Very interesting. Start of B section, the G flat major, you have it as lydian. I've always played it as Ionian since the b note makes a smooth transition to the next chord B7. I'll have to try lydian from now on.
Once you unlock the "Jobim Chord Progression Lexicon", learning his tunes is relatively easy because about 80%-90% of his songs use the same pattern. Many of his verses have a progression whose measures go like this: minor flat 5th, augmented, minor flat 5th, augmented, minor flat 5th, augmented, major 7th chord progression.
Mapping Tonal Harmony is very genius software for music analsysis especially jazz musics... Maybe in the future it can be developed to other OS like Windows? 😊
justbought the app and laded the songbook. Great instruction! Can someone tell me the settings i shoulpd put on the app to have the same strumming that is in this video? Thanks
Choose Bossa as the groove. Choose nylon guitar as the sound, and choose Duke or one of the guitar players as the AI player. Optional: toggle off the BASS using chromatic approaches
I'm probably being dense, but two questions: 1. In measure 6, what is the difference between a Gb7b5 and a Gb7#11? Aren't those identical? Would the scale for the former be Gb, Ab, Bb, Cb, C, Eb, E? 2. In measure 3, why does making a G7 (which would otherwise be the V7/V) into a G7#11 suddenly make it a II7 chord? Isn't it still a V7/V with some accidental or extension (i.e. the #11). Why is its function now a II7 chord?
Great questions. In a Gb7b5 the C is a chord-tone and the Db is not available (the D could be available though). In a Gb7#11 the Db is the chord-tone and the C is tension #11. This is a subtle difference but it is kind of important for voicing building and improvisation. Measure 3, when you listen to Jobim performances (and many others) you'll hear that #11 (or the b5 for that matter) being use every time. The real book shows G7 but it is not the actual chord you hear in recordings. As we mentioned in the video the II7 is an altered version of the V/V, and it is also a subtle difference, but usually the V/V could be easily interpolate by the ii/V and it is most of the time a mixolydian chord, while the II7 works great moving directly from the I chord, in some strange way it is an alteration of the I chord, like a Lydian Augmented version of the I. Try interpolating the ii/V (Dm) before the G7 in The Girl From Ipanema and you'll see it is not as effective. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the great question.
In reality, the 5th is often omitted in jazz harmony anyway. There isn't much of a reason to retain the 5th if it calls for the #11 unless the harmonic colour is wanted or specified. So in terms of sound or interpretation, Gb7b5 and Gb7#11 are the same or almost the same, perhaps just an octave lower or higher if you want to be precise with notation. Though there would be the 5th if you improvise over those chords with lydian b7 mode on the root degree.
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what an ingenious explanation of the genius work.
Excellant. Always loved Jobim's sound.
Very interesting. Start of B section, the G flat major, you have it as lydian. I've always played it as Ionian since the b note makes a smooth transition to the next chord B7. I'll have to try lydian from now on.
You nailed it! Great analysis and presentation!
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great job, prof, thanks for sharing
Another great lesson!
Great lesson thanks !
ud es el mejor maestro de jazz
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Once you unlock the "Jobim Chord Progression Lexicon", learning his tunes is relatively easy because about 80%-90% of his songs use the same pattern. Many of his verses have a progression whose measures go like this: minor flat 5th, augmented, minor flat 5th, augmented, minor flat 5th, augmented, major 7th chord progression.
Jobin learnt off the boppers
Brillant
Jobim , é uma estrela cadente , nao é deste mundo...
Mapping Tonal Harmony is very genius software for music analsysis especially jazz musics... Maybe in the future it can be developed to other OS like Windows? 😊
justbought the app and laded the songbook. Great instruction! Can someone tell me the settings i shoulpd put on the app to have the same strumming that is in this video? Thanks
Choose Bossa as the groove. Choose nylon guitar as the sound, and choose Duke or one of the guitar players as the AI player. Optional: toggle off the BASS using chromatic approaches
I'm probably being dense, but two questions:
1. In measure 6, what is the difference between a Gb7b5 and a Gb7#11? Aren't those identical? Would the scale for the former be Gb, Ab, Bb, Cb, C, Eb, E?
2. In measure 3, why does making a G7 (which would otherwise be the V7/V) into a G7#11 suddenly make it a II7 chord? Isn't it still a V7/V with some accidental or extension (i.e. the #11). Why is its function now a II7 chord?
Great questions. In a Gb7b5 the C is a chord-tone and the Db is not available (the D could be available though). In a Gb7#11 the Db is the chord-tone and the C is tension #11. This is a subtle difference but it is kind of important for voicing building and improvisation. Measure 3, when you listen to Jobim performances (and many others) you'll hear that #11 (or the b5 for that matter) being use every time. The real book shows G7 but it is not the actual chord you hear in recordings. As we mentioned in the video the II7 is an altered version of the V/V, and it is also a subtle difference, but usually the V/V could be easily interpolate by the ii/V and it is most of the time a mixolydian chord, while the II7 works great moving directly from the I chord, in some strange way it is an alteration of the I chord, like a Lydian Augmented version of the I. Try interpolating the ii/V (Dm) before the G7 in The Girl From Ipanema and you'll see it is not as effective. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the great question.
In reality, the 5th is often omitted in jazz harmony anyway. There isn't much of a reason to retain the 5th if it calls for the #11 unless the harmonic colour is wanted or specified. So in terms of sound or interpretation, Gb7b5 and Gb7#11 are the same or almost the same, perhaps just an octave lower or higher if you want to be precise with notation. Though there would be the 5th if you improvise over those chords with lydian b7 mode on the root degree.
I agree. I think the big difference is the availability of the #5 (or b13) - D in Gb7 - on a 7b5, not really present on a 7#11.
No Windows version?!
Not for now
What?