In other cities, I've seen the cops use a certain radio channel for that. Problem is, one crim is gonna be off radio then. Works well in a small building but somewhere like this it could cause problems.
They always need to keep eyes on the hostage ... in this building u can hear them through the walls but they still ask to keep sight line of the hostage or u get breached
Honestly just glad the cops pushed instead of leaving after hearing hostages are dead and 2 they took one of yours so yall should have taken tinker 😂😂😂 but i completely understand why you didnt
@@Danny2k34 it also doesnt help they did it by saying "the sound is scuffed come outside zolo" and then he dropped the gun for a second and they pulled the nopixel cop move
This situation was just dumb. To even think about doing it when you KNOW that building is scuffed is mind boggling. Like the female cop literally tells Zolo to "come talk to me right here" with "right here" being outside, so in Zolo's mind that is if he wants to communicate he has to go outside to do it. Then to add on the cops have zero information on whats going on inside, they have no clue if there's a second hostage or where the crims are. You're inciting a shootout with no information and cops shouldn't be the ones doing that. Overall this is just something that should never be attempted, as for it to be done right you need perfect conditions which 99.99% of the time you are not getting.
@OGMemes Not likely, cause if you watched Hutch after this, he didnt really reprimand anyone and even liked the idea of trying to lure away the crim from the hostage and turning the robbery into a shootout. Which just doesnt make sense cause like I said it just take everything being perfect that it shouldnt even be something cops try and do.
@@MasWas19 Hutch quite literally went down to the cells, talked to Zolo OOC and released him with all his shit illegal or not. And then had a debrief with the PD to let them know he likes the idea of what they were trying to do, but they can not use audio scuff or any other bugs to gain that advantage. It is a game, the point is to have fun and make sure everyone else has fun at the same time, not be as realistic as possible.
@garytbmsk Yeah??? I dont know how Hutch going into the cells and releasing Zolo means anything? The point is if Hutch is actively saying "Its a good idea and i like it, you just cant do it this way" (which keep in mind the cops themselves said they DIDNT do anything wrong, which was a flat out lie) that means its something the Cops are GOING to look to be doing. But given all the scuff with buildings and the fact the cops almost never will be in a situation to actually pull it off without taking a massive gamble, its not something Cops should even be thinking about doing.
Frigg these cops lmao. imagine playing RP and because an animation for a second plays like the dude opening his inventory do they instant shoot lmao. It's a video game, Animations happen within these things. You can't just dis-respect and shoot a dude holding a guy hostage cuz an animation lmao. Disgusting human beings IRL honestly (The cops). Good job CG! Keep it up.
The cop made Zo think she couldn't hear him as if it was the usual building audio scuff. That was her way of getting him into custody. And for that, she power-gamed.
No? It's not his fault he can't hear anything and decided to walk out like a goof ball without a second gunman on the hostage. This is why you always keep a gun on the hostage, Zolo fell for the bait and that's all that happened. There is no "audio scuff". It's literally made that way because you can't hear someone talking through walls. Not power gaming at all, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. It's not that difficult to have one cop at the door with a gun to the hostage for negotiations. Walk out that door at your own risk.
@Snootch and this is where you don't know what YOU'RE talking about. It's not "made that way." It is known scuff where you walk out the building and walk back in and they can hear you. Even Hutch mentioned it which is the whole point of letting Zo go. Should he have kept the gun on her while walking out or walked right back in the bank? Sure. But she made it sound like it was audio scuff so it was a weird gray area situation. She took advantage of a scuff. That's power gaming bud.
@@Snootch wtf are you talking about. You can literally hear them talking to cops through the wall. And there is an audio scuff where you can't hear people right outside the door. Zolo thought cops couldn't hear him because of scuff so he went outside to continue the RP, that's why he kept asking if they can hear him. YOU have no clue what you're talking about
There is not a "few cops." They have over 140 but 8 max at a scene. Others were on duty but patrolling. Not like NP where you call all units down to one scene.
