of finding love with someone else
Omg same.. tbh I never really saw it ( from the footage aired).
You know she wasnt commnicate to you and you still sat there under her arms you should have move on
@@nataliepaad1869 They are married now. So you guys just weren't able to see what was truly there.
@@lurlinesamuels4714 They are married now.
Idk why she’s mad at him it makes sense more to me that she held her feelings back which is what ruined the relationship
Omg. Am I the only one that finds her annoying? He said told her that he was falling in love with her…and she didn’t say it back. Of course, he would feel unsure. She talks about how hurt she is but he is the only one that is crying. Honestly, this girl needs to go and love herself before she tries to find any sort of romantic love.
I AM SO ANNOYED WITH HER!!! She is giving me super toxic vibes. I’m so triggered by her.
She is annoying!!!
I feel bad that in her reality she feels like she is truly the victim and didn’t do anything wrong. It’s sad that she can’t consider Noah’s perspective in any of this. She puts all the blame on him instead of reflecting on herself and considering where she possibly went wrong in the relationship. How would she feel if she told him she was falling in love with him and he literally went silent and didn’t acknowledge her? She needs to get some counselling
This is my exact thoughts! It’s such a sad sad situation. He said “you are perfect in every way” I thought Abigail was the sweetest prettiest girl, even on Matt’s season. I was so happy to see her on Paradise too. I was happy that Noah came to BIP to see her. But She shows up like so is so ready for love but never gives it. I don’t think Ive ever been angry and annoyed by someone and triggered, I can’t believe I am so bothered by her and her emotional unavailability. I can’t tell if she is wounded, traumatized, struggles with low self esteem. Cause she does not show or talk about ANYTHING! That’s my rant. OMG
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Some serious tendencies of Vulnerable Narcissism (tendencies). It was creepy to watch how cold she was whilst Noah was being so open and clearly hurt. She never took accountability or apologized for her actions and always found a way to be the victim.
Noah is a gentleman
Emotionally intelligent king
Yesss thank you for acknowledging that!! Noah is amazing
Noah for Bachelor. 🌹 Class act. Good man.
That could actually be fun.
YES!!!!!!! Noah for the bachelor!!!!
He's not enough of the Hulk type for them for such a position. 😄
Too soft looking, and too sensitive.
Not sure he blindsided her as it felt from the beginning she didn't give enough.
I can’t believe she even used the term blindsided to describe her experience… when she legit doesn’t express herself
Im sorry but Abigail is toxic - She admitted that she was in love with him but waited to tell him because it didn't "register" that he said that. Then she said she going to tell him during their dance.. meanwhile, he's crumbling because he thinks he did something wrong and this girl still won't give him that truth.. After the dance, he pulls her to the side and she still said nothing! Then she sees him doubting himself and his feelings, she attacks him! Whyyyy didn't she just say she loved him back?
I felt so bad for Noah 😢
Yessss!!!
Yes she definitely had time to express her feelings while he was being so vulnerable with her that night. Instead, she decided to blame him, she didn’t take accountability for any of her actions and sadly this seems a bit like some tendencies of Vulnerable Narcissism on her part. I truly wish Noah the best.
She never seemed that interested to be honest, seemed like he was always trying to force stuff out of her
I have to ask, what do you do when two people in a relationship have different love languages? I'm genuinely asking this.
Noah literally said Abigail could tell weeks ago that he was half in half out and she was right. Like he literally confirmed he was half in and half out. And while being half in half out he says he's in love with her. Those are contradictory things so yes she gets to be confused and annoyed. Why are y'all trying to villainize her?
He said he feels SHE was half in, half out
let’s be honest, Noah has grown soooo much
To be fair, Abigail never really seemed all that into him. He's not even the same jokey Noah from Tayshia's season. He seems like the life has been sucked out of him. I don't know if the producers just edited the hell out of their personalities or something, but they both are clearly lacking one.
I honestly feel bad for Noah in this. Abigail seems to have some deep rooted issues when it comes to relationships and Noah did come to paradise for her. She needs to accept herself into actually being loved by a guy who wants to make her feel that.
I don’t get why Abigail feels like that Noah lied about it when he clearly didn’t
I mean, “I’m falling in love you” to “I don’t think you’re my person. I’ve been losing sleep over it for days (so before the confession)” is a pretty big shift. I do agree she’s also been holding back, but I’m not sure how people wanted her to process and react to that in the moment.
Perhaps "I can certainly see why you'd feel that way. And actually, I was shocked and in disbelief when you said you were falling in love with me the other night."
