UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra Setup, Unboxing, Comparison | Ubiquiti Networks UCG-Ultra
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Ubiquiti released Cloud Gateway Ultra: more powerful than the UniFi Express and the Dream Router. I'll show you the features, we'll unbox it, configure it, and I'll help you decide if this UniFi device is for you.
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0:00 UniFi Announcement
1:50 Features
3:37 What's in the Box?
6:12 How to Setup
9:44 Enable UCG Ultra Features
12:25 Is this the UniFi You Should Get?
13:18 vs. UX
15:04 vs. UDR
17:08 Comparison Summary
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Here's the Ultra PoE+ switch they released (3 main options): th-cam.com/video/g0pWnFTK5Wk/w-d-xo.html
man fanastic video... but what is 'cloud' about these cloud devices or is it just a bad naming? Is there anything sent to and from Unifi that you are aware of that is not stored on the device locally? Like you can do a local User on the Cloud Ultra device and not have a Unifi Cloud login that requires connection to their servers yea?
This is what I have at home and I love it. Love that I don't need a cloudkey.
Many people want to know how to migrate from an existing USG-3P / Cloud Key Gen 1 setup to this. A step-by-step video would be very helpful. One person told me he wasn't able to restore the old system from the backup, so he had to set up the entire system again, adopt devices, configure wifi networks again, etc. while another said he had to do it via a cloud backup, and then another one said it just worked for him. Probably you need to "forget" the usp-3p first, then backup, then disconnect usg-3p and cloudkey gen1, then attach cloud gateway ultra and restore from backup. (?) And yes.. an other said he was able to do it, he just had to complete the setup process first and get online, then he was able to restore from backup.. but it's a bit confusing what works and what doesn't, and I assume thousands are going to do this sort of migration this year, so it would be great to have a step-by-step guide that is bulletproof.
I guess it depends on how many AP's you have. I'm doing it and I'm aware the CK Gen 1 runs old software so am dubious about a backup and migration. I have 3 AP's so I am just going to reset them and re-adopt them on the UCG.
I'm really happy with mine. Definite upgrade from the USG3. Enjoying the built-in Network app, which has replaced my Unifi Controller Docker container.
managed to place order today , was avaialable in EU store for like 15min and sold out !
Already sold
I got one too ! I actually really like it too ! Good video sir !
Thanks! I wish I bought more lol
Can it do policy based routing on port? In multi wan config?
Would be perfect for my parents house with a switch and AP
Hi can i import a backup to this from older unifi USG device? or will i have to reconfigure all my settings?
If I have the UXG lite already does this make sense, I host my 2 sites in the cloud. Thanks!
thank you for your content! currently I look for a perfect setup with 3 G5 cameras, 3 Inwall6 APs and about 6 LANs. Unfortunately I have no space for a rack, so DM SE with an additional Switch will be complicated. Would you recommend a setup with a CGU Ultra with an additional CK Gen2 for Protect and a POE Switch?
Exactly. You got it! Just factor in the PoE budget for APs and cameras to make sure you get enough.
Can this device be used without modem, so directly on the mediaconverter ?
Can you do a video of upgrading from USG with cloud key to Cloud Gateway Ultra?
I got one on the first day, and would definitely be interested in seeing how you setup non Unifi AP's, since I'm running with the Lite 8 switch, the Gateway Ultra, and a Linksys 6E Mesh system!
You would need to configure your Linksys devices as APs only, this should disable the routing and DHCP functionality which would be handled by the UCG Ultra. Not sure if the meshing would still work though, you would have to test it out. The downside to having this setup is that you wouldn't be able to manage your wifi through the Unify console.
Correct. I’m not sure about the meshing either. Anything connected to your non-Unifi AP would appear as a “wired” connection in Unifi. No WiFi settings at all. You would control the WiFi and SSIDs through your non-Unifi router portal. This also means you can’t add any Unifi mesh devices such as the SmartPower Strip as that needs a Unifi AP.
Have you got it to work with Linksys? I do tutorial for a Netgear here: th-cam.com/video/3uVsDbu23Nc/w-d-xo.html
I see they have an ultra switch too with different adapters/wattage. Which one do i need to connect to the gateway ultra to power up 2 x U6 Pro access points?
U6 Pro take 13 watts max each (techspecs.ui.com/unifi/wifi/u6-pro) So you'll need to have a budget of 26W of PoE. The 60W version of the Ultra Switch will get you 52W of available PoE. That's your best option if you're connecting the switch directly to the UCG Ultra.