@@MzDramaaa09 ohhh ok I guess it gives whoever a chance.Why aren't the cops using ARs tho ? I feel like that should be like mandatory gun to have for when dealing with a bank robbery
Nah, the female cop told him to come outside because the building is scuffed and you can't hear anyone when they are inside and you're outside. It's not really bad RP on her side, it's just ratty to abuse a scuffed building and then she instantly took him to MRPD whilst it was still an active shootout. The boys demolished them even with a handicap on top of an already existing group limit, which is pretty embarrassing for the cops ngl.
Oh my god dude please for the love of Christ you only need one person to do the colour circles because it always lands on the highest number you only need one person....
JUST BECAUSE ONE GUY COMES OT OF A BUILDING TO TALK TO COPS AND NEGOTIATE, DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE ARE NOT....... 1.) other POTENTIAL hostages in the building. and 2.) that there is not another person inside the building HOLDING THAT FIRST HOSTAGE AT GUN POINT FROM AN ANGLE THAT POLICE CAN NOT SEE FROM OUTSIDE................ police cuffing and trying to breach this instead of letting the "potential" hostage from living....... because as of right now WE ALL KNOW THERE IS NOT A SECOND HOSTAGE............. BUT JUST LETS ALL ACT AS IF THERE WAS A SECOND HOSTAGE....... AND I CAN FUCKINGGGGG BETTTTTTTT THAT FROM THIS POINT ON....... CG WILL HAVE SEVERAL HOSTIGES FOR EVERY SINGLE JOB THEY DO FROM THIS POINT ON................ the fact that the dumb ass lady cop (sorry, IDK who she is or I would gladly name her) made the choice to ESCELATE THE SITUATION, instead of DOING WHAT POLICE ARE TASKED TO DO !!!!!!!!! (DE - ESCELATE) is ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWING, AND IF THEY DO NOT GET ON TOP OF THAT SHIT INSTANTLY AND TELL THAT PERSON AND MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF HER........... THEN THE COPS WILL SLOWLY TURN INTO THE COPS OF NP 4.0 AND WE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL KNOW...... that is NOTTTTT the path we want to take.
Rule no.1 in RP hostage negotiations is to keep weapons aimed at the hostages at all time or shit like this will happen. Although what the cop did was not very thought out as to the ramifications it could lead to, as the person holding the hostage you can’t be caught with your pants down like that.
@@damurk1986 I kind of agree with @Trafalgar -- As much as what the cop did was super cringe and like the definition of speedrunning RP, Zolo shouldn't be so nonchalant while being the person in charge of the hostage. The lady asked him to come outside to talk terms, he gave the female cop a timeframe, he went back inside, then a few mins later went back outside in front of the hostage with his gun down and just stood there like he was having a normal conversation, face to face with police during a hostage negotiation. It was cringe to breach, but Zolo was lacking a bit. I'd never breach in that situation, but I'd also never walk outside while I'm the only one with a hostage to "shoot the shit" with the cops when I legit have no real reason to talk to them and put myself in harms way. When he went out the second time to spark a conversation with them, the cops were whispering and on radios and refusing to answer him (It's such a tell that someone is doing some sneaky shit or about to try to fuck you over in RP when they just stop communicating, especially cops. How many times have you seen that done to CG when a cop just stops talking and is stalling or planning some rat shit?) -- it was pretty obvious they weren't trying to RP/being sneaky and what was in store and Zolo just stood there asking them "Do yall have more officers coming?" ten times after he had just told them they needed more time to finish the heist. A lot of the non-OG CG guys seem to be in their head way too much or can't multitask or something. It's funny bc after Zolo said they breached on radio, either Ramee or Vinny made a comment about how "Zolo probably was flirting with that clown and got lost in the sauce" and that's basically what happened..lol.
