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Undeniable Proof of God's Existence
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Both atheists and theists alike, on the question of God’s existence, like to portray their position as the more rational one.
Atheists will say, prove it to me. You’re making extraordinary claims, therefore give me irrefutable evidence such that it would be impossible to deny. This, btw, is a standard of proof far in excess of anything science has ever had to demonstrate.
Not only do they expect a perfectly sound argument, but they expect it to be the exact kind of evidence that each subjective examiner needs to satisfy his or her own particular hang-up.
And theists love to try to rise to those occasions. They’ll say things like, “Well, I know some arguments. I heard this one called the cosmological argument one time. Here’s how it goe...”.
Or, “I know one called the ontological argument; it’s very clever.” And so they will begin until they eventually end, both self-satisfied that theirs is the more logical position - without having found any common ground.
But if both were more honest with themselves, they would have to admit that their reasons for believing or not believing have far less to do with reason than they’d like to admit - as do most other reasons that influence major decisions in our lives.
Yes, we are rational beings with an intellect, but we are also emotional beings with passions and it is our passions that tend to dominate a far greater portion of our decision making than we like to admit.
Take the person you vote for. Very few people vote, consistently, on purely coherent and rational grounds.
You may have seen those street commentary videos where someone will ask a random person what they think of a given political candidate and they’ll say, “Oh I hate him.” Then they’ll ask them if they agree with a litany of policies to which the brave respondent will reply, “Oh yes, I agree with that.” Only to eventually have the trap closed on them when it’s revealed that all of the policies they agreed with originate from the candidate that they don’t like.
People, as far as I can tell, don’t tend to vote for the person that they agree with. They tend to vote for the person that they like, and their reasons for liking them tend to be based, more, on an emotional response than a rational one.
What about the car you drive - why did you buy that car? Was it a purely rational choice? Did you rationally survey all the variables and choose the exact right car that fits your life and needs and budget?
Or did you get talked into something by a smooth salesperson who preyed upon your passions? Did you choose the white one because you like white? Did you get the one with bigger rims, because you thought, hey, that’ll make me look cool? Did you get talked into a certain trim package because of the way it made you feel - with little regard for whether it made rational sense to spend the extra money on it or not?
What about when your significant other said, “I love you.” Did you cross your arms and say, that sounds nice, but I’m withholding judgement until you can empirically prove that to me. I’m going to need to see microscopic love proteins swimming through your veins before I act on that information.
Or did you go, “really? Me? You love me?” And yet, how many of us were manipulated by those words when we should have been more shrewd about that confession.
But when it comes to the question of God, we want a purely rational explanation for all of our questions and objections and if we don’t do that for all the other important decisions in our life, then isn’t that an indictment of our own insincerity?
Why do we do that? Is it a defense mechanism? It sure seems like it to me. I know for a period of my life it’s an excuse I used among those who wanted to inspire an appreciation for the divine in me.
The truth is, the difference between those who sincerely believe in God and those who hide behind a rational façade, is the difference between humility and pride not rational and superstitious.
People who sincerely believe in God often go through an experience where they admit to themselves that they aren’t smart enough to riddle out a theory of everything or the singularity behind all that exists, which is what you’d have to do to have God proven to you.
They experience enough of a twinge of humility that they can say something like, “God, I don’t know if you’re out there, but if you are, I’d really like to know you.” Something like that traces my own experience.
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I'm a bit disappointed and even embarrassed by some of the comments this video has attracted. People are saying, "Where's the proof?" At no point did I say I was going to provide undeniable proof. This video is a criticism of the claim to require undeniable proof. It is a demonstration that, by the way we treat other topics and theories, it is inconsistent and, therefore, a defence mechanism against a fair and reasonable exploration of the concept of God to require "undeniable proof" in this one instance of life. Undeniable proof certainly doesn't exist for theories like Darwinian Evolution but we shouldn't require it to be undeniable... just reasonable. That's what this video is about and that is its thesis. On that ground, the title is entirely appropriate, although, admittedly a bit clickbaity - but this is TH-cam my friends and we don't capture those clicks with titles that don't entice. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Nonetheless, there are arguments being put forward in this video that do require a response from someone who demands undeniable proof, so please, if you're going to respond, respond to those. Do not respond to some anticipated phantom argument for the existence of God that is not in this video. If you want to watch a video with an argument for God's existence, kindly consider this one: th-cam.com/video/wVmKQ9pxuFU/w-d-xo.html
More than disappointed and embarrassed...it's kind of funny seeing how many people couldn't even listen to the video, and they just use their preconceived notions to write out such emotional comments lol
@ Brian Holdsworth look at the title of your video you lied
@@vincentwiese8414 Um. He didn't say "I have undeniable proof of gods existence"...so no. He didn't lie. What are you, 5?
@@HilyahAsSalaf the title of his video is Undeniable proof of God's existence so he wasn't truthful at all
The request for undeniable proof is a fair one and not at all in the same category as evolution(Darwinian evolution is an old term and much has been added to the theory since his day).
Believing a god exists would be a life changing event, and as such requires undeniable proof, evolution being true or false wouldnt alter my life very much if at all, however it does have undeniable evidence from several different sciences, in fact it has at least as ,much as and probably more supporting evidence than the heliocentric theory which most people willingly accept as true.
Im sure you are not one of those who doesnt understand the difference between a normal theory and a scientific theory, so Im puzzled as to why you would say undeniable proof doesnt exist for evolution, perhaps I should enquire as to whether you mean evolution or the theory of evolution by natural selection because they are different things of course.
As for the 'arguments' you say need answering in this video, well they dont stand up too well. You keep asking if emotions are also a part of decision making, and yes of course they are, but to try and use the 'does my partner really love me ' analogy is ridiculous because I know my partner exists, I can see them, touch them, assess them and what they do, not so with any gods.
And then to try and claim non believers are somehow hiding from or avoiding the truth is an old ploy. It is very annoying to be told we are not humble enough or that to have a god proven in a rational we we would need to work out a theory of everything, non of which is true.
You even try to make light of the burden or proof, saying you hid behind it, when in fact it is not a shield but a very simple concept, those who make a truth claim have the burden of proof if they want others to believe that claim.
You say you had an experience which led to your belief, and that you actively sought out evidence to confirm this, not surprisingly you found what you looked for.
You also say you found atheists who claimed your arguments had been answered but couldnt tell you how , you must know different atheists to those I do because we dont say something has been answered already unless we can actually show this to be true ( feel free to suggest a few of these unanswered arguments and I will do my best to answer them).
The room analogy makes me giggle, it tries to make non believers seem silly and mule headed, but is flawed , the person who claims to have entered the room using the phrase could just show others how they did it, on seeing it work they would of course use it themselves. To be an accurate analogy this room would need to be invisible, undetectable , and the person who claims to have entered it couldnt tell you where it was or what was in it, only that to enter this undetectable room you would need to chant a rhyme , and that trying to find the room first shows you dont really want to enter it.
This entire video is just packed full of sly digs at non believers, they are proud, boastful,not humble,hiding behind things,not willing to learn,etc etc etc. If only they did as you did they would see this god, well sorry, but I hear that from all religions,those who follow one god those who follow many gods those who follow the universe as a god, all have one thing in common, they cant prove any of their claims and so they say its our fault for not being receptive , open, humble. Im constantly told by believers that absolutely nothing would cause them to not believe, yet I am told Im closed minded by saying " show me convincing evidence and I will have no choice but to believe". which is the truly closed minded?
So his proof for god is, “I don’t have to prove god.”. Saved you 14 minutes.
Thank you so much! I assumed but I’ll still watch the rest out of curiosity
As usual.
Did you read the pinned comment? At most he is guilty of clickbaiting, but this is TH-cam. The whole video was not about presenting a proof, but talking about proof itself.
@@CantusTropus do you have proof for God?
@@CantusTropus yes, and then claiming it was unnecessary.
You seem like a nice guy, but I fundamentally disagree with what you said.
Omega 6 why?
@@tanneraltenkirk7262 because he didn’t give undeniable reasons to why God exist he just gave perspective of why go exist
OK, so someone needs to check the meaning of the words "undeniable" and "proof".
ikr :/
Just take the meaning of the words "on faith". 😂
also how he uses pride and humility in one definitional context, then changes the definition partway through in a dishonest manner to try and stabilize the disingenuous premise.
"god is love" what does this even mean? Trying to do algebra on metaphors.
@@Tann114 He's saying he's a part of Aphrodite's cultoi.
"At no point did I say I was going to provide undeniable proof"
Except for in the title and thumbnail of this video.
You may as well set up a fruit stand with pictures of fruit and prices next to them. When customers approaches your stand, admonish them and say "Woah woah hold up there! Did I ever say I was selling fruit? You've made a massive assumption. I'm only here to explain why fruit prices are too high, silly!"
Lmao ikr, This shit was so incredibly stupid it just dropped my iq permanently.
@Travon Richardson Yep, and that "teasing" wastes everybody's time. It's not like we have time to waste - each of us only has one life after all.
@@petercumpson6867 dude ur on TH-cam if ur worried about wasting time, go outside
@@bananamanjr.5958 Hey, I was offered "Undeniable proof of gods existence" by a bloke desperately trying to look like Jesus.
@Travon Richardson Hey nice you straight copy'd that text.
Uncle Iroh:“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but it's source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.”
flavorgod another great quote was from Twin Peaks when the log lady asked if Major Briggs was “proud of his shiny medals in his chest?” And he responded with “achievement has its own rewards, and pride obscures them.” I always remember that when going through life.
Hello fellow Catholic ATLA fan :)
"Why don't you sit and enjoy a cup of calming Jasmine tea"
Yep. Humility is the antidote for a gazillion of man's problems. It truly is amazing to have such a gift from God!
Life-changing, and very freeing, for sure. :)
Christianity is a false humility, because it still places the human at the center of the universe
The reason there is a high standard of proof for god's existence is because there is no reason whatsoever to believe in it.
If someone told you there's an invisible untouchable unicorn right next to you would you believe it? Then why should I believe in your god?
Exactly
@Help Viewer There are many answers to this, since I like maths I will give you amathematical one.
Having infinite possible religions my probability of choosing the right god is exactly 0%.
Obviously being an atheist I don't believe in hell so that doesn't matter.
But let's assume you are right, the christian god (I assume you are christian) exists, that god loves me but it will make me suffer for eternity if I am not subservient enough to him. That sounds like a contradiction to me.
Your god is just, but if I dare believe reason instead of a mith dating back to the roman empire (which can hardly be calleda crime if you ask me) for the finite time of my life I will suffer for eternity. That's an infinite penalty for a finite "crime", the farthest thing from justice.
@Help Viewer The example you are giving is know as Pascal’s Wager. The main problem atheists have with this argument is the false dichotomy it creates, since it’s made to specifically talk about a very specific type of God, one which sends certain people to heaven and others to hell (requirements for entering heaven may differ depending to which theist you are speaking to).
This wager assumes this as the only possibility of a God, while all the other possibilities of Gods that don’t have this heaven and hell concept aren’t taken into consideration. Not just that, but many religions specifically require that you believe in their very specific God to get into heaven, so if you’re a Christian and the Muslims end up being right, you won’t get into heaven either way, as you’d be believing in a false God to the Muslim perspective.
Imagine that a theist of another religion form yours tells you this:
“I am part of a religion which has the best imaginable heaven, infinitely better than all the other heavens from other religions and the worst suffering imaginable if you believe in any other God then the one I believe.”
By your line of reasoning, wouldn’t it make more sense to start believing in this God now, since if you are wrong about the current God you believe in, it means you’ll spend eternity in an infinitely worse hell than the one from your religion. Would you risk continuing in your religion knowing this is a possibility?
@Help Viewer So you believe in any random internet urban legend
@Help Viewer No, Its not. What if God is actually testing if you use the brain it gave you and by accepting things on blind faith you fail the test. So all of us who critically thought about it really get to go to heaven and those who accepted on blind faith go to hell.
OR What if God is real but your worshipping the wrong version. Perhaps Islam is right, Maybe its the Mormons. Maybe its actually the Hindus that are correct! Theism is just not worth the risk.
I am confused what this video is saying. That we should be humble and look for God before dismissing his existence? I don’t think that most atheists have dismissed God without actually looking for him. From my experience, most left after searching and not finding sufficient evidence. Definitely not “undeniable” evidence.
He’s called the invisible God for a reason, those that really want him find him.
Those that don’t really want to find him, don’t find him and they always somehow call God a tyrant and say things like “I will not submit” so once again it’s pride all over again.
Not the lack of evidence, rather the lack of not loving God to begin with, and exactly what he wants, culling the herd and those that really and truly love God will be with him.