However, it's cheaper to get the Switch Lite 8 PoE instead for $110. Will give you 52W of total PoE as well plus it has PoE+ ports. So just compare the two and if you really need the Ultra switch: store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-utility/products/usw-lite-8-poe
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would you recommend this as a replacement for my Edgerouter 4 ? It is still working great but all my switches and APs are Unifi so I'm mostly interested in being able to manage everything from one UI. Also the extra ports make it good for my use case. I'm not interested in protect or access so network only doesn't bother me. My internet is 1000mbps down / 30mbps up. Is this a good replacement in terms of hardware and performance or is the Edgerouter 4 still more performant ?
I’m not sure about the edgerouter but you’ll be good with the Ultra. The WAN is 2.5 GbE but the LANs are 1G. There’s also no link aggregation. The ultra really is good for 1G but not much more.
I want to mount it on the wall!
Does this have routing capability?
Hi, I have a question. This device make a integration with active directory polices or/and organizational units?
I doubt it. UniFi has their own thing called UniFi Identity. Can be used with all their tech like door access and VPN. ui.com/identity
I understand that it's totally not the same thing but that's just what they push for a simple setup.
i'm currently using a usg 1st gen with a CK Gen2 for Protect
can i upgrade to this cloud gateway ultra and keep my CK gen2 for protect ?
Yeah. That should be a good setup. The UCG Ultra will be your cloud gateway that runs the Unifi Network OS and your CloudKey+ would run Protect.
I just finished watching your video on UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra. Wow, did I learn a lot! I just got into the UniFi ecosystem and made a mistake. It started with Express, and I quickly realized I had too many devices (94) to continue using Express. I upgraded to the Dream Router, and now I am seeing slow internet speeds of 330Mbps when I pay for 1.5 Gbps. So, I need to move to the UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra. If I get the UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra, can I still use the Express and Dream Router as Access Points or remove them from my setup?
Thank you for your time.
U can use UDR as AP, no problems at all although bit of an overkill 😅.
Right, Ultra Gateway at minimum. The Express can be used as an AP but I'm pretty sure the UDR cannot. You can only have one UniFi Network per cloud gateway but the Express is the exception. I would try to sell the UDR honestly. They're always in demand. The Express would be fine as the AP if that's enough for your coverage and devices. Otherwise, pick up at minimum a U6-Plus and sell the Express as well. Alternately, can keep the Express as a wireless switch that meshes to your U6-plus. The two ports on the Express will become LAN ports and anything you plug in will work much faster than directly through wifi. I've tested this out on my Mac. Saw 50% faster speeds than through wifi.
Trick question. If I setup the gateway and hook up to it one AP in Bridge mode that is not from Ubiquity, Will I still see the clients connected in that list you just presented? Also is it possible to have two DHCP servers and have two different local IP networks and create static leases for each of them? Thanks in advance.
Anyone got some info regarding this? Maybe from previous experience with UXG Lite?
You will see the clients connected to a non-ubiquity access point. However, it will show us as wired clients to the gateway. You won’t be able to do any radio control.
Two DHCP servers in one subnet isn't let's say optimal solution 😂
I guess vlans are you thinking about, then u obviously will have separate DHCP per vlan/subnet.
I want to buy this. Do you know if I can run the wifi 6 access points off of this or wifi 7 access points and run the 24 port or 16 port Poe switch
For sure. I added a UniFi wifi 6 AP and PoE switch and SmartPower Strip.
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good to know.
I have so many issues with my Google nest wifi pros.
I’ll be deploying this and 3 wifi 6 ap’s and a 24 port poe switch thanks for the info
I want to buy this. Can I use a tp link unmanaged switch with this right?
For sure!
can i use multiple cloud gateway ultras together in multi-site mgmt? i want to use multi-site with my familys home, but figured a UX wont work. can i use 2x cloud gateway ultras for each site with their respective AP's etc, or do I need an extra cloudkey to manage the sites?
If you mean that each location has one UCG Ultra, then yes. That’s a perfect setup for Site Magic. You don’t need a cloudkey as the UCG Ultra includes that. You can add APs or whatever else to each UCG Ultra as needed.
@@ApexOneTechcan you site magic between the ultra and ux also? I find unifi terminology so confusing.