@@ivmxthvi5296 She didn't. He also didn't say anything along the lines of that. When she started to negotiate with Zolo again, she said, "Why don't you come here to talk to me," while she was at the doors. Now I think any rational person would take that as "Come to the door so we can hear you, easier" but still, it was a fail on both sides. Also, she said that when they were negotiating and during that time, they worked out all negotiations. He told her they needed 2-3 more minutes to finish and that was done and he went back inside. When Zolo went back outside, he was asking a random question...he legit said, "Do ya'll have more cops coming," aka he really had no reason to go back out, which is why she probably thought, "This guy is being careless....he's been careless this entire time...he doesn't have his gun up, the hostage is 20 feet behind him, lets breach" and that's when they went quiet on him and started scheming while he stood there for literally 30s vulnerable and got him. As I said, it was speedrunning RP on her part and stupid. I think it was reasonable for Zolo to think they couldn't hear him, which is why he went outside, but they never said anything about it from what I watched, and I watched Zolo's entire POV and he was being that careless before she even asked him to come to the door -- he went outside multiple times with no gun up prior to her asking, too(There was also a time the cop asked to speak to the hostage and he brought her out and was also being pretty careless...just standing in front of the hostage, etc). I tried to watch her POV to see if she said anything to point to her being malicious, but it seems she deleted the VOD, which is a bit sketchy imo, bc my TwitchVODDownloader was able to find a few VODs from that day and prior still in the twitch cloud that she deleted, but yeah...very sketchy, but not sure if she did it to not get hate bc we all know how insane the RP community is, or bc there was something to hide. Here's his VOD timestamped if you're interested: www.twitch.tv/videos/2276174621?t=1h47m25s As I said previously, it's not something I would have done -- it's one of those "just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it" things in RP...just bc you can breach bc he's being careless, doesn't mean you should 99% of the time, this included, but he was also kinda at fault. Also, he was let go by Bustin Cider, but only because Hutch just "took Zolo's word" that they both exchanged words about not being able to hear each other. Hutch didn't watch the whole clip, which the part he did watch he said it was 100% fine and was a totally understandable breach, but he only watched the 1-2 mins leading up to it, not the part where she said to "come talk to me here". He said he only released him because "He was acting on the good faith belief that Zolo was only going outside because he assumed it was audio scuff and regardless what she said, he assumed that's why Zolo did it, so nothing else mattered, which I do think 100% that's why Zolo was going outside, but he was also being careless...He said, "They operate on the good faith belief and gave Zolo the benefit of the doubt that that's why Zolo went outside, so nothing else matters." Srry for the rant, but that's the full story.
This is why I love CG, they're the fuck around and find out criminals 😂
Fr fr. Usually they go with the flow until shit escalates. Then after, there's no going back. They down to holdout against PD.
It would be cool if the PD had a phone or a raido that they could give to the hostage takers so they could communicate during negotiations
They should’ve already made a specified radio channel for hostages and negotiations.
In other cities, I've seen the cops use a certain radio channel for that. Problem is, one crim is gonna be off radio then. Works well in a small building but somewhere like this it could cause problems.
They always need to keep eyes on the hostage ... in this building u can hear them through the walls but they still ask to keep sight line of the hostage or u get breached
the tinkler go crazy
Honestly just glad the cops pushed instead of leaving after hearing hostages are dead and 2 they took one of yours so yall should have taken tinker 😂😂😂 but i completely understand why you didnt
Vinny could be color blind
Insane they made it out. Such a fire event
Good thing Garret wasn’t there to drill.
Y’all OG Cg fans know.
i'm not an OG fan and trust me i saw him blick down some Seaside guys last year trying to push turf
some say he's still drilling there to this day
Good old days 😂
kevin hitting so many of his own people if you look back
If this was nopixel they would use AR on day 1 😂
should have told them you were gonna hide the dead hostage in the building so it starts to stink up the place till they find them lmao
Big W!
I honestly love these kind of fights ❤ the guys had fun even though annoyed and had fun W interaction
U hear her say on k screen come out here and talk to me 😂😂😂
Noob cop makes mistake. We get fun content. W00t
Bet the cops wont do that dumb shit again lmfao 🤣
yes they will.