So use all your brains, your science and your what not, but ultimately if you don’t love God then life your life now and enjoy it while you can.
God bless you
It's the same with the Norse Gods you will find them if your heart is open and you truly is honest in your search. Then they will reveal themself. So if you try and they don't reveal themself you know that your heart is to closed for the TRUTH.
@@erikelenstrom9685 The Norse gods? Lmao, that’s all satan and his kingdom, they simply changed things around for each time era and culture.
If you read the Bible you would know this, shows how much you know about “norse gods” read the history on all these religions and “gods”.
Why you think they all do the same poses? Who do you honestly think they worship? You really think these “fake religions and gods” are just mumbo jumbo?
Those gods are real, and they aren’t made up, they’re different angels that fell with satan.
God doesn’t care about you, you don’t care about him, you don’t believe in him, you aren’t searching for him.
Those that want God, find him, you want nothing to do with him, he has nothing to prove to you or to show you, you choose him or you don’t.
You live your life as you please, he doesn’t need you to believe in him or not, he wants you too, but you are free to not believe in him or his existence but the proof and evidence is all out there.
People would rather believe in these fallen angels, “Norse, Hindu, Asian, African, Aztec, etc gods” and aliens over the actual one True God.
That’s all satan and his kingdom, yes you will find them as well, go call out to him, he’ll ignore you too since you’re already going to hell and he has no need to come after you 😹
@@KaneCiticani I'm sorry that you have been fooled by the Jötnar whiteout even trying to find the true gods.
You don't even have the courage to try to try to find them. Instead you just whant to do what you want.
Instead of worshipping theis false gods you should lock in to the history of the abrahamic religions to see how false they are.
It is so sad to se the power the Jötnar have over some pepoles minds.
I pray to Freya that she will heal you from theis delusions.
@@KaneCiticani Brainwashed idiot. "Haha my god is real but everyone elses gods cannot exist because there is only one magical invisible god nobody has talked to!"
One of the worst argument I've ever heard.
@ Especially when he grossly misrepresents the situation. He's argueing that we should accept any claim anybody makes because we sometimes make decisions like if i want to eat popcorn today on a whim. That's not remotely related. I don't need proof that the car i decided to buy is the best car there is. But when you come to me telling me that my car sucks and you have a better one for me that fits me perfectly, that'll be $200k thanks, then yeah, i'll want proof that your claim is true and your car is better than my car. Especially if i need to heavily invest into it.
No amount of wordgames will ever shift the burden of proof. Christians make a claim, christians have to prove it.
@Travon Richardson
You are confusing denial with objective evidence. While there are no absolutes, we can establish metrics based on paradigms/a datum to act as if there are absolutes. This is how our legal system works and how methodological naturalism works (science).
@Travon Richardson Surely "undeniable" here would mean cannot be denied by any honest, rational person. Otherwise its just silly word games.
God does actually exist. There are many distinct versions of the modal ontological argument but one of the most straightforward can be presented as follows.
According to ‘perfect being theism’, a form of theism most widely accepted among Judaeo-Christian-Islamic theists, God is a being that exists necessarily. Such a being is distinct from contingent beings like tables, cars, planets and people, which exist merely by chance. If God exists at all, there is no possible situation in which he fails to exist. Proponents of perfect being theism also typically say that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, and morally perfect because he is perfect in all respects. This observation suggests that the thesis ‘it is possible that God exists’ is equivalent to ‘it is possible that, necessarily, an all-powerful, all-knowing and morally perfect being exists.’ At this point the modal ontological argument appeals to a principle in modal logic that is widely accepted by logicians: If it is ‘possible’ that something is ‘necessary’, then that thing is simply ‘necessary.’ In other words, if we have the sentence ‘it is possible that something is necessary’ we can drop the phrase ‘it is possible that’ without changing the meaning. If we apply this logical principle to what we have derived so far, namely, the thesis ‘it is possible that, necessarily, an all-powerful, all-knowing and morally perfect being exists’, we can derive the thesis ‘it is necessary that an all-powerful, all-knowing and morally perfect being exists.’ This is equivalent to saying that God exists necessarily. If God exists necessarily, then God actually exists. Hence, the mere possibility of the existence of God logically entails its actuality.
Einstein’s 1915 general theory of relativity, for example, was based on theoretical mathematics developed 50 years earlier by the great German mathematician Bernhard Riemann that did not have any known practical applications at the time of its intellectual creation.
In some cases the physicist also discovers the mathematics. Isaac Newton was considered among the greatest mathematicians as well as physicists of the 17th century. Other physicists sought his help in finding a mathematics that would predict the workings of the solar system. He found it in the mathematical law of gravity, based in part on his discovery of calculus.
At the time, however, many people initially resisted Newton’s conclusions because they seemed to be “occult.” How could two distant objects in the solar system be drawn toward one another, acting according to a precise mathematical law? Indeed, Newton made strenuous efforts over his lifetime to find a natural explanation, but in the end he could say only that it is the will of God.
Despite the many other enormous advances of modern physics, little has changed in this regard. As Wigner wrote, “the enormous usefulness of mathematics in the natural sciences is something bordering on the mysterious and there is no rational explanation for it.”
In other words, as I argue in my book, it takes the existence of some kind of a god to make the mathematical underpinnings of the universe comprehensible.
Math and other worlds
In 2004 the great British physicist Roger Penrose put forward a vision of a universe composed of three independently existing worlds - mathematics, the material world and human consciousness. As Penrose acknowledged, it was a complete puzzle to him how the three interacted with one another outside the ability of any scientific or other conventionally rational model.
How can physical atoms and molecules, for example, create something that exists in a separate domain that has no physical existence: human consciousness?
It is a mystery that lies beyond science.
Plato. Elizabethe
This mystery is the same one that existed in the Greek worldview of Plato, who believed that abstract ideas (above all mathematical) first existed outside any physical reality. The material world that we experience as part of our human existence is an imperfect reflection of these prior formal ideals. As the scholar of ancient Greek philosophy, Ian Mueller, writes in “Mathematics And The Divine,” the realm of such ideals is that of God.
Indeed, in 2014 the MIT physicist Max Tegmark argues in “Our Mathematical Universe” that mathematics is the fundamental world reality that drives the universe. As I would say, mathematics is operating in a god-like fashion.
The mystery of human consciousness
The workings of human consciousness are similarly miraculous. Like the laws of mathematics, consciousness has no physical presence in the world; the images and thoughts in our consciousness have no measurable dimensions.
Yet, our nonphysical thoughts somehow mysteriously guide the actions of our physical human bodies. This is no more scientifically explicable than the mysterious ability of nonphysical mathematical constructions to determine the workings of a separate physical world.
Until recently, the scientifically unfathomable quality of human consciousness inhibited the very scholarly discussion of the subject. Since the 1970s, however, it has become a leading area of inquiry among philosophers.
Recognizing that he could not reconcile his own scientific materialism with the existence of a nonphysical world of human consciousness, a leading atheist, Daniel Dennett, in 1991 took the radical step of denying that consciousness even exists.
Finding this altogether implausible, as most people do, another leading philosopher, Thomas Nagel, wrote in 2012 that, given the scientifically inexplicable - the “intractable” - character of human consciousness, “we will have to leave [scientific] materialism behind” as a complete basis for understanding the world of human existence.
As an atheist, Nagel does not offer religious belief as an alternative, but I would argue that the supernatural character of the workings of human consciousness adds grounds for raising the probability of the existence of a supernatural god.
To believe that God took time out to respond to you but not the prayers of Mothers of dying children doesn't sound much like humility to me.
God doesn’t change his mind. We should be praying for the strength and courage to carry out his will. God hears all of our prayers but if his response isn’t what we wanted, that’s our problem, not his.
@@TheFeralcatz That is not the point i'm making. This guy is claiming that thinking about ones self (pride) does not allow one to open the door to God. Yet, he also says that he asked God to personally respond to him (not, 'hey God, if you are out there can you save all the poor dying children')...and God responded to him. That would suggest focusing on ones selfish need to hear from God is the way to get Gods attention, which goes against what he claims.
That it is not humility, but pride that gets Gods attention. While most of the atheists i know do not believe they have some special relationship with God and a special place after death. Instead, they see us as nothing more than specs of dust on this tiny little dirt ball in the middle of space. I think he is mixed up about who has humility and who has special tickets on themselves.
@@falcosirrus8620 The thing about pride is that we are quick to judge other people when we see it in them, yet are often blind to our own. Praying for yourself is not selfish or a consequence of pride (usually). As I was trying to say, we as Christians pray “thy will be done.” That is not pride but a humbling of one’s self to divine providence. You could make the same argument that the mother of the sick child is being selfish by asking God to save her child’s Earthly life. True humility is realizing that we are all sick children and trying to make ourselves fit for the kingdom so that we may lead others to it as well.
@@falcosirrus8620 If there is anything that can help people who lost their children, it's that that is not all there is. I doubt your specs of dust would be very comforting to anyone. But than again, most atheists don't even have kids, that's too irrational for them.
And yes, I know that the former is not am argument, and the second one is generalization.
@@stephenson19861 I'm sure belief in a God is comforting to people and i have no problem with that. I also don't have a problem with pride, it can be a great motivator. I just find it weird that the guy in this video is telling us that giving up thinking about oneself is the path to God, but also said that he found God by thinking about himself and asking God to contact him personally and give him a sign that he personally would recognize.
I thought you were going to give us "undeniable proof of God's existence."
Yeah it was a bit clickbaty, but the video is about evidence for God, not the actual evidence
@@frankeastbrook2530 "the video is about evidence of God not the actual evidence." How can you do one without the other? The video was indeed like climbing a tree in search of a fish let alone the clickbait title.
@@grosbeak6130 I think it's more that the video talks about the IDEA of absolute proof for God, but concludes that there is none (not absolute proof, that is).
@@grosbeak6130
The end conclusion is that there is no such thing as "undeniable"
@@frankeastbrook2530 what do you mean by "actual evidence"??
As I suspected, no proof was provided, absolute or not.
Yeah, this was more of an invitation. "Come on, just try it for real"
Proof is not 100% rational facts
Love is the answer.
Go read the story of St Maximilian Kolbe.
He was in a Nazi Concentration camp
Another prisoner was gonna be killed
St Max walked up to the nazi soldier and
Said
“I would like to take his place.”
The Nazi let him, St Maximilian died in the place of another. Love is proof, not science only.
@@PInk77W1 Read 1 Peter 2:18-25 there's some love and humility
@@falsebeliever8079
Meanwhile St. Josephine Bakhita was an actual slave and converted to Roman Catholic and
Became a Saint.
@@PInk77W1 That does not absolve the bible of its endorsement of slavery.
The first couple of minutes were demonstrative of PERFECT examples of both a strawman argument and the Dunning-Kruger effect. Wether theist or atheist, I am confident most listeners/viewers will recognize this material to be riddled with fallacies as well as poorly veiled arrogance and condescension.
Admission of clickbait is an acknowledgement that he can't prove the existence of a god. Totally disingenuous.
Meh, it's really more of an admission of manipulative behavior. Normally that's whatever, who care, business sense, but because this click bait encompasses the meaning of life, love and religion, it comes off as particularly scummy. Then if you add in Christian cannon he comes off as an agent of deception/demonic/Satan shit... It's gross for sure, but an admission not so much.
@Travon Richardson At no point in this thread did anyone say "undeniable" at all, except for you. No one is demanding "undeniable proof." We are demanding any proof at all.
@@mooseitself There is plenty of proof
@@ZachColozzi Give it to me.
@@mooseitself Creation is evidence of a creator. We didn't come from nothing
Nice hair. Nice beard. Nice video quality. Nice guitars. Bad argument, unfortunately.
7:38 Oh Russell's Teapot, I might not have any good reason to believe in you, but just in case, in that slight possibility that you might be, I think I'd like to know you.
I just lost my mom at 14 and I came to these videos looking for answers. Thank you
Hope you recover good bro
Keep your head up young man God has a plan for all of us
@@colinrkd1202 so... he's just taking his sweet time?
Listen man God is with you❤️ don’t let anyone take away ur belief in God
God loves you my condolence i feel sorry for you and send u my love and support and i will pray for you and your mom Keep Strong❤💯
For those who have faith, no evidence is necessary for God's existence.
For those who have no faith, no evidence is sufficient.
Another apologist wannabe who thinks he's smarter than he actually is and telling people what atheists think instead of asking the atheist what they think. This just boils down to Brian having a personal experience that is good enough for him to believe in a god. The trouble is, a personal experience is necessarily first person; to everyone else, it's just hearsay and unconvincing. He's simply rationalizing what he knows he can't provide evidence for.