I mean - honesty might have helped. Just tell him once what she tells Wells or anyone else on the beach.
If she took a second to ask herself what if he means what he says, she'd have to have been expecting him to eventually reach his limit with the wall.
I understand Abigail must have felt blindsided but what did she expect from him? He tells her he loves her and sees a bright future with her yet she doesn’t say anything to him even though Wells encouraged her too and even during the prom she still waited to say something but didn’t. Did she expect Noah to wait for her to share her feelings whenever it felt necessary to her? The guy has been 100% in with her from day 1..hasn’t gone out with anyone else and in the moment he gets doubts about their relationship and how she hasn’t shared her feelings she decides to essentially blame him for her not opening up about her own actual feelings but also because he wanted to end it??… I love Abigail but I think it was fair for Noah to be honest about the way he’s been feeling and concerns about their relationship. Nobody wants to keep fighting for you if you don’t fight for them back. That’s called a one way relationship..
They care about each other except very different love languages
She didn’t listen to how he was expressing his feelings towards her! She only listen to the part “this isn’t my person. " 😒 come on Abigail, even Wells think you’re the one holding back. 🙄
I went to sleep 2 times on him trying to tell her to get lost and she was just sitting there I felt for him because just say it.... She's just looking at him like she's trying to get him to change his mind ... making him talk more.
Part of me is mad but the other part I get it Noah told her he was in love with her but she didn’t say anything so of course he would feel scared I’m sad now Abigail has been closed off from him so I understand why he’s like this Abigail girl open up tell him u love him 😭😭😭
It's possible... just playing devil's advocate here... that she wasn't really ever that into him and being insecure and unresponsive til it drives men away is a learned strategy for remaining happily single and everyone still likes her (how can you not at least want to be nice to her / feel sorry for her).
I mean it could all be unconscious too but ultimately it's good entertainment and not everyone is in a rush to find their soul mate. You can't get on the show quite so easily if you don't at least make it look like you're trying -- or else you have an over-the-top personality like a Demi type & will screw anybody for a rose.
Having a fatal vulnerability is kind of perfect for being a likeable fixture on this franchise.
But I lean toward the "it's not entirely deliberate". I think she knows she's not ready to settle down but isn't comfortable admitting it to herself. Maybe even off camera. But I think she did like Noah.
I feel like Abigail wants a man to be all over her but she never expresses how she feels
I see both sides but I feel so bad for Abigail. they both deserve love.
Same but it’s like also Noah has been so open with her and she doesn’t give anything back to him so of course it leaves him doubt especially when the end is near :(
I don't Noah blew it. He doubt Abigail too much and made her feel betrayed and then cry in the bathroom..
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld so if you told someone you're IN LOVE with them and silence is their response, you wouldn't have done the same thing? Big red flag in my book. Even if she wasn't on the same level as him yet, she could have said that and be like "listen, I can see myself falling for you in the near future but I'm not just there yet, please bare with me and I'll promise you it'll be worth it". Noah deserves better.
@@handmadeetcllc9126 LoL I feel like Noah was panicking and the fact he didn't know what to do with his feelings was strange. Haven't seen that before. Pfft
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld well he’s been saying how much he likes her and all she does is just looks like affirm him
Abigail avoided eye contact throughout the majority of this conversation.
It was almost as though she knew where the tone of this conversation was going. It's sad they couldn't salvage their relationship.
Noah and Abigail were my favorite couple on Paradise this season.
She didn't lie during their first date... She doesn't cry!!😂 Abigail is colllllld. Noah handled it the best he could. I don't think Abigail understood what Noah was saying. Its possible to love someone but choose to end it..
Wow who knew it was going to be Tayshia's men causing all this grief geeeez.
lol 😂
But I really don’t think Noah is to fully blame here….. Abigail gave him nothing to work with. She closed herself off and had the biggest guard up. Communication is key.
@@EllDuclos yeah i agree its a two way street for sure and communication is key which is something Abigail has admitted herself is lacking but if she gave him nothing to work with then why did he say he was falling in love with her? He put himself in that situation and not abigail. Dont get me wrong i think its good of Noah to be upfront but his lack of awareness of his feelings just hurt the both of them really.
@@ellegonzi they both lacked awareness of their emotions let’s be real. But honestly I think he was just making excuses for his feelings of rejection. I think he felt rejected and got scared and then tried to do all he could to not admit that he was hurt by the rejection. At the end of the day they lacked communication and when Noah finally started communicating, she wasn’t there yet. At the end of the day probably best it didn’t work out.