It would've probably worked if they had done it on any other group tbh.
@@Danny2k34 it also doesnt help they did it by saying "the sound is scuffed come outside zolo" and then he dropped the gun for a second and they pulled the nopixel cop move
This situation was just dumb. To even think about doing it when you KNOW that building is scuffed is mind boggling. Like the female cop literally tells Zolo to "come talk to me right here" with "right here" being outside, so in Zolo's mind that is if he wants to communicate he has to go outside to do it.
Then to add on the cops have zero information on whats going on inside, they have no clue if there's a second hostage or where the crims are. You're inciting a shootout with no information and cops shouldn't be the ones doing that.
Overall this is just something that should never be attempted, as for it to be done right you need perfect conditions which 99.99% of the time you are not getting.
Thing about prodigy, maybe they learn from something like this compared to other servers.
@OGMemes Not likely, cause if you watched Hutch after this, he didnt really reprimand anyone and even liked the idea of trying to lure away the crim from the hostage and turning the robbery into a shootout. Which just doesnt make sense cause like I said it just take everything being perfect that it shouldnt even be something cops try and do.
@@MasWas19 Hutch quite literally went down to the cells, talked to Zolo OOC and released him with all his shit illegal or not. And then had a debrief with the PD to let them know he likes the idea of what they were trying to do, but they can not use audio scuff or any other bugs to gain that advantage. It is a game, the point is to have fun and make sure everyone else has fun at the same time, not be as realistic as possible.
@garytbmsk Yeah??? I dont know how Hutch going into the cells and releasing Zolo means anything? The point is if Hutch is actively saying "Its a good idea and i like it, you just cant do it this way" (which keep in mind the cops themselves said they DIDNT do anything wrong, which was a flat out lie) that means its something the Cops are GOING to look to be doing. But given all the scuff with buildings and the fact the cops almost never will be in a situation to actually pull it off without taking a massive gamble, its not something Cops should even be thinking about doing.
@@MasWas19is you stoopid?
19:28. He readjusted, bro went ahh shit he we go again
cops push in: 33:30
POOOD!!!
20:43
PD really deserved that. They are tryharding like NP cops.
RP Esports all over again.
Did tinker lead this breach? If so you can see why it was a fail breach lol
lol no it wasn't him
gg
Frigg these cops lmao.
imagine playing RP and because an animation for a second plays like the dude opening his inventory do they instant shoot lmao. It's a video game, Animations happen within these things. You can't just dis-respect and shoot a dude holding a guy hostage cuz an animation lmao. Disgusting human beings IRL honestly (The cops). Good job CG! Keep it up.
FOOOOOODDDDDD! Vinny so dumb lol
Vinny is he lacking something the others have?
Pretty much everything
17:00
your a baddddd baddd badddd boy K lool
Tinker is annoying af not even trying for RP most of the time
Why are cops in RP the weirdest, most cringe worthy kids in rp?
The cop made Zo think she couldn't hear him as if it was the usual building audio scuff. That was her way of getting him into custody. And for that, she power-gamed.
No? It's not his fault he can't hear anything and decided to walk out like a goof ball without a second gunman on the hostage. This is why you always keep a gun on the hostage, Zolo fell for the bait and that's all that happened. There is no "audio scuff". It's literally made that way because you can't hear someone talking through walls. Not power gaming at all, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. It's not that difficult to have one cop at the door with a gun to the hostage for negotiations. Walk out that door at your own risk.
@Snootch and this is where you don't know what YOU'RE talking about. It's not "made that way." It is known scuff where you walk out the building and walk back in and they can hear you. Even Hutch mentioned it which is the whole point of letting Zo go. Should he have kept the gun on her while walking out or walked right back in the bank? Sure. But she made it sound like it was audio scuff so it was a weird gray area situation. She took advantage of a scuff. That's power gaming bud.