But if god shows himself you will be terrified.
@@rickhunter7443 "But if god shows himself you will be terrified."
How is this threat relevant to my comment??? What's your point? Perhaps it's just that, like so many other god-botherers, you get some kind of sick pleasure in condemning those who don't share your fantasy? Does threatening non-believers make you feel special? Some nice Christian values you have there, Rick.
But, since you brought it up, I'll respond. First of all, why do you think I'd be "terrified" if god showed up? I've been inviting god (as if he really existed) to show himself to me all my life, yet he persists in playing his silly game of hide and seek. This tells me either he doesn't want me to know he exists or that he actually doesn't exist. Either way, it's not my problem. If he wants to have a personal relationship with me, he knows where I live and can introduce himself to me whenever he wants to. But, I'm not gonna sit waiting on my doorstep for him.
If god did show himself, I would have to get to know him before I could fear or revere him. What if he wasn't the god YOU believe in? What if it turned out that he was really a nice guy. Why would I be terrified of him? If, however, he was indeed the god as depicted in the Bible, I would definitely be apprehensive but, I would still have to give him the chance to explain his horrible and contemptible behavior. Then and only then could I judge whether he deserved my respect or fear.
You seem to think that just because a god could squash me like a bug, that I should respect and fear him. Might makes right? ... Really? Allow me to explain something to you. There are three kinds of 'respect' ... First is the kind of respect one earns and deserves, such as someone of virtue who sets a good example for humanity, or a hero figure who risks their life to save someone else's life. Second, is the kind of respect that one affords a figure of authority, like a judge in a courtroom or the principal of a school. Then, there's the respect we have for things that are harmful or potentially life-threatening, like a rattlesnake or a ruthless dictator. Of the three, the two former kinds don't necessarily elicit fear, however, the latter does.
So, if the god of your fantasy is the Christian god of the Bible, and it showed itself to me, yes, I would be fearful; perhaps even terrified. After all, he's demonstrably a deplorable, despicable, reprehensible, vengeful, unjust, ego-maniacal, terrorizing, asshole who only deserves the respect I would afford a psychopathic mafia boss, and certainly not worthy of worship.
@@cyberwiz979 Dang, you hella mad, Im just speaking facts bro.
@@cyberwiz979 And im not a christian, bro.
@@rickhunter7443 Your threat contains no "fact". You have no facts to support that any god exists, and you certainly can't show any facts that describe or explain your god's nature. You're not "speaking facts", you're making blind assertions that you can't back up.
And, yes ... when people make threats, I respond negatively ... even with anger. Religious beliefs make otherwise good people say and do some awful things.That makes me angry. Religious ideas corrupt people's minds. That makes me angry. Religious doctrines isolate people into tribal mindsets. That makes me angry. I could go on regarding what makes me angry about the negative influence religions have on vulnerable, unsuspecting, trusting people.
Not a Christian, eh? The god of the Bible is as spiteful as your comment was, and is typical of what I frequently hear from Christians so, it's easy to assume Christianity. But, my bad. Not Christian, then. What vindictive god do you believe in, bro?
@6.58
Why is it you claim people who believe in god have a "sincere belief in god" and people who don't believe in god "hide behind a facade"?
Surely it's equally possible to hide behind a facade from either perspective, and to believe/not believe equally sincerely.
Not to apologists like him. One of their most common "arguments" is that god put knowledge of god into all humans, so every human knows god exists, so if you deny it you're insincere because deep down you actually know it, you just don't want to admit it because you hate god. And no i'm not being hyperbolic. I've literally had a few of those tell me that to my face. They're pulling a "Search your feelings, Luke, you know it's true" on us.
@@EskChan19
yeah i've had the "you love your sin" schtick thrown at me many times. Interesting that i don't do anything the average christian doesn't do, yet when i do it it's sin and i love it, and when they do it they're led astray and they're not to blame. What a bunch of hypocrites, the guy in the vid included.
In the early days of Brian's videos, you could quickly be reminded of how old a video was by it's lighting. Then it was based on the studio background. Now, it's based on the length of the beard.
And more or less irrationality now/then?
The God Christ Jesus made the bigbang that you atheists love so much. And the God Christ Jesus made evolution that you atheists love so much.
God has no love for those who die an atheist or agnostic. God has no love for those who die loving porn more than God. You do not understand that God is a Jealous God. God hates atheists so much and every person that loves them self to much. That God made a HELL because God hates them so much and everyone who does not love God first today forever is going to be thrown into HELL to burn for all of eternity.
You say you want to burn in Hell for all eternity but on judgment day from the God Christ Jesus. You will be begging the God Christ Jesus and crying to God not to throw you into Hell. But God will tell you it is to late. You choose to burn in Hell for all of eternity.
The God Christ Jesus is marys father. Because the God Christ Jesus made this universe before the sinner mary even existed. The sinner mary is still dead waiting to go to heaven or to hell. The sinner mary is still dead. There is no verse that says the sinner mary instantly went to heaven. Those who do get to Heaven on judgment day from the God Christ Jesus become saints for the God Christ Jesus. Not angels.
The sinner marry had sex with Joseph to have more kids. The sinner marry is no virgin.
You loving the sinner mary makes you burn in Hell forever and ever.
The catholics always talk about the sinner mary. The catholics clearly showed me that the sinner mary is there god.
The God Christ Jesus said you are to have no gods before me. Because the God Christ Jesus is a jealous God.
Christ Jesus is the way the truth and the life. No man comes to the father but by him.
You catholics don't even read the bible.
You catholics are going to burn in Hell forever and ever. Because you love the sinner mary.
If you fear, love, respect and accept the God Christ Jesus first today forever. And ask the God Christ Jesus to forgive you're sins. With love for the God Christ Jesus first today forever.
And believe the Bible today forever. Then you won't go to Hell.
You jehovas witness. You make people burn in hell! for all of eternity!. You jehovas witness book is a ripoff. Read the original book. The original Book. Says Hell is forever. Says the fire in Hell is never turned down. And says they that did not love the God Christ Jesus first today forever and those who did not love the God Jesus first today forever are all thrown into Hell to burn for all of eternity.
Because they did not love the God Christ Jesus first today forever. Most people burn in hell for all of eternity.
You jehovah's witness you all burn in hell forever and ever. Because you did not love the God Christ Jesus first today forever.
You jews religion is false. Even God hates most jews and muslims. Because jews and muslims both false religion of being a good person makes you go to heaven. Only loving the God Christ Jesus first today forever makes you go to heaven. And not everyone loves the God Christ Jesus first today forever. Meaning God/Christ Jesus throws most people into Hell to burn for all of eternity. With the demons to torment them in Hell forever.
There is no verse that says the orthodox who die instantly go to Heaven.
You mormons. Of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
There is only one God. A God is not going to make gods. Dumb mormons. There is no sex in Heaven. You dumb horny mormons. There is no sex in Heaven. You mormons are going to burn in Hell forever and ever. And you will have no rest.
The koran says adam is 90 feet tall. The koran is very fake. The muslims believe they came from a 90 feet tall adam.
The koran is fake.
The koran says muhhamed is a pedophilla.
The muslims love the pedophila muhhamed. The muslims love pedophilas. The muslims kiss a stone the Islam religion is very fake. muhhamed is a fake prophet.
The koran says muhhamed is a sex freak and says muhhamed is a pedophila.
Because muhammad is a fake prophet.
GOD is going to throw the sex freak muhhamed into HELL TO BURN FOREVER and ever.
And you muslims BURN in HELL forever for loving the pedophila muhhamed.
You muslims BURN IN HELL Forever.
There is no sex in Heaven you perverted muslims.
In islam they believe in their moon god allah They don't even know the name of their god its the title of their god.
the koran says muhhamed sucked on the tongues of young boys. And that this pedpphila and sex freak muhhamed beat women in the koran.
THIS SEX FREAK
muhhamed BURNS IN HELL FOREVER.
The koran says allah is the greatest deceiver It sounds like the devil.
When a Ugly immortal demon gives a living human memories of a dead person. The stupid human thinks i have memories of a dead person. It must be my past life. Wrong.
A ugly immortal demon gave you those memories because the immortal demon wants to make the stupid human burn in Hell for all of eternity.
And it works the ugly immortal demon is very successful in this method. You dumb hinduism. And you dumb buddhists.
And then y'all burn in Hell forever for not believing the Bible today forever.
There is only one God and there are no gods beside him. Love God first today forever. The God Christ Jesus is the Creator of the universe. Love the God Christ Jesus first today forever and you will be saved. Blessed is the one who has not seen and believes in God. And God throws atheists into Hell to burn forever. Because they did not love God first.
Love the God Christ Jesus first today forever. Or the God Christ throws you into hell to burn forever and ever. With the demons to torment you in hell forever.
And the bible haters BURN IN HELL Forever.
And the atheists, agnostics
and sorcerers Burn In HELL FOREVER.
Because you did not love God/Christ first today forever.
God allowed demons to be born. Demons are from the creation of God. And the God Christ Jesus makes the demons work in Hell to torment and hurt you atheists and agnostics in Hell forever and ever in Hell. You atheists are going to grind and knash you're teeth in hell forever. After a thousand years of burning in Hell. It is only the beginning.
Everybody knows who God is on judgment day from God. The name of God is known. On judgment day from God. You will see that God has 1 hole in his left and right hand. And 1 hole in his right and left foot. Because God let himself be put on cross to show you that there is no greater love than him. Love God first and love Christ Jesus first today forever. Because Christ Jesus was God in the flesh with the holy spirit God is 3 in one. Love God first today forever so you don't burn in hell forever and ever. And Love God first today forever so you aren't tormented by Huge Demons in hell forever.
Only the God name Christ Jesus hurts demons.
And the God names of Christ Jesus in the Bible hurts demons.
And the bible haters BURN IN HELL Forever.
And the atheists, agnostics
and sorcerers BURN IN HELL Forever. .
@@godchristmadethebigbangand4721 You are a radical, alright. Telling people things without backing them up, just saying them and expecting people to believe... the Bible says that God loves everyone, and tries to help them. So you are saying that if someone begins believing in God after not ever even knowing about him, God suddenly just then starts loving him? And how do you know Mary wasn't a virgin? You are just believing what you WANT to believe, not what is actually said. Perhaps you will be surprised when YOU at the gates of heaven.
@@godchristmadethebigbangand4721 Your username reflects on your arrogance. You are saying God made the big bang and evolution to be accepted, not because you believe in those things or because you care. You just care about acceptance, not about truth. Wake up delusional fool.
atheism and agnosticism
Has ZERO ZERO EVIDENCE.
And you believe it with
ZERO ZERO ZERO EVIDENCE.
So it takes over 7 minutes to get to the argument. Its the beloved argument from personal incredulity.
Its been over 5,000 years and theists have never found any irrefutable evidence for any god.
I'm not a christian, but I feel like you missed the point of the video. The entire video was essentially an argument for why we shouldn't look for irrefutable evidence (which I disagree with).
@@ivanhagstrom5601 that would miss the argument that there not only is no irrefutable evidence but no evidence at all. haven't finished the video yet, but it seems really dumb
@@Setep2k Agreed
What makes you think you would believe in God even if there was irrefutable evidence? People tend to deny the truth.
@@user-in5ru2cd9l the quality of being a rational person and having formed my views based on reality. I've done it before on other subject, I would do so again if there was a good reason, which there isn't.
Undeniable proof of a clickbait title.
This is your argument? That we make decisions influenced by emotions, so we shoud accept a lower standard of evidence for putatively the most important question for humans? Your argument is one of the worst I've heard.
Metaphysics exists irrespective of your beliefs, our articulations are different but none of it is scientific, so I'm not sure what higher "evidence" you're asking for. Go ahead and try to live a life without any metaphysical beliefs lol.
@@bradspitt3896 Brilliant reply.
@Mark Aguilera It doesn't, it just means that Theism and atheism exist in the same verifiable realm of metaphysics. Unscientific.
@@bradspitt3896 Atheism doesn't mean you are saying God doesn't exist. It means you have not been convinced that he exists. Provide real evidence that is convincing and there would be no atheism (this is not the same as saying there would be no atheists since any individual might believe anything). Believe in a spaghetti monster, Odin, Yahweh, etc., but don't say you have proof unless you do.
@@stephenborte5004 Well epoché is another thing, agnosticism is closer to what you are saying.
Science can't tell you metaphysical things, that's the whole point of my first comment. You don't know what you're asking for, you have no evidence for the self, free will, identity, ethics (other than what's consensual) yet you believe these things. God exists in the same verifiable realm.