Yes. I totally understand. Just look at the device and try to see in the description or what category they are in. A cloud gateway means you have can have the Unifi controller on Unifi.ui.com and also can do site magic between two devices. So if you’re looking for home use between family homes, then most likely you’ll buy any two devices from the following: the UX, UDR, or UCG Ultra.
can i migrate all my udm pro settings to this?
You can backup and try to restore to the UCG Ultra but the UDM Pro is more capable so some things won't translate. FYI that PPPoE is a known issue right now with the UCG Ultra if that's something you use.
I'm waiting delivery of my Cloud Gateway Ultra. If I connect the Gateway to my modem for setup my wi fi will be down as all AP will be disconnected. When you set it up with the IPAD does the IPAD need to be connected to the internet or does the App just connect to the Gateway by blue tooth. If it needs the internet I could use my phone as a hot spot for my IPAD or I could just use the phone.
It has Bluetooth so you’ll have no problem setting it up without WiFi. I would recommend just using your smartphone.
@@ApexOneTech thank you
This would work with FLEX mini switch?
For sure. Any switch really. If you want full control from UniFi, then must be a UniFi switch.
@@ApexOneTech thanks man.
@@ApexOneTech also quick question does the site magic of unifi requires all sites to have STATIC PUBLIC IP? or at least 1 site only? Base on what i have read to forums at least 1? Do you have any ideaa thankyou
Can you make a video on using netgear with cloud gateway ultra?
Yes! Already recorded. In the pipeline to be published soon.
Here you go! th-cam.com/video/3uVsDbu23Nc/w-d-xo.html
Does this come with a 10 second safe shutdown if electricity blocks out?? like sa uckg2plus? does it have built in battery? thanks
does it support link aggregation?
No
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I have the UDR, it covers my entire 3 story house with plaster walls.
the UDR is paired with one access point in the attic room, but the UDR's WiFi is so good no devices even use the access point.
the UDR is a great device
Nice! Is it a townhome design? Where is the UDR, second floor?
However the UDR's IPS/IDS only has 11 security protocols vs. 35 for the UCG-Ultra. Boom.
@@ApexOneTech the UDR is on the first floor, it's a duplex
I have 2Gb via my ISP. I wonder could I used the 2.5GbE WAN port and aggregate 2 x 1GbE LAN ports to a managed 2.5GbE switch or something...
Unfortunately not, doesn’t do aggregation. Think of it as more of a 1 Gbps. Given that it can handle 2.5 WAN, you should get true 1 Gbps with full suspicious activity on, unlike the UDR for example.
The switch backplane on this is 1Gbps. You would need to step up to the UDM Pro/SE
@@VulgrDisplay Thanks. I might just wait a small bit and see if a UDM Pro SE Max Ultra comes out... 🙂
How to migrate from Edge Router X to Cloud Gateway Ultra?
Do you have any unifi devices already? Software controller running?
@@TitoLukason yes. Edge router x and unifi APs. I am getting Cloud Gateway Ultra this week.
yes. Edge Router X, and some unifi APs. Today I got my Cloud Gateway Ultra.@@TitoLukason
@@RobertHorvat I had somewhat similar setup, year ago bought UDM. I had unifi ctrlr setup on Ubuntu server on hyper-v, did export setting from it and restored them on UDM, although firewall settings from edgerouter X had to be done manually.
Btw at the end I've done it again few weeks later, but that time from scratch.
Only if they were in stock. Oh well.
They do keep popping in but sell out fast. Ubiquiti will never notify you on time though. These will probably get in stock again as others might purchase the Max instead.
So close and yet so far, why couldn’t they just make it have POE ports huh? So,if you wanted to plug in any AP’s you’ll need another POE router or a POE power supply.
There’s always design constraints. Typical trade offs here were price and even size. PoE add more parts and room needed. They could’ve done all of that but then it would larger and more expensive. It’s like the new UDM Pro Max. No PoE for similar reasons. This UCG ultra is really meant to be paired with their USW ultra or any other Poe switch if needed. For the price and speed with full threat detection, I think it’s great.
Man Dream Machine SE is more professional than Dream Machine PRO. How couldn't you notice it?
Good morning Bogdan, thank you for your explanation. I have one question, Does Cloud gateway ultra support PPPoE over VLAN configuration on WAN port?
It should. I haven't configured but others noted some initial issues with that configuration--seems like a software issue. Others say they got it working.
Anyone else can confirm?