@@ellegonzi I don't know anyone who would be able to remain strong and maintain the conviction of being in love with someone when given absolutely NOTHING in response. He handled this a million times better than Greg (in not having Katie say he "loves her" despite her showing him every single time she gave him extra time) and that right there shows how amazing Noah is. When you have a night to mull over an exchange, I am sure that also starts to shift your perspective and I think Noah just got to a point where he felt like he was hitting a complete wall with Abigail.
I mean it makes sense
They just aren’t a match. Noah wants contestant attention and affection words of affirmation and reassurance she can not give that to him.
@Massimiliano Giacometti I’m actually team Noah, never said I wasn’t. And there is nothing wrong with needing attention from your partner, in which Abigail does not give to him…
@Massimiliano Giacometti But she is falling in love with him? She just needed some time to register his confession and recognize her own feelings, and that’s okay. Just like it’s okay for him to end things if he’s not feeling validated or loved in the way he wants.
@@Katrina-zs3qg "Constant" ? lol what? Just because Noah wanted ONE reassurance that she feels the same and wanted Some attention/affection above the Nothing that she gives, then that doesn't mean he was ever asking for "constant" affection lmao😂 Wanting "something" above NOTHING does not equal "everything." 😂Try again.
I don't know how people are on his side with this. She's correct. How do you go from saying your falling in love the night before to this conversation?! He's probably just mad she didn't say it back. Can't stand flip floppers. She will find a super amazing man.
I mean if you put your heart out there and told someone you were falling in love and they winked at you and said nothing, you start to second guess yourself… because clearly you are being shown you are into the person way more than they are into you. She just needed to communicate her feelings more. It’s not fair to paint Noah out to be the only one at fault here… it’s okay it didn’t work.
Abigail needs to be more vocal about her feelings. i feel like she holds back a lot, waiting too long to tell him she falling in love until it's too late. that's what she struggles with. maybe she's afraid. i see their good on social media & have been seen together at events but don't know if they're back together. they just need to communicate better.
Abigail is not upfront I feel. She likes to play a little, she's even said she puts guys in friendzone and she's well aware she is doing it
I feel for both of them but you said it yourself, she didn’t say anything back. How is he supposed to be in a relationship where the other person can’t open up
Likewise, if she didn't react to some random friend telling her he was falling in love with her, why would she react to him telling her she's not "his person"?
I mean if it didn't mean anything and she assumed he "said it by accident" as she actually claimed, then hey, no biggie, it's all good, right?
Seems like he is running away bc he is afraid she will reject him. He tried to get her to open up but she didn’t so I think he assumed she wasn’t feeling the same. Even here it seems he wants more and yet she is not saying anything. Too bad
This situation is something someone knows at least once where you thought there was some form of a bond but it wasn't really there so to speak. There's no easy on either sides but I commend the man for speaking up.
Abigail didn't even acknowledge when Noah said he was falling for her....and she feels "blindsided" give me a break
She always puts the blame on him and strings him along and plays with his emotions… yuck
They were my favorite couple too 😭😭😭😭
If Abigale is deaf, but reads lips, why doesn't she look at Noah when he speaks? I think she is afraid of a relationship.
Because she was upset with him. I wouldn't look at someone who I am upset with. Pfft
I noticed that during the season as well! I’ve never heard her say that she is completely deaf tho🤔
I wondered that too but heard she has a cochlear implant which apparently allows you to hear without having to read lips.
She can hear, duh.
I honestly think he took a u-turn because Abigail didn't tell him she was falling for him too. I think they are both holding back. Makes me sad cus I thought they were both such a good fit.
nah nah nah bachelor nations favourite buzzword "blindsided"
So true 👏🏽 I don’t think they are using it in context. They are really just “sad, scared.”
and let's not forget gaslighting!
They also love the word "clarity" 🤣
I can see why Abigail is confused because just the day before Noah said he was falling in love with her BUT she never really seemed sure about her exact feelings towards him. She never said anything back and by the end it just seemed pretty forced. Noah did the right thing by breaking it off because honestly as much as everyone hyped up their relationship - it was always surface level and never really got very deep...anyways at the end of the day we don't know what else happened behind the scenes. Wish them both happiness and the love they deserve!
She should've said then and there how she felt for him
lol any number of times!
It seems weird that he would just try to end things after only one day of saying L word, seems like his ego was bruised. No patience. She was obviously trying to resolve through her feelings, and she eventually got there. She seemed to genuinely want to work through that and eventually got there. I think he pulled the plug way too fast. His intentions with her don’t seem genuine. Feels like bs, I’m with Abigail.