@@Snootch zolo fell for the "bait"??? this is an rp server not gta online, there is no audio scuff "bait" dumbahh
@@Snootch wtf are you talking about. You can literally hear them talking to cops through the wall. And there is an audio scuff where you can't hear people right outside the door. Zolo thought cops couldn't hear him because of scuff so he went outside to continue the RP, that's why he kept asking if they can hear him. YOU have no clue what you're talking about
Why is there only like a few cops on this server? And also those cops need better tactics and some aim labz 😂😂
There is not a "few cops." They have over 140 but 8 max at a scene. Others were on duty but patrolling. Not like NP where you call all units down to one scene.
@@MzDramaaa09 ohhh ok I guess it gives whoever a chance.Why aren't the cops using ARs tho ? I feel like that should be like mandatory gun to have for when dealing with a bank robbery
Crazy that they finally added cops to the server. Those heists without any resistance got boring.
Zolo dumb hahahah
Nah, the female cop told him to come outside because the building is scuffed and you can't hear anyone when they are inside and you're outside. It's not really bad RP on her side, it's just ratty to abuse a scuffed building and then she instantly took him to MRPD whilst it was still an active shootout. The boys demolished them even with a handicap on top of an already existing group limit, which is pretty embarrassing for the cops ngl.
Embarrassing that pd had numbers and still lost
Bro they literally had to push them in a room while they were holding 1 door with 4 people what did you expect.😂
Oh my god dude please for the love of Christ you only need one person to do the colour circles because it always lands on the highest number you only need one person....
First
Is tinker even a cop? Listen to him, doesn’t sound like a cop to me
JUST BECAUSE ONE GUY COMES OT OF A BUILDING TO TALK TO COPS AND NEGOTIATE, DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE ARE NOT....... 1.) other POTENTIAL hostages in the building. and 2.) that there is not another person inside the building HOLDING THAT FIRST HOSTAGE AT GUN POINT FROM AN ANGLE THAT POLICE CAN NOT SEE FROM OUTSIDE................
police cuffing and trying to breach this instead of letting the "potential" hostage from living....... because as of right now WE ALL KNOW THERE IS NOT A SECOND HOSTAGE............. BUT JUST LETS ALL ACT AS IF THERE WAS A SECOND HOSTAGE....... AND I CAN FUCKINGGGGG BETTTTTTTT THAT FROM THIS POINT ON....... CG WILL HAVE SEVERAL HOSTIGES FOR EVERY SINGLE JOB THEY DO FROM THIS POINT ON................ the fact that the dumb ass lady cop (sorry, IDK who she is or I would gladly name her) made the choice to ESCELATE THE SITUATION, instead of DOING WHAT POLICE ARE TASKED TO DO !!!!!!!!! (DE - ESCELATE) is ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWING, AND IF THEY DO NOT GET ON TOP OF THAT SHIT INSTANTLY AND TELL THAT PERSON AND MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF HER........... THEN THE COPS WILL SLOWLY TURN INTO THE COPS OF NP 4.0 AND WE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL KNOW...... that is NOTTTTT the path we want to take.
Rule no.1 in RP hostage negotiations is to keep weapons aimed at the hostages at all time or shit like this will happen. Although what the cop did was not very thought out as to the ramifications it could lead to, as the person holding the hostage you can’t be caught with your pants down like that.
Bullshit. He was let go because it was complete b.s.
@@damurk1986 I kind of agree with @Trafalgar -- As much as what the cop did was super cringe and like the definition of speedrunning RP, Zolo shouldn't be so nonchalant while being the person in charge of the hostage. The lady asked him to come outside to talk terms, he gave the female cop a timeframe, he went back inside, then a few mins later went back outside in front of the hostage with his gun down and just stood there like he was having a normal conversation, face to face with police during a hostage negotiation. It was cringe to breach, but Zolo was lacking a bit.