And I'm not an evangelist, my purpose in life isn't to "provide evidence." I would hope yours isn't either.
Actually, atheists don't ask for a "perfect " argument, merely a plausible one
If you want to hold on to that view, you should probably not read the comments on this video.
@@BrianHoldsworth
You ignored his point and only underpinned the follies of christian apologetics.
Hi Bryan, I'm an atheist who has actually improved my life after becoming such. I'm no longer suicidal or questioning my own value. God is the reason I spent years questioning my own value by ignoring my prayers for years. Not prayers for him to reveal himself, no, not something so shallow as that. I prayed to be saved from a severely abusive home life that left me begging god to end my life before I was even 10 years old. I prayed for comfort, guidance, the will to keep going and ignore the suffering, and nothing came at all.
Why should I care at all about a god, if it exists, that would answer your prayer and not the prayers of a terrified child?
Some christians will tell you that you're now better off because now that you're gone, god wants you to come back to him, like an abusive ex who only starts acting nice once you packed up your stuff.
@@EskChan19 yeah, most Christians say I'm just being a child blaming god for my unfortunate childhood.
Bold of you for not turning off the comments.
Bold? or...
@@j-joe-jeans stupid. probably
@@randomboi5237 Ha
Christians quote a book. A book that’s been rewritten over and over. When asked why they believe the message in it after it’s been rewritten so many times.....Christians quote a book...🤦🏻♂️ Christians tell us Jesus came to save us from our sins. When asked why god chose to put us into sin as he’s god and he could of chose not to therefor saving his son from torture and pain. Christians tell us Jesus came to save us from our sins...🤦🏻♂️ it just keeps going round and round.
That's my dilemma. Though from my knowledge, (it may be incorrect) we are born into sin because Eve chose to eat the fruit and they were kicked out of Eden.
@@dylnfstr it was gods decision to kick them out. It was also gods decision to to put the tree there. He also didn’t stop the....wait for it....talking snake. All this and remember he knew all along what was going to happen. Why would he want to put Jesus through torture and suffering when could of either stopped what was going on or saved us from our sins another way that didn’t include torturing and executing Jesus! The story makes no sense. Muslims openly laugh at the story because it’s so ridiculous and atheists like me just wonder why anyone would believe it?
@@999everlong He put the tree there to give us a choice. We can freely chose if we want to love and worship God or not. Without that choice sin wouldnt exist but love wouldnt exist also. We would just be robots without free will.
@@nikolai5058 but he already knew what the outcome would be so why do it in the first place? Even what you say is true (which I still find absurd) why would you want to sacrifice your son? When your god and you can do anything you like? If you wanted to rid me of my sin and you have the power to it in any way you like because your the all knowing creator of everything that’s makes the rules for everything. Would you choose to torture your son?? 😂 I hope the answer is no Kolja. Because opting to do that when you can do anything, because again you are the all powerful all knowing creator is disgusting!! He could have appeared in person and then nobody would have had any doubt of his existence gave us a telling off! or snapped his fingers, spanked us, taken away our toys or sat us in the corner!! Human sacrifice was very common thousands of years ago but do we do it now? No we don’t why?...because it’s disgusting that’s why and we a morally above that! It’s a shame god wasn’t! He wasn’t above asking Abraham to sacrifice his son either! Not a very nice god really. The bibles core story doesn’t make any sense and if Jesus was the son of god I feel sorry for him because his dad was a maniac willing to torture him!!! That’s child abuse!
@@999everlong so should God have made a world where good and bad doesnt exist and everybody is just a robot without free will? I dont know about you Ryan but to me this sounds worse than our current situation. And why did Jesus have to die? Firstly God is just. While it is true that God is almighty he still cant do something which contradicts his nature. Somebody had to be punished. So he came into the world and took all our sins upon himself. Secondly salvation has to be something which we humans can freely chose. If he would just force everybody into heaven we wouldnt have free will.
Why did this video say that he has proof and then give us a conspiracy theory?
Just browsing the comments quickly and it seems a lot of people completely missed the point of the video. He was basically denouncing the whole idea that we make most of our decisions/form most of our beliefs based on whether or not we have undeniable proof.
The point of this video was not to provide undeniable proof. The title was a little bit of tongue-in-cheek.
But we don’t go through life demanding _undeniable_ proof for everything, we go through life looking for reasonable and sufficient proof depending on the claim.
If you told me you have a pet dog, I’ll most likely just take your word for it even despite me not knowing you; because it’s a mundane claim. I know people sometimes have pet dogs and it’s a commonplace thing... maybe you’re lying and maybe you’re not, but I don’t consider it a problem to simply trust you when it comes to something like that.
Now on the other hand, if you were to claim that you had a 30ft tall, fire breathing pet dragon, that would take a bit more than faith on my part to be convinced.
@@shelbyvillerules9962 Both of those claims would still need the same amount of evidence.
@@gabenorman747 It's you to choose. If the friend he is talking about showed me a video of his dog, i would certainly trust him, because i already know lot of peoples have dogs, that it is common.
But if he shows me a video where he's riding a dragon, the first thing that will come to my mind is a fake video, because i've never seen a dragon, but i've seen fakes video of dragons.
@@chanseyinthehood8415 We have plenty of evidence for god though so the dragon comparison is dumb and incorrect.
@@gabenorman747 no you don't - no evidence at all, that's a dumb thing to say (I use your word because I'm assuming you'll understand what I mean). This video is dishonest.
I feel God all Around me everyday of my life. It's so strong his presence. Some people will think I'm crazy but God is everywhere around me. I know he is real.
If you think God is real you really are crazy!
You are delusional!
Your intellect has been harmed by brainwashing in your childhood!
So sad!
What separates the mad man from the sane man is objective and independent verification of their claims.
Where is your objective and independent verification?
Dumbo
@@legion1a What about people who were atheists all their life and think the same as this man? Serious question. Not everyone has been indoctrinated as a child although I agree that is the truth for many people.
@@outsidechambaz
There is no debate.
God is not real.
If anyone thinks that God is real, their intellect has been tragically damaged.
They have no intellectual value, and they're not worth talking to!
Nothing that they think, say or believe has any value.
Brian, would you accuse an atheist like the late Carl Sagan, a gentle man, loving husband and father, life-long advocate for scientific education, open-mindedness, and a sense of wonder inclusive of what may be called 'spiritual,' of being too prideful? I'm curious as to how you would handle that question.
I don't need undeniable proof... I KNOW in my heart and I love Him with all my heart, mind, and soul
Brainwashed
If god exist then why is there a elephant in a zoo
God: gives 2 year old cancer 😎
Christians: gods plan 🥰🥰🥰🥺🥺🤞🤞🤞
@@pollishion8394 go back to school lmao
@@sandyjpegz God doesn’t give kids cancer. It’s literally inevitable because of sin. No Christian would even say that’s “gods plan”. Cmon really 🙄
No, just any evidence, anything other than a book
Exactly, like I know it is “holy” etc but it’s a fking book.
Why is the book not good enough if you haven't done the research on it?
@@quenchnotthespirit7 because I have done research on it and I won’t change my beliefs because a piece of paper in a book tells me to.
@@crliewtsn I don't agree with your decision but I can show you respect.
@@quenchnotthespirit7 yes, I am not trying to sound rude but thank you and I will respect you aswell.
I said "God if you're out there can you reveal yourself to me in a way that I will understand and be able to appreciate" and surprisingly got no answer. So I guess I can use my personal experience as undeniable proof that there is no God ;)
I've tried the same thing - several times, and in multiple ways because if it is true that there is a god you can bet your boots I want to know about it - who wants to go through their whole life ignorant of such an amazing and important fact. But so far, nothing.
My only conclusions can be that 1: there isn't a god to somehow reveal itself to me regardless of the sincerity of my request or 2: there is a god that could reveal itself to me but it chooses not to, at least - not yet - regardless of the sincerity of my request. I can't see what other rational, logical conclusion there is to be drawn nomatter what my emotions might have to say about either option.
If someone says "Let go of the apple and it will fall up - just try it, even if you want don't want to let go of the apple because you don't want to risk finding out you're wrong," and then you take the dare and let go of the apple and it falls down what do you say to yourself? How many times do you keep letting go of the apple?
I'm at the stage now where someone has to give me a compelling reason to just let go of the apple because one life I can be sure of is this one and I don't want to waste it all smashing and bruising applies. I listened to this video because I was willing to spend a few minutes finding out if there really was some undeniable proof of a god's existence. I smashed another apple.
^ God won’t respond to two blasphemous hearts.
@@SuperrBoyful I'm afraid he won't respond to non-blasphemous heart either nor any other 'heart'
Qwerty I’m afraid you don’t have a genuine desire in your heart to know God..probably too in love with your sin, so why would He reveal himself to you if your mind and heart are full of sin?
@@meganmills6545 this is your answer. God loves you if you accept Jesus Christ and let him into your heart you will find him. That’s the missing price Jesus
“Love proteins” lmaoooo I’m dead 😂
What is funny here ? ^^
@Kevin Cobb Aaaaaaaah thank you very much Kevin ! That was well explained.
Have a nice day :)
@Kevin Cobb I think it funny that you assert love is more than chemicals but have no manner in which to demonstrate it.
@Kevin Cobb Love is a choice, not a chemical, nor a chemically induced feeling. A chemically induced feeling may or may not accompany love sometimes, but love is not dependent upon a "protein".
@Kevin Cobb
So imagine imaginary ideas. And then?
What people ask for regarding evidence for god(s) is not any more than what we demand from our sciences.
... I'm sorry but, I'm not even a minute into this video and you have already shown yourself to be dishonest... so that's it, we're done.
If you are interested in logical fallacies, I have a nice assignment for you: find the 64 fallacies in this video and name them!
Just make it a drinking game, I'm lookin to black out
@@mooseitself 🤣
Only 64?
I agree that no one is completely rational when they choose if believe if there is a God or not, however I still think the logical arguments are important. We put together our own worldview through the lens of reason, so it's important to have something that makes sense in order to fit that with the remaining of our own worldview.
The effect of relegating all the spirituality to an emotional and completely subjective realm have had a terrible effect in how people perceive the religions (only as dump emotional/manipulative discourses). The intellectual side of faith is very important.
Amen
This is precisely the Catholic position: Fides et Ratio. I imagine it like a relationship with your spouse (which coincidentally reflects our relationship with God).
A relationship built solely on reason leaves no room for faith and is shallow and incomplete. You can reason a lot about your spouse by observing them and making objective deductions and conclusions, but what you are left with is just an assortment of surface-level facts that on their own won’t get you far in a relationship. If you insist with your partner that you will only go on what you can absolutely know about them through analytical reason, you will know very little about them, and you will love very little of them, because you are in utter control of the process by which you know and love them.
A relationship solely built on faith is easily prone to gullibility and superstition. Your spouse could cheat on you or lie to you and you wouldn’t know it, or you could believe things about them that are not true, because you are blinded by a false trust. Such a relationship is often abusive, has poor foundation, and clearly is bad for you.
Real relationship has both an element of reason and a trust for that which the other has revealed about themself of their own freedom. This is one way to understand our relationship with God.
Belief is not a choice in any real regard. Did you choose to believe gravity is real? When did you choose to believe you are alive? Can you choose to think you can fly using your arms?
Only those people who have logical warrant to support their beliefs are being rational.
Making sense of the world is not as important as having a reconciliation between our beliefs and reality.
How do I know God is real? @t
Hello. .
More people deconvert than convert. Most people who say "God, where are you?" do not get an answer. And many people who do get answers have tricked their own mind into giving one. People of all belief systems have experiences. That doesn't mean yours isn't real, but it doesn't count for much without further evidence.
Evidence of what? You can't put God in a test tube... God is not carbon based life, like the people reading this comment. Science doesn't even know what happened before the big bang and Thats 100% a fact. It's all speculation/ faith literally ..Some are saying ohh another universe created our universe. The theories just as insane as the God theory. Your possibility is more believeable yet it cant be proven? Sounds like faith is in the science community to me. Science is for the physical & natural world. Not the supernatural.... No cutting corners with God, it is Faith Alone... Thousands of correlating testimonys. These peoples body may still be pumping and working due to modern science but that doesn't mean their soul hasn't left the body. "Soul doesnt exist" give me the documents and test also names of those who funded that test ... Oh wait there is none because satanist literally are on board. Their job is to deceive and make you belive there is not a God... All creation in the universe just apperead with no creator... Sure.... Big bang just happened by itself. Sure. Nothing exploded into infinity. Maybe with gods snap of the finger since he is the real magician.... And yes satanist do exist. Don't turn a blind eye to what is there and the rituals they do, with a predetermined zero research bias answer. Good luck
@@olebilly How convenient...