Man I was surprised to see everyone agreeing with Noah, what he did was unnecessary. He went from telling her that he was falling in love with her, but then 24 hours said he’s been having doubts for longer than that. It makes no sense, if he knew that they weren’t right for each other he should not have strung her along and he should’ve ended it then.
If ...
But he didn't.
Not being reciprocated should be the ultimate put-off, and it was for him. Good.
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 but he said he did know before that tho…
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 he said that he’s had that feeling for a while he should’ve never strung her along
People need time to ascertain things and see how they really feel.
Don't turn into Abigail!
He doesn't owe her anything. It's her responsibility to take care of herself, not his. He should take care of himself. GTFO with that altruistic b.s.
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 SERIOUSLY? THIS IS A REALITY SHOW IT’S NOT EVEN THAT DEEP. My point just is if he knew deep down he had that feeling… he was leading her on to believe that everything was ok when he told her he loved her. When in reality he had been feeling like it wasn’t working out for a few days. You don’t from telling someone you are falling in love with them and then 24 hours later say you’ve been having doubts about the relationship. Like what kind of mind games is that. I am totally on Abigail’s side no doubt
I don't blame her at all. He should have been more upfront with this gut feeling of his. It's natural to be blindsided. The hard part though is that it's also very common. A lot of people hide how they really feel to not upset the other person. But it usually ends up backfiring on them.
It's only a blindside if they haven't been discussing this problem to death with each other, with Wells, with their friends and with the camera operators for weeks.
I'm not sure he did her a service in the end by pretending it wasn't all about her lack of emotional expression but she has been told before and really does seem to prefer to believe that nobody genuinely has feelings for her.
I think Noah maybe confused falling in love with falling into a compulsion to rescue a helplessly wounded puppy but apparently he held out hope that she'd come out of her shell before the show wrapped. Pathos can be a strong bond but it doesn't bring happiness.
Noah did nothing wrong.
BRO I literally felt for Abigail here and although I do feel she shoulda spoke up I think it was more messed up for Noah to backtrack and say she’s not his person literally 1 day after. Feelings do not change that quick, that being said I did see something online saying that the producers set this up and I believe it and yesterday they were spotted together in his hometown in Oklahoma so they’re still together
Abigail….damn this poor girl can not catch a break. I hope she finds her special someone one day.
I hope she tells her special someone that he's her special someone someday. Instead of telling everyone else but...
I think she’s more upset he was saying one thing but saying another now like she said he said he would say anything he didn’t mean but proceeded to do so , that makes her feel she can’t trust what he says.. I like Noah but he can’t just say things without meaning and expect that from her she wanted to do it on her terms not his. And he didn’t even mean it as u can see he’s been feeling unsure for awhile.
How many weeks have they been together? People need to pursue who they really want and that needs patience. Abigail probably needs time to figure out and develop more feelings towards him, women also go through the same with the men that they like. They cannot have it as quickly as they want, noah is obviously impatient and feeling the pressure because couples around them are developing fast and he is not getting what he wanted at the time they are given. But that is the sense of love, it should not be forced. And if he really has strong feelings for her, she should wait for it. How many days had it just been? Wowww! Can’t he just wait? Abigail is worth it, and i admire her for not being like the other girls who mostly jump in every chance they get on and off the cam with their partners. She is obviously hurt too. And she doesn’t look like she just wanted a relationship for a show. In the bachelor and here.
She def couldve done more to express her feelings .. cant be onesided
Shes emotionally unavailable
Noah loves her but she didn’t respond positively like saying the same think back to him which made him think that maybe he was pushing her to feel the same as he did which put a question mark in his mind and he started questioning himself .Men don’t know that female marinate THIER feelings before they proclaim how they feel,men make a decision and go for it in a very quick way. And this happens with Noah and Abby.
Why am I getting deja vu with the Greg and Katie situation happening with Abigail and Noah
Not the same,. Kathy was giving Greg a lot of validation throughout the season, even though she was the Bachelorette! Greg was just too insecure and that ended up destroying the whole thing.
I think Abigail is just over it at this point. He has all these expectations of her instead of letting things flow naturally. That's his problem not hers. You can't force someone to be a certain way just because you like them and they like you. If u wanna go all in on the first few dates that doesn't mean your love interest will do the same.