I'd never breach in that situation, but I'd also never walk outside while I'm the only one with a hostage to "shoot the shit" with the cops when I legit have no real reason to talk to them and put myself in harms way. When he went out the second time to spark a conversation with them, the cops were whispering and on radios and refusing to answer him (It's such a tell that someone is doing some sneaky shit or about to try to fuck you over in RP when they just stop communicating, especially cops. How many times have you seen that done to CG when a cop just stops talking and is stalling or planning some rat shit?) -- it was pretty obvious they weren't trying to RP/being sneaky and what was in store and Zolo just stood there asking them "Do yall have more officers coming?" ten times after he had just told them they needed more time to finish the heist. A lot of the non-OG CG guys seem to be in their head way too much or can't multitask or something. It's funny bc after Zolo said they breached on radio, either Ramee or Vinny made a comment about how "Zolo probably was flirting with that clown and got lost in the sauce" and that's basically what happened..lol.
@@sunni_11apparently she said she couldn't hear him (aka she used a scuff mechanic to lure him out side to shoot him)
@@ivmxthvi5296 She didn't. He also didn't say anything along the lines of that. When she started to negotiate with Zolo again, she said, "Why don't you come here to talk to me," while she was at the doors. Now I think any rational person would take that as "Come to the door so we can hear you, easier" but still, it was a fail on both sides. Also, she said that when they were negotiating and during that time, they worked out all negotiations. He told her they needed 2-3 more minutes to finish and that was done and he went back inside.
When Zolo went back outside, he was asking a random question...he legit said, "Do ya'll have more cops coming," aka he really had no reason to go back out, which is why she probably thought, "This guy is being careless....he's been careless this entire time...he doesn't have his gun up, the hostage is 20 feet behind him, lets breach" and that's when they went quiet on him and started scheming while he stood there for literally 30s vulnerable and got him. As I said, it was speedrunning RP on her part and stupid. I think it was reasonable for Zolo to think they couldn't hear him, which is why he went outside, but they never said anything about it from what I watched, and I watched Zolo's entire POV and he was being that careless before she even asked him to come to the door -- he went outside multiple times with no gun up prior to her asking, too(There was also a time the cop asked to speak to the hostage and he brought her out and was also being pretty careless...just standing in front of the hostage, etc). I tried to watch her POV to see if she said anything to point to her being malicious, but it seems she deleted the VOD, which is a bit sketchy imo, bc my TwitchVODDownloader was able to find a few VODs from that day and prior still in the twitch cloud that she deleted, but yeah...very sketchy, but not sure if she did it to not get hate bc we all know how insane the RP community is, or bc there was something to hide. Here's his VOD timestamped if you're interested: www.twitch.tv/videos/2276174621?t=1h47m25s
As I said previously, it's not something I would have done -- it's one of those "just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it" things in RP...just bc you can breach bc he's being careless, doesn't mean you should 99% of the time, this included, but he was also kinda at fault. Also, he was let go by Bustin Cider, but only because Hutch just "took Zolo's word" that they both exchanged words about not being able to hear each other. Hutch didn't watch the whole clip, which the part he did watch he said it was 100% fine and was a totally understandable breach, but he only watched the 1-2 mins leading up to it, not the part where she said to "come talk to me here". He said he only released him because "He was acting on the good faith belief that Zolo was only going outside because he assumed it was audio scuff and regardless what she said, he assumed that's why Zolo did it, so nothing else mattered, which I do think 100% that's why Zolo was going outside, but he was also being careless...He said, "They operate on the good faith belief and gave Zolo the benefit of the doubt that that's why Zolo went outside, so nothing else matters." Srry for the rant, but that's the full story.
Why didnt ya guys rob all the cops
Unable to rob cops on duty, like the option is not there.
Unfortunately it isn't possible to rob the cops that's why they didn't try to
you cant rob cops that are on duty
honestly lootboxing cops is cringe anyways crims have to work for their stuff cops buy it for cheap. if they could loot it would be gg economy
@@LoyalUK technically they aren't on duty when they're dead