@@olebilly - No offense, I promise, but what qualifies you to make that claim?
@@olebilly god doesn't apply to science? funny, because science applies to everything in existence. which then means that god is not part of existence, he doesn't exist.
The study of science itself is study for the physical and natural world... NOT the supernatural. You may want to check the definition of science. Then check the meaning of supernatural. There is no tool to measure the supernatural existence because it is not carbon based.
I say with no emotion, that the creator of this content does not understand skepticism.
Using Peter McKinnon settings. Nice play.
Doesn't make your argument any less empty.
Hello. .
I hope you see this comment because I question Gods existence. I am currently 18 and I grew up in a very Christian household. Both sides of my family are Christian, yet I unfortunately am not. I remember loving to go to church and even did the plays when I was younger. But randomly one day it switched. I recently tried to reconnect with him after finding a girl that was a strong believer. I started reading the Bible again and was praying every night. But I felt no connection and even found a girlfriend who helped me try and find God again. She just broke up with me after a few months because she couldn’t fully convert me, but that’s not the point of this. I understand that God works in his own ways. But lately I just haven’t felt anything. Do you have any recommendations to help me find God again.
Going through it right now believed him my whole life then logic and science hit in one day making me wonder what happens after death started searching up where bible came from if miracles can be proven how historically acurate is bible is there proof of god and the only proof i found is being proficied at church in prayer it seems like we can only believe in god and only way well find proof is not in logic or science but he wants us to find him by searching for him, u and i are both searching for god hope well find him cause i need him to exist and only thing that gives me some kind of sense of his existence is the guy who prayed for us it was an undeniable fact it was unlogical or scientific brain isnt capable of seeing future or knowing things in someone without knowing those things prayer is spiritual no science or logic can explain why things happen through prayer i think atheist dont believe in god cause they arnt looking and use science and logic and dont pray to find out or get prayed for go to church and get prayed for every week until something happens
Hey bro, hope I can help out. What exactly is the issue you’re having - is it that you doubt God’s existence or you’re struggling in your relationship with God? To answer the question you ended with, my first suggestion would be to begin by finding what exactly it is that’s hindering your faith and whether your stumbling block is intellectual or emotional. Is there something in particular that is deterring you from God?
@@anthonygrasso6224 Hey bro 👋🏾 it sounds like the problem you’re having with your faith here is an intellectual one. If you’re looking for rational reasons to believe in God’s existence, I would look at TH-cam channels Cross Examined, Reasonable Faith & Whaddo You Meme which all provide explanations to show why theism is not based off blind faith but is rather logical and follows the evidence. So I would disagree with you, there are definitely logical arguments (some involving scientific evidence) like the cosmological, teleological, moral and ontological arguments for God’s existence (I would suggest researching these on TH-cam). Aside from just knowing of Gods existence, it’s important to develop a relationship with him though so please seek him earnestly in prayer and find time to read His Word regularly.I would also propose you watch debates so you can hear conversations without bias.
I am a dyed-in-the-wool atheist but one thing that would make me think twice about the existance of god would be if all children in the world, below the age of 5, with cancer were suddenly completely cured. However, this happening could still be the result of benevolent extra-terrestrials who were a million years more advanced than we are.
Or Science.
Same here. I was born with severe mental illness, and if God took that away, I’d consider Christianity again.
The church takes in 30 Billion a year and there are starving children. Makes me sick.
Pretty sure that is a low estimate, I have seen estimates ranging from 80 Billion to 150 Billion but still I agree with the sentiment.
@HARRY SHANNON You simply cannot compare biological organisms with a vehicle. Talk about apple's to oranges. Show me a car being born then we will talk.
@HARRY SHANNON You can't even follow basic instructions. Show me a car being born and we will talk.
That's because you don't know what's done with the money and actually many churches donate to people and give away free food 1-3 times a week and some even will help people find jobs and a shelter. Maybe you should look at who our current president is, he's the one with millions or even billions, starving children, he has the money to fix world hunger and is he? No, just a little stimulus that he knows people will run through in a month or two.
Some churches are run by selfish pastors and that's on them but not every church
Let’s assume god is real, how do you prove that your god is the one who is real?
Historical evidence is the way to find which one is true.
@@skerion7956 historical evidence meaning what? Claims from ancient people saying that their god(s) are real? Which one is more believable, the oldest account? the most written about? the most good or the most bad? the one who seems to have done more or fewer miracles? That is a bit vague and where is/are the god(s) now? Have they just went on a (pun intended) holiday? Are they out of magic juju, so no more miracles or public appearances? Do they just not care anymore? Or if you follow Occam's razor, maybe they just weren't any in the first place, and primitive people added divinity and mysticism where they couldn't find explications and reason in the natural world. Either way belief or lack of shouldn't be a dividing factor amongst humanity. Diversity should be our greatest strength and instead it puts us at each other's throats.
I don't see how the "people apeal to emotion" argument is relative here. Making decisions because something makes you feel good is not necessarily irrational but believing in something just because it makes you feel good is. Buying a BMW will make you feel good, it's not as practical or economical as a honda but still you can rationalize and pick between two objects that are proven to exist... You can believe that she loves you because you have proof that she exists and you can prove that love happens on a chemical level inside her brain (dopamine + norepinephrine), her words just convey this in a simple manner. How do you not see the difference in those cases compared to "i don't support Trump because i don't like him. He has good policies but I don't like him" or "Yeah I don't understand the world therefore god exists, believing just makes me feel good." Atheists do not claim that they are perfectly rational, but in order to rationalize something it has to be subject to rationalization, a belief in something that can't be proven does not fall in that category. So humans being emotional doesn't give you an excuse to believe in something that isn't reasonable.
one might go one step further and simply argument that emotions are a product of evolution and therefore must have some rational purpose, the most obvious being that an emotional choice is a very quick one and that emotional instincts are trimmed for survival
I think what he is trying to say is if we are just a cosmic anomaly, then why do we even have emotions, why would they even matter, the fact that we have emotions and can make rational decisions points to someone who created us, lets say for arguments sake we are void of emotions but we still exist, wouldnt that point to us being created still, how can something come from nothing, it isn't possible.
@@johnewald5480 It's not an anomaly and we are not special... Other animals have emotions and reason to some degree so what point are you making? Everything has a relative meaning. Only other humans care about you're emotions and thoughts because they can relate. The truth is you don't know if something can come out of nothing, because that begs the question where did god come from, who created him? And if you say "ohh this is different god does not manifest through matter" then you contradict yourself and even if that wasn't the case this is still a bad argument because it literally applies to everything you can think of... E.g "the tooth fairy created the world because something can't come out of nothing" or the flying spaghetti monster etc. etc.
@@johnewald5480 lol so what you are saying is that independent of whether emotions exist or not you think we are created, for the dumb reason that something can't come from nothing.
but that is a retarded argument that doesn't hold up to logic. where would your creator come from if something can't come from nothing? you haven't thought this through, and if you now make a special case for your creator then you basically contradict yourself again.
Never wanted extraordinary evidence - just ANY evidence. I have never heard of a reasonable argument for god yet. Will wait .....
Any rational argument will do
Having proof of God isn’t how he wants you to believe in him, God wants you to believe in him even though you have never seen him or felt him.
Read Thomas Aquinas, Edward Feser or Peter Kreeft, that should do it.
@@FFunez have read those - been debunked by many since ,and arguments are not evidence
@@rayriches1000 you are the only one here who implies that evidence is equal to argumentation, as you go from asking for evidence to waiting for argument. I would also be interested to know what you've actually read about any of those theologians, quiz you on how much you've understood, then find out how exactly these have been debunked as you say, and by who. But we don't have time for that here. So happy new year and good day to ya Ray.
Been asking for a valid & sound argument or evidence or tests - nothing so far.
I can't stop laughing long enough at the intellectual dishonesty if this video to rule much more ...
You think a god created you for an specific purpose and you call that the humble position?
I love the unbelievers/atheists who spend hours on Christian TH-cam comments sections, I really do love you guys! I've actually become friends with some of these guys over the years, I don't recognize anyone here...... yet
Have you every tried listening to them with an open mind?
@@sulas548 seems like he/she did, saw a previous response under a comment, very chill
@@gabrieleambruosi8953 Good to hear. I enjoy having civil and polite conversations with people of faith as I like to investigate how they come to hold the beliefs that they do.
You should not LIE about having undeniable proof.
@@Lavenderlove-y6u If God were real you wouldn't need to tell us that it is real. Your God is indistinguishable from one that solely exists in your head. Take your time to think about that.
@@Lavenderlove-y6u I suggested to think about my statement, which has nothing to do with hating on this video? Why do you need to make statements like "God is real" if he is actually real? You don't have people saying "gravity is real" over and over again. As I said, take your time to think about this and who are you trying to convince with such a statement.
@@Lavenderlove-y6u Come on, you don't need to get condescending, like I don't know what religion is and need to learn it. That's dishonest and a desperate attempt when you get defensive. Obviously you don't seem to get my point. I didn't compare gravity with religion directly but the behaviour of people and things that we know are real. Gravity was just an example, you could replace it with other things and it would still be the same point. A statement in this context is just a single assertion.
@@Lavenderlove-y6u Yeah, intellectually lazy, too. ;) Have a nice day.
@@Lavenderlove-y6u
" and what statement? I said god is real how is that a statement and also comparing gravity and religion doesn’t even make sense"
- It is a claim to knowledge... an assertion, an assertion you cannot demonstrate is true.
- Gravity is demonstrable, testable and verifiable, a god is not so you are correct they are not comparable.
Nothing in this video is proof that God exists. I didn't need to watch this video to know that people are ignorant, irrational and have bias. Just because some people bought a car based on emotions isn't proof that God exists. He's basically just making a bunch of excuses why he hasn't been able to present any proof and then goes on to make more unproven claims about the existence and nature of his version of God. Again, there's not one shred of proof in this video.
Agreed. Makes no sense. Where are these sound arguments he talks about?
I mean... the “god will show himself to me in a way i will understand” theory doesn’t really make sense... i’ll attempt to explain my thoughts.
The issue I have is that by looking for such a clue, it’s a one way street. You may think, “hmm, if I meet the love of my life today, that will surely prove God’s existence.” And when you don’t meet her, no biggie, that doesn’t disprove God. However, life goes on, it is *inevitable* that you will find a scenario that you can interpret as God reaching out to you. Even if 1000 times a miracle didn’t happen, you can point to that one time as evidence of God.
An additional issue I have is that these events are not repeatable. You cannot control when such events happen, so how do you know the difference between an intelligent being causing something versus random chance? How much is cognitive bias?
I’d like to share a little story. When I was young, my mom told me she saw her favorite number, 57, everywhere she went. From that point on, I was noticing 57 everywhere!! On addresses, math problems, you name it. One day, I told my dad about this, and he asked “how many numbers do you see in a day? Maybe it’s the fact that you’re looking for 57 that you see it everywhere.” So i picked another number, and whaddya know, i began seeing that one everywhere too.
My point is, we humans are flawed. I think it’s way more likely that our cognitive bias tells us some godlike figure is pulling strings and has a purpose for everything. Like how can you possibly justify the holocaust (sorry for bringing this up, but I think it’s a valid point to consider.)
This brings me to my final conclusion: we don’t know. No one has proved God, but no one has disproved him either. Why is everyone so eager to jump to conclusions when we have no evidence? Like you said: humility is important, and sometimes humility means putting your pride aside and admitting your ignorance.
My name is Jason too. Perfect argument
@@itsjason6912 haha fellow Jasons unite
I have made that argument many times and you are absolutely correct. If God is all powerful and all knowing, God wouldn’t need to play games with us to the point where people need to create thousands of religions and make fantastical ideas. This guy is just making up stuff.
O no! - people have denied the 'undeniable proof'.
And some weird people really do choose a car or a breakfast based on a completely rational decision.
where the undeniable proof at
@@rickross9829 That's the point I was making; the most evident proof can still be denied.
The perception and appreciation of truth, depends less upon the mind than upon the heart. Truth must be received into the soul; it claims the homage of the will. If truth could be submitted to the reason alone, pride would be no hindrance in the way of its reception.
Hello. .
So Ginger Jesus here with an all-powerful and all-knowing deity behind him has a problem when other people have a high standard of evidence for extra-ordinary claims?
On the question "do I believe in God?", my response is: Define God. Because I don't believe in fictional characters in general.
Do I believe there is or was a creator? Unless the universe is infinite in time, then yes. Something must have started it. That something is the Creator.