I feel bad for both of them. I think both of them could have done better in terms of communication. Neither of them are wrong but neither are right either
you should have been decisive before telling her that you're falling in love with her, when you clearly had many doubts, fears, etc., -
I think his fears came to light once she shut down and winked at him after he opened up. I don’t blame him. She just needs to heal so she can let her guard down and communicate her feelings. It’s okay it didn’t work but it’s not just his fault. 🤷🏼♀️
@Massimiliano Giacometti It’s neither of their faults for having different coping skills and communication styles. Abigail has been upfront about how it’s easier for her to move at a slower pace, and she’s not obligated to reciprocate a falling in love in the moment- she’s allowed to process it. And Noah is allowed to feel cold feet & that he’s not getting things he needs to feel secure in a relationship outside of this. It’s just an unfortunate miscommunication, and they need to learn how to understand and verbalize their feelings. Instead of letting it simmer- Noah literally agreed w the one foot it in, one foot out comment.
One can be decisive only about one's own desires. Can't decide how she's gonna respond so can't really decide she's the one for him by himself. She helped him figure it out.
@Massimiliano Giacometti he was irresponsible, careless or dishonest with his words, and actions speak louder than words & he broke up with her after telling her the night before that he's falling in love with her
I hope they get back together. They seemed to good together.
I hope Abigail works on herself before she gets with anybody
Drink a shot every time Noah says 'like' in this break up ... lmao .. see you in the ER
Feel bad for Abby. Trusting in his actions which were bogus. Did he enjoy his vacation???
I had doubts about their relationship as well .
Great job Noah.
Guys I’ve met Noah before 😆😆😆
Now they’re married.
Abigail is so closed off. Why would he want to continue this?! Sure fun dates and kisses are nice, but when someone wants more from the person they are falling in love with, that’s nothing.
She said the worst things a guy could hear from a girl. It's really sad for Noah. But I think she likes him but is not in love with him or she doesn't like him and is here for a free vacation and publicity. I think her ego is bruised coz he dumped her. Dang girl. Even I fell in love with Noah. Why did she stick out for so long if she didn't feel any love for him. I think she gaslighted him at the end.
The thing with Abigail is that she hasn't opened up with Noah. Like you can't just smile the whole date and not say a word and expect people to be okay with it. Noah literally poured his heart out when he said I love you and you heard crickets. If I was Noah I would retreat as well. Her crying in the bathroom is the most emotion we've seen out of her this whole season. Then she tries to blame him. Naaaahhh Noah was wise for this. I also feel they're not a good match, just good friends. She told him that in the beginning too.
I’m team Noah here. Abigail shows no emotion ever. I used to like her but now I think she’s just emotionally stunted. Noah did all he could and was trying to be honest and kind. She then turned into a mean girl. Unfollowing her now. Go get some therapy, girl. Please. Stop being mean to others who actually can show their emotions
Yeah, she was cold. I think that's why he had doubts in the past, she couldn't, or wouldn't, communicate her feelings.
if you cant emote; you cant relate. Until you can do that, you're not ready for a relationship. Sorry but didnt see this situationship going anywhere.
Dang… “ she’s perfect but she’s not MY person” and the men know exactly how to blindside women..
Ugh has been said so many times to me and it breaks my heart ♥️
Edit : then they go and get in a super serious relationship with someone else. Even though you “ werent” their person, still kinda hurts :/ like Abigail said in matts season
“ I'm constantly like, that person that makes men realize what they want next, but they never want that with me ... it's a hard pill that I'm gonna have to swallow."
I guess the crux of it is that perfect doesn't mean the same as "complete" or even "enough" unfortunately.
For what she was, Abigail seemed pretty adorable. But long-term girlfriend or even wife material? Get ready for permanent agony.
It's like expecting the perfect piece of chocolate the be your breakfast, lunch and dinner. Doesn't matter how perfect it is. Something's missing.
Not to imply anything about you though. Those guys may just have been shmucks who didn't know a good thing when they saw one. :)
she needed to speak up so sad
Noah deserves so much better. Not saying she's a bad person but he just needs someone to love him back. She said "I'm gunna tell him tonight that I love him". Doesn't work that way sweetie. Men nor woman wait forever. Once they get to that point, they walk away. And for her to play the victim? Not cool. He went into panic mode and he's running away from something? When someone tells you they love you, you either say it back or give them an explanation why you don't say it back. Put your big girl panties on.. He has been open and honest from day 1. Sorry Abigail, I agree with Noah on this one.
Abigail is sooo cold
what is wrong with this woman can't she talk
she says my entire life in paradise is Noah and held her feelings 🙄
express say something ?
why did she even come to psradise wasted his time 😬
any woman would love to have Noah
good looking decent and honest