Do I believe in some loving character in the sky? No. I think we people want to believe in such things only to comfort ourselves. Because I see similarities in all living beings, and I happen to think that animals are almost as conscious and sentient as we are. And yet we kill them and eat them. That's not love. That's just the way it is, because we need to eat.
Oh... It's only us humans who matter in God's eyes. Isn't that pretty egocentric of us to think? Why would we be the center of the Universe, on this tiny speck of a planet?
It doesn't matter which way I look at it, a Christian God doesn't make any sense other than as a pacifier.
I am god, i do not need to provide evidence. You have to prove that i'm not god. Example of your logic in a nutshell
Not even remotely relevant to anything I said or would ever say which begs the question - what does it tell you about your philosophical commitments that you have to resort to such absolutely barefaced strawman treatments of a theistic argument to feel more confident about your position?
@@BrianHoldsworth Evidence would be very welcome as an argument is just a word construct. So the claim is a non material being created matter. So show and prove how this being creates matter out of nothing. Any publication in a peer reviewed journal of science like physics will do. This would be actual evidence.
It is extremely arrogant to claim that god exists and that he is a christian god with 100% certainty. We haven't proven god exists. However, we can prove with 100% certainty that people have the ability to create stories, have the innate desire to explain the existence of themselves and the world, and are capable of believing in things that are false even when the proof is undeniable. This doesn't prove that god doesn't exist or that the Bible is untrue, but it does prove that it is very possible the Bible could have been written without the help of god. Ask yourself which is more likely... that god exists, that he is a christian god, and that the Bible is the exact word of this god? Or that man created god, made him a christian god, and put words in his mouth? There is no evidence to prove the former, but there is a mountain of evidence to prove that the latter is possible. Not that it's true, but that it's possible. This has been true for thousands of years, this is true now, and will continue to be true for the rest of human existence. The possibility of god is also true, but so far there is no evidence to support that possibility other than one's ability to believe, but as we should all know, just because you believe in something doesn't make it so. We are constantly proving that we are capable of creating stories, making up explanations for things we cannot fully explain, and believing in misinformation even when the evidence is undeniable. It is far better to humbly say "I don't know and therefore I don't believe" than it is to arrogantly claim that "god exists with absolutely certainty, that he is a christian god, and if you don't believe in him you are going to burn in hell for eternity." Stay humble.
Nicely said.
But... there is no "possibility for a god" in any epistemological manner, only hypothetical but that includes "possibility" for Leprechauns, Pixies and Magic etc too.
I was driven to faith by rational investigation. I first found out that science had absolutely no evidence for naturalism so I wondered about God and found science has absolutely no evidence against God.
Later my wife became religious and I realised I had to make a decision as I had kids and I didn't want to lie to them or have no position on this new issue. So I studied a number of religions knowing enough to realise only one could possibly be true. Science helped, but history, archaeology and philosophy were key too. I looked at the tenets of each belief including atheism and looked at the main arguments for and against. I whittled them down to the Abrahamic Faiths, and as I studied the Quran and the true interpretation via the Hadiths I proved it false from a multitude of reasons. Judaism was harder as there was no defining belief and then it went off on an unsubstantiated tangent with rabbinical Judaism after the destruction of the Temple in 70AD.
It was Christianity alone that kept neck and neck with atheism, plenty of times I ended the day thinking - 'well if that is true I can't be a Christian' before finding what the Christian belief truly was or what the true meaning in Hebrew or Greek was and realising my interpretation based on the English translation was false.
From philosophy I found Christianity made more sense than any current form of atheist thinking which is highly varied, from history and archaeological evidence wherever there was proof one way or another it always was in line with the Bible and didn't contradict. I went down multiple rabbit holes including Exodus where there is no direct evidence either way but plenty of indirect evidence that correlates with the Exodus and Joseph (Genesis) that can not be explained rationally without the biblical context.
This still wasn't sufficient proof, and then I really looked at the crucifixion and realised that all the strange inconsistencies actually made perfect sense when biewed from modern medical science, so I finally looked at the resurrection and found that there is no valid argument against the resurrection and that all the evidence when taken in context could only mean it actually happened. When the truth of this hit me, I realised all the other issues such as walking on water, etc. became completely inconsequential as the resurrection is the biggest 'miracle' within the whole Bible.
Jonah, Adam and Eve, as well as Noah still give me pause for thought but given that Genesis 1 fits the 5 billion year history of Earth (in Hebrew) and that Genesis is poetic I realised that the literal translation is an allegorical story in which the actual truth is embedded.
That sounds like a fun journey, welcome home. Small thing, the Catholic Church has said that Adam and Eve were real people (concerning the doctrine of original sin) and professes monogenism, but that this can still be reconcilable with evolution theory as a means to explain the origin of the human form, but not the soul. Genesis is obviously quite allegorical and much of it is not intended literally, but this is where the good old “both and” in Catholic theology applies.
@@killianmiller6107 I believe in evolution, but am fully open to God having given Adam and Eve symbolism so that man would be made in the image of God. Symbolism is unique to humans and this would be the gift from God. BTW I'm not Catholic although I like much of Catholicism.
Science cannot disprove god, religion cannot prove it.
“What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”
There is no proof of a god. Can there be a god? Yes. It’s possible. Anything is possible. Any theory is possible because none have been proven. There is no evidence saying there is, though.
I have an analogy: It’s like a jar filled with M&M’s. I count how many I put it, then have a group of 10 people estimate how many are inside. Before I tell them the number, they all have a chance of being correct. It’s because the answer hasn’t been revealed, therefore we don’t know who is right.
Now, let’s place a question inside of the jar. I tell everyone what the question is, but they guess the answer to the question inside. The question is “How was this universe formed?” Now I ask everyone to tell me what they think. At the end of this they ask me to reveal it. I say,”this question has not actually been answered or proven yet.” This leaves every guess as a possible answer. It’s like the M&M example. Anyone’s answer has the chance of being correct until I reveal the amount. With the question in a jar example, we don’t actually have the answer. This leaves every theory a possible answer.
There’s no proof of a god, that is why atheism exists. It’s because there is no actual proof and people don’t find it easy to say,”I believe in it” with no reason to. With no evidence saying to do so. If there was evidence, I don’t think anyone would deny it. There’ll be those few people who still call BS, but most would go,”thanks for proving it. I will no longer ask for evidence.”
I am an atheist due to the lack of evidence. I have argued with religious people over the years and i’ve learned what you guys think “proof” is. Please do not throw unanswered questions at me like,”Well why else would this universe be so perfectly set up?” I don’t know. The answer to unanswered questions is not “god”, it’s unanswered, so don’t assume. Do not tell me the bible is proof of anything. The bible simply states things, yet it provides no proof.
Do not argue with me, it’s a fact that there’s no evidence of a god. No argument will change that.
The best part about facts are that wether or not you believe them or even fight them, they’ll always remain right there.
@@ooduckoo so abiogenesis, etc. can all be dismissed.
No it is when the weight of evidence starts to push more in one direction. Naturalism as proposed in the 20th century can be dismissed. Few people believe in 20th century determinism of consciousness and believe now in some form of panpsychism based on quantum interactions. This though weakens the case for abiogenesis as it stands as does advances in the Theory of Evolution weaken abiogenesis as based on chemical evolution, etc.
We are faced with the possibility of quantum physics being the enabler of life due to its inherent information whatever and however that is or some other aspect of intelligence. This is why a good number of particle physicists subscribe to simulation theory.
Then there are other aspects of medical science that show again something at work far beyond the boundaries of the naturalist view of biology.
@@iain5615 Your point being?
Even though I disagree with some of the things you've said, I still admire that you haven't disabled the comment section like others who share your stance. I think it's important to be able to have open discussions on videos like this without censorship. Have a nice day :D
Agreed.
William lane craig always disables comment section.
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Because... he would be torn apart for his fallacious reasoning.
9:10 No, that's not my response.
My response is to say "Ok, fine, let's try it, although I feel like you're pulling my leg here."
Then when we try to open the door by patting our heads three times and reciting the phrase "peanut butter sandwiches", the door doesn't open, you tell me "Oh, but you have to keep trying until it opens"
Now, at this point, you might lose some listeners, but not me. I believe you.
After years of patting my head and reciting the phrase, the door is still not opened, I start to question whether or not this is actually the way to get it to open.
Also, add to that the fact that there are hundreds of people claiming they have opened the door, but their methods vary wildly. One guy claims you have to hop on one foot while reciting "hocus pocus". Another guy says you have to rub your belly while reciting "abra cadabra".
And none of them, it seems, can get the door to open to you.
So now you are indistinguishable from all these people that claim to be able to open the door.
well said man this guy doesn't even consider people like my self who at one point did try what people suggested I do and asked god to show me some sign or give me guidance but nothing ever happened.
Bro I’ve been there. I have been so frustrated I searched for 5 years and never got anything. I feel you, I understand, I have been at churches on my knees begging, and felt nothing. I feel you. Please believe me when I say I felt every word here.
But I did find God. And it’s different for everyone, how I found God will be so different to how someone else finds God, there’s no formula. For me, I really had to put my pride away and stop acting like I deserved a sign. And I really said God if you’re real I need to know because I can’t live without you, please give me something. Then that week I felt the overwhelming presence of God and it’s true it’s like trying to describe red to someone who’s colourblind
Bro I am so sorry for the pain you have been through, I really really hope you don’t give up man, you will find God. And you will be so glad you continued. I am so sorry I really feel the pain
@@lucasprzybyla7084 I feel you man, I really do, I was there. I know exactly the feeling. Please just seek God, I know it seems a lot. But if it is true, it is the most important information on planet earth.
@@Ben-wh4ci I will keep seeking God, don't worry. But I would like to know how you got to know him. You said you suddenly felt the overwhelming presence of God.
That's it? You base your belief in God on a feeling?
See, a completely neutral third-party observer could come away thinking you managed to convince yourself to believe for bad reasons.
Because even your search for God was emotionally loaded. You said if God's real then you need to know, because you can't live without Him.
This isn't going where the evidence leads. You are looking to arrive at a specific conclusion at the outset.
You just had a need to believe.
@@lucasprzybyla7084 you try to downplay it now, it’s not a feeling like oh I feel happy. If a strong wind of gust came on you right now, you would say “I felt the wind”, so you can attempt to downplay me when I say “I felt the presence o God”, it’s not an emotion. But I can try to describe it as much as I want but it won’t really matter.
I don’t just base my beliefs of 1 time, after that I kept getting sign after sign after sign, had a baby nephew, was born legit dead, and by a miracle of God is alive today. But then you say “that’s not true because there are other times where there was no miracle”, to that I don’t have a perfect explanation no, I don’t know why God chose to save him and not others. But I believe that’s a ridiculous argument to say it didn’t happen because other times it hasn’t, I’m not saying you are making that argument but other people have.
But even after all this, you could have all the historical proof you needed man but it still means nothing, believing is simply in the heart and not in the seeing. So yeah I could say, I’ve seen miracle healings and literal demons coming out of a person. But the me that didn’t believe would’ve probably found a way to discredit it as you are about to discredit it.
You need to find God in your heart, before you will find him in the natural. As cringe and lame as that sounds. It’s just true man, you don’t have to believe me, I really hope you do though, I really hope you never give up. Every response you make reminds me so much of myself
TLDR “There is no proof but I think he’s real because of an anecdote and if you don’t it’s because you’re too proud “
Soo dumb.
Hello.
@@GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang goodbye
The God Christ Jesus always been around.
The GOD Christ Jesus MADE the bigbang. And God made evolution.
Christ Jesus God in the Flesh.
Christ Jesus the Son of God.
With the Holy spirit.
God is 3 in one.
In Revelation God throws the
atheists agnostics sorcerers into HELL.
And the ugly immortal Demons TORTURE
atheists
agnostics sorcerers in HELL forever.
Because the atheists agnostics
sorcerers Rejected and did not accept God.
And the mormons into Hell for believing in many gods.
And hidus, buddhists into HELL for believing in many gods.
And the catholics into Hell for loving mary.
And the witnesses religion into HELL for believing in charles rusel.
And the muslims into HELL for loving the rapist muhhamud.
And the Huge immortal Demons Torture the atheists
agnostics sorcerers in Hell forever.
Matthew 23.7 Love the Lord your God with all your heart, body and with all your soul and with all your mind.
Matthew 22.8 That is the first and greatest commandment from the God Christ Jesus.
If y'all reject the God Christ Jesus.
Then the God Christ Jesus rejects you.
Matthew 25.41 Then God will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
The Bible says in Matthew.
That in Hell there will be wailing weeping and gnashing of the teeth.
Because Hell is so painful.
Revelation 14.11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night. They burn in Hell forever and ever.
And the bible haters burn in Hell forever.
And then the Huge immortal Demons Torture the atheists
agnostics sorcerers in HELL forever.
It's more logical to believe in god than it is to believe in the big bang which I bet you do. Explosions cause destruction, they dont create anything.
The God Christ Jesus always been around.
The GOD Christ Jesus MADE the bigbang. And God made evolution.
In Revelation God throws the
atheists agnostics sorcerers into HELL.
And the ugly immortal Demons TORTURE
atheists
agnostics sorcerers in HELL forever.
Because the atheists agnostics
sorcerers Rejected and did not accept God.
And the mormons into Hell for believing in many gods.
And hidus, buddhists into HELL for believing in many gods.
And the catholics into Hell for loving mary.
And the witnesses religion into HELL for believing in charles rusel.
And the muslims into HELL for loving the rapist muhhamud.
And the Huge immortal Demons Torture the atheists
agnostics sorcerers in Hell forever.
Matthew 23.7 Love the Lord your God with all your heart, body and with all your soul and with all your mind.
Matthew 22.8 That is the first and greatest commandment from the God Christ Jesus.
If y'all reject the God Christ Jesus.
Then the God Christ Jesus rejects you.
Matthew 25.41 Then God will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
The Bible says in Matthew.
That in Hell there will be wailing weeping and gnashing of the teeth.
Because Hell is so painful.
Revelation 14.11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night. They burn in Hell forever and ever.
And the bible haters burn in Hell forever.
And then the Huge immortal Demons Torture the atheists
agnostics sorcerers in HELL forever.
Christopher Hitchens is the one who put forth that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. No it doesn't; it just requires good, sound evidence.
What is so neat about this is that you are an expert, and the only qualified expert, of you and your experience. So what would you say about the life experiment you are experiencing? Self interpretive or could there be more?
It was actually Carl Sagan and it was a general statement. Not just a statement about the existence of God. it is now an excepted principle in epistemology and science. Also, I have found no sound evidence for a God.
we are confusing the word "God" with the word "φύσις", change every instance of the word "God" in any written text with the word "φύσις" and it still makes sense, indeed it makes more sense. The nearest translation of the word φύσις in English is "Nature"
I like that.
That was a mess. @Brian, don't give up your day job, your argument was long-winded and full of logical fallacies.
@@skerion7956 0:10 The two positions are not at all comparable. The request for extraordinary evidence is exactly what everyone should and would ask for in similar circumstances. Any Christian would only believe non-Christian god claims after seeing extraordinary evidence.
0:24 He equivocates two very different things. 1. Scientific claims don't usually contradict everything we know about the world. If they do, I'd argue that you would need similar amounts of evidence. That usually means that it take decades for fundamentallly new theories to replace their predecessors. 2. Science is organized in layers. You wouldn't need nearly as much evidence for a inconsequential hypothesis about a fringe topic - but could you even imagine he mountain ranges of evidence you'd need for refuting a fundamental theory like the Theory of Relativity?
2:23 You can find similar street polls with all kinds of topics. Leno did them pretty regularly as a comedy piece. It just shows that those particular people can easily be grabbed by their cognitive dissonances to say anything you want. What would those people say if the policies were a) clearly explained and b) not connected to a candidate? In the end it's just a poisoning of the well. "You don't accept my logical and rational argument, so you are emotional".
4:00 "...simply because you liked it" - what's irrational about that? It's a false distinction, emotional motivations ("I like white cars.") can be good reasons to pick a particular car. The case gets even worse when he talks about picking a breakfast.
5:28 The slippery slope of breakfast. I can very well make a emotional decision about a breakfast without automatically ending up malnourished. Not only that: There is no basis for that culinary multiplication. I can very well make emotional decisions the entire year, and end up very well nourished, because I have different cravings each day.
5:42 In a loving relationship I have plenty of evidence that my SO loves me. This is not the first time a theist used this arguments, and I'm confused every time. Christian couples talk to each other, don't they? Then would they even think that there is no evidence?
6:17 He assumes that the God question is already somehow a big part of an atheist's life, when by definition it is not. To pick up the last example: The statement "I love you." has consequences, regardless of whether someone is actually in love. Even if you do it only subconsciously, you have to look out for evidence. That's different with the God hypothesis: Atheists assume it's false, so there is nothing more to consider.
That gets us about halfway through the video and frankly I don't feel like doing the other half.
@@korbendallas5318 beautiful explanation 💯
If you want to see Brian shine in logical fallacy glory, watch his video on Godel's "proof" of God's existence. It was like watching a four year old try to lie - they're so bad at it that you actually feel sorry for them, but they have no idea.
@Jeremi Wagner You can't even give us a coherent sentence, or a completely written word.
@Jeremi Wagner Will you have "mastered" the use of fundamental grammar and punctuation in seven years?
Science gives more than words.
I am truly happy for you and your relationship with your god. From a philosophical perspective I think your argument falls short. It is mostly a straw man. No one is asking for perfect evidence of god. If you had ANY hint of evidence most would be very interested to pursue it farther. You can’t compare this to buying a car. What is at stake is FAR greater. Think about all the death that surrounds a belief in god. The evidence needs to meet the impact.
We want a purely rational explanation for believing that a divine architect is in play as opposed to being honest, and saying, “I don’t know.”
You are correct.
To say that “god exists” is a pretty major, and significant, and specific claim that I’d require irrefutable evidence to believe. Yes. Otherwise, my inclination is that I don’t know.
That’s all atheists are saying.
You look like the singer of a Power Metal band. And that's a compliment
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I loved how you clarified exactly what pride is: thinking about yourself too much. That was the best and most easy to understand definition I have heard. Because thinking very highly of yourself is easy to see as pride. But the very common problem of being really neurotic and down on yourself is harder to diagnose as pride. I have heard it called "Pride from the bottom looking up". But this definition is more clear. That really helped me. Thank you!
Too bad his definition is wrong.
@@jimpeschke3435 how is his definition of pride wrong?
@@richardbonnette490 Because it doesn't match any of the commonly accepted definitions of the word. That's typically what makes someone's homespun definition of a word wrong. I am not Merriam-Webster - look it up. Brian doesn't get to redefine words to grease the wheels of his fallacious arguments.
@@jimpeschke3435 could we define his definition of pride as "irrational pride" or "unnatural pride"? Because there are people who do act proud and the definition fits them very well, it just doesn't have to extend to everybody.
@@richardbonnette490 You and I do not get to redefine words at will. Neither does Brian. If such wordsmithing is necessary to make an argument sound coherent, it probably isn't.
Dont you find it even a little ironic that throughout this video you keep saying that asking for proof of this god is just avoiding the truth, and yet you title the video "undeniable proof of gods existence" ?
I came here a non believer in god. I left a non believer.
What is the name of the background music? I would like to get a copy of it.
Introit for confirmation
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Our feelings are very fickle and are usually a terrible determining factor when discerning.
Luckily, science is based on repeated tests and empirical data, not our personal feelings
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So basically "be humble about not understanding something" and then let someone else to convince you of something else, and then NOT question it, just because it's supposed to make you feel good..... clown
Are you an atheist?
Pretty much sums it up
@@ouagagamer3798 are you an atheist?
@@jeremyrobinson7745 yes I am
@@ouagagamer3798 Why
Did you know 'the way' in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics is a circle with a vertical line and the words son is an image of a circle with lines that can be arranged into this image?
(1) I can't speak for other atheists but I am not looking for undeniable proof, just some reasonably compelling evidence, or a coherent logical argument that doesn't abuse logical processes would be a start. The most reasonable argument I have come across is that God *could* conceivably exist, but then so *could* Zeus, Cthulu and the Mighty Universe-building Legion of Sentient Carrots.
(2) I agree that we make decisions on a combination of rational and emotional factors. However, the difference between faith-based religion and day-to-day decision-making is that if I want to make a wholly rational decision (or as close as possible to one), the data is out there to enable me to do so. The same cannot be said of rationally choosing to believe in a sky fairy. On what evidence do you choose between all the known gods of history? My personal view is that people choose to believe in an all-powerful father figure and the promised afterlife because (a) it provides emotional comfort they have not been able to obtain through other means and / or (b) they simply don't have the learning to understand the scale and processes which science has laid out as the more rational explanations for the way things are (i.e. "I don't understand x, therefore God" which is a nice simple solution that beggars a truck load of additional questions that theists choose to swat away).
(3) Being unable to recite the refutations for the cosmological or ontological arguments, etc, etc, does not invalidate the atheist's position during a debate. We have mobile phones, there are ample sources the atheist can go to to find the exact refutation. Many of the so-called proofs for God's existence are based on bad logic and / or casually inserting assertions into logical statements in the hope no-one will spot them. I have not seen any counter-refutations for those refutations apart from those who claim God sits outside the realm of logical discourse. The more questions are asked, the more theists retreat into the absurd and abstract.
(4) The fact that we make emotional decisions such as the the Trump / Clinton choice presented in the video simply furthers the argument for informed decision-making based on evidence and the importance of teaching critical-thinking in school. If we voted more based on actual policies in combination with a judgment on a politician's behaviour rather than based on historical biases and memes, we might elect better people to govern us.
(5) Showing humility is all well and good, but why is it God that would sit on the other side of the door as opposed to any other god? Why not Allah? Why do you think God is waiting for you to humble yourself while Mother Nature or the Egyptian pantheon are looking at their water clocks in despair, thinking "One day the humans will open their minds to us rather than calling out to those that don't exist". How do you know it is God and not a deceiver, even a benign deceiver who answers? You feel it? You *know* it? The deceiver is also a god so could make you feel the assurance of pure love, they could make you *know* it. Without evidence and based on just feelings alone, the argument presented is simply arguing in favour of a dream or a delusion.
Atheism is even dumber than thinking abortion isn't murder.
@@gabenorman747 Oh boy...
Not sure if it’s enough evidence but how about near death experiences? Specifically where the brain and heart both completely shut down and the person is dead by all means. Yet when they’re resuscitated.. they’re able to clearly and vividly explain what went on around the hospital, where their spirit went and encountering extreme compassion or kindness. Or reuniting with loved ones, wouldn’t that kind of be important evidence? Technically there should be no consciousness when the brains stops, especially if for long enough.
"I think it's ok to make any decision for any reason at all and therefore God real."
The problem bub, isn't undeniable proof. It's literally any viable proof at all. And that clickbait... that was awfully dishonest, but since I'm not passive aggressive with my insults, I wanted to make it clear, that was a jab at you being a bad Christian.
Brian's talk of "undeniable proof" is a classic straw-man argument - another tool in his sophistry toolbox. Few if any atheists demand "undeniable proof", or even any proof. Most demand evidence and, having found none, conclude that God probably doesn't exist.
I do find it amusing that believers who, when confronted with their own folly, so often "punt" to "its a matter of faith" quickly return to "proof" when the dust settles.
God’s blessing, mercy, and peace be upon you, my beloved reader 😊. I am encouraging you to worship who created us to be in a wonderful place in the afterlife. I have the evidence that our creator gave us to persuade us of his existence ❤️. Let me show you some shards of evidence. Firstly, research certain that there is innate feeling in the humans encouraging him to worship his god. secondly, doomsday achieves justice. thirdly, the atoms, creatures, universe, earth with their perfection and ecosystem make us sure that our god exists as chemistry doesn’t care about this stuff. Fourthly, the scientific, Linguistic, parapsychological, and historical miracles in the Holy Quran make us certain that this book is from a mighty powerful God. fifth, No one discloses our creation but our God in the Quran. lastly, there isn’t anyone who could do the challenge of creating one chapter like the Quran that has 114 chapters because of its miracles in every aspect. Now, you must: ask your creator for guidance by raising your hand to the sky and asking him with the real intent of finding the truth. Research for these miracles by reading the Holy Quran. watch the religious comparisons and atheists enter Islam after answering their questions and showing them the evidence made by doctor Zakir naik. Ask Muslims to help you in your research. Finally, certain that our creator is more gracious and merciful than you can ever think 🥺
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"I have the evidence that our creator gave us to persuade us of his existence"
1) "there is innate feeling in the humans encouraging him to worship his god"
A feeling isn't evidence of anything except that humans have feelings. We desire to do a lot of things and they seem to correlate with evolutionary advantages.
2) "doomsday achieves justice"
That isn't even an observation, it's just a statement. It means as much as if I said "Shrek is life" It's just nonsense.
3) "the atoms, creatures, universe, earth with their perfection and ecosystem make us sure that our god exists as chemistry doesn’t care about this stuff"
Chemistry doesn't care about stuff? So that means God exists? I genuinely don't understand what your even trying to say. Nature is too perfect, I think and again, that isn't evidence, it's just a statement. I could say, idk, "the concept of spaghetti is too perfect, it had to come from the flying spaghetti monster."
4) "the scientific, Linguistic, parapsychological, and historical miracles in the Holy Quran make us certain that this book is from a mighty powerful God"
Lol, what? Do you have a scale to measure that with too? Are there books out there written by less powerful Gods? I think you're basically saying it was written by real people in a real time period where things happened. I already know the book is real dude, I don't believe what's written in it... That they reference real events isn't evidence its true, not even close. It's incredibly common, not only in story telling in general, but in religions specifically. Verifiable historic events are recorded the writings of every major religion. According to your logic, ALL of them are true.
5) "No one discloses our creation but our God in the Quran."
Aaaaaaand again... that isn't evidence... that's just a statement. Let me try. "Only wakanda knuckles knows dah weh." See what I mean, that doesn't mean anything.
6) "lastly, there isn’t anyone who could do the challenge of creating one chapter like the Quran"
So your evidence is that something that was clearly written... couldn't be written? You do get that's a complete contradiction. No one can write it, you know, except the guy or even guys that wrote. It being possible to write it is self evident just by it having been written yo. All you're doing is asserting that it had to be done by a miracle. Homie it isn't even that impressive. Go read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King and then come back and tell me how one person could write that much crap.
"Now, you must: ask your creator for guidance by raising your hand to the sky and asking him with the real intent of finding the truth."
But that's the problem bro, I don't have a creator, I don't believe in that stuff. For any of this trash logic to make sense, you have to believe FIRST and then you make up the rest to justify it. I don't believe yo, how can I ask, genuinely ask for guidance from something I don't believe in... Your "God" left you some pretty terrible evidence g.
@@mooseitself who sent down the holy Quran talked about these topics in the field of embryology:
1- Who determines the gender of the fetus is the sperm as he almighty said: “And made of him two mates, the male and the female.”
2- He created the hearing before the vision in more than one verse. he almighty said: “…He made for you hearing and vision and intellect that perhaps you would be grateful.”. research proved that recently.
3- He almighty said: “O people! If you are in doubt about the resurrection, [consider that] We indeed created you from dust, then from a drop of [seminal] fluid, then from a clinging mass,1 then from a fleshy tissue,2 partly formed and partly unformed, so that We may manifest [Our power] to you. We establish in the wombs whatever We wish for a specified term”.
Firstly, Allah ( the creator) illustrated that he created us from clay. Research proves that the human is created from the same chemicals that present in the clay. In other words, clay has the chemicals that are presented in humans.
Secondly, the almighty explained the stages as he said, “from a drop of fluid, then from a clinging mass”. He Almighty takes about the implantation that happens in the womb. Then he explains that this clinging mass becomes a fleshy tissue. Photos will be the best way to understand and check.
thirdly, He explains that this fleshy tissue is partly form and partly unformed. For example, when the cartilage bones are differentiated, the embryonic connective tissue or mesenchyme around them is undifferentiated. It later differentiates into the muscles and ligaments attached to the bones.
lastly, He Almighty said: “We establish in the wombs whatever We wish for a specified term.”
It is well known that many embryos abort during the first month of development and that only about 30% of zygotes that form, develop into fetuses that survive until birth.
4- He almighty said:”…Then We created the fleshy tissue as bones. Then We clothed the bones with flesh. Then We produced him as [yet] another creature. So blessed is Allah, the best of creators! "
He explains the stages of the creation after the fleshy tissue. Also, he explains that bones are created from the fleshy tissue, then he clothed the bones with flesh. search to be sure.
5- Allah said: "He makes you in the wombs of your mothers in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness.". The three veils of darkness"
Now, these could be either 1-Darkness of the abdomen, 2- Womb/ or Uterus, 3- Amniotic sac/ Placenta/ or Amnio-chorionic membrane
6- Allah said: "...Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... ”
www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-1-a.htm
is this not sufficient evidence?
ready for any question.
keep going
@@hossamtarek2272 Dog, you obviously don't even know what evidence is... Your literally just saying "God did it" over and over and that's it. That is entire substance of your "evidence."
You even try to follow my format but only address a single issue from your previous bs shpeal. For some reason you think only God could tell us how babies are made even though animal husbandry had been around for thousands of years by then. Maybe if they had figured out cell division you'd have some argument here, but they didn't, this is the result of observation.
"is this not sufficient evidence? ready for any question."
It isn't even evidence. Here let me help you.
Evidence: "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid."
Man this guy talks n talks and talks... likes the sound of his own voice... like you know something? Buddy you think you got your head around this issue but you don't. If you don't want criticism maybe don't create click bait... or just don't use a public platform.. keep your opinion private.
Thank you
A few problems. The title is slightly dishonest clickbait, but I'm not overly irritated by that - it is TH-cam, everyone misleads and equivocates.
There are 3 problems in the video I think.
1. I would avoid projecting motivations and intellectual roadblocks onto others, it does nobody any good and cartoons your credibility. If there's a valid and sound argument for god, and i reject it, then I'm being irritational. I haven't seen one, and not aware of anybody who has.
2. Get rid of the phrase 'undeniable proof' because that is literally meaningless and is (accidental or perhaps deliberate) misdirection. The existence of a specific God is an epistemic proposition, and therefore any argument to that end will be a posteriori. Therefore, 'proof' doesn't apply at all, as proofs only apply to deductive arguments that are a priori. You're just asking the wrong question, and one that is impossible to answer. What you ought to be looking for is evidence sufficient to warrant belief - and that would be in an inductive/abductive argument. Of course, that relies on the proposition being falsifiable...so you'd have to define God first in away that is falsifiable. If you can't, then how can you believe it?
3. Your justification for believing (after wading through a lot of preamble) appears to be as follows (please elaborate if I'm mistaken, or the specifics were unspoken):
'I asked God to show me a sign that he exists, and he did'.
Did you ask for specifics, and did those specifics occur within set parameters or controls? If not, then that's absolutely worthless. You might as well have said 'Dear God, I'd like to believe in you so much that I'm talking to you under the presupposition that you exist, can hear me, and can respond with a world action. Please allow me to subjectively interpret a random event at any point in the future, as my subjective interpretation of a specific God, talking to me'. 'IF' the only thing you did is only what you said, then what you did is the above.
What did you ask God to do, and what justification do you have for believing God did it?
I'd genuinely like to know, and this addressed at specifically at Brian, so I would appreciate if this comment wasn't swarmed by other people and derailed - as is the normal.
I'd appreciate any response and apologise if I was unkind or overly confrontational in my reply - it can be difficult to avoid being sarcastic when you have a significant disagreement, and I'm forceful in making a point, but smugness from either interlocutor doesn't encourage a good exchange. All the best.
What I find prideful is asserting you have esoteric knowledge about the nature of existence and its origins because you have a book you claim reveals absolute truth. I admit I know nothing and seek knowledge, not truth. And you think I'm prideful for questioning the claims every theist makes? Not just Christians, but Muslims, Hindis, Jains, and all the rest.
Agreed. I don't think he grasps the difference between superficial observation vs empirical evidence, or speculation & interpretation vs observation & investigation.
7:29 You're right. We should be humble.
Maybe that Nigerian prince who sent me an email earlier really does want to deposit one of my rich deceased family member's bank balance of 4.3 million dollars so we can split it 50/50.
Do you have a brother named John but goes by Jack
1 Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time.
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@@godchristmadethebigbangand2834 I don't know if you're replying to me, but hello.
"None of your decisions are purely rational, therefore, god!"
lol
Or... "None of your decisions are purely rational, therefore don't pretend that's your reason for refusing to explore God with integrity." Very different, but I guess strawman responses are the norm here.
Brian Holdsworth Great response 💪
😂Perfect example of how people only hear what they want to hear. Clown🤡
Yo people if there are uNdEnIaBlE PROOFS for god give me one, one is enaugh.
Some of you missed the point. You aren't going to find undeniable proof of God, and if that turns you away from God, then seriously start taking a look at other things you believe in with the same skepticism.
so he concluded that his god is real, which one?? the one that looks like him
You can't see the holy bible in the back?
All of them are real. But he's a Christian and Christians are monotheists. So he can only acknowledge one. It's just part of xtian dogma. The earliest Abrahamic religion was henotheist in it's early days. That religion is early Judaism. They believed other gods existed but would only worship one.
I am crying right now. I feel like everything you just said is everything I have been preaching for my entire life! Amen!
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Odd you did not get equally emotional for the realization both of you presented no rationale other than blind faith for a god.
That should make you cry. It makes your life's work baseless.
You remind me of that guitar guy Paul Davis, but he doesn't have that level of beard fabulousness
Do you think he's subconsciously attempting look like the popular conception of what Jesus looks like?
This guy compared buying a car to the cause of the universe bruh
I need to watch it again, but, there's an episode from 'Life is Worth Living' by Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen called 'How to Compare World Religions'. I find it incredibly insightful in regards of this subject matter. I advice checking it out.
Hmm it sounds like he’s ultimately arguing for being irrational because we show irrationality in some aspects of our lives? That is not a persuasive argument at all.
I got a desease and some people told me to pray instead of going to the doctor because praying works for them. In your logic, if I refuse to pray Im full of pride??? Because I don't want to be healed??? lmfao
Go to the doctor man! Just make sure that you pray that the doctors there can help you I’m sure god will hear your prayer and help you through one of the doctors remember god comes in MANY shapes and forms it would be ignorant to not go because if you don’t go god can’t get through to you with the proper treatment
It sounds like you are taking a christian mind set, or your own, and applying it to everyone else, specifically atheists.
The reason I'm an atheist is because I disregard my emotional reasoning.
So Ivan, what made you come & watch & even take the time to post here...just curious, not a trick question :)
@And Jesus said: I'm really interested in religion in general, both theology and epistemology. I usually only see the atheist side so I've been keeping my eyes out for media from the other side of the discussion aswell :)
@@ivanhagstrom5601 Very cool! I have to say I love your mindset, it seems that you're making an honest, educated pursuit of the truth.Thanks for you response my friend!
@@andjesussaid2343 Always! Thanks for being so friendly :)
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" Pride is a spiritual cancer; it eats up the very possibility of love, or contentment or even common sense." C.S. Lewis
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Now it just needs to be proven.
Yeah, let's not be proud but accept that people fall into demonic possession just by reading Harry Potter. Is that humbleness?
@@konyvnyelv. You seriously believe people "full under demonic possession just by reading Harry Potter."? Or are you being sarcastic?
@@konyvnyelv. How is that equal to humbleness? That's freaking retarded.
I think you forgot to put any proof into your video, not to say undeniable
"You're too proud" isn't a proof, it's an opinion based solely on your felings
Your denial of God is based solely on your feelings. Crazy how the Bible addresses your human heart so precisely.
@@SuperrBoyful Where exactly in my comment am I denying God?
i don`t see how any of what he said amounts to proof ?? am i missing something?
Very disappointed with the lack of "Undeniable Proof of God's Existence"
Agreed
That is the point, surely?
@@physiocrat7143 he titled the video that didn't he?
@@physiocrat7143 I've talked with this guy before. He isn't interested in getting the point
@@ironymatt Brian's point was to attract your attention. Which he obviously did. Who has not got the point?
Brian!! How old was that car commercial? LOL Great video again, man!! Much appreciated and still lovin your beard!!
If I had to guess Mid to late 1990's to early 2000's
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LOL....Someone chastising others about having "pride", yet doing so while believing their own religious dogma is the "one and only" truth. Delusion is a powerful drug.
Don't be too hard on Brian. I don't think he's a bad person. His logic just sucks. My concern is that lazy thinkers eat this nonsense up.
@@jimpeschke3435 :) Most people have periods in life where they're a bit misguided and arrogant. He'll grow out of it.
@@tomjohnson3141 Interesting perspective. We both see Brian as having a self-image far above his abilities. You seem to suggest a dose of humility, while I aimed more towards improving skill. Both are needed here.
He may well grow into a more balanced mindset, but as I said before, what troubles me is the large number of unthinking types that he seems to be leading down into the pit of confirmation bias and pathological reasoning.
If God created everything...wouldn’t He be the creator of science too?
Colossians 1:16 ESV
For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him.
Probably not. God was created in prehistoric times as well to convey to us how the world works. Science now is replacing religion as religion's knowledge is constant while science is expanding.
How can you validate God's existence or ties